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hi guys
my pro comes during next week and i wanted to check what size memory cards it'll take. If it supports Micro SD will it support Micro SD HC cards? What's the maximum size it'll support please?
thanks.

http://www.htc.com/europe/product.aspx?id=49936
see the photo number 6

so for £17 an 8GB SDHC card from play.com is my best option really? Any other suggestions?

That's even cheaper than Ebay!
I bought a 2GB Sandisk one from Play for my Artemis and it buggered my phone! Play were a bit arsey about replacing it, but did eventually after a load of emails and phone calls

8 gig rox!
I have 2 8 gigs that I switch back and forth...it was kind of funny to use my phone as an external hard drive via usb! The phone also has disk mode, faster communication to the sd card...
Its almost sick as we keep getting more and more memory! pretty soon we will get rid of moving part drives and everything will be memory!

I've bought an 8gb sandisk class 6 with p&p for around £27 off ebay.
Don't forget that there isn't just size, but speed as well.
As far as I know, the current 16gb cards are class 2, even though some places are stating 4. (I've not come across anybody that can prove they have a class 4) And sandisk isn't even showing details themselves yet.

16 gb microsd class 4 does not exist.
there is only class 2 for this size, the rest are fake!
class 2 should be enough for regular user though...but then again, who on this forum is a regular user? )

I have a Sandisk 16GB Class 2 card - works perfectly.

Does anyone know what Device Class the Touch Pro is?
There is no need for a class 4 card if the unit is a class 2...
Is there any good benchmarking programs for reading SDcards on WM6.1?

16gb, saying class 4 £46.95 http://www.memorybits.co.uk/shop/mi...23-in-1-multi-card-sdsdq016ge11mplus23in/9078
have ordered from them before no issues

No one is selling Class 4 currently, their information is incorrect - many others are similarly stating Class 4 but shipping Class 2. Class 4 is not yet available.

zeb crs said:
Is there any good benchmarking programs for reading SDcards on WM6.1?
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I use Pocket Mechanic on my Tytn II (still running WM6.0); it has a pretty good benchmark suite. I ran it on a SanDisk 16 GB Class 2 I picked up the other day and got write speeds of 1.3 MB/sec. The same test on a SanDisk 8GB Class 4 gives a write speed of 2.05 MB/sec. Those numbers suggest to me that the device is the main impediment to performance -- I should have seen at least 2MB/sec and 4MB/sec respectively (that's what Class 2 & Class 4 mean).

And that's a Tytn II but I'm very interested in what difference it makes in a Touch Pro..
my choice is between the:
Sandisk Mobile Ultra microSDHC 8GB (Think it's class 6) (€38,50)
and the
Sandsik microSDHC 8GB (Which is class 2) (€24,95)
And I really don't know which one to go for.. I somewhere found a Nokia N95-3 review which told that the difference was noticable between the 2 cards.. but I don't know if it's true for the TP..
Any help on this matter?

You guys really need to steer clear of Ebay for memory, to many fakes of rubbish quality, I have used both of these places before and they are excellent and reliable, I just bought a genuine Class 6 sandisk 8GB micro SD plus a keychain USB adapter for £26.50 delivered, from the first place
www.picstop.co.uk
www.7dayshop.co.uk

The pro is class 4 or better i tried wth c1 c2 and c4 cards c4 works the fastest almost 16mb transfer speed via the phone that is not bad.... a full os flash from c4 card take just 5 min nbh image size 154mb so talking about a heavy-weight os. but the same progress with my 4 gb c2 card take over 10min ???? funny

The SanDisk 8GB Mobile Ultra class 6 is superb!!
I've bought this Sandisk micro SDHC 8GB class 6 at 'The phone House' for about 40 euro. The class 4 device was 10 euro less expensive. Yes expensive but worth every cent. I've used several brands the past 6 years and I'll stick to SanDisk: reliable no issues at all and fast!
At this moment 16GB is available but only class 2. Don't buy them because you don't want a bottle neck in your overall system performance!!

