summary: trying to get the middle d-pad button to actually select the highlighted item in various programs so i don't have to get out the stylus. maybe this can be written into smartskey? (water, you reading this? or anyone else who has an idea...)
I use my wizard in med school and there are a lot of programs i use where i have to scroll through long lists and select an option. Medical dictionary programs, disease clinical consults, etc where i usually type in the first few letters of a drug, condition or whatever and then select the desired one from the list.
I can type the letters with the keyboard, and the program jumps to the correct listing, but when i hit the middle d-pad button, nothing happens. In one program, it skips to the beginning of the list. In another, it starts to do the click-hold thing with the clockwise dots, but doesn't finish.
All i want is some way of forcing the middle d-pad button to actually select what is highlighted, no matter what program i'm in. I know it's not a software thing because these programs have this functionality in treo devices and some others i've seen other students use. doesn't even have to be the middle d-pad button. if easier, could just be any button, just so i don't have to get out the stylus!!!
At the same time, sometimes the d-pad up/down buttons don't start scrolling from the highlighted item, i have to tab or use the left-button to make it active first.
Program list if you want to try out fixes:
Skyscape 5-Minute clinical consult (free trial)
Diagnosaurus (free)
Epocrates Rx (free)
Taber's medical dictionary, by Unbound Medicine(free trial)
Sorry for long post, but help is MUCH appreciated.
bump
since the Smartskey thread came back up, i decided to try a bump on this one.
is no one else having problems like this? i can't be the only one using apps that use scroll-select functionality that's not working.
thanks, dan
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What is the Jog Button program?
It seems to have installed itself on one of my hardware buttons and ocassionally scrolls through several functions when that button is pressed.
I know how to change the button assignment but am wondering if there is something about Jog Button that we will want to use?
JogButton was just a freeware app we liked which allows multiple functions to be controlled by a single button. Feel free to re-assign the apps using JogButton's 'Tools' menu, or to use the button for something else entirely.
X
Thanks for the quick reply.
Do you know where I can find a help file for instructions for Jog Button?
I couldn't find it within the device and in playing with the program it just doesn't come to me.
JogButton Instructions
Fairly simple once you get the hang of it...
1. Press-and-hold the contacts button to activate JogButton. This causes the programs in its list to scroll/cycle
2. Release the contacts button when the icon of a program that you want to activate appears
Setup
1. Press-and-hold the contacts button
2. Click on the tools menu at bottom of screen
3. Select setup from the tools menu
4. The dialog that shows lists the programs and order of cycle.
5. Add/Delete/Edit as desired
6. The Snd check box is a toggle for sound/no-sound (a beep as each program is shown)
7. Duration is the number of milliseconds that an icon is shown
Hopefully that answers you questions
I'm the author...
Tek
Thanks for the reply. You are a genius!
This seems like a very handy app.
Joe_PDA
other buttons
What about using this very simple app on the calender button.
Have your "serious" stuff on one side,
then "toys" on the other..
I presume you have future plans, so give us a clue please
Perhaps even ask for ideas...
Martin
JogButton - Future Plans...
I started coding an alt-tab like feature into JogButton, but was not sure if that would be useful for anyone other than me. As you may know alt-tab in the Windows world scrolls you through the open list of of apps in a Last-in-first-out/Most Recently Used fashion. This would be useful for switching between two apps, the downside would be that you would have to remember the order. I was thinking of putting a toggle on either the menu or in the setup dialog to select this mode.
As for using two buttons, it is possible,but the way PocketPC handles the programs assigned to a button they have to have different names. I would of course have to make a few minor adjustments to allow for this, but it is possible.
I'm up for any suggestions to make this program more useful. Start a list and let's see what we get.
8)
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tekknogenius said:
I'm up for any suggestions to make this program more useful. Start a list and let's see what we get.
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Bug: by timing a quick press just right, I can get it in a mode where it keeps cycling through the programs even though I've released the button already.
