CarKitMode mode activator (CU-S400 Emulator) - HD2 General

Hi,
I've installed the update for Navipanel hoping it would work now, even though I don't have the CU-S400. I start the Navipanel.exe from the exe in the Windows folder, and it starts up as expected. When I try to make a call the dialer always switches to portrait even though Navipanel is in landscape.
Could this be a dialer problem (I have the latest Energy ROM) or is it because I started navipanel by hand.
Anyone knows how to solve this? Is there a registry key that forces the dialer to stay in landscape mode? Or is there something I can do with the microusb power connector (short pins?) to force the landscape mode?
It would be great if anyone is able to give me some details on registry changes when the CU-S400 connects (can be detected using SKTracker) so I can maybe write a utility/tool force this mode without the actual carkit.
Any help is apreciated, I hate it when the device return to portrait while I'm driving.
Thanks in advance.
Edit: Nothing was available so I cooked up something myself. See post 31 for a cab file.

le_cactus said:
Hi,
I've installed the update for Navipanel hoping it would work now, even though I don't have the CU-S400. I start the Navipanel.exe from the exe in the Windows folder, and it starts up as expected. When I try to make a call the dialer always switches to portrait even though Navipanel is in landscape.
Could this be a dialer problem (I have the latest Energy ROM) or is it because I started navipanel by hand.
Anyone knows how to solve this? Is there a registry key that forces the dialer to stay in landscape mode? Or is there something I can do with the microusb power connector (short pins?) to force the landscape mode?
It would be great if anyone is able to give me some details on registry changes when the CU-S400 connects (can be detected using SKTracker) so I can maybe write a utility/tool force this mode without the actual carkit.
Any help is apreciated, I hate it when the device return to portrait while I'm driving.
Thanks in advance.
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Its more of a quick work-around rather than a total fix, but have you tried Gyrator2? Its a program that allows the screen to rotate in pretty much all programs.

Hi,
I did, but it doesnt work; the dialer goes to portrait mode, and only switches to landscape again if I hold my phone in portrait and then to landscape again.
Is there noboby who has got it working and is willing to check somethings?
TIA,
Cheers,
/Cacti

I have htc car holder CU-S400 and for me it stays in the landscape even in dialer mode.
I have tried to start navipanel without car holder but then in dialer mode it goes to portrait.
I belive it is related to micro usb on car holder.I hope this will help.

It does, thanks. I've send you a PM.
Cheers,
/Cacti

I'm in Jakarta - Indonesia.
My car kit CU S400 has arrived yesterday, in navi panel mode can we use another program beside co pilot for navigation, how to choose or change the default (co pilot).
I've ask to support center and it's been 36 hours and still no answer to my question.
hope someone can help me.
regards,
Raymond Widya

Pinout?
chavonbravo said:
Well, it seems the registry that enables/disables NaviPanel is in HKLM\System\CurrentControlSet\Keypad\"IsCarKitMode" with dword 0 or 1. The file that controls this registry settings going on or off is HTCApplication.dll. The 'Keypad' key doesn't exist, so you'll have to add it and add the IsCarKitMode dword value.
I can't get it to work with my a2dp stereo headphones to connect automatically, but I think this is because when doing the bluetooth handshake, some flags must not be set that show it to be a car kit possibly. Only other option would be bthutil.dll after that and see what it does.
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So, digging in some more I found this post. The IsCarKitMode registry key does exist on our HD2's, and changing it's value to 1 briefly brings up the Navipanel. But sometings ( I guess the HTC Application service) changes it rights back to 0, disableing the 'true' landscape mode. Disableing the service isn't an option I think; it handles much more then just the car kit mode. An looking at the DLL that handles the service (HTCApplication.dll) didn't give me much info; the IsCarKitMode strings didn't even exist in it.
So now I'm looking for the pinout of the CU-S400 micro USB connector. I know the three coper connections beside the SIM may have the answer, but I also found threads stating certain Mini2Micro USB adapters made the device think it's in car kit mode. Anyone with any input on how to hardwire this please speakup
TIA,
Cheers,
Cacti

Never mind, I got it working now
Thanks for all your help
I've got a working NaviPanel and landscape dialer even withou the CU-S400. It detects AC power, waits for my BT Carkit to connect and then starts NaviPanel. True landscape, even if the dialer is started and when a call comes in.
Now all I need to figure out why every navigation shortcut in NaviPanel adds the Show parameter to CoPilot, and how CoPilot knows need to Go Home, Show Recent places, Addresses of simply start.
Again, I need the help. this time from someone using CoPilot and who is willing to use SKTracker to find out what's going on. I almost have the perfect solution, I'm nearly there
TIA,
Cheers,
/Cacti

le_cactus said:
Thanks for all your help
I've got a working NaviPanel and landscape dialer even withou the CU-S400. It detects AC power, waits for my BT Carkit to connect and then starts NaviPanel. True landscape, even if the dialer is started and when a call comes in.
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Would you like to share your setup ?

