Does it.....? Thanks
Nandroid backs up everything, Radio, kernel, screen placement of widgets, icons, etc. EVERYTHING!
I really don't think it does, it did but was taken out a few versions ago.
I stand corrected. I always thought it did.
Don't stand there too fast, I can't find a source for the info. But I do remember the change having to do with H's SPL for the dream with the radio incompatibility.
In my nandroid folder it just has system, boot, data images so I don't think it does.
It does not.
So can I use my nandroid backup from my old t-mobile nexus on my new at&t version?
Yea, it's the same phone only a hardware difference.
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i have been trying to find this out - why i need to do one????
You don't have to ... up to you .
It is for peace of mind .
It things don't workout or you don't like what you did ...
You can put the phone back to what it was !
If you wish to fly with no parachute ...
Then jump ...
Please let us know how the landing goes
Does the nandroid only back up the software and settings -
If i just download the rom from HTC then that will put it back to the latest official rom wont it..
i was under the impression that a Original hero was only 1 rom away?
You don't need a nandroid backup at all. I use it all the time though.
You just asked a question that Dan330 had already answered in his previous post... yes it backs up basically everything. There are a few things that it doesn't back up but they aren't too significant (They are left out to prevent further problems).
If you downloaded a rom from HTC well, Duh. Of course it will put it back to the official rom. If it's rootable, then you can just restore a nandroid backup if you wanna go back to what you had before. Hopefully the HTC rom doesn't prevent you from rooting otherwise you won't be able to.
What the heck do you mean Original Hero was 1 rom away? Huh?
HTC Rom image will restore the rom.
A 'normal' data backup will store the data, ie drag from the SD card.
You can reinstall any marketplace apps from the marketplace.
The Google cloud will store calendar, contacts, mail, etc.
For the average user, nandroid is not necessary. But I understand the usefulness to a rom cooking enthusiast and the speed of a single backup. All the averages do not need to worry about nandroid though.
thank you cbailey
and sorry KAwAtA i was rushing to work - and talking crap at the same time...
I never even thought that HTC would try and stop you from rooting the phone....
just always thought that having a unbranded HTC ment i can install any rom at any time, and still install the latest HTC Rom if i wanted.
Very New to Rooting. so i need a few weeks to catch up.
Nandroid takes like a "photo" of your phone at the exact time you did it and will rstore everything exactly like it was at that time, e.g. rom, data, apps EVERYTHING.
you should always do one before flashing or removing anything on your phone that you should not "officially" be doing as that way if something goes wrong you can easily get back to your working rom.
Lennyuk said:
Nandroid takes like a "photo" of your phone at the exact time you did it and will rstore everything exactly like it was at that time, e.g. rom, data, apps EVERYTHING.
you should always do one before flashing or removing anything on your phone that you should not "officially" be doing as that way if something goes wrong you can easily get back to your working rom.
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Nandroid backup keeps installed apps aswel?... I was under the assumption that I needed to use Titanium or Mybackup Pro for that.
So just to clear up, if i dont mind losing contacts, sms and calender, but want to back up current ROM with apps and games, Nandroid is the one?...
ddotpatel said:
Nandroid backup keeps installed apps aswel?... I was under the assumption that I needed to use Titanium or Mybackup Pro for that.
So just to clear up, if i dont mind losing contacts, sms and calender, but want to back up current ROM with apps and games, Nandroid is the one?...
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Nandroid takes a complete image of your phone as it is, will restore it all exactly as it was at the time you backed it up.
if your looking to change roms then you need to use another app to backup your data and apps.
Aha,... Nice one Lenny!!
nandroid backup
having problems.. Im using the old ra for some reason it doesnt let me perform an nandroid back up... I tried teh newer ra same problm...any suggestions???
Is there a way to transfer all my settings/apps/data from one ROM to a new one? Because every time I flash, it's a blank slate. I'd like to keep all my apps and stuff that I have installed on my current ROM but put it onto a newer ROM. Is it possible?
make a nandroid backup taht way when you flash if you dont like it you can restore your last image, or if you want to transfer your contacts go to People>hit menu>import/export to SD
Titanium backup.
well nandroid doesn't back up my apps and wallpapers and stuff... oh well
Nandroid does backup your apps and data. It backs up an exact image of your phone the way it is when you back up
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jasonyump said:
Nandroid does backup your apps and data. It backs up an exact image of your phone the way it is when you back up
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To that specific ROM yes, but to another ROM, no.
hocplyr98 said:
To that specific ROM yes, but to another ROM, no.
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No, its for every ROM... Thats why its called NANDroid. It backs up the entire NAND for later use.
Joesalad21 said:
No, its for every ROM... Thats why its called NANDroid. It backs up the entire NAND for later use.