I think I was unable to map it to both the hardware buttons using a different list of programs to cycle through for each button. Since a single short press still does the same thing, there's really no reason not to map it to the second button also. (?? Quick hack: map second button to patched Jogbutton2.exe, using different set of registry keys. Better: multiple small stubs which start the real exe telling it which stub was executed. ??)
Maybe map a special action to pressing both buttons at the same time?
Also, something like 'double-press' and 'triple-press' found in some other programs to quickly go to the second and third item (or completely different items) without looking at the phone would be handy. I never really use the rocker-switch, but it could be handy for app starting: just keep the hardware button pressed and hit one of the four directions or the center, giving you 5 new things (per hardware button) to start.
JogButton...
Good suggestions. I can enhance it to use all available buttons. I prefer to use one hand, but others might like to have more options available.
hmm, must be a n00b suggestion, but perhaps it would be possible to use the volume control button? i dont use it for anything anyway.
Only two options... that I know of...
On the XDA/MDA PPCPE there are only two mappable buttons, unlike other PPC that have four or five. It's either the contacts button or the calendar button. Now once an app is mapped to either button and the app is launched, it can control any of the buttons. As a side note, the volume button would be great if it were dual functioning: a press-and-release brings up the volume dialog; a press-and-hold would bring up the record function.
I use smartskey and think its a great idea. Now im looking for a similar app, that will let me use the hardware buttons to open those drop down menus. For instance if you open the pictures application, there is a drop down menu to select a folder, or the storage card. I would like to be able to open this drop down menu with a hardware key instead of pressing on the screen. Does such a program exist?
Such an app is feasible, but for eg, looking at the pictures app, the drop down doesn't have focus when you start the app. So, first you have to give it focus, then click it, so either way you'll have to click the screen. So there isn't a generic solution to this and the next app that comes along because of the way the dropdown is implemented.
However, an easy enough way for this particular app is to use a mortscript.
V
You might try fakecursor http://www.geocities.co.jp/SiliconValley-Cupertino/2039/FakeCursorPPC.zip. not exactly what you're looking for but will accomplish the same thing in a way. if you hold the windows key and move the d-pad, a cursor appears onscreen and moves around and you can tap the center button to click just like a stylus tap.
I've been begging for smartskey to make the left soft key work like holding the windows key, but I don't think the author is going to do it, so you'd have to map a different key to activate it or slide the keyboard open a little to reach the actual key. dont map it to the e-mail button though. Holding that and the center button opens the align screen thing.
Ok.....here is one for the gurus.
A while ago, by accident, I came across what I suspect is a feature in scrolling through Contacts which I could not replicate for the life of me.
Basically, when opening Contacts using the scroll wheel, I somehow managed to get a large icon appearing on the screen & I could then scroll through the individual letters of the alphabet. When I closed Contacts & re-opened it, I couldn't replicate it.
After playing around with it today, I got a step closer but buggered if I can make this feature stick permanently. May be it requires a registry hack.
To see what I mean:
1) Tap Contacts.
2) Scroll up or down until the text field is cleared.
3) Tap Menu -> Options -> Ok.
4) Now scroll up or down.
5) Goto 2
Another user over at Whirlpool Forums found the following method:
"The closest that I can think of is open contacts list, press and hold the down button on the 4 way direction pad, the large alphabet will show up after a second or two. Not very useful to me though..."
What I would like to see is that feature invoked permanently so that I can access Contacts from the Start menu using the scroll wheel & then being able to scroll through the alphabet.
I stumbled across this in the original ROM (shipped with Australian D810) but am currently using 1.23.707.6.
Ideas anyone?
I was wondering if this was possible as well. I hope there is a way to do this because this seems more useful to me when navigating the phone in portrait mode.
maybe its a bug, it happens when you open the contacts app, set focus on the search area, remove and restore focus on the app and press up or down.
this also works:
open contacts app
tap search area
press windows key twice( open and close start menu )
press down or up
I don't think it's a bug!