Go on le_cactus,and I am glad to see that you found solution for your problem.
I am sorry for didn't send you requested screenshot,but I was on trip and I didn't have good internet connection.
I hope you will find solution how to integrate alternative navigation system with navipanel,and I hope one of them will be GarminXT.

You know I really hate when someone says "I found a solution" and does not care enough to share the solution with others, but yet had to ask here in the first place. As for the navipanel, if you connect pin 4 to ground it will start up navipanel and let you use the dialer in landscape without it rotating to portrait first. Hope this helps others finding their way here for a solution.

duplicate sorry!

iBlade67 said:
You know I really hate when someone says "I found a solution" and does not care enough to share the solution with others, but yet had to ask here in the first place. As for the navipanel, if you connect pin 4 to ground it will start up navipanel and let you use the dialer in landscape without it rotating to portrait first. Hope this helps others finding their way here for a solution.
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Yes that was Bl**dy annoying.
However here is the answer.
It is possible to modify any car power adapter to enable navipanel. You must indeed connect pin 4 to ground pin 5. However I have discovered it is not that simple, that did not work on my power adapter. The reason was this.
Most power adapters connect pins 2+3 (the USB data lines) together to identify that it is a charger capable of supplying higher power than a PC USB port. This enables "fast charge". with these pins connected the HD2 wont go into navipanel.
It is neccessary to remove the link between pins 2+3 and instead link 4+5.
This allows the HD2 to switch to navipanel mode and at the same time recognise there is a high power charger present!!
The pins look like this from the rear
* * *
* *
numbered
5 3 1
4 2
I hope this helps someone else looking for this solution. It would be great if you could buy a "proper" aftermarket car adapter for the HD2 that had this mod done!
Cheers all and enjoy!

bob_bournemouth said:
Yes that was Bl**dy annoying.
However here is the answer.
It is possible to modify any car power adapter to enable navipanel. You must indeed connect pin 4 to ground pin 5. However I have discovered it is not that simple, that did not work on my power adapter. The reason was this.
Most power adapters connect pins 2+3 (the USB data lines) together to identify that it is a charger capable of supplying higher power than a PC USB port. This enables "fast charge". with these pins connected the HD2 wont go into navipanel.
It is neccessary to remove the link between pins 2+3 and instead link 4+5.
This allows the HD2 to switch to navipanel mode and at the same time recognise there is a high power charger present!!
The pins look like this from the rear
* * *
* *
numbered
5 3 1
4 2
I hope this helps someone else looking for this solution. It would be great if you could buy a "proper" aftermarket car adapter for the HD2 that had this mod done!
Cheers all and enjoy!
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Hi Bob,
I was also annoyed ybout the missing possibility to start the car kit mode. The Navi Panel was not a problem to start with a shortcut but unfortunately the predefined connect to my Parrot hands free set via bluetooth wouldnt work. So I have to crack it on the hardware side
I was very happy about your posting and the provided solution. I plan to start a field trial with a micro USB cable, my side cutter and my soldering iron. Hopefully I can affirm your pin-bridges
But before I start, I have to be sure that I count the plug pins right. Is the numbering of attached picture right or should I have to count otherwise?
Thanks for your help.

Here I got the answer!
http://translate.google.at/translat....cz/forum/viewtopic.php?f=3&t=73&p=1037#p1037

original usb adaptor solved this issue
I am coming from tytn II and I have the original htc car charger, when I purchased the HD2 I found that the charger can't be used with it, then I went back to HTC store here in Saudi Arabia and asked for an adaptor (USB mini to USB micro), and it cost less than 3 USD and once I attached to the HD2 it went to the Navipanal.
I think the solution of the resistor was built in it or it is because of using the original HTC car charger (which was for the Tytn II).
Funny thing that I thought that this is natural with any Car charger till I saw this thread