Woot has 4gb MicroSD cards for $11 shipped. I just snagged two, but hurry the deal is only good for one day.

i actually emailed HTC about this and got the following email as a reply
Code:
Good Evening,
Thank you for your enquiry about the HTC Touch Pro.
The Touch Pro has been tested with a 16gb MicroSDHC card and it works fine, as for 32gb and 64gb I cannot be sure, as they have not been released yet. More information bout the compatibility of these cards will be available after they have been released and tested.
Please do not reply to this email as this email address is not monitored for replies.
Best regards,
Thomas Fisher
HTC Europe
ive also purchased this
http://www.mymemory.co.uk/Micro-SDHC/Kingston/Kingston-8GB-Micro-SD-(SDHC)-Card---Class-4
from here
http://www.mymemory.co.uk/Micro-SDHC

What is the best SD card for the Hero?

Heya,
I'm sure this topic has been discussed but I can't seem to find a clear answer. It's obvious that the HTC Hero is somewhat temperamental with certain makes and classes of Micro SD, or the assumed Class 6 isn't always as fast as people hope.
In my case the 2gb stock card is just going to be too small so I'm keen to purchase the biggest card the phone will support (which is 16gb?) or 8gb. Is there a card in particular which stands out as being the best (in terms of speed) for the HTC Hero at these sizes?
Thanks

i think the biggest possible micro sdhc card is 32gb, but i´m not sure and it was not worth to me so i bought a 16gb and it works perfect

Are there 32GB micro sd cards available?

theodore80 said:
Are there 32GB micro sd cards available?
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find Sandisk 32GB micro SDHC is already available for pre-order, but no specific date of release.
I just bought a Sandisk 16GB micro sd (class 2), appears faster then the 2gb stock card.
Try to search some technical reviews of different SD card with statistics. Much better than relying on "CLASS".

Class is important
Hi, I would say that in a price/performance view you should go for a 8GB class 6 card right now. The class says how fast the card can transfer data. Class 2 does 2MB/s. Class 6 does 6MB/s.
32GB is the limit of the SDHC format. I have 8GB now and I guess I upgrade to 32GB later when prices get better.

for sandisk, class 2 = class 4, class 4 = class 6.
as i know, some class 2 is actually much faster than the standard minimum speed.

I have an 8 gig in my phone but its having trouble rescanning the card i have like 4 gigs of music on it and I think thats too much for the phone to scan, that would be my only thing to maybe consider.
Ps if anyone has a solution for my problem that would be great haha

Unless you despareately need to store A LOT of data on your phone get the fastest card rather than the largest.
8GB SanDisk Class 6 card is about £17.
16GB SanDisk Class 6 is nearly £50.
Prices will drop rapidly so for now I'd go for 8GB at 6MBPS over 16GB or 32GB at a lower speed.

Hi - Following on from this, has anyone used a 32GB card and proven it works. I'd hate to get one and find out that it's incompatible with the G2 Hero.

32GB microSD cards are out?!

ozym said:
Unless you despareately need to store A LOT of data on your phone get the fastest card rather than the largest.
8GB SanDisk Class 6 card is about £17.
16GB SanDisk Class 6 is nearly £50.
Prices will drop rapidly so for now I'd go for 8GB at 6MBPS over 16GB or 32GB at a lower speed.
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The 16GB Class 6 you list doesn't seem like that much of a stretch to me, it is a wee bit over twice the price, but not ridciulously so (i.e 3x the price). It is the best MicroSDHC card that money can buy, and the transcend one I've got is nice and fast (pretty sure it was less than £50 too, now that I think about it).
cdg1 said:
Hi - Following on from this, has anyone used a 32GB card and proven it works. I'd hate to get one and find out that it's incompatible with the G2 Hero.
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32GB microSD cards are out?!
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Nup, no 32GB MicroSDHC cards as yet fellas, all the sites I've seen, list the Sandisk one for Pre-Order, but its been like that for 6 months, so maybe they're planning for a 2010 release?