The way it works on my device is:
Place the focus anywhere in the Contacts list or Select box
Hold the Down or Up direction keys
After 2 screens of scrolling, the Large Letter scroller starts
Release when you reach the letter you want.
It is not a bug. It works on my Wizard, that if I were to press and hold my d-pad (no, I dont' have a wheel) long enough, the big letters will appear. So, in a scroll wheel case, I think probably you will need to scroll it fast enough/long/consistent enough for it to appear?
Apoc said:
set focus on the search area,
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Thanks Apoc - I think you're onto something there regarding focus.
NeilM said:
I don't think it's a bug!
The way it works on my device is:
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Irrespective of how you open Contacts & where the focus is, pressing & holding the up or down key on the direction pad will bring up the alphabet icon after 1 - 2 secs. My aim is to wholly & soley use the scroll wheel to open & search Contacts using the alphabet icon without touching the directional keypad whatsoever - only the scroll wheel.
hanmin said:
It is not a bug. It works on my Wizard, that if I were to press and hold my d-pad (no, I dont' have a wheel)
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May not be a bug on the Wizard, but potentially is on the Trinity/D810 utilizing the scroll wheel.
Apoc's comment re: focus had me perform some more testing & managed to get a step closer. Depending on how you close Contacts will determine whether you can open Contacts & scroll (using the wheel) through the alphabet successfully.
It seems that Contacts needs to be running in the background as a "running program" & is achieved by closing it using the side "OK" button after having put the focus in the search field using the scroll wheel. Will also work tapping the X to close unless you have configured X to actually close running programs.
To start off:-
1) Press side ok button to open Start menu.
2) Scroll to Contacts & depress.
3) Scroll up to set focus in search field.
4) Press side ok to close Contacts (actually closes as a running program).
5) Press side ok to open Start menu.
6) Scroll to Contacts & depress.
7) Now scroll through alphabet - Woohoo!
8) Scroll back to search field to set focus.
9) Goto 4
As long as Contacts runs in the background as a running program I can replicate this repeatedly, but once its closed fully, it seems that focus is returned to the first entry in Contacts rather than the search field hence preventing me from scrolling the alphabet when re-opening.
So, is this a bug or an inelegantly implemented feature?
[Edit] Perhaps a registry hack could set the focus on the search field rather than the first entry in the list. If that is at all possible & works then it definitely becomes a handy feature.
This is not a bug, its a function of windows mobile. It works the same way that an iPod does.
jlagden said:
This is not a bug, its a function of windows mobile. It works the same way that an iPod does.
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Do you not mean that it is a WM function that could be improved? The way I see it, depending on the method used to open Contacts depends whether one sees it as a function or not.
Unfortunately I don't have an iPod to compare with.
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Do you not mean that it is a WM function that could be improved? The way I see it, depending on the method used to open Contacts depends whether one sees it as a function or not.
Unfortunately I don't have an iPod to compare with.
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what more would you want it to do? it saves you time scrolling from a to z.
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what more would you want it to do? it saves you time scrolling from a to z.
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What saves time? Either I'm missing the point or you have mis-interpreted mine.
you can also use your keyboard and select the arrow up / down key for a few seconds to trigger the alphabet search (big letters).
andason said:
you can also use your keyboard and select the arrow up / down key for a few seconds to trigger the alphabet search (big letters).
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Cheers for that, but I've already noted that in my earlier posts.
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What saves time? Either I'm missing the point or you have mis-interpreted mine.
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You are suggesting that it is a function that could be improved, but I don't see what gain you would get. This function is also present in an old WM2003 device that I have, so it clearly isn’t new.
If you want it to initiate instantly when you use the scroll wheel, you are only going to jump to the first contact in each alphabetical section. This is great if you only have one contact per alphabet letter, but if like most people you have multiple contacts in each section you will still have to do an additional scroll to select the contact.
The time saving is due to the jumping quickly to each alphabet section.
hi i remeber there was a free app that allowed to set one hardware button to have 2 functions ie short press and long press, does anyone know where the link/post is for the app? or even a app i can buy?