CU-S400 Emulator
Hi,
I finaly got a working CU-S400 Car Holder emulator! When using my HD2 in landscape mode in my car I ran into the following problems:
The device changes to portrait mode everytime the dialer comes up
The device always goes to speakerphone on incoming calls, even though my Parrot carkit is connected. Outgoing call are routed through my Parrot carkit though. I always had to manualy disable speakerphone on every incomming call.
I have to switch on Bluetooth everytime I enter my car; having BT on all the time drains my battery to fast
Running NaviPanel (to solve part of the above problems) disables the StartMenu hardkey, and changes the Home hardkey to always change to NaviPanel instead of Sense.
The attached ZIP file contains the following files:
CarKitMode Detect Helper.exe - A modified file that is originaly used by the Via Michelin GSP software. It detects if AC Power is connected of disconnected, and the launches my HTC_car_kit_mode_auto.exe. It either launches with the AC_ON or AC_OFF parameter, depending on wheter AC is connected or disconnected.
CarKitMode Detect Helper.lnk - The shortcut that is placed in \Windows\StartUp to autostart the monitoring of te AC connection.
HTC_car_kit_mode_auto.exe - A Basic4PPC file I created. If started with the AC_ON parameter it changes the registry so my HD2 thinks it's connected to a CU-S400 Car Holder. It enables Blueooth and then waits for 2 minutes to see i the bluetooth device specified in NaviPanel settings is connected. If not, shuts itself down after disabling Bluetooth. If Bluetooth is connected sits, and waits for a call, and then disables speakerphone if it sees that speakerphone is enabled. That way the call is routed through the BT device.
When started with the AC_OFF parameter it changes the registry back, disables BT and shuts itself down.
VJSpeakerPhoneOFF.exe - The program that is called to disable speakerphone. It's part of the VJPhoneShortcuts suite that was created many years back by Vijay555. Big thanks to him, although I'm sure there are other programs that will do the same.
I've tested a lot, and can't find any battery or performance penalty for the always running helper application. And the HTC_car_kit_mode_auto only runs if AC power is connected, and then only for two minutes if the BT device isn't connected. Just unzip the attached CU-S400 Emulator.zip to the root of your device and soft reset. I tried to make a CAB file, but installing it always failes, haven't got a clue why. If anyone find a way to create this cab file, please let me know.
Best way to use this if BT is disabled by default. And it's not necessary to enable the auto launch of NaviPanel. I don't use it anymore. It disables the StartMenu hardkey, and since I don't use CoPilot it doesn't do much for me. By using these utilities I do have true landscape support for the dialer, and I works with any AC power connection, no need to modify the USB connector. I'm very happy, my in car experience is 100% better now.
Hope this helps anyone, if not I'm still happy, it works for me!
Cheers,
/Cacti

le_cactus said:
CarKitMode Detect Helper.exe - A modified file that is originaly used by the Via Michelin GSP software. It detects if AC Power is connected of disconnected, and the launches my HTC_car_kit_mode_auto.exe. It either launches with the AC_ON or AC_OFF parameter, depending on wheter AC is connected or disconnected.
CarKitMode Detect Helper.lnk - The shortcut that is placed in \Windows\StartUp to autostart the monitoring of te AC connection.
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Hi,
unfortunately this wont work on my ROM. I use original german ROM with all updates. If I copy your "Startup" shortcut to my "Autostart" folder I get an error message, that the application is not certified or some components are missing. I already dissabled the "uncertified" message with HD2Tweak and it works for other apps.
Best regards

extrapurifier said:
I get an error message, that the application is not certified or some components are missing.
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Hi,
At what point does the error message occur? At startup (while launching CarKitMode Detect Helper.exe) or when connecting or disconnecting power?
Cheers,
/Cacti

le_cactus said:
Hi,
At what point does the error message occur? At startup (while launching CarKitMode Detect Helper.exe) or when connecting or disconnecting power?
Cheers,
/Cacti
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At StartUp. Maybe it's because I use german ROM?

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Com 6 Just Not Not Seen At All - Help ??