Err is that spam?

any offical word or tests showing that a class 6 will work to its full speed... rumor I have heard is the hardware in the hero (us version) will utilize up to class 2 speeds.
(Not to say a class 6 wont work. just that it will only be reading and writing at class 2 speeds) Can anybody confirm?

I can maintain 6-7MB/s write speak to my 16GB Class 6 which is Class 6 speeds. Not as fast as I'd like (SD speeds), but worlds better than the Nokia N95 8GB I had before which was limited to 800-1000KB/s (only USB 2.0 full speed as opposed to hi speed).

qwiksand, is that from your hero or from a card reader?
I am trying to find the source now but cant rummage up my history; i swear i read an email from HTC saying the card reader in the Hero was a class 2 reader, thus nullifying any performance increase from a class 4 or 6 card.

hmm, you're making me doubt myself now!
I'll do a speed test today both in the phone, and out.

izanagi said:
I am trying to find the source now but cant rummage up my history; i swear i read an email from HTC saying the card reader in the Hero was a class 2 reader, thus nullifying any performance increase from a class 4 or 6 card.
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Likewise,I'm sure I read an official source saying that it would only make use of 16GB irrespective of the size of the card. Sounds more dubious but I'm not going to risk it with my own money!!

Any updates? Want to get one on black friday

As what i know G3 Hero only support up to 16gb sd/sdhc card.
As the class on those card are for writing speed & reading speed is all the same.
edit: i have found some news frm somewhere...
Good Morning Frank,
Thank you for taking the time to contact HTC America Technical Support via E-Mail with your inquiry about what class of SD card to use in your Sprint HTC Hero. My name is A.J. and I will be happy to assist you today.
If you are looking to purchase an SD card that the device will read at its full native speed you will need to purchase a class 2. The device will read a class 4 but not at its native speeds.
Frank, if you have any future questions about your device please feel free to visit HTC - Touch Phone, PDA Phone, Smartphone, Mobile Computer and send us another e-mail. You may also enjoy HTC Smartphone Wiki - HTC, which has a plethora of information on HTC devices, including the Sprint HTC Hero! I would also like to invite you to participate in a customer satisfaction survey located at HTC Online Survey I hope you have a great day!
HTC America Technical Support
A.J.

According to HTC's website the Hero can use SD 2.0, SD 2.0 is another way of saying SDHC, just like devices that are compatible with standard SD, the device is expandable to the limit of the format. Therefore, the Hero CAN do 32GB because it is SDHC compatible. Only problem is the 32GB Cards have yet to be mass produced.

16gb SDHC card?

What is the fastest 16gb card I can get?
I want something that'll play movies off the card without any stuttering.
Any suggestions?

One suggestion is, read the rules and post your questions is the relative sections, also there's even a sticky at the top of this section that reads, "Don't Start a New Thread - Leo Questions & Answers"

p3eps said:
What is the fastest 16gb card I can get?
I want something that'll play movies off the card without any stuttering.
Any suggestions?
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My 16GB Nokia SDHC is playing videos with bitrate 2000+ & resolution 720x380 without any stutter.
I have almost 6GB full of videos only in my card.
I tried for a higher class card in 16GB, but not available in my place.

i am using kingston class 2 converted 1080p movies to 480X800 at highest qulity. no stutter whatsoever

jhexx said:
i am using kingston class 2 converted 1080p movies to 480X800 at highest qulity. no stutter whatsoever
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He was specifically asking for the fastest card. Your card is the slowest. Class 2 is the slowest class you can get. It's not even sold anymore here in Japan. For the HD 2 I would recommend at least a class 6 card (6 MB/sec reading. The better ones are now rated as class 10.

