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Hello all,
I'm kinda frustrated with my HD2 device at the moment. It worked perfectly fine until a few days ago.
It has begun to freeze _very_ often. With some ROMS it can't even boot up. It freezes when I have to enter my PIN. On other ROMS it is guranteed to freeze when using ActiveSync/Exchange.
Using HSQL, I've tried L3v5y, XannyTechRom, and MIRI. All with the same result.
Have you got any ideas whats wrong with my device?
Any help will be much appreciated.
I have no idea about whats wrong but this has been a common issue/problem for many members...I don't think I saw this many issues with the HD...I dunno whats wrong with HD2 or the ROMs that it starts freezing for some...maybe the HSPL is buggy? I dunno to be honest.
maybe you should install a stock rom in between or go to MTTY and see if that fixes the issues for you.
Overall tho, its frightening to see how many people have freezing issues with Sense after flashing a couple of custom ROMs...I'm afraid it might eventually happen to everyone and thats why we need to find out what is causing this.
BTW try to format your SD card and then flash a stock ROM without the SD card and see if there is any improvement...my guess is that it will work fine again (for a while at least).
What I have figured out is that with different roms the behaviour is different, depending IN WHICH ORDER you have the links in the autostart folder.
Right after flashing it should be ok and if you install than other programms the startup interfears with the startup of htc-sense
Finaly I have the best result (on my device with the programms I have installed) keeping the htc-Sense startup as the LAST item.
You can change the order with sk-tools (Autotstart items).
You can check this (If you have a chance to access):
- Make a reset and do not enter the pin code of your sim card (on my device this was making a difference, if you do not have a pin code maybe you should take out your sim card that the phone cannot connect)
- Go to the settings and unselect in "Today" "HTC Sense"
Than you should have the normal "speed" of the device and you should be able to start sk tools and change the booting order.
It looks like that - depending on the start up order that applications - processes are waiting for each other and using nearly 100% of cpu power and you have therefore the impression that the device is frozen.
I am sorry I do not know how to change the startup order without sk-Tools
Best regards,
dingolino
tommyjakobsen said:
Hello all,
I'm kinda frustrated with my HD2 device at the moment. It worked perfectly fine until a few days ago.
It has begun to freeze _very_ often. With some ROMS it can't even boot up. It freezes when I have to enter my PIN. On other ROMS it is guranteed to freeze when using ActiveSync/Exchange.
Using HSQL, I've tried L3v5y, XannyTechRom, and MIRI. All with the same result.
Have you got any ideas whats wrong with my device?
Any help will be much appreciated.
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tommyjakobsen said:
Hello all,
I'm kinda frustrated with my HD2 device at the moment. It worked perfectly fine until a few days ago.
It has begun to freeze _very_ often. With some ROMS it can't even boot up. It freezes when I have to enter my PIN. On other ROMS it is guranteed to freeze when using ActiveSync/Exchange.
Using HSQL, I've tried L3v5y, XannyTechRom, and MIRI. All with the same result.
Have you got any ideas whats wrong with my device?
Any help will be much appreciated.
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try the strenas rom (arthemis V2). It has solved my pb
[email protected] said:
I have no idea about whats wrong but this has been a common issue/problem for many members...I don't think I saw this many issues with the HD...I dunno whats wrong with HD2 or the ROMs that it starts freezing for some...maybe the HSPL is buggy? I dunno to be honest.
maybe you should install a stock rom in between or go to MTTY and see if that fixes the issues for you.
Overall tho, its frightening to see how many people have freezing issues with Sense after flashing a couple of custom ROMs...I'm afraid it might eventually happen to everyone and thats why we need to find out what is causing this.
BTW try to format your SD card and then flash a stock ROM without the SD card and see if there is any improvement...my guess is that it will work fine again (for a while at least).
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Thanks for your reply.
I will try what you suggest later today and then write back the results here. It would be very nice if we could solve this issue.
I don't really get that MTTY thing. What exactly does it do?
willbread said:
try the strenas rom (arthemis V2). It has solved my pb
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Can you only use that ROM? Have you tried flashing another one after strenas?
I would really like to use l3v5y's ROM.
dingolino said:
What I have figured out is that with different roms the behaviour is different, depending IN WHICH ORDER you have the links in the autostart folder.