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It backs up whatever info I have to lets say attn1's Liberated Aria ROM. Ok, I back that up in nandroid, then I go to flash the clean eclair beta v2 one. It says to wipe and then flash. Ok, then when the flashing is done, its clean and none of my apps are there. I want something to back my info up from one ROM to another.
well with some roms, (this is experimental and doesnt work with every combination of roms) you can use nandroid for an advanced backup, and restore only the data partition(which is your apps, settings etc.). but it doesnt work with every combination of roms. but you can also use titanium backup to just backup apps, and settings etc.
Alright, that's what I needed to hear. Thanks
just a quick question...
if I change my recovery type, as an example if I change to clockwork using ROMmanager, will i still be able to use my previous nandroid back ups?
and while i know this might be somewhat subjective, recovery image preferences?
is there a "best" one? I am still using the one I originally used on initial rooting... RA-hero...
maybe...if not, its easy enough to flash the recovery back..
You can still use your old recovery images but you have to relocate them. Clockwork stores it's images in a different folder than RA did. However once you flash Clockwork you can just move your old ones to the folder that Clockwork uses and they will still function.
Just a mention, worked great once I moved my nandroids to the new folder. had to let it backup once to create the folder, but easy peasy.
and clockwork seems really nice Lots of features...
but one strange thing... when doing a datawipe for a fresh flash, it seemed to say it was wiping the ext part too? that was annoying, thank god I did a nandroid that included my ext part in the backup. :-\
the most annoying thing about that was when i flashed the Cyanogen rom, none of my apps on ext were there (obviously), so wondering, how the hell can i access the ext part for backing up apps before wiping?
Titanium backup is your friend. It'll back up your apps and their data. It might cause some issues if you are going to a different ROM when restoring the data though. You can try it at least. It's a fantastic little app.
that seems to be a fave 'round these parts, but i have heard of a few issues, like you mentioned...
usually I use Astro from app backup/restore. works, but kinda a PITA.
BUT! I just discovered something ****ing cool about clockwork...
since I did a nandroid that Included my ext part... when i went to install a new rom for SnG (****s n giggles), well the first time I had lost my ext part apps because clockwork wipes it, but then i poked around in the restore options, under advanced restore, it gives me the option of restoring a ext part from a previous nandroid, separately from the rest of that specific backup!
so, in short, what I am testing right now:
1) data wipe (inc ext part) with clockwork.
2) flash of Cyanogen RC1 (flashing a few fixes like VVM and kernel as well)
3) then "restoring" the ext part Only from a previous nandroid backup, hopefully restoring all of my apps...?
booting up right now, results in a few mins.
lol, just realized something obvious...
2.2 (cyanogen RC1) uses a Native a2sd method, not DTs method.... crap, lol.
so next thing is to flash that Darktremmor fix, then see if my apps show? or... anyone got an idea to transfer from ext part to the native method?
EDIT: well, that didnt work, stuck on bootscreen. fug.
OK, so I have decided I am Not a fan of Clockwork recovery... no, sir,.
Could someone point me to a "better" recovery? Like for DLing, perhaps a quick tut on flashing a new recovery image?
Please?
great "quick tut" on the Unlocker site, but I can't post links....
my fav. has been the "unofficial RA" Darch 1.7something, I renamed it "rad" for easy term. typing, so I can't remember the exact name, originally got it from link on Buufed thread.
currently using Darch's Godspeed, it's ok, agree about Clockwork, don't like it.
so what good is Rom Mngr if you don't use Clockwork? sure, it's a shortcut to recovery, but that's all, and I've got Quick Boot for that, any reason not to get rid of Rom Mngr?
i personally do not like clockwork at all.
So, I just rooted my Mytouch 4G a few days ago using the 'Ultimate' guide on this forum. I had root access and I disabled and deleted some stock apps from my phone. I was using LauncherPro instead of the HTC Sense launcher. I made a backup in Clockworkmod recovery immediately after installing Clockworkmod, before I'd made any major changes.
So, I spent the past few days removing and tweaking things. I had my phone working extremely well. But then I realized that I actually wanted an .apk file (the stock visual voicemail app) that I'd already deleted from the phone. It should be in my original backup file, right? So I figured that I'd make a new backup, restore my old backup containing the .apk file, copy the .apk file off of the phone, then restore my recent backup. Well...this didn't work.
When I restored either the original backup or the more recent backup, the phone would boot up and I'd get a message that the System UIDs are inconsistent. The phone would let me make phone calls, but 95% of my apps were missing from the loader. Most of the icons on my home screens were grayed out and would tell me the applications were missing when I tried to click on them.
I tried Fix Permissions in Clockworkmod recovery, but it didn't help. My Android Market app and all of my file manager apps didn't work, so I couldn't reinstall any apps. When I'd wipe all the data on my phone, but only restore the System backup, the Android Market would work and the phone basically returns to stock. But as soon as I restore my Data backup, everything breaks.