SanDisk 16gb Class 2 exceed the speeds of asian branded class 6 cards such as Transcend and Adata etc.
I would get a Sandisk Class 2 16gb card over other higher class cards.
Only better one at the moment is 16gb Class 4 SanDisk which exceeds class 10 speeds.

chainbolt said:
He was specifically asking for the fastest card. Your card is the slowest. Class 2 is the slowest class you can get. It's not even sold anymore here in Japan. For the HD 2 I would recommend at least a class 6 card (6 MB/sec reading. The better ones are now rated as class 10.
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Just because it is Class 2 does not mean it is the slowest!
The Sandisk Class 2 performs well above the majority of class 2 cards and even some class 6-8 cards.
The 2 only means it guarantees that speed.
I've seen some class 6 cards just reach 7mb/s, so this class 2 would run the spots off it. I've got a Sandisk 16gb Ultra Class 4, its quite fast but you need to consider the fact that the phone won't use it to its max potential, only 8mb/s limit i think

From what i hear the class definition only is a guarantee for write speeds.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Secure_Digital#SD_Speed_Class_Ratings
"SD Cards and SDHC Cards have Speed Class Ratings defined by the SD Association. The SD Speed Class Ratings specify the following minimum write speeds based on "the best fragmented state where no memory unit is occupied":[8]"

I've got a Sandisk micro sdhc 16 Gg. It's only a class 2, but i should say that it is pretty fast and I never had any trouble with it. Fast and safe.
I find it better than the Transcend or Kingston SD I tried.
I hope we can soon have a micro sdhc 32 Gb

Flashmore said:
One suggestion is, read the rules and post your questions is the relative sections, also there's even a sticky at the top of this section that reads, "Don't Start a New Thread - Leo Questions & Answers"
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Thanks for the very helpful reply.
Did you get all of your 21 posts by helping people out with this sort of useful info?
Thanks to the folk who have actually posted useful stuff though...
I see the Sandisk Class 2 16gb one on Amazon and other sites for about £30 - which seems pretty good. I found another thread comparing speeds of cards, and it seems the HD2 can't write or read any faster than the equivalent of a class 2 anyway.
I think the Sandisk Class 2 will do for the moment - the 32gb ones are due out anytime soon... so theres no point in lashing out £60 for a high spec 16gb when a 32gb will be round the corner.

p3eps said:
Thanks for the very helpful reply.
Did you get all of your 21 posts by helping people out with this sort of useful info?
Thanks to the folk who have actually posted useful stuff though...
I see the Sandisk Class 2 16gb one on Amazon and other sites for about £30 - which seems pretty good. I found another thread comparing speeds of cards, and it seems the HD2 can't write or read any faster than the equivalent of a class 2 anyway.
I think the Sandisk Class 2 will do for the moment - the 32gb ones are due out anytime soon... so theres no point in lashing out £60 for a high spec 16gb when a 32gb will be round the corner.
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I will be selling my 16gb when a 32 comes out, got it quite cheap so I can't imagine I will really lose that much money on re-sell as there are not that many 16gb class 4's about.

16GB Going to buy with my christmas paycheck. Anyone know of any good deals for SD(HC) cards in the UK?

Blacked Out said:
16GB Going to buy with my christmas paycheck. Anyone know of any good deals for SD(HC) cards in the UK?
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I got mine from Amazon (marketplace) for £32

i got 8GB Class 4 from SanDisk...
i wish i could find 16GB Class 6

I have an A-Data 16gb class 6 works great in my HD2 !

-NRG- said:
I have an A-Data 16gb class 6 works great in my HD2 !
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ouch..£52.99 is a bit steep to justify when a similar spec standard sd is less than half that price..I can't help wondering whether there's any real benefit from a card with this performance level that's detectable in normal use,after all,the ammount of data that will be required at any point in time surely wont exceed the displays capacity even while using a lower spec card? Yes the snapdragon can process huge ammounts of data quickly but it's still going to be limited ,by the ammount of it,it can show or am I talking round hairy things? I've seen a similar debate on a forum dedicated to sat navs but never found, myself, any difference between using cl2 or cl6 cards as far as speed in the processing and displaying of information upon a screen goes...anyone care to enlighten us?