Right after flashing it should be ok and if you install than other programms the startup interfears with the startup of htc-sense
Finaly I have the best result (on my device with the programms I have installed) keeping the htc-Sense startup as the LAST item.
You can change the order with sk-tools (Autotstart items).
You can check this (If you have a chance to access):
- Make a reset and do not enter the pin code of your sim card (on my device this was making a difference, if you do not have a pin code maybe you should take out your sim card that the phone cannot connect)
- Go to the settings and unselect in "Today" "HTC Sense"
Than you should have the normal "speed" of the device and you should be able to start sk tools and change the booting order.
It looks like that - depending on the start up order that applications - processes are waiting for each other and using nearly 100% of cpu power and you have therefore the impression that the device is frozen.
I am sorry I do not know how to change the startup order without sk-Tools
Best regards,
dingolino
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Very interesting dingolino!
Later today I will give that a shot aswell on l3v5y's ROM. Will report back.
tommyjakobsen said:
Thanks for your reply.
I will try what you suggest later today and then write back the results here. It would be very nice if we could solve this issue.
I don't really get that MTTY thing. What exactly does it do?
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When you flash lots of cooked roms, they get "bloated" and the devices started hard-resetting for no reason. this is because of files from old roms being left when the new rom is flashed.
MTTY allows you to enter the device on bootloader and use service commands to format the file system on the device so you can remove all rom files before flashing a new rom!!
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basicly it will format your system and make sure you don't have any files from older roms left on the system which might cause this issues.
tommyjakobsen said:
Can you only use that ROM? Have you tried flashing another one after strenas?
I would really like to use l3v5y's ROM.
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i tried too l3v5y's ROM and it didn't work. But maybe, your pb is not exactly same as mine.
Do you you a 16 GB card ? for me, it's certainly cause of pb because i can use every rom without sd card
Try to ask more to sternas but i noticed he prefer keep his cook secrets
Try to install "official" 1.61, make HR after boot. After next reboot connect with PC and flash with any cooked ROM. I had the same problems like you and this helped me...
Petulinek said:
Try to install "official" 1.61, make HR after boot. After next reboot connect with PC and flash with any cooked ROM. I had the same problems like you and this helped me...
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and for me, this didn't help me
willbread said:
i tried too l3v5y's ROM and it didn't work. But maybe, your pb is not exactly same as mine.
Do you you a 16 GB card ? for me, it's certainly cause of pb because i can use every rom without sd card
Try to ask more to sternas but i noticed he prefer keep his cook secrets
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Try deleting the folder "\Application Folder" on the storage card using your PC/Laptop, and reinsert the SD card into HD2. I assume you are using ROM cooked with Manila version that has the document tab.
Let us know if this works for you. It took me a long time and many flashes to figure this out. I suppose you have configured your HD2 for emails or MS Exchange pushmail?
Edit : If you already experience the slowdown caused by inserting the SD Card, MAKE SURE you reboot your HD2 before re-inserting the SD card.
I had this "freezing during startup" with a number of roms (always after I installed my software) and since that I am always "tweaking" it by the startup order as I described it and was able to solve it!
I do not think that it is hardware related in the amount of cases which are reported. And I am also not a strong believer of this "flashing" and mtty discussion (it could be a solution is some cases but I do not think in this relatively larger number of cases which are reported).
For most of the rom cookers it is not the 1st rom cooking they are doing and the HD2 is not the 1st HD2 device for HTC as well. This is the reason why I do not think that there is a principle rom problem nor a principle hardware problem
Manila Sense is a complex pcs of software and the startup is therefore more complex.
Depending on the tweaks the rom cookers are doing on the XIP and other WM internals there could be a timing interfearance during booting and this is creating the trouble for Manila Sense startup (network, phone, etc.).
Reminds me to the "good old days" with ATART-ST where you had dedicated tools to rearrange the startup seaquenze of the Accessories
At least i think it is worth trying it, you cannot loose anything.
But I played not only with the finaly boot order of htc-Sense (the last one) but also I put other elements in a different order.
Sometimes it was helping to install Panolauncher and put it before HTC Sense startup - I had the impression that just having another application before HTCsense made an improvement to "give HTCSense" more time.
Does not sound like science but a little bit like Voodoo ...
