I want a keyboard or anything which i can use as jog button. Up, down, left, right and center. I want to use this for playing java games on my Touch2.
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I'm trying to set up Duke Nukem 3D on the Wizard and can't find the key names or codes for various keys, like the camera, call, hang up, backlight etc...
Any ideas?
I think most of the hardware keys are in the normal range of F1, F2 etc.
Eg I think the hangup key is like F4.
Check here:
http://www.vijay555.com/index.php?Releases:VJKeyPress:Key_List
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Aren't the pickup and hangup keys hard-bound in Windows Mobile to the phone options, and the nagup key is always set to hangup the phone call, or kill the current app? I've always found that I can minimise ANY running app by hitting the hangup key. Which has its uses, but is wholly impractical for mapping keys to functions in games and stuff.
christopherwoods: no the hard keys aren't mapped to the phone. Well, in a way they are, but not internally. Basically, if the phone app, cprog.exe, is working, it will intercept keys F3 and F4 and interpret those as dial/hangup keys. So using my program VJKeyPress you can simulate red and green with VJKeyPress 114 or 115
However, if you redefine the function of those keys, eg using a program like AE Button Plus, if you then simulate pressing F3 or F4, then it will perform the function chosen in AEButtonPlus. So, the keys can be overriden. Using VJKeyPress 114 will not simulate the phone key etc.
I've always found that I can minimise ANY running app by hitting the hangup key. Which has its uses, but is wholly impractical for mapping keys to functions in games and stuff
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In normal use the red button doesn't minimse windows, it just jumps to the today screen I think. It certainly doesn't close windows. To close windows with the hangup key, check out my program VJOkButt.
Most programs written with GAPI will override the hardware key settings. However, if your game doesn't, use AE Button Plus to remap it to any other key press (perhaps by using my VJKeyPress). Then your game won't have fits when you press it.
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Yeah, when I said minimise I meant that it shows the Today screen, and apps behave in the same way as if they're closed using the X - they don't really close, I know that for certain because... Well, that's how Windows Mobile (stupidly) behaves, and Switch shows them as still open.
I'd forgotten about your programs which can intercept keypresses and remap stuff... I must check those out sometime.
Does anyone know what I actually put into the config file, as in, the number or the words from that list or what?
mrsnoopy: I've never tried your game. Quote a few of the settings here and it should be easy to guess. I'd imagine the number though, not the words. Eg escape should always be 27 (or 1B if it's in hex).
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awesome game in its day
used to play it on my 486 with 1 meg vga ram , yea !
Does it still have the taunts when u used to press an F key (in LAN multiplayer) come get some 2: who wants some 3:what are you some bottm beating scum sucking alge eater 4:it hurts to be you 5: your going to pay for that 6: wasted
cant think of any more .
much better in multiplayer , that work on the phone?
Is there a way to disable the shortcut of pressing the middle of the DPAD and the messaging button? When i play emulator games, it always pops up.
Ha, same thing here! At least now I know why it was coming up ...
Yeah, that would be q nice registry fix! Very annoying while playing action games, not so bad on rpg's though....
yea!! i cant play street fighter alpha without concentrating on not hitting the centre button. not easy i tell u..
For my snes i reassigned the buttons to be the pie button one of the buttons and the volume up another button (makes it easy to run and jump in super mario). Also, i reassigned my start to be volume down and it's perfect.
I use smartskey and think its a great idea. Now im looking for a similar app, that will let me use the hardware buttons to open those drop down menus. For instance if you open the pictures application, there is a drop down menu to select a folder, or the storage card. I would like to be able to open this drop down menu with a hardware key instead of pressing on the screen. Does such a program exist?
Such an app is feasible, but for eg, looking at the pictures app, the drop down doesn't have focus when you start the app. So, first you have to give it focus, then click it, so either way you'll have to click the screen. So there isn't a generic solution to this and the next app that comes along because of the way the dropdown is implemented.
However, an easy enough way for this particular app is to use a mortscript.
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You might try fakecursor http://www.geocities.co.jp/SiliconValley-Cupertino/2039/FakeCursorPPC.zip. not exactly what you're looking for but will accomplish the same thing in a way. if you hold the windows key and move the d-pad, a cursor appears onscreen and moves around and you can tap the center button to click just like a stylus tap.
I've been begging for smartskey to make the left soft key work like holding the windows key, but I don't think the author is going to do it, so you'd have to map a different key to activate it or slide the keyboard open a little to reach the actual key. dont map it to the e-mail button though. Holding that and the center button opens the align screen thing.
summary: trying to get the middle d-pad button to actually select the highlighted item in various programs so i don't have to get out the stylus. maybe this can be written into smartskey? (water, you reading this? or anyone else who has an idea...)
I use my wizard in med school and there are a lot of programs i use where i have to scroll through long lists and select an option. Medical dictionary programs, disease clinical consults, etc where i usually type in the first few letters of a drug, condition or whatever and then select the desired one from the list.