Guys - UK MDA Vario... cant get ANY GPS app to see my BT GPS. I have the Outbound port set as Com 6 but no apps can see it ( the port that is ) ... Any suggestions ?
TIA
PS tried Com 7 as well. ( and I've been working on this for 2 days now )
Terran
BTW Get a '?' next to the Bluetooth item the Qstarz BT-Q880 GPS... but it defo works on my PC.
Found this... http://www.bluetooth.jazztel.es/ - Going to give it a go...
Please download the latest version from the download area and install it. Just execute the installer. Afterwards you will find a new line for the power management on the today screen. Next time when you bond a Bluetooth device there will be an additional dialog after entering the pin and confirming the device name. Therefore you should first remove your device again if you bonded them already.
The "Today" screen
The icon on the left activates or deactivates Bluetooth. The clock symbol switches automatic power off for Bluetooth on or off. When activated (white backround as in the picture) then Bluetooth will be switch off after 60sec of inactivity.
The two battery icons on the right side let you switch between two profiles for auto power off of the PDA and the back light. For example you may switch to the second mode and adjust the settings to "always on" and "never switch back light off". Thereby you can switch the PDA with one simple to "always on" when you are in your car and want to use GPS navigation.
The profiles
Add your Bluetooth device as usual. You will get now a new dialog after the last step:
Please note that currently only the following profiles are available
Headset/Car kit Serial port ActiveSync Modem
Headset/Car kit
With this profile you may use your headset or car kit to make phone calls. Both headsets (headset profile) and car kits (handsfree profile) are supported and you may use up to 9 devices.
Bluetooth is switched on automatically on incoming calls. However it take some seconds until the connection to the headset/car kit is established. If you leave Bluetooth always on there is no delay.
The call is passed always to the device where you take the call. This means if you answer with the PDA button then the built-in speaker is used. If you used the headset button the call will be passed to the corresponding headset.
To pass the call from the PDA to the headset or from one headset to another just press button of the corresponding headset.
To hang up just press the button on the currently active headset or use the PDA button.
Obviously you can only dial via headset if you leave Bluetooth always on. The button on the headset acts like the phone button on the PDA. This means pressing it the first time switch the PDA on (if powered off) and switches to the phone application. Pressing the button again dials the last number.
Serial port
With the serial port profile you can use a device, which emulates a serial port, like a GPS receiver for example. After marking the checkbox you can select the desired port. Just click on OK and now your serial port is ready to use. Just start your application and choose the same port.
ActiveSync
Just mark the checkbox below ActiveSync and click on OK. Now start ActiveSync from the Start menu. There is now a new entry in the menu of ActiveSync to use the Bluetooth connection. Naturally this connection uses data encryption to protect your data.
Note: To use the ActiveSync connection you must identify the virtual port on your PC and configure ActiveSync accordingly.
Modem
I could not try this function because I don't have a Bluetooth modem but it should work without any problems. Just mark the checkbox and click on OK. Now your modem is ready to use.
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Terran
You probably need GPS software that is compatible with Windows Mobile 5. However, most of them are not entirely updated to support WM5 just yet. I hear some people have gotten Navigon to work, and TomTom with a huge workaround. Destinator PN5 doesn't see the COM ports. iGuidance 2.1.3 works beautifully except for the map-loader not working through ActiveSync 4.x.
try looking at this link....
http://forum.xda-developers.com/viewtopic.php?t=29606
aliendad said:
try looking at this link....
http://forum.xda-developers.com/viewtopic.php?t=29606
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Thanks - seen it...
Followed
STEP 4 : INSTALL TOMTOM5
1. Establish a bond with your GPS and select the checkbox for serial access.
2. In the GPS control panel, select the GPS program to 6 and make sure that the hardware one, is set to None.
4. Start TT5 and the GPS settings, select another bluetooth GPS, and you will see COM 6 free. Select COM 6 and close TT5.
5. At the GPS control panel again, now select COM (none)
6. At BT: select OUTGOING port to 6.
7. Finally start TT5 and it should connect automatically. Wait for a couple of seconds and click the GPS settings and you should see it has connected.
Manged to see the com port in Tomtom but would not get it to see the GPS.... I'm still wondering becuse of the ? next to the item under the BT Control pannel...... I'm wondering if for some reason it does not recognise this as a GPS and is refusing to talk to it.
That been said it does have serial profile and connects ok...
Terran
it is a bit strange? but officialy TomTom is not mobile 5 ready.
aliendad said:
it is a bit strange? but officialy TomTom is not mobile 5 ready.
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thats my point... its not just TT that has the issue - tried some really basic progs just to show reception and get the same... ahhhhh
Terran
tomtom doesn't need bt to be enabled on the pda, and if you forget this, (like i used to) other programs wont work if bt is not enabled on the pda
aliendad said:
tomtom doesn't need bt to be enabled on the pda, and if you forget this, (like i used to) other programs wont work if bt is not enabled on the pda
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But can you have it enabled with Tomtom ( if I follow you ? )
Terran
aliendad said:
tomtom doesn't need bt to be enabled on the pda, and if you forget this, (like i used to) other programs wont work if bt is not enabled on the pda
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This comment was usfull - I removed the BT support from Tomtom and the other progs 'VisualGPS' can now see it.... still working on Tom tom though
Terran
EDIT Yaaaa it works...
Upgraded to 5.1 and sussed... so overview for my Vairo install proceedure ( 3 days this has took lol )
Enable the GPS control pannel - but TBH I dont think you acutally need this any way
Added GPS as per prev threds ( ie Add com 6 etc )
Install Tomtom but not the BT support pack
Install the update
Set GPS settings
Job done
Terran