My Autostart folder (only the applications)
1. poutlook.lnk
2. BTTrayCE.lnk
3. De|WMPTempFolder.lnk
4. PKG.lnk
5. Lotus Traveler.lnk (installed by me)
6. LotusPRUploader.lnk (installed by me)
7. Panolauncher.lnk (installed by me)
8. OM10QS.lnk (installed by me - Opera 10 beta)
9. HTCStartUp.lnk
Good luck
dingolino
tommyjakobsen said:
Very interesting dingolino!
Later today I will give that a shot aswell on l3v5y's ROM. Will report back.
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gohyc said:
Try deleting the folder "\Application Folder" on the storage card using your PC/Laptop, and reinsert the SD card into HD2. I assume you are using ROM cooked with Manila version that has the document tab.
Let us know if this works for you. It took me a long time and many flashes to figure this out.
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i haven't the folder "\Application Folder" on my card. Maybe, this is why this rom works well
I haven't verifyed before so i can't tell you if i had it before
Hi,
could you try to flash ROM that have manila 1921 (manila without document tab),
I facing so many problem when I install ROM with manila 1922 (manila got document tab)
Now has been 4 day, without any problem flash ROM with manila 1921...
give a try...
mtty may help u out
dingolino said:
What I have figured out is that with different roms the behaviour is different, depending IN WHICH ORDER you have the links in the autostart folder.
Right after flashing it should be ok and if you install than other programms the startup interfears with the startup of htc-sense
Finaly I have the best result (on my device with the programms I have installed) keeping the htc-Sense startup as the LAST item.
You can change the order with sk-tools (Autotstart items).
You can check this (If you have a chance to access):
dingolino
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so i just got the last version of sktools.....could anybody please explain how I can change the startup order? sktools has allot of tools and I just cant figure out how its done!
thanx!
Hi,
sounds to me like you have flashed so many times you HD2 has become "Bloated"
this is where for eg, Rom X is 110Mb, and then you Flash Rom Y which is only 100Mb.
When you do the flash there is 10Mb of residual files left from the previous rom., when this happens often you get strange things happening like you describe and worse, your device can start hard resetting for no reason!!
Go to this thread (swap the ** for tt ) h**p://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=616422 (I cant post links yet!!) and it will fix your issue. (The thread has been shut as there has been a big argument over it, something to do with a disagreement over drivers!! - how gay!)
I can honestly say, although i have only joined recently, i have been a user of this method for about 6 years, I personally know the Guy who opened the thread and i would stand buy him 100%.
Although the thread is closed, i will help with queries via PM if you like!
SS
gohyc said:
Try deleting the folder "\Application Folder" on the storage card using your PC/Laptop, and reinsert the SD card into HD2. I assume you are using ROM cooked with Manila version that has the document tab.
Let us know if this works for you. It took me a long time and many flashes to figure this out. I suppose you have configured your HD2 for emails or MS Exchange pushmail?
Edit : If you already experience the slowdown caused by inserting the SD Card, MAKE SURE you reboot your HD2 before re-inserting the SD card.
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I tried deleting the \Application Folder folder and reset the phone.
Of course this equaled a hard reset as all system data stored was in \Application Folder.
So I removed my storage card and did a hard reset so that the system data will not be stored in the storage card.
Hopefully this will be make the device more stable as such.
use the mtty to format ur device first, then flash the rom u want to flash.
I have encountered the same issues just like u, after use the MTTY, so far so good.
the post is kind of complex, but it is worth to have a try.
OK, here's the deal...
I've successfully flashed my Vodafone HD2 with HSPL. I went to the bootloader screen and it shows all the right messages. However, since installing HSPL, I just cannot flash any .nbh files (radios or roms)
Trawling through the interweb and XDA-Developers, this seems to be a relatively common problem. Whether it can be solved or not is debatable, as I see people posting about it but no one seems to have a definitive solution....or if they do, they're keeping it to themselves.
I don't profess to be a hacking guru, but I'm not stupid either, having played around with ROM upgrades on phones and PDAs for at least 6 years. but this file read error is driving me mad.
Come guys and girls, someone out there must have a solution to this. Please share the joy!!
BTW, I'm on Windows Vista...the machine is malware/spyware/virus free (as far as I can tell). I do have access to an XP install, but have my doubts as to whether trying to flash my HD2 from that machine will make any difference.
Someone PLEASE give me a solution before I tear out what little hair I have left!!