I can type the letters with the keyboard, and the program jumps to the correct listing, but when i hit the middle d-pad button, nothing happens. In one program, it skips to the beginning of the list. In another, it starts to do the click-hold thing with the clockwise dots, but doesn't finish.
All i want is some way of forcing the middle d-pad button to actually select what is highlighted, no matter what program i'm in. I know it's not a software thing because these programs have this functionality in treo devices and some others i've seen other students use. doesn't even have to be the middle d-pad button. if easier, could just be any button, just so i don't have to get out the stylus!!!
At the same time, sometimes the d-pad up/down buttons don't start scrolling from the highlighted item, i have to tab or use the left-button to make it active first.
Program list if you want to try out fixes:
Skyscape 5-Minute clinical consult (free trial)
Diagnosaurus (free)
Epocrates Rx (free)
Taber's medical dictionary, by Unbound Medicine(free trial)
Sorry for long post, but help is MUCH appreciated.
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since the Smartskey thread came back up, i decided to try a bump on this one.
is no one else having problems like this? i can't be the only one using apps that use scroll-select functionality that's not working.
thanks, dan
Before you get too excited this isn't a fix to the key mapping issue, it is simply me explaining how I've set up the keys to make games be playable on both emulators. with this set up they do work pretty well though.
FpseCE
First of all your going to want a frameskip of 0. With the snapdragon processor I've found that for the games I've tried at least it just makes them slower to add a frameskip.
Now for the keys. First open up the phone and then push the top left of the screen to go into portrait mode with the keys open. Your going to want to set the controller type to dual shock. Once that's done go into multikey. Push buttons 1-8 in order and unselect any buttons that are already highlighted and in use. then go back to 1 and start setting up your keys. This is how I set up mine.
Mutikey PS Controller Key Expo Key
1 Square Left
2 Circle Right
3 Triangle Up
4 X Down
5 R1 Camera Button
6 L1 Applications Button
7 Start Space Bar
8 Select Backspace
For racing games I switch the X and the R1 button because for some reason every time I pushed another key while holding X it would make me press X again to go again. Switching those two keys fixes that problem.
If you want to try and set up it differently for a certain game here is a list of all the keys that work for the LG Expo. (Left, Right, Up, Down, Space Bar, Enter/Ok (two buttons act as the same entry), Backspace, Camera Button, Application Button, Volume Up, Volume down)
Then go out of mutikey by pushing the back button on the phone. Go back to the controller and push the down arrow to set up the analog stick. Click on the box below the left analog stick until it shows a PSP looking device with the screen lit.
Push back on your phone and go into screen mapping. I prefer the 5 by 3 grid. Tap on the middle left most spot and change the control to left analog stick, an L with a circle around it. Make sure the input type is the arrows pointing both ways meaning it will only stay pressed as long as you press it. Then go to icon and change it to a target looking icon with a circle and a circle around it.
Now you're ready to play. Make the game full screen again and now your screen is the analog stick. Anywhere on the screen will actually activate the analog stick. What I do is put my thumb under the image on the screen so I can check and see which way it is facing without lifting my thumb.
MorphGear
The keys that work with MorphGear are the same as with FpseCE and those are (Left, Right, Up, Down, Space Bar, Enter/Ok (two buttons act as the same entry), Backspace, Camera Button, Application Button, Volume Up, Volume down).
I only play GBA games with my phone, so for other systems you may need to set them up differently, although these should work the same for the GB, GBC, NES, and many SNES games if not some others.
For up, down, left, and right I use those same buttons on the keyboard. I then use the Camera Button, Application Button and OK buttons for A, B, and R in different variations depending on the game I'm playing. Then use Volume Up and Volume Down for Start and Select. I put the Space Bar as the L button, but I don't intend on playing games that use it for anything else than occasional use.
If you were to play games that consistently use the L button you could either use Ok and Space Bar for A and B and then use the Camera Button and Application Button for the R and L buttons. However many games would also require you to press A and B at the same time so you would probably have to switch the A and B and the Start and Select buttons. it would be a bit weird holding the phone to play games with the A and B at the volume keys (most of the reason I avoid games that require use of the L key), but it would be playable.
Well, I hope all this helps.
You had me pretty excited there for a minute. Thanks for the info though.
Thanks for your excellent post! Would it be possible for you to upload your fpseCE configuration file? I am having problems getting fpseCE working, every rom i load just exits the program...
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Thanks for your excellent post! Would it be possible for you to upload your fpseCE configuration file? I am having problems getting fpseCE working, every rom i load just exits the program...
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First of all it might just be the version of fpsece you're using. I had some issues with that myself for a bit. Make sure you're using fpsece 0.10. You can get that here.
http://perso.numericable.fr/schtruck/FpseCE_010.zip
I've also attached my fpse.ini file as well in case it isn't just the version you are using. You are still going to need to edit the keys for your games like I mentioned in my first post to get those properly working.