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Hi. I'm from Moscow, Russia and I've got a problem with my future (i hope) HTC Topaz.
After analyzing our(Russian) market I've came to a conclusion that there are at least 2 types of this device:
1. From Taiwan, certified, with guarantee, with Russian windows mobile - i.e. official one - 497.2$
2. From China, NOT certified, there are NO guarantee, English windows, the only document which comes with this device is a cash-memo and user manual - that's all (as salesman told me). price - 396$
100$ difference is a big money in my case. English Windows is not a problem, 'cause there are lots of info on howto change firmware. as for the guarantee - all the stuff i bought earlier (notebooks, cameras) are working just fine, I've never been at the service center before - so i hope i won't need one in future.
The question is: how to determine that the device I'm going to buy (before actually buying it; I'll have nearly 10-20 min) is a real one and not a fake like e.g. "HTS tauch brilliant2" or "Pear iFone 5g", that inside it's absolutely identical to the certified one, that the hardware is the same and I'll be able to change firmware. One of the problems is i won't be able to insert Sim and make a call, test WiFi and etc, 'cause the phone is probably locked. Is there any way, any program that allows to display a list of hardware inside this PDA on its screen or on the screen of notebook. Or maybe there is a list of serial numbers somewhere and i can compare them to the one i'll see under the battery? Maybe someone has bought it for extremely low price and really satisfied with it?
Any ideas and opinions are appreciated!
Thnx!
Best regards, Rudbur.
$396 is fake diamond 2 - it is easy to figure out - just turn it on and you'll see for yourself. real greyimport diamond 2 costs now $500, but it will has no manufacturer warranty anyway, don't get yourself tricked... if you want warranty - buy legally imported PCT device.
Oh, fellow countryman! Thanks for the answer!
You probably know (price.ru) what stores i mean. So, let's assume this: I'm ordering two different HTCs: one for 400$ and one for 500$. I turn them on (simultaneously), and what should i expect when testing the fake one?
If there's no difference at all - same buttons, same size, same menu and etc (except language: russian and english), should i buy cheapest?
oh, and i heard or read somewhere that china shops offer real topaz for 333$. Or am i wrong?
The Chinese "copies" aren't actually the same at all.
The names are similar/identical, and they try to mimmick the physical appearance of a genuine device, but the software and internals are all different. Usually there a obvious differences like a lower resolution camera, room for dual SIM cards etc.
I've never seen one myself, but I would imagine once you switch it on you'll get default Windows Mobile with no HTC add-ons. I doubt they have gone to the trouble of faking an entire HTC ROM as well - but I might be wrong.
Hi,
I can testify here, as I have been living in China for a while, and buying phones from the grey market for a while too.
a few things to know:
Real fake chinese stuff will not even have HTC written on it. MTC or something like that. The plastic looks cheap, and it wouldn't even have winmo on it. I saw a "Nolia N95" the other day with the Sony Ericsson interface on it!
Then, in china, you got an official one for real cheap, but the brand is Dopodo, and they don't have wifi built-in. It's the real stuff, but for chinese market only.
At last, the grey market stuff, like mine which I paid the equivalent of 400USD has, I believe "fallen from the truck" in HK... So it got the HK Rom in it, ot Taiwanese, not so certain, as it was in CHS, and they use CHT in those regions.
So, briefly, chinese fake will be very, very easy to spot Hope that helps!
Thanks to you all, guys. I hope the shop I'm going to buy from will allow me to test these devices and save few bucks. I emailed them earlier, asking about guarantee, prices and so on, but they haven't answered yet.
kipue, your opinion is especially important, because you lived there, you know what's what. So I'll draw attention to the labels on it, camera, functioning of wifi, windows mobile menus and all.
After actually buying it I'll post a reply here.
Best regards, Rudbur.
Hi,
I was looking for a winmo phone to be updated on the stock quotes. I shortlisted to touch2. But in India, there is a special version named T3320. And this one is cheaper. The spec sheet shows it doesn't have 3G. But the price difference is too high, are there any other differences?
http://www.htc.com/in/product/touch2/specification.html (Click special version).
BTW, I need something like the stocks tab in HD2 on the touch2. Is there any ROM that includes it? (the stocks tab doesn't need 3d accelerator i guess).
Have checked and could not see any other difference.....you must determine if you need 3G or not. Myself have in my communication manager a GSM/3G switch installed. In most cases GSM is good enough for me. Saves your battery also.
What is price difference actually? Perhaps is in accesoiries?
You can check with a local HTC dealer.
I am in India next week....and usually one of activities on my trips is to check out the various electronics markets.....always on the hunt for something new....
If I have the chance will check and report back.......