I have been using Sandisk Class 2 16GB cards for a while now, 3 pcs on separate devices and I can say it is fast and safe. Fully compatible with the HD2. I also have a 16GB Kingston Class 6 and it is about 20% of the Sandisk speed when writing. Way too slow even though it's rated as Class 6. Go figure.

[Q] SD or SDHC

Looking to get myself a 32gb card.
Just wondering if the play uses SD or SDHC memory cards, or ok with either?

it uses microsd and microsdhc
regular sd card wont do

Yeah, obviously I know it's micro.
Just wasn't sure about the sdhc.
Cheers

It's ok with both sd and sdhc but I think it's not compatible with sdxc (if you'd ever like to get to 2TB maybe it can come in an update, My htc wizard got sdhc support with an unofficial driver update).

A 32 gig card will work just fine with the Play.

Bitter Crimson said:
A 32 gig card will work just fine with the Play.
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I heard there's problems with class 10 32 gig micros on android phones. Is this true?

i'm curious about this, some applications wont work with a class 2 speed sd.
sd or sdhc would do. you should be more worried about the speed. as for now you should think of either getting a class 6 16gb or class 4 32gb (if you could find one).

bewrong666 said:
i'm curious about this, some applications wont work with a class 2 speed sd.
sd or sdhc would do. you should be more worried about the speed. as for now you should think of either getting a class 6 16gb or class 4 32gb (if you could find one).
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I was thinking of getting this class 10 32gb micro, Fast enough?
http://www.newegg.ca/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16820220547&Tpk=32gb micro sd

I have class 10 32gb, works fine on xperia play.
The only problem android has, is you cant format 32gb cards on your phone. But most, if not all cards come pre-formatted anyway. Otherwise you have to connect the card with an adapter to your pc to format it.
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You can format 32gb cards on your phone, but it wont format properly and you will have issues. I did with my old phone, it couldnt scan the card properly and it would reboot while trying to scan.

emann56 said:
I was thinking of getting this class 10 32gb micro, Fast enough?
http://www.newegg.ca/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16820220547&Tpk=32gb micro sd
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now that's something
read most of the reviews: crashes and corrupts the files, some even only last within 24 hours i'll stick with the class 4 32gb for now

even with the sandisk 32gb class 2 cards, i already replaced 2 of them when they crapped out on me

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even with the sandisk 32gb class 2 cards, i already replaced 2 of them when they crapped out on me
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haven't read anything about this. and the reviews for a kingston 32gb class 4 on the net has been great so far. but if this will be the case i might just go for a 16gb class 6

Ok, so I got a 32gb card, moved all of my stuff off my 16gb (about 14 gig) to my pc. Took about 20 minutes.
Put my 32 gig in, formatted it & transferred everything over.
Took about 3 hours & when I put it in my play it's saying there's 28 gig left & hardly anything I set to transfer has actually gone to the card ! ?

Do a full format and not a quick format.

Ive seen a class 10 32gb micro sd card for 50 quid, but im worried that its too cheap and might not last long.
Sent from my Xperia Play using Tapatalk

Memory cards are very reliable IF you bought the original ones and not those unbranded fake cards.
I've never had issues with ALL my memory cards, from the SmartMedia, SD, MS stick and Compact Flash cards used in my Palm and Sony Clie PDAs, my DSLR and micro 4/3 digital cameras, PSPs and DSL and all the way to the microSD cards used in my smartphones and tablets. I purchased them all from local reputable shops and never bought any from online stores. Can't remember the exact figures but I probably had a total of 30 to 40 cards here in my house.
The problem I see is those cards that are found on online shops that are unbranded (anything not Sandisk, Kingston, Lexar, Panasonic etc are all semi-fakes). Just imagine that Sandisk the world's largest NAND Flash memory maker has yet to come out with a 32GB Class 10 microSD as of now and you can already find some smaller unknown companies selling them at very cheap prices since many months back?
Sometimes if a deal is too good to be true, IT IS too good to be true! Of course if you still proceed to get them due to their ridiculously cheap prices, the risk is all yours. For me, I just buy the originals at original prices and not regret it later, my data is much more important to me than saving tens of bucks.
For some reason, there are quite a lot of fake Kingston cards on the market so beware.
Various issues with the fake/unbranded cards are:
1. Reliability
2. On a 32GB card, you may actually get only 4 or 8GB storage, some tricks were added in these fake cards such that once you copied beyond the 4 or 8GB capacity, it automatically loops back internally to overwrite the oldest copied data.
3. Some 32GB Class 10 cards only had Class 2 speeds.
Another advice is that for smartphone usage, you may be better off getting Class 2 or 4 cards rather than higher class cards. This is because although the class 6 or 10 cards can have sequential readings and writings at their stated class speeds, in terms of random access of data on the card they may actually be slower than Class 2 and 4 cards. In other words, you'll get more lags using higher Class cards.