Modifying the flight mode facility

I currently use a QTEK s110 mainly for sat nav purposes. i dont use it as a phone at all. i am using tom tom5 with a globalsat bt-338 bluetooth reciever. with the bluetooth running it runs the pda battery down in about 2-3 hours if i forgot to lift the car charger from the other car. also it is a pin to start up as i have switch flight mode off and then wait fo rth phone to boot up before activating the tt software. so here are my questions.
is there anyway i can just get the tom tom to switch the flight mode off when i activate the tom tom software?
or is there anyway i can switch the pda off when not in flightmode rather than put it in standby as this just wastes the battery?
Can a shortcut button be created for the flight mode facility?
is there a fix for running the bluetooth with the flight mode on?
at present i have to switch off flight mode which becomes a pain when i have to switch it back on.
i have looked in to using the Globalsat sd-502 but it has compatibility issues.
i appreciate any help on this
Teb
"is there a fix for running the bluetooth with the flight mode on? "
tebs,
I know how you feel. This seems to be a problem with certain firmwares of the Qtec S110.
My manual states that holding down the power button turns the phone part off but not on my phone.
I'm currently testing Phone Alarm. It allows you to set up profiles. I've set one up which switches the radio (i.e. phone) off and bluetooth on. With it you don't have to go anywhere near flight mode. In fact, if you do, it'll get a bit confused. It's two presses on the today page to change modes. You can configure it to automatically put your phone pin in when switching the phone on. It's one press to toggle bluetooth on or off.
It takes some configuring but may do the job and its quite cheap (30 day trial)
Hi Borg,
i have also been using phone alarm for the last 3 weeks or so and its workin quite well. look as if i`ll have to purchase the software as my 30 day trial period is about to expire.
Yes, it's a pain that we have to buy software just to do what should be standard i.e. have bluetooth on without the phone on, but there you go. I contacted Qtek about this and they were pretty useless. Eventually I convinced them that it wasn't a faulty device but a faulty firmware and the only firmware that they offered me was the one I already had which is when I turned to PhoneAlarm.
Maybe one day HTC will put two physical switches on their devices to turn off phone and bluetooth - much better than software flight mode.
On a related note: I use sat nav whilst walking. I would like my bluetooth to actually turn off when I turn the device off so as to save PDA battery power. I'm sure the manual says it does turn off when you turn off the device but again it doesn't with my firmware - does yours?
borgs said:
Maybe one day HTC will put two physical switches on their devices to turn off phone and bluetooth - much better than software flight mode.
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I've been saying that for ages! But honestly I dont even need physical buttons. If they would at least make the communications module togging (ie flight mode plus other radio functions) accessible from an on screen area bigger than a pinhead, that would be enough for a start. Its impossible to do it one handed. I'd love to know who the bonehead is at MS product development that okayed such awful ergonomics on a critical funciton...
Borg, my one is the same i cannot switch it off with the bluetooth running. need to switch it off first before switching the pda off otherwise the screen goes blank for a second then comes back up again!
skagen i totally agree with your comments.
its a pity the globalsat sd-502 doesnt work with it either that way you`d save loads of power not using the bluetooth at all. unfortunately once again the qtek has let us done on that one too as it doesnt detect the memory card!
Try
1. radiooff.exe
2. Turn on Blutooth
3. Tomtom -> GPS -> Configure -> Other NMEA GPS (4800,COM5 )
tebs said:
is there a fix for running the bluetooth with the flight mode on?
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Try this:
[HKEY_LOCAL_MACHINE\SOFTWARE\HTC\FlightMode]
"IsFMCheckEnable"=dword:00000000
"WarningMsg"="Please turn Flight Mode off first"
Change "IsFMCheckEnable"=dword:00000001 to "IsFMCheckEnable"=dword:00000000
Works for me...
Bye
it doesnt exist on my registry
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Krisu said:
Try
1. radiooff.exe
2. Turn on Blutooth
3. Tomtom -> GPS -> Configure -> Other NMEA GPS (4800,COM5 )
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radiooff.exe sounds interesting but I couldn't find it on my pocketPC. I looked in the windows directory and then I did a find. Is it a third party product?
Please ignore, I wasn't logged in when I read that message and so it didn't show me the download. Thanks
moghisi101 said:
tebs said:
is there a fix for running the bluetooth with the flight mode on?
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Try this:
[HKEY_LOCAL_MACHINE\SOFTWARE\HTC\FlightMode]
"IsFMCheckEnable"=dword:00000000
"WarningMsg"="Please turn Flight Mode off first"
Change "IsFMCheckEnable"=dword:00000001 to "IsFMCheckEnable"=dword:00000000
Works for me...
Bye
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This also doesn't exist in my registry but the warningmsg part exists under OEM rather than HTC. But, if I add IsFMCheckEnable 0 it has no effect.
I think that this is probably a difference between the Qtek firmwares and the iMate firmwares. Qtek seem to have stuffed up in their current firmware.
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Krisu said:
Try
1. radiooff.exe
2. Turn on Blutooth
3. Tomtom -> GPS -> Configure -> Other NMEA GPS (4800,COM5 )
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Fantastic - thank you so much Krisu!
I have now uninstalled PhoneAlarm, done a soft reset and can now toggle the phone off and on using that app. If the bluetooth is currently running it leaves it running. No need to go near the flight mode button and should be able to assign it to one of the keys for fast turning off of the phone.
Thanks again!
borgs said:
moghisi101 said:
tebs said:
is there a fix for running the bluetooth with the flight mode on?
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Try this:
[HKEY_LOCAL_MACHINE\SOFTWARE\HTC\FlightMode]
"IsFMCheckEnable"=dword:00000000
"WarningMsg"="Please turn Flight Mode off first"
Change "IsFMCheckEnable"=dword:00000001 to "IsFMCheckEnable"=dword:00000000
Works for me...
Bye
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This also doesn't exist in my registry but the warningmsg part exists under OEM rather than HTC. But, if I add IsFMCheckEnable 0 it has no effect.
I think that this is probably a difference between the Qtek firmwares and the iMate firmwares. Qtek seem to have stuffed up in their current firmware.
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LOL, yea I forgot to mention that my Qtek is running on an Imate ROM. That may be why...
moghisii101: No probs mate, I appreciate the info - if anything its shown me that the iMate rom flight mode is better implemented than the Qtek version.
tebs: check this thread out: http://forum.xda-developers.com/viewtopic.php?t=39281
You will find a bluetooth cycle program there (CicleBT). It seems to work ok with radiooff.exe but can get a bit confused if you download (from there) and use FlightMode. So I would suggest that you use radiooff.exe and CicleBT. I've assigned them to buttons. Phone Profiler also seems to have problems with our dodgy firmware. Again this is not the program's fault but what Qtek have done with their firmare.
And cheers for your thread as you've helped me solve my problems!
Check out SKScheMa at www.s-k-tools.com as it can turn WiFi BT and GSM on and off from a scripting language or from its scheduler.
Cheers cjb
I use the bluesoleil BT stack,and I can use tomtom with the phone off!