I think i saw somewhere it doesnt have GPS too, am i right? I think its connected with the laws there, i said i think i red about it somewhere.
well, GPS is indeed not mentioned at http://www.htc.com/in/product/touch2/spec_special.html
Here is the reply which i got from HTC Support
Dear Mr. Bhatia,
Thank you for contacting our Customer Support Center. We are dedicated to providing you with the best quality service and answering all of your questions and concerns.
To clarify your issue, you stated that: You want to the difference between the Touch 2 models,
In this regard we would like to intimate you that that you can check with link,http://www.htc.com/in/product/touch2/specification.html for T-3333 and check with the link http://www.htc.com/in/product/touch2/spec_special.html for Touch 2 t-3320 phone models.
HTC Touch2 phone(model no-T3320) is not a GPS enabled phone and also do not have 3G services while the other Touch 2 phone( model no- T3333) is GPS enabled and have 3 G functionality.
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These are the only two differences that they have told.
Regards,
Naveen
Thanks for the reply guys. My friend has finally bought that phone. I had checked it just once. I didn't quite like it.. this was the first htc device on my hand and I had expected a lot...
The price of the T3320 (the one my friend bought) was 12,500 INR.
Whereas the price of the T3333 (with 3g and gps) is 21,000 INR.
If the only difference between the two phones is 3g and gps, then I'm pretty sure that the touch2 T3333 is definitely not worth its price. It doesn't have autofocus and flash? If my friend had spent 21K and had found out that it doesn't have flash, he would've felt sorry for buying that phone. And touch sensitivity is not bad and not too good. It was okay.
But for 12K the T3230 is a bit worthy. If only it had a auto focus and flash and a 3d accelerator (hee hee hee I know this is too much) for running Touch Flo 3D or HD2 Sense UI.
unfortunately my screen broke and sent it off to the repairers but they couldnt fix it. it was t-mobile locked and had the latest rom (1.72??) however the one i am getting as a replacement is a sim free HD2.
my question is what is the difference between the 2 and what official rom should i update it with when i get the phone.
on the plus side, i will have 2 battteries now (both official HTC ones) so can carry a spare with me
jonyid said:
unfortunately my screen broke and sent it off to the repairers but they couldnt fix it. it was t-mobile locked and had the latest rom (1.72??) however the one i am getting as a replacement is a sim free HD2.
my question is what is the difference between the 2 and what official rom should i update it with when i get the phone.
on the plus side, i will have 2 battteries now (both official HTC ones) so can carry a spare with me
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Depends on what bloatware you had installed. Guessing you had a non-US T-Mobile?
I think the 1.72 is the latest, but take a look at the HTC support page http://www.htc.com/uk/supportdownloadlist.aspx?p_id=297&act=sd&cat=all when you get the new handset and check with the serial number.
I had that very same thing happen to me when I sent my X1 back, got a new battery as a spare!
yeah its a uk model. well i have 2 brand spanking new batteries because my charger broke and i HTC went to send me a new one, but sent a new battery instead then another charger so all in all will have 2 new chargers and 2 new batteries and a shiny new HD2. although have been thinking about it and am tempted to sell te sim-free HD2 then save up for another phone
Hi,
I have been using LEO more than 1 year and I was very happy with it. But I faced with many problems with my LEO in last 2 months. I never used any costom roms during first one year. Generally I carried it in my back pocket (now I suggest you, don't do that.) . 2 months ago it reset itself and restarted like first start of winmo, it prepare itself for first use. I lost many data at that point , then I think that this was a chance to try custom roms and android. I load a custom rom and android in SD card, all was ok for a few days, but then I started get SODs and WSODs several times in a day. I apply many things that I learned from this forum ( by the way thanks everybody really I learned many many things about HD2) task 29, task 2a, auto backlight off, hard reset, soft reset, original ROm loading etc etc:
What I have done when I got SOD,
-remove battery,
-place battery,
-Then sometimes it worked as expected but more times I got WSOD,
-when I got WSOD (at the begining installing custom rom via usb were ok but last 2 weeks it wasn't enough) then I perform task 2a, tak 29, then I install original ROM from SD card,
-then I perform HSPL,
-install radio (generally 2.14.50...)
-install costum rom
-then all become ok.
But then a few hours later I got SOD again
I suddenly realize that when HD2 a litle bit bended ( like in my pocket when I was walking) SOD occured. I observed a litle more than I decide to dissasemble HD2( because it has no warranty ), I couldn't find any cable or connector losen. It is strongly possible that Main board defected while in my pocket.
I searched forum and I find one who has same problem and he/she replaced Mainboard then he/she never get SOD anymore.
So please help me where can I buy a mainboard for HD2? I prefer buy it online, because I am sure that I can't buy it in Turkey.