Here's a test I did with a Patriot LX Series Class 10 32GB Micro SDHC

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Another advice is that for smartphone usage, you may be better off getting Class 2 or 4 cards rather than higher class cards. This is because although the class 6 or 10 cards can have sequential readings and writings at their stated class speeds, in terms of random access of data on the card they may actually be slower than Class 2 and 4 cards. In other words, you'll get more lags using higher Class cards.
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You sir are correct! My Patriot 32gb micro class 10 lags alot When playing the FPSE the game lags too much but with the micro sd card that came with the Xperia play runs perfect I'm gonna return the card and just get a Sandisk 32gb class 2 from newegg.

Recce5
After doing a test of manually copying content to the card I believe I have fallen foul to buying a cheapo card covered by your point 2.
I've bought quite a few cheapo cards back from my old K750i & PSP days but this is the 1st one I've been stung with.
Live & learn etc !

buyed Bad SD Card?

Hey,
I am just flashing Windows Phone 7 on my HD2 now... I buyed a "Class 10 16GB Card" from a German Reseller (Media Markt) today. But while Im flashing using DFT I just have a Speed from 61 kbytes/sec... I think its not that fast, is it? Have I buyed a "fake class 10" card or something? what do you think?
Robin

I done near think you buyed you a fake XP
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I done near think you buyed you a fake XP
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Than Ill just go to MM on monday and ask for a refund. I will get one

just started again - was copied over in 1 Minute ca Works great But still some kind of slow

I have both 8GB class 4 and class 10, after 1 week using, Class 4 still best for WP7. With Class 10, I got restart many times

lol this is dragging up some old threads!
righty, quick SD card lesson
WP7 needs quick 4KB RANDOM writes/reads there are various threads showing you want seems to be best
Now, Class 2 and Class 4 have slow sequential speeds, compared to class 6 and 10
The class system is defined by srquential speeds, this is useful info if your using it for a digital camera, the higher the class rating the quicker you can read an write those large files
However windows phone 7 doesnt mess about with large files, it needs to access many smaller files in a random order.
Now, They way in which SOME SD cards get higher sequential speeds (and thus a high class rating) is by working some magic, unfortunately this same magic has a side effct of reducing random access, so the general rule of thumb is this
Class 2-4 will give you a higher CHANCE of working
Class 6-10 will give you less CHANCE of working
I say chance because apart from some PNY class 2 cards there are not any cards out there on the market sold as "high random access speeds"
Its luck, pure an simple, a Sandisk 8GB class 2 might work for one person, but not someone else, the reason for that is almost every card is made differently.
So statistically you will have better luck with a class 2 or 4.....

When moving to Yuki-Xbmod Mango rom I had 4 SD cards
16Gb Transcend Class 4
2Gb Sandisk Class 2
4Gb Kingston Class 4
4Gb "No Name" Card
The "4Gb no-name" card was the only one that worked.
I needed at least 8Gb and I didnt want to buy one and take teh risk so after asking my friends and trying there cards I found a "8Gb no-name card" that worked and had no choice but to swap my 16Gb card for a 8Gb card!!
My experience shows no-name cards work better.