At this point, I've already wiped the phone and started over from scratch, but I'm afraid to rely on Clockworkmod/Rom Manager for backups again. Any ideas what went wrong?
did you flash a different kernel? this may be the issue, as I know that for other devices CWM does not restore the kernel.
this happens when your backups/card gets corrupted... it could of been a number of things... changing the name of something to how much you scan the card... hard to say exactly what caused it... If your really worried about it I would suggest making a backup of your backup on your computer just to be safe...
Hmm. Mine does.
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did you flash a different kernel? this may be the issue, as I know that for other devices CWM does not restore the kernel.
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I did make a backup of my backup, but it's not like these backups sat on the memory card for months before they got used. I ran the restore within minutes of when I made the last backup. Besides, aren't the backups hashed with md5 and then retested before restoring? So, if the files did get corrupted, I would think Clockworkmod would have notified me, no?
I just wish that after making a backup, there was some way to test it out without taking the chance of trashing my phone.
Regarding using a different kernel, I did not. I did not flash any experimental/downloaded images, these were simple backups and restores of my existing phone data.
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did you flash a different kernel? this may be the issue, as I know that for other devices CWM does not restore the kernel.
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This is for phones that dont support Nand like the vibrant. HTC phones is a full backup including kernel.
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I did make a backup of my backup, but it's not like these backups sat on the memory card for months before they got used. I ran the restore within minutes of when I made the last backup. Besides, aren't the backups hashed with md5 and then retested before restoring? So, if the files did get corrupted, I would think Clockworkmod would have notified me, no?
I just wish that after making a backup, there was some way to test it out without taking the chance of trashing my phone.
Regarding using a different kernel, I did not. I did not flash any experimental/downloaded images, these were simple backups and restores of my existing phone data.
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Your right, CWM does do a md5 check when restoring. I'm sorry, I don't know what could be wrong. I currently have like 5 backups of 4 ROMS and have to restored to just to play around. Did you do apps2sd? This can cause major issues when switching ROM's.
I am also having a problem restoring to my stock rom. how big does my backup file have to be?
I have had this problem before. I think in my case my issue was caused by and incompatible version of CWM. I found that to be safe, I usually make two back ups, one with recovery in 2.5.12 and one with 3.0.0.6.
It was the file. It was only 60mb, apparently I ran out of memory thanks though my other backups work fine and I found the stock rom on a thread.
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oh haha i was about to post.
I've owned Nexus devices before and am aware of Nandroids for backing up the OS, but I have never used them.
When I re-do my device, I tend to do a pretty clean install (wipe every partition, then flash the new ROM/kernel). I ensure that no old data can "mess up" anything pretty much I keep backups of pictures, music, and game data on my computer.
Nandroids afaik are a complete OS backup of how the device was exactly during that backup. This sounds pretty awesome on-paper, but how exactly "detailed" is this process? I'm thinking the Nandroid only backups stuff found on the main partition of the device, and doesn't touch anything else (recovery, baseband, bootloader). To be fair though, I don't really care for it to touch recovery or bootloader anyway, but there are other partitions afaik, baseband being one of them.
So I guess my question is, does a Nandroid truly backup the entire state of the phone, and restore that entire state? Or does it only do a partial state restore/backup? If it's partial, how far does it really go when backing up/restoring?
If I switch to a new custom ROM or something and have issues with it, I'd rather know that such issues won't somehow persist if I restore a Nandroid basically.
espionage724 said:
I've owned Nexus devices before and am aware of Nandroids for backing up the OS, but I have never used them.
When I re-do my device, I tend to do a pretty clean install (wipe every partition, then flash the new ROM/kernel). I ensure that no old data can "mess up" anything pretty much I keep backups of pictures, music, and game data on my computer.
Nandroids afaik are a complete OS backup of how the device was exactly during that backup. This sounds pretty awesome on-paper, but how exactly "detailed" is this process? I'm thinking the Nandroid only backups stuff found on the main partition of the device, and doesn't touch anything else (recovery, baseband, bootloader). To be fair though, I don't really care for it to touch recovery or bootloader anyway, but there are other partitions afaik, baseband being one of them.
So I guess my question is, does a Nandroid truly backup the entire state of the phone, and restore that entire state? Or does it only do a partial state restore/backup? If it's partial, how far does it really go when backing up/restoring?
If I switch to a new custom ROM or something and have issues with it, I'd rather know that such issues won't somehow persist if I restore a Nandroid basically.
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If you restore a nandroid backup the new rom and settings/config will be overwritten as it will restore the previous backup system config and apps afaik.
it restores everything, like a snapshot of the state your phone was in at the time. everything but what was in your storage, thats a separate partition. its like a a free ticket to take your phone back to where it was when you made the nandroid backup.