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windows mobile 6.1 officially relased today!

As you can read on MS website
http://www.microsoft.com/windowsmobile/6-1/default.mspx
Today microsoft has launched Windows mobile 6.1

i also read this news on an italian portal (pockepcitalia) but theu say that HTC will release the update only for the TYTN II....
but why?

So the best feature IMO the sliding panel, is missing from the touch screen version of WM 6.1 nice

Well that link is for smartphone anyways,
but yes, pda 6.1 isn't that much of an upgrade, while smartphone version is.

that's my opinion, too
WM6.1 on PDAs is not more than a facelift.
Olioaglio

Olioaglio said:
that's my opinion, too
WM6.1 on PDAs is not more than a facelift.
Olioaglio
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A very light facelift!

well, actually not only a facelift.
I enjoy very much the zoom out in PIE and also the new chat like view of the SMS
And the embedded task manager too

Olioaglio said:
that's my opinion, too
WM6.1 on PDAs is not more than a facelift.
Olioaglio
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No, WM6.1 more faster then WM6.0
And more stability.

@Henry_Lee
Do you know that for sure or do you assume that only?

Straputsky said:
@Henry_Lee
Do you know that for sure or do you assume that only?
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I test WM6.0 original ROM and WM6.1
And I tried it also at HTC P3450. The same results.

Henry_Lee said:
I test WM6.0 original ROM and WM6.1
And I tried it also at HTC P3450. The same results.
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I take this with a grain of salt. The OS always seems faster when re-loaded for the first time.

JNGold said:
I take this with a grain of salt. The OS always seems faster when re-loaded for the first time.
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You think? But.... One week it is "first time" or not?

Henry_Lee said:
You think? But.... One week it is "first time" or not?
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Yep...still too soon. I have done my share of OS upgrading too. Use it for a month or more then compare that device with a WM 6.0 device side by side.

Henry_Lee said:
You think? But.... One week it is "first time" or not?
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You may be right on this. I also realized, that WM6.1 seems to have
optimized kernel and so be faster in response. So i confirm, that WM6.1
also in my opinion is "better" than WM6.0. My former statement of the
facelift was regarding to the optical appearance of WM6.1 on PDA devices
in comparison to the optical improvements of the Smartphone version.
Hope that made it clear
Olioaglio

As you can see there aren't that many updates from 6.0 to 6.1. But everything can run faster and better. (Hope so)
http://www.microsoft.com/windowsmobile/6-1/version-comparison.aspx

JNGold said:
Yep...still too soon. I have done my share of OS upgrading too. Use it for a month or more then compare that device with a WM 6.0 device side by side.
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Good point....
I rebooted my Orbit2 about one time per week.
I think 1-2 day enoght for stability of all cashes and good time for testing.

wonderiuy said:
well, actually not only a facelift.
I enjoy very much the zoom out in PIE and also the new chat like view of the SMS
And the embedded task manager too
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IE is way better in WM6.1 but still no match for NetFront 3.5 You can zoom out but not IN

where will apear wm6.1 for cruise ??I saw it in list for upgrade, on what site, I don't believe on htc e-club.

JAYmasta said:
where will apear wm6.1 for cruise ??I saw it in list for upgrade, on what site, I don't believe on htc e-club.
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It's not even sure if HTC will release a WM6.1 upgrade for the Touch Cruise.
Being patient is all what you can do, or use a custom rom

when I have qtek was very simple on official site was everything rom's e.t.c. but for htc e-club zero....

New TF3D

Does anyone know if the the HD will be compatible with the new TF3d? If im not mistaken HTC usually updates the phones when a new version of its UI comes out, but has there been any official word for the HD?
I like the HD, but the new UI (particular the contacts) is so much better than the vanilla wm6.1 version.

Firann said:
Does anyone know if the the HD will be compatible with the new TF3d? If im not mistaken HTC usually updates the phones when a new version of its UI comes out, but has there been any official word for the HD?
I like the HD, but the new UI (particular the contacts) is so much better than the vanilla wm6.1 version.
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The answer is a definite yes.
Check out Dutty's 1.8 Extreme ROM, he already has the HD running on the new version of TF3D I've been using it for a few days now and it's very good..