Bluetooth bug with Car Kits. Turns off and on and off and .

I searched and didn't find any previous postings regarding an issue with Parrot and Audi Hands Free (Bluetooth) car kits and the TyTn.
This issue is only with the TyTn and the Wizard devices work fine.
It seems to pair fine with the car kits but 5 minutes into usage...the TyTn turns the bluetooth off on the device.
Then about 1 min later, turns Bluetooth on again. The cycle then begins Off and then On ....
Here's a link on the Parrot forum.
http://www.parrot.biz/forums/english/viewtopic.php?id=2667
I've got the same problem with my Seat Leon (new model) bluetooth carkit !!!
I think it's the same module as in the Audi (all VAG related cars).
It's very irritating !
I hope they will fix it soon....
http://forum.xda-developers.com/viewtopic.php?t=58789&highlight=
:wink:
Er... not followed as far as parrot (down for maintennance) BUT
I've found with my Seat Leon kit that the phone needs to remain in a fully powered state - you can't put it into the sleepy state by the power button otherwise you get the intermittent but eventually endless dingling of it connecting and disconnecting.
Best way I've found is to leave it on asking for a password with the cover on.
edit: Should just point out that you also need to turn off any power off settings - except for the backlight.
Pyranwolf said:
Er... not followed as far as parrot (down for maintennance) BUT
I've found with my Seat Leon kit that the phone needs to remain in a fully powered state - you can't put it into the sleepy state by the power button otherwise you get the intermittent but eventually endless dingling of it connecting and disconnecting.
Best way I've found is to leave it on asking for a password with the cover on.
edit: Should just point out that you also need to turn off any power off settings - except for the backlight.
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I'm going to try this !
I hope that it works.
Thanks anyway.
What kind of Leon do you have ?
I've got an A6 with BT kit and am having this problem. I cannot make/receive a call whilst running my BT GPS device & TomTom, although from reading this the issue may be the Audi kit anyhow.
Are there any fixes available - be it HTC or Audi? Or are there any work-arounds, such as add-on software for the TyTN??
Please help - it is driving me mad. Spoiling what is otherwise a great piece of kit.
I have been having this exact problem with my Audi A4 with Audi Bluetooth.
I did wonder if it was in some way connected with the phone going into sleepy mode as it is being powered by the phone battery.
Also, the bluetooth stops responding after 5-10 minutes, but if I am continously using the phone, it seems to be ok.
Therefore, I think I need to buy an in car charger, and see what happens...
Has anybody else tried this that can confirm it works?
Markee
Just a quick note to Paul_o
My Audi A4 / SPV M3100 / Tom Tom / Bluetooth GPS work fine together.
If I am in Tom Tom, and get an incoming call, the little call window pops up over Tom Tom, Tom Tom carries on and the phone audio is routed through the speakers - the only irritating thing is that the Tom Tom lady keeps interrupting... :wink:
Mark
Hi,
I'm using Vario 2 with Audi Bluetooth and also having the BT ON - BT OFF issues.
These are my findings.
- Without JETWARE software:
- BT goes ON and OFF in the car regardless of the VARIO 2 being on or stand-by, or the phone being battery powered or connected to the car.
- Once a conversation is started the BT connection seems to be remain ON.
- With JETWARE software
- If I leave the screen always on the BT connection stays always ON. Only backlight automatic switch-off is selected
- I have tried several screen toggle programs (which claim that they only power down the screen) but the BT goes OFF in the car after a few minutes.
I'm happy to test any other proposal.
Cheers,
C
What version of JetWare are you running, they have a beta which has settings for the Audi kit, this may help, there is also a registry setting that is meant to change the power settings when bt is connected. An extract from an email conversation with Jetware...
We have also addressed the power issue, but this fix requires a registry change. Please create a DWORD registry value in HKLM\Software\JETware\AGExt named InSessionPower with a value of 0 (valid values are 0-4, with lower values indicating greater power availability). This will tell the OS that the Bluetooth device should stay at full power while it is in a Hands-free session.