AeButton Plus
http://ae.inc.ru/aebplus.php
fards said:
AeButton Plus
http://ae.inc.ru/aebplus.php
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cheers mate
Wow - this aebplus is the most useful app I have found for the xperia.. definitely worth the $7 i paid for registration. i hate relying on the touchscreen since one, it is more difficult to find the buttons, and two, the touchscreen doesn't always respond immediately or accurately. navigating using the crappy windows media interface is a thing of the past and works better than inconsistent navigation of the touchflo or spb shell interfaces.
here's how i've set mine up so that i almost never have to use the touchscreen and can do everything in a few button presses
left silver key - press once - opens up messaging to get to e-mails
left silver key - press twice - opens up start menu (can get to the five or so programs stickied there or go to programs and settings with the d-pad)
left silver key - long press - opens up comm manager (not needed much since i can toggle wifi and bluetooth with the action list)
right silver key - press once - MS voice command
right silver key - press twice - open task manager to switch b/w apps
ok button - press twice - opens up action list (rotate screen, toggle bluetooth/wifi, soft reset, turn off
end button - press twice - close active application
Hello,
I also bought this usful application. But I have problems to configure the "panel" button.
I added the panel button and configure it. When I press the button, the configured action is executed, but the panel is also still executed
Any ideas?
stefan
SCtud said:
Wow - this aebplus is the most useful app I have found for the xperia.. definitely worth the $7 i paid for registration. i hate relying on the touchscreen since one, it is more difficult to find the buttons, and two, the touchscreen doesn't always respond immediately or accurately. navigating using the crappy windows media interface is a thing of the past and works better than inconsistent navigation of the touchflo or spb shell interfaces.
here's how i've set mine up so that i almost never have to use the touchscreen and can do everything in a few button presses
left silver key - press once - opens up messaging to get to e-mails
left silver key - press twice - opens up start menu (can get to the five or so programs stickied there or go to programs and settings with the d-pad)
left silver key - long press - opens up comm manager (not needed much since i can toggle wifi and bluetooth with the action list)
right silver key - press once - MS voice command
right silver key - press twice - open task manager to switch b/w apps
ok button - press twice - opens up action list (rotate screen, toggle bluetooth/wifi, soft reset, turn off
end button - press twice - close active application
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i think you may be stuck with the panels button being unmappable right now. let's hope someone can figure it out though.
might be best to speak to the apps developers to get X1 support built in to allow the panel button remapping.
I sent Alexander an email and he answered yesterday. I got the following answer:
My understanding is, that he is not able to solve the problem because the button is processed on driver level. So we have to find a solution to disable this part of the driver which sounds not so easy to handle....
Bad news for me because I didn't use the panels...
stefan
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Hello Stefan,
Thanks, it is always nice to know if you find this utility useful.
As for the “panel” button. The behaviour you describe most likely caused by “panel” button is processed on a driver level. This makes it impossible to disable original functionality by method BPlus uses.
So you could just search for another solution and it probably is in forums already. I have no X1 somewhere around to play with (unfortunately) but could suggest 2 ideas:
- Usually this “driver-level” functionality finally starts an application placed in /Windows/ folder. You could find this application (or link sometimes) and overwrite with “empty” application or link. Sometime it will require .CAB file creation due to ROM file protection.
- or default application to run on “panel” press could be specified in registry. Just search the registry for it and change to do nothing.
There are other approaches for “default” action possible but above are most simple and well-known.
Regards,
Alexander
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fards said:
might be best to speak to the apps developers to get X1 support built in to allow the panel button remapping.
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SCtud said:
right silver key - press once - MS voice command
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I can't see Voice Command showing up as a possible mapping. I had it mapped to the right silver key before I installed AEBPlus but it does not show in the dropdowns of AEBPlus as an app or anything else. Have I missed something?
http://chomikuj.pl/xcoom/HTC+Touch+Diamond/Programy/HButton/HButton_2.3_WM5.CAB
HButton
1 button 5 app
norm2002 said:
I can't see Voice Command showing up as a possible mapping. I had it mapped to the right silver key before I installed AEBPlus but it does not show in the dropdowns of AEBPlus as an app or anything else. Have I missed something?