TF3d v2 only
Is it possible to get only the TF3D v2 cab?

jcarreira said:
Is it possible to get only the TF3D v2 cab?
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no, currently you have to flash Dutty's rom

Sweet thnks for the reply guys this makes the decision on getting the HD much easier

yeah, but the cab would be cool

my question is.. if dutty have the new tf3d on his rom, where did he found these files?
and we are not able to find it?

foaf said:
yeah, but the cab would be cool
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Yeah that would be cool. Can someone make a cab?

pitt1983 said:
my question is.. if dutty have the new tf3d on his rom, where did he found these files?
and we are not able to find it?
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A wild guess: He has access to a Diamond 2 or Touch Pro 2 ROM The hardware of the HD is practicaly identical as well as the screen resolution so porting if any would be limited to disabling any eventual hardware checks for the particular device.
Have you ever wondered how we already have WinMo 6.5 for our devices while it's still at least 6 months away from market It was the same with 6.0 and 6.1

Anyone found a CAB for the TF3D V.2 for the HD? I don't want to flash my ROM, I haven't done it before and I am a bit iffy about it as I may lose everything on my phone with an hard reset. Anyone out there?

Bump! Anyone can help?

cocoaju said:
Anyone found a CAB for the TF3D V.2 for the HD? I don't want to flash my ROM, I haven't done it before and I am a bit iffy about it as I may lose everything on my phone with an hard reset. Anyone out there?
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I see what you mean, I would like to have it also!

I guess we just have to flash our ROMs. LOL.

As far as I know, there are no cabs for TF3D V.2 (manila v3) and there aren't any in the making (and there won't, as I don't believe it's possible to intergrate the neccessary changes without cooking them into the ROM).
If you want it, you're gonna have to flash to a cooked ROM (or maybe an htc ROM if they choose to ever release one).
Sorry

I now know. If it was available, I am sure the cheifs here would of done one already. I just don't understand why HTC won't update these UIs for free. Free upgrades to the newest TF3D will be great and will create more loyal users. As most users won't change their phones every year. They will feel happier if they can just update the UI and use it as a new phone once in a while. I think free upgrades for phones up to 3 years old is a cool idea.

The best rom?

I've been doing plenty of research on the forums and it just appears that the best rom, in terms of stability, function, speed and reliability is the Dutty 3.9 XT. Newer versions have some improvements, but with functional setbacks such as sms problems as in 4.3. The new leo roms look fancy, but again they suffer from speed and functionality also! So as a blackstone user and one to show it off to iphone fans, am I right in saying this is one of the few roms we have which is reasonably fast, stable and functional, without coming across an unexpected hickup and the iphone user wins that round!

theres no such thing as perfect ROM
its very personal to what you want to do with your phone and in what way you want to use it and if you want WM 6.1 or WM 6.5 on it,.. especially not to show off to iphone.. i go with Miri's WM 6.5, for me its my favourite, been with it since the beginning, others might thing otherwise, for what its personal
if you worry about iphone users (kids, girls, non-technology knowers most of all) and they got to the point where they dare compare an iphone to a WinMobile phone is enough for you not to waste ur time trying to get in their limited minds,.. let them show off how awesome the iphone is cause it can take pictures, and they autorotate, and how they can access the internet when they are at a wireless hotspot, and that they can access their top 5 favourite websites cause they have a shortcut of each of them on their phone's homepage, and how they have a shortcut for every single thing on their front page for instant access (now isnt that handy, i bet you we all have out PC's desktop FULL of shortcuts ).. so enjoy your phone buddy

well if u want to show off to iphone users. do go for nrg rom's. there are an eye candy, fast and improving (lesser bugs). try photon range of rom's based on 2.1 by nrg

Guys,
I'm wondering, are any 6.5 ROMs as fast as 6.1 ROMs?
Cheers.

PoisonWolf said:
Guys,
I'm wondering, are any 6.5 ROMs as fast as 6.1 ROMs?
Cheers.
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I just tried out Duttythroy's WM6.5+HTC Sence (Manila 2.5) and it was kinda laggy so I went back to Stock ROM WM6.1.