Not sure if this will help, my Hermes is ariving on Monday, I'm was hoping that all the problems i've had with my magicain and the audi kit would go away with the Hermes, but maybe not.
Give the key a go and let me know
Hi dh,
thanks for your reply.
I haven't installed the Beta version yet. However I have changed the registry setting and will test first thing tomorrow. If this doesn't fix the problem I will try the Beta version with the Audi setting.
I'll keep you posted.
Cheers,
Carles
Hi dh,
I have tested the two proposals (Change in the registry and the Beta version + Audi settings) without much luck. The BT connection with the car keeps going ON and OFF when the phone is running on battery.
Have you got your Hermes? any luck?
Thanks,
Carles
Got my Hermes (Orange M3100) a couple of days ago. I've installed the JetWare extention, and without the InSessionPower set the connection is dropped. So far with the setting applied it has stayed connected. I have had other problems like not being able to make calls etc, which is a bit of a issue. I need to do some more testing, as i've been messing with the phone a bit.
I'll update here in a couple of days
Must say i'm very disapointed with the phone regarding this. A couple of weeks ago i had a Wizard which worked flawlessly with the JetWare extention, no power issues, calls made and received without a single problem. I wonder what has changed with the bt implementation between the Wizard and the Hermes?
Hi dh,
You will see from my previous postings I have had the same problems too.
It should be noted, though, that the Vario (wizard) worked flawlessly with the Audi A4 Bluetooth without Jetware software.
Has anybody been able to prove there is no problems if the phone (SPVM3100) is powered whilst in the car?
Cheers
Mark
I have a factory fitted hands free system in my Vauxhall. Every other phone you can think of works with it...EXCEPT my XDA mini. It seems to pair up, but there is no signal showing from the carkit. It might work for a minute and then it drops out. Is it the XDA or Vauxhall that's at fault? It seems that nobody knows the answer and I paid serious money for this bit of car kit. I like the phone, it really is annoying. I have tried another XDA mini as well and that doesn't work either. Does anybody else have a Vauxhall with the same built-in system and not connecting?
Markee
I've had the phone plugged in without the registry entry and it seemed to be ok. If I can get to a stage of a working solution i'll test again without the registry entry and with external power.
dh said:
Must say i'm very disapointed with the phone regarding this. A couple of weeks ago i had a Wizard which worked flawlessly with the JetWare extention, no power issues, calls made and received without a single problem. I wonder what has changed with the bt implementation between the Wizard and the Hermes?
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I'm guessing that since they went from BT1.1 to BT2.0 they had to make a new stack.
My Wizard worked PERFECTLY on my Parrot, my TyTN is almost useless on it.
you make a very good point ScottC, that'll be what it is.
Just driven home and could not make a single call with Jetware installed. Removed it and i could at least make a call, but i didn't get any status info or phone book. I didn't get a chance to leave it connected without Jetware for longer enough to see if it disconnected without external power, i imagine it will. I will test some more later/tomorrow. I'll also send an email to Jetware to see what there thoughts are regarding bt v2.0 and their product
Hello,
I have an Audi A3 with the factory fitted Phone kit but without the Audi Craddle so I'm using the Bluetooth connection.
I have tried the Vario (Wizard/QTEK 9100) and Vario 2 (Hermes/TyTN) and had similar problems with the two of them. Once the connection is stablished I can make and receive calls without problems. The issue is that the BT connection goes ON and OFF without an apparent reason.
The only thing I have seen is that when the Vario is kept on (only the backlight is off) the BT connection normally stays ON, regardless of the phone being powered or not.
I have tried Jetware, the Beta version, the registry entry, programs to switch off the screen...but haven't seen any real difference.
I have bought a bluetooth USB stick and will do some test at home to see if the problem is with the car or the phone.
I called T-mobile and they said it was a faulty phone, but I don't think so.
Keep the postings, we might end up finding a solution
Cheers
C
Try upgrade the BT software. I had the same problem after that i upgraded de Parrot software. Now i have the version 4.16