Cheers people,
Rich
***BUMP***
Anybody???
have u formatted your sd card to fat32 and tried doing it that way?
format sd card
phillyctr said:
have u formatted your sd card to fat32 and tried doing it that way?
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Not yet, though I'm fairly certain that way will work, but I just wanted to be able to do the customruu.exe way...I hate being defeated by something that evrybody else seems to be doing with ease...especially when there seems to be no logical reason for it not to work.
Plus, the customruu.exe method is less hassle (if I can get it to work).
Just a thought...if the phone is locked to Vodafone would that make a difference? My initial thought is that it shouldn't make a difference since I manage to flash the HSPL without any hassles.
Was really looking forward to owning the HD2 for the WM6.5 hackability, but this has really dampened my spirits.
stupid question, i know, but....Have you tried running it as administrator?
im on voda aswell,but i only flash via my sd card and works fine.try it that way.
samsamuel said:
stupid question, i know, but....Have you tried running it as administrator?
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Yeah, it's the only way it will actually run. Just seems bizarre that some people can flash using customruu and others can't.
Looks like I'll have to try an SD card flash, but it'll have to wait til I have more time. Probably tomorrow morning.
Only really wanted to update the radio as the Voda reception from my home address is next to useless!!
So does anyone know if it's safe to just falsh the radio version via SD? Will this just update the radio without touching anything else?
flashing radio via SD card?
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babblerx said:
Yeah, it's the only way it will actually run. Just seems bizarre that some people can flash using customruu and others can't.
Looks like I'll have to try an SD card flash, but it'll have to wait til I have more time. Probably tomorrow morning.
Only really wanted to update the radio as the Voda reception from my home address is next to useless!!
So does anyone know if it's safe to just falsh the radio version via SD? Will this just update the radio without touching anything else?
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Hi Download again the Custom RUU and plug usb into rear of the motherboard or change a cable then try because as you say Read error.
Try hard reset first then try again.
Where it says read error? on the pc / device
or put your device into bootloader then start the Custom ruu
Good luck
The time bomb for WM 6.5
Is there a patch we can run to solve this issue or do we need to start looking at new roms?
If a new rom is the answer:
1. can somehow extract my existing rom
2. replace the core windows version with a newer one
3. update to the latest drivers (since i'm there)
3. recook and reflash
The existing rom "Rafyvitto BlacK NeO_v.3.0_3.003" is working great for me and I would like to just mod it to newer WM version and newer drivers, but the kitchen for this rom is not available...
Thanks,
The Analyst
Unfortunately it is not possible, had his rom too, and sadly i had to switch. U'll have to change the rom, as i think that shell32.exe has to be patched during rom cooking in order to deactivate the timebomb.
It is a pity indeed that such a great rom gets lost due to a timebomb
I've read that some people have patched the shell32.exe with a hex editor while the phone is on!!!
But I haven't been successful in doing this...
BTW the timebomb is real (it is not just a warning). I've rolled the date passed May 1st and I had to hard reset to get the phone to work.
stress_analyst said:
I've read that some people have patched the shell32.exe with a hex editor while the phone is on!!!
But I haven't been successful in doing this...
BTW the timebomb is real (it is not just a warning). I've rolled the date passed May 1st and I had to hard reset to get the phone to work.
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I did as you, rolled the date to 1st May and then I have to flash rom again
which roms dont have the timebomb?
artos roms dont seem to have them
My v3.0 rom shoulndt have the time bomb, but its seems like it has it crap =\, hmmm i have to do something about it.
Heres patched shell32.exe for my 23519 builds to remove the timebomb, be aware this might not work and you might have to hard reset your device, place it in your s200 windows directory and restart, let me know if it works or not.
rafyvitto said:
My v3.0 rom shoulndt have the time bomb, but its seems like it has it crap =\, hmmm i have to do something about it.
Heres patched shell32.exe for my 23519 builds to remove the timebomb, be aware this might not work and you might have to hard reset your device, place it in your s200 windows directory and restart, let me know if it works or not.