PoisonWolf said:
Guys,
I'm wondering, are any 6.5 ROMs as fast as 6.1 ROMs?
Cheers.
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It depends on the rom. Some of the new ones (with higher build number) are sooo slow, laggy and unstable... For me the most stable and fastest rom is from XannyTech. Haven´t had any problem for now (using a week) and it´s almost fast as stock rom.

Guys,
Thanks. I've actually, for the first time today, started flashing! I can see why it's addicting, but it got tedious after 2 hours of playing around. Windows Mobile 6.5 has a lot of eyecandy in general, but it's not as functional as I'd like it to be right out of the box. I've tried both Photon and Miri roms that come without Manila.
The experience I had with both was "meh".
I'm just going to install Dutty's Final 6.1 ROM and be done with it until I change phones.
Thanks again guys,
Cheers!

Maryone
I am using maryone 230064 manila 2.5 and it is fast and reliable

PoisonWolf said:
Guys,
Thanks. I've actually, for the first time today, started flashing! I can see why it's addicting, but it got tedious after 2 hours of playing around. Windows Mobile 6.5 has a lot of eyecandy in general, but it's not as functional as I'd like it to be right out of the box. I've tried both Photon and Miri roms that come without Manila.
The experience I had with both was "meh".
I'm just going to install Dutty's Final 6.1 ROM and be done with it until I change phones.
Thanks again guys,
Cheers!
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Totally agree.
In regards to the most stable 6.1 ROM, you are right on with the Dutty 3.9XT. I am on 4.3 because I am a Dutty freak. Haven't tried anyone else so I have no other experiences, but 3.9 XT FINAL is exceptional.

trendsbze said:
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Totally agree.
In regards to the most stable 6.1 ROM, you are right on with the Dutty 3.9XT. I am on 4.3 because I am a Dutty freak. Haven't tried anyone else so I have no other experiences, but 3.9 XT FINAL is exceptional.
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Trend,
Is this the same as the one in HTCPEDIA's site? With Dutty's 4.3 Final or something along that lines? Because I used Dutty's 4.3 Final from HTCPedia. Is one better than the other?
Cheers.

PoisonWolf said:
Trend,
Is this the same as the one in HTCPEDIA's site? With Dutty's 4.3 Final or something along that lines? Because I used Dutty's 4.3 Final from HTCPedia. Is one better than the other?
Cheers.
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It should be the same. It came out about the same time when the transition from XDA to HTCpedia was made.

trendsbze said:
It should be the same. It came out about the same time when the transition from XDA to HTCpedia was made.
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Trend,
Thanks! I'm just a little bummed that Dutty's Magic 8 Ball that was ported from Topaz does not work in Dutty's 4.3 Final.
It just starts up, I get the loading screen, and then it just turns off by itself and I am in Manila once more. I don't know if this is a netframework issue or... I was really looking forward to using HTC's 8 Ball.
Might you know anything about this?
Cheers.

PoisonWolf said:
Trend,
Thanks! I'm just a little bummed that Dutty's Magic 8 Ball that was ported from Topaz does not work in Dutty's 4.3 Final.
It just starts up, I get the loading screen, and then it just turns off by itself and I am in Manila once more. I don't know if this is a netframework issue or... I was really looking forward to using HTC's 8 Ball.
Might you know anything about this?
Cheers.
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Can't help on that one, I don't know what is is, a game???. I don't do any games on my phone even though I played with teeter one day and loved it.

[REQ] Dialer from the HD Mini for WM6.5.3 ROMs??

Hi All
There is a rom for the HD Mini allready in the HD Mini section! Can someone get the dialer out of it and port it WVGA? And anything else you find interesting in it!

OrionBG said:
Hi All
There is a rom for the HD Mini allready in the HD Mini section! Can someone get the dialer out of it and port it WVGA? And anything else you find interesting in it!
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Unfortunately the rom that is available at this moment doesn't run WM 6.5.3 but WM 6.5 (build 21613)

This is cruel!
Oh well... I guess that we will have to wait a little longer for it! Thanks for the info anyway. BTW Can someone tell me an alternative dialer app that is good to be used? I've been searching for a long time but I can't find anything that I like enough!