Thanks for your help.
you are going to have to google that one or send your phone to htc for repairs
i dont think you can get hold of one other than from htc themselves!
i also put my hd2 in my back pocket...it fits perfectly doesn't it ?
anhyeuemmaimai said:
you are going to have to google that one or send your phone to htc for repairs
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Thanks, already googled but found only a few bricked mainboard on ebay, all useless.
El Che said:
i dont think you can get hold of one other than from htc themselves!
i also put my hd2 in my back pocket...it fits perfectly doesn't it ?
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yeap it fits perfectly,
I sent it to service, 2 days later they sent me a text message " mainboard defective, it have to be replaced and its cost will be 450 USD" ofcourse I reject it. So I have only one possible solution: selling it for parts on ebay or local online shopping pages.
By the way thank you.
bahoiz said:
I sent it to service, 2 days later they sent me a text message " mainboard defective, it have to be replaced and its cost will be 450 USD" ofcourse I reject it. So I have only one possible solution: selling it for parts on ebay or local online shopping pages.
By the way thank you.
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merhaba
bende anakart arıyorum bugün elektropower diye bi yere vermiştim hd2 yi anakartta sorun var dediler.siz buldunuz mu acaba .teşekkürler
why dont you have warranty?
DN41
I was told by HTC UK that HD2 carries a 2 year warranty.....
vahapzade said:
merhaba
bende anakart arıyorum bugün elektropower diye bi yere vermiştim hd2 yi anakartta sorun var dediler.siz buldunuz mu acaba .teşekkürler
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hayır bulamadım hala. özelden görüşebiliriz isterseniz.
adamelphick said:
I was told by HTC UK that HD2 carries a 2 year warranty.....
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If you bought your htc from UK, ok you have warranty in UK. But in my case I bought it when I was in US, then I came back to Turkey, and my phone hasn't warranty in Turkey and I will not visit US in the near future.
If you know someone in the UK theres this http://cgi.ebay.co.uk/HTC-HD2-Mobile-Phone-Screen-Cracked-/130452670122?pt=UK_MobilePhones_MobilePhones&hash=item1e5f95c6aa
Or
http://cgi.ebay.co.uk/Htc-hd2-leo-windows-mobile-main-board-uk-/270660138958?pt=UK_Mobiles_Accessories_RL&hash=item3f0499f7ce
fig_jam_uk said:
If you know someone in the UK theres this http://cgi.ebay.co.uk/HTC-HD2-Mobile-Phone-Screen-Cracked-/130452670122?pt=UK_MobilePhones_MobilePhones&hash=item1e5f95c6aa
Or
http://cgi.ebay.co.uk/Htc-hd2-leo-windows-mobile-main-board-uk-/270660138958?pt=UK_Mobiles_Accessories_RL&hash=item3f0499f7ce
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Oh thanks , you are the man I'll ty to get one of them.
thanks again
The final of the story:
I sold it (for parts), 250 USD.
Thanks for all.
Hi,
I need new motherboard for hd2. WHere I can find it?
dzi0bas said:
Hi,
I need new motherboard for hd2. WHere I can find it?
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You can get one from HTC
More real modality is to buy from eBay a damaged T8585 for parts (i.e. with damaged sensor but able to boot and make calls).
i bought my HTC HD2 motherboard from gadgetsaving.com and it work perfect. they had it for the lowest price on the net. shipping was fast and the motherboard came with a 7 day money back
osatata said:
i bought my HTC HD2 motherboard from gadgetsaving.com and it work perfect. they had it for the lowest price on the net. shipping was fast and the motherboard came with a 7 day money back
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Would be a good idea if the site wouldn't take me all the way to check out, asked to enter a country and a region, then proceeded to tell me they only ship in USA and Canada.
I am also looking for motherboard, had been looking for quite some time too, I check eBay and such regularly, but it all comes to the seller's unwillingness to send to New Zealand. Willing to pay $85, but nobody is willing to send
Despite what some people are saying you can not buy parts directly from HTC themselves.
Excerpt from HTC repair website:
Q: Can I just buy the parts and fix my own phone?
A: We do not sell any parts directly. Link found here.
Your best bet would be to price match parts and seller reviews from Ebay and Google.
Try eBay people sell there's for parts
U need send me pm
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Anyone know a good source of new genuine Samsung batteries in the UK or Europe preferably, for the Omnia 7.
Samsung in the UK do not seem to be able to supply a new one, which I find completely amazing (how do they cover warranty repairs ?) and I can only seem to find 14 day return items on e-bay or similar, which are not very new !!!!! I was sold a battery which was 18 months old....
It is possible to buy new branded items, but I would prefer a genuine new item....
The batteries are dated so it's easy to tell how old they are.....
Thanks