Auto Bluetooth On/Off when connecting to USB charger

Above says it all really.
I could live with bluetooth on even when syncing with PC.
My situation:
I am in and out of my car all day. I can't stand to wear earpiece so have bluetooth speaker/mic in car.
When I get out of car I have to turn bluetooth off as I am still in range when I knock on customer's door. I know I should just turn it off as I leave the car and back on when I return, but it's a real pain. I religiously put my phone on charge when in the car because of the poor battery life, so my request would certainly be fantastic for me.
I believe Phonealarm offers this, but from memory it was not very reliable. Also, as I have just installed my first rom from this forum, I want to try and keep things as 'lite' as possible. I don't need a whole software package.
Is this an easy thing to create?
It's quite easy with skschema. It worth a try
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It's quite easy with skschema. It worth a try
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Thank you for the info.
I'll give it a try tomorrow
Okay I have looked at skschema, and to be honest I don't know what I am doing.
I don't want to end up having to press anything. I just want plug in USB - bluetooth on, USB unplug - bluetooth off. I can tell you that phonealarm have this facility, but it just does not work [and you need to disable touchflo] so I'm rather glad it doesn't work
If it is really easy is there anyone out there that can do it for me. I will pay them for the cost of skschema. I believe there are 2 versions but basically $11.
Obviously it needs to work properly. Details below may help.
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ok, I know this is an old thread, but I have exactly the same probs!
It would be awesome if everytime I charge my phone the bluetooth connection enables and if i stop charging the bt will disable!
Anybody knows what to do without one more tool running in background?
Any possibility doing it with the registry????
I think this is what you are after:
http://www.kixass.net/bluepower/
I'm using G-Profile to do that:
http://www.ageye.de/index.php?s=galarm/about
Thanks for your replys!
I´m going to check that out...
Thanks so far guys !
BluePower looks very good at first sight...
heinerle said:
Thanks for your replys!
I´m going to check that out...
Thanks so far guys !
BluePower looks very good at first sight...
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BluePower IS very good. I never thought of this and so assigned a softkey on my homepage to switching Bluetooth on/off. What a waste of a softkey. Thanks JasonKruys...
You will need to soft reset after installing it (well, I did). Once I can be sure it works very well, I will also disable the HTC phonepad (to save valuable storage space and to enable my phone to ring quicker when called). The reason for having it in the first place was to enable the bluetooth icon in the taskbar. This icon doesn't work when using the Windows dialer skin......

(app idea) auto start/stop bluetooth in car

Maybe this idea has already been discussed but i would love my bluetooth radio to start and stop when plugged into my car charger.
I dont think the device can differentiate a normal charger or car charger. It will still have the same output! Probably a button on the screen to change to bluetooth radio will help a lot.
I had the same thought...
In the future this might be solved by using RFID
you put one of those babies in your car and the phone senses that and switched to "car mode", the same could work when you are in the office
but for now..
I was thinking of using a mortscript which checks the current time
(since I'm in the car in the morning and evening)
and the day (mon through to fri)
if all those match turn on BT, otherwise don't.
I've written an application which will run all mscr files in a certain directory every X time ( http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=449657)
I was planning to use it for the above.
btw. it is possible to write an application which will turn on your BT when you plug it in the charger, but that would be any changer... not just your car charger...
Of course there are several apps that are able to do this job.
For example PhoneWeaver
http://www.sbsh.net/products/windows_mobile_pocket_pc/phoneweaver
You can set a profile fired by external power on event and in this profile you can define only BT on event.
Very easy, robust and nice application for only $14.95 - works on touch diamond/pro and on my Touch HD as well.
For this purpose, I'm using BluePower (Freeware).
http://www.kixass.net/bluepower/
I already wrote the author an email for some feature requests, but didn't get an answer yet. But it still works fine (with some issues).
-Lycox
Thanks for the suggestions
I will certainly give the two suggestions a look. I have no programming experience so writing scripts is a little out of my reach but thanks anyway.
Update; The bluepower app work perfectly, does everything i need and its free..
probably you can start "toggle bluetooth link"(mortscript or whatever) the same way as repllog.exe starts when you're connected to pc.
there is an option in notifications "start when AC on". just a wild guess, i'm sure it can be easily implemented somehow.
CommManagerPro can also turn BT on/off on a schedule, as well as location-based.

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