OrionBG said:
This is cruel!
Oh well... I guess that we will have to wait a little longer for it! Thanks for the info anyway. BTW Can someone tell me an alternative dialer app that is good to be used? I've been searching for a long time but I can't find anything that I like enough!
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Don't you like the current dialer? If you are looking for a fix of the button-overlap problem, I don't think that this will be fixed by a port of the Mini dialer anyway. I think that this will be solved by the new lay-out of the bottom-bar (toolbar) of the Mini.

appelflap said:
Don't you like the current dialer? If you are looking for a fix of the button-overlap problem, I don't think that this will be fixed by a port of the Mini dialer anyway. I think that this will be solved by the new lay-out of the bottom-bar (toolbar) of the Mini.
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Yes I am and I really hope that HTC will do it right! BTW does anyone know if HTC is going to release an official WM6.5.X update to the HD2?

OrionBG said:
Yes I am and I really hope that HTC will do it right! BTW does anyone know if HTC is going to release an official WM6.5.X update to the HD2?
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it will release an official wm6.5.x update, the q is when...
Hi Russell, thanks for your email.
I do not know where these network assistants got this information as it is not correct. The official answer is that "We are working closely with Microsoft on Windows Phone 7 Series and look forward to releasing new handsets which will use the new OS." reading between the lines, it would seem therefore that the answer would be no.
There are many reasons for this, not least Steve Ballmers announcement that "no current handsets will be upgraded", Also 7 Series is NOT an upgrade to 6.5. Microsoft is releasing it as a totally new and separate OS from the exisiting Windows Mobile versions. 6.5 will continue to be developed, even after 7 will be available, to offer two different OS versions for different needs. 6.5 will remain more business orientated, and for devices with OS skins on them (Like the HD2 which uses our Sense skin), and 7 Series for new, more media and social based handsets, which will not be skinned.
Therefore, I can only recommend that if you specifically want 7, you will need to wait for it to be available on new handsets If the HD2 meets your needs, then i would consider buying it anyway, as the 6.5.x software will continue to be developed even after 7 is released.
Best regards,
Pete W
HTC
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any 6.1 roms for the leo??????!!!!!

Im thinking about getting thehd but im not a fan of the winmo6.5 only because of honeycomb menu layout ...its just some ugly & disorganized. Ive downgraded from 6.5 back to 6.1 on my tp2 but I was wondering if would I be able to do the same for my hd2 even tho there is no official 6.1 rom for it that im aware of???

you know you can disable honeycomb and if you install quickmenu you'll have an even better start menu.

are you on day-release?! 6.1 was ****e!

and to be fair, 6.5 aint much better! and then they give a glympse of 7 which looks more of a mess.
From what i can see, 7 has been designed for under 5's to use...
2 more years and windows will be no more on phones!

pimppoet said:
Im thinking about getting thehd but im not a fan of the winmo6.5 only because of honeycomb menu layout ...its just some ugly & disorganized. Ive downgraded from 6.5 back to 6.1 on my tp2 but I was wondering if would I be able to do the same for my hd2 even tho there is no official 6.1 rom for it that im aware of???
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hello pimppoet
1+ searching too for an 6.1 Rom for the HD2 but i think its not exist
cheers
Peter

try DOS - it is the fastest

ys222 said:
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What system do you use on PC?
XP? Why not Vista?
This is the same issue.

6.1 is awful, truly. As someone else suggested, just disable the honeycomb menu and install quick menu.

sparklehedgehog said:
and to be fair, 6.5 aint much better! and then they give a glympse of 7 which looks more of a mess.
From what i can see, 7 has been designed for under 5's to use...
2 more years and windows will be no more on phones!
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This post shows that you do NOT know anything about the business and are leaded by your own taste. You really need to get a sight for a bit more than "just your dishes".
Sorry but i can hardly remember when i read such a bull**** on these forums...