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Thank you for the try Rafyvitto but it will not boot to windows after pasting the shell32.exe to the windows directory...(will not pass "starting windows")
stress_analyst said:
Thank you for the try Rafyvitto but it will not boot to windows after pasting the shell32.exe to the windows directory...(will not pass "starting windows")
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I was afraid of that.....hmmmm il see what i can do.
i downloaded radio 2.12.50 and downloaded hspl3 and miri_steve0007_elegancia_v3.0_final rom. my rom is 2.13.531.1. i put the android file in my sd card and when i click on CLRCAD or haret it say the file CLRCAD cannot be opened.Either it is not signed with a trusted certificate, or one of its conponents cannot be found. if the problem persists, try reinstalling or restoring this file. i reinstall it 5 time and still having the same problem i dont know what i did wrong follow all the instruction and have no luck if someone can help me out please
You could try flashing a different ROM, one which is known to be compatible with Android. Try this one http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=734238
If you don't like it, or it still doesn't work, you can flash back.
nobnut said:
You could try flashing a different ROM, one which is known to be compatible with Android. Try this one http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=734238
If you don't like it, or it still doesn't work, you can flash back.
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Elegancia is known to work with Android/Linux
To the OP: You should provide more information as to what build you're trying to use, where exactly you put what files (in what folders etc.)...
tsrzealot said:
Elegancia is known to work with Android/Linux
To the OP: You should provide more information as to what build you're trying to use, where exactly you put what files (in what folders etc.)...
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You are correct, it does... but I suffered from the robot voice and other gremlins when I used it
nobnut said:
You are correct, it does... but I suffered from the robot voice and other gremlins when I used it
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That's strange, because I don't... maybe a combination of radio/rom thing...
OP: Just to make sure, you said you "downloaded" HSPL, the radio and the rom, but did you also flash them onto your device? Just checking Maybe your download was corrupted and you simply need to download the build again??
yea i flash the radio and the rom i reinstall it again and it said that i finish the download to my phone but still having the same problem i also try to download shubcraft and stilll having the same issue. Is there any way i could deleted all the files and then reinstall it again
for the rom and the radio i plug my usb to my comp and click on the file once it open i click next next and it download it to my phone. for the android file i put it on my sd card
xjohn_nguyenx said:
for the rom and the radio i plug my usb to my comp and click on the file once it open i click next next and it download it to my phone. for the android file i put it on my sd card
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I don't know if this is a problem of language You have to put the entire "Android" folder on your sd card (which you should format before, just to make sure). There is no single file for Android, but I'm guessing you simply used the wrong term here.
For example, for shubcraft, place the folder named "Android" in the "root" (I don't know if that term fits here) of your sd card and then run clrcad and haret...
If you already did all of that, you might want to try installing "sdkcert" (just search for it in the forum or on google), that might take care of the certificate not being signed/trusted... even though I don't get how that can be a problem if you're already using elegancia rom
yea i zip the file and i drag the whole file into my sd card and its still having the same problem
does anny one knows where I can dl a program that can open nbh files?
Ferdi_H said:
does anny one knows where I can dl a program that can open nbh files?
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What are you trying to do? Unless you are cooking ROMs, you have no reason to open one. Even then, you wouldn't be able to use the file without the original kitchen.
nbh files contain the ROMs that are flashed to your device. It is flashed by way of a CustomRUU.exe or via the bootloader from your SD card. I suggest reading up on flashing HERE before going any further.
Is this what you're looking for?
No, based on his other posts, this is what he is looking for:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=550540
I think he was trying to do what I was trying to do. I wanted to easily edit a couple different pieces of the NRG ROM. There were a couple things I was looking to edit, but I think it was actually repoint (or airextreme or someone, anyways its not important) who told me I would have to get what kitchen that NRG himself used and try to recompose his ROM from what he told me.
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I think he was trying to do what I was trying to do. I wanted to easily edit a couple different pieces of the NRG ROM. There were a couple things I was looking to edit, but I think it was actually repoint (or airextreme or someone, anyways its not important) who told me I would have to get what kitchen that NRG himself used and try to recompose his ROM from what he told me.
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You can't edit a custom ROM without access to the original kitchen. Most chefs aren't going to give you access to that, so you can either build your own or see if they would make a special ROM just for you. They might do it for a small donation.
The OPs posts AFTER this thread are ones asking how to HardSPL. He is most almost certainly just learning how to flash a ROM, and didn't know what to do with the files; and not trying to cook a ROM.
ondo hardSPL
HardSPL! ok now i net to try undo HardSPL! can anyone help? please!!!!????