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you gotta have the setting for single click to run the application. the file you want to run is in \Program Files\MS Voice Command\voicecmd.exe
SCtud said:
Wow - this aebplus is the most useful app I have found for the xperia.. definitely worth the $7 i paid for registration. i hate relying on the touchscreen since one, it is more difficult to find the buttons, and two, the touchscreen doesn't always respond immediately or accurately. navigating using the crappy windows media interface is a thing of the past and works better than inconsistent navigation of the touchflo or spb shell interfaces.
here's how i've set mine up so that i almost never have to use the touchscreen and can do everything in a few button presses
left silver key - press once - opens up messaging to get to e-mails
left silver key - press twice - opens up start menu (can get to the five or so programs stickied there or go to programs and settings with the d-pad)
left silver key - long press - opens up comm manager (not needed much since i can toggle wifi and bluetooth with the action list)
right silver key - press once - MS voice command
right silver key - press twice - open task manager to switch b/w apps
ok button - press twice - opens up action list (rotate screen, toggle bluetooth/wifi, soft reset, turn off
end button - press twice - close active application
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HI,
What is the version of MS voice command are you using?
SCtud said:
Wow - this aebplus is the most useful app I have found for the xperia.. definitely worth the $7 i paid for registration. i hate relying on the touchscreen since one, it is more difficult to find the buttons, and two, the touchscreen doesn't always respond immediately or accurately. navigating using the crappy windows media interface is a thing of the past and works better than inconsistent navigation of the touchflo or spb shell interfaces.
here's how i've set mine up so that i almost never have to use the touchscreen and can do everything in a few button presses
left silver key - press once - opens up messaging to get to e-mails
left silver key - press twice - opens up start menu (can get to the five or so programs stickied there or go to programs and settings with the d-pad)
left silver key - long press - opens up comm manager (not needed much since i can toggle wifi and bluetooth with the action list)
right silver key - press once - MS voice command
right silver key - press twice - open task manager to switch b/w apps
ok button - press twice - opens up action list (rotate screen, toggle bluetooth/wifi, soft reset, turn off
end button - press twice - close active application
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How're you doing with battery life? Some people notice their battery dies quicker, some don't and I unfortunately fall into the former group. It's definitely one of the most useful thing I have ever bought but had to uninstall as my battery was draining fairly quicker than usual, shame though.
You can also try my X1ButtonMapper app that can be found in this forum. It allows for assigning long press actions for softkey and volume rocker. Besides that, it allows for Ok short and long press remapping, mapping missing Fn+Key, Setting Ctrl on keyboard and some more. It is for free and I haven't had and heard about any battery drain issue.
I recommend X1ButtonMapper it extends the keyboard and other buttons. Check it out!
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=464595
I have a MAPL100 and downscrolling on the trackball has stopped working. It works sometimes, but usually it takes me 4 or 5 flicks to get it to scroll once.
That said, is there a way to remap one of the keys in the bottom right (Camera button, mail button, and inner circle key) to perform as a downscroll? Like a virtual directional pad.
Or remap a volume key?
More thoughts: the inner circle key can be customized via settings to launch a program. Is there a program that does nothing except send a scroll down signal?
Likely not. How hard is it to make one? I've hardly programmed for WM but I know .NET well so if you have any pointers towards such a program I would much appreciate them.
Thanks
Bumping this. I can't scroll down OR left!
Hi, why don't you try to flash a 3VOLUTION SERIES ROM, they have a button configuration functionally which gives you the option to configurate for long press and short press several buttons, otherwise you could try by installing SmartToolKit or AEB Plus button configurator, however in my experience these apps don't work well with stock roms as they can't seem to register the key remapping; unless of course the issue was with the sd certificates, now I couldn't tell as I'm already on the latest 3VOLUTION SERIES ROM.