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Hi there, I dont know if this will be no news to most people out there, but ppl, I just realised if you get the iphone ear phones with the mic, You can use it on the Hero for the following
- Receive Calls
- As Expected Listen to Music
- But You can actually squeeze the mic once to pause the song,
- Squeeze it 2 quick times and it will change the track
If you know of any other ways to use the earphone pls drop me a line but right now Illd go back to enjoying this two lil piece of hardware I have that make my life far much better.
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Hi there, I dont know if this will be no news to most people out there, but ppl, I just realised if you get the iphone ear phones with the mic, You can use it on the Hero for the following
- Receive Calls
- As Expected Listen to Music
- But You can actually squeeze the mic once to pause the song,
- Squeeze it 2 quick times and it will change the track
If you know of any other ways to use the earphone pls drop me a line but right now Illd go back to enjoying this two lil piece of hardware I have that make my life far much better.
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As much as I hate apple, thanks for this! I'll be putting this tip to good use
I wonder what other brands are similarly compatible
I've been using my old iPhone earphones since I switched to the Pre last summer
Love them... great quality on the audio, too.
I think the factory iPod/iPhone head phones are garbage. The sound quality is horrible. I guess thats why they can afford to give them away at the moron bar.
My guess is though, if you have a set of good sony's that are iPhone compatible they would be Hero compatible as well.
actually if you double click it makes a call
laonda13 said:
actually if you double click it makes a call
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Is this while playing a song, cos the whole discovery happened in less than 40 mins ago, so i didnt get to dig into how guarranteed it works.
Well I run a ic3rom 2.1 Rom(That just got release last night and is super sweet.)and mine is the Sprint Version so idk if you are on the same boat.
Maybe I'm just a music snob, but does anyone else think the Hero sounds like crap? If you don't you probably have never tried to listen to it over amplified speakers (like in the aux jack in a car). Total crappola Damn shame too, there was great potential for awesomeness.
Yeah I noticed that it doesn't sound all that great as well. espically with car speakers
Nextelian said:
Maybe I'm just a music snob, but does anyone else think the Hero sounds like crap? If you don't you probably have never tried to listen to it over amplified speakers (like in the aux jack in a car). Total crappola Damn shame too, there was great potential for awesomeness.
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I hook mine to the deck over USB. Deck handles all the decoding. Phone is just a hard drive to it.
Sounds awesome all the time.
This is great. i own the apple headphones w/ mic. Who knew?
What!?
I sold my iPhone 3Gs to get the money to buy this phone, and thought "I'll just sell the headphones because that button is useless."
Dammit...
yeah my hero sounds like sh*t in the car.
i have a pair of samsung earphones that work as playback and mic during calls, the mute button even works.
is it wierd my g1 soubded better over my car speakers, and that i had to get the usb to headphone jack adapter. ha!
I know the ones that come with the pre and the moment work as well. And yes the Hero seems to be eq'd very strange. Way to much mids and bass in the car makes things a tad muddy.
scirio said:
This is great. i own the apple headphones w/ mic. Who knew?
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i was in the same situation..
@everyonelse..thats true, sadly the quality does tend to deteriorate once you connect it to heavier sound systems,
mrniceguy715 said:
I know the ones that come with the pre and the moment work as well. And yes the Hero seems to be eq'd very strange. Way to much mids and bass in the car makes things a tad muddy.
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make sure you do not have the volume on the hero all the way up try turning it way down and adjusting mainly through the car stereo this should help and sound fine......
hope it helps
My wife connects hers through a cassette adapter to the car stereo and sound is great!
I have a 1000 watt amp and I'm blasting my hero as I ride. Sounds great to me.
Hero sounds great over blue tooth
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mountaindont said:
lol! thats like peanut butter and tomato!
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I lol'd, too funny. SQ means different things to different ppl, I guess.
danaff37 said:
Hero sounds great over blue tooth
Sent from my HERO200 using the XDA mobile application powered by Tapatalk
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are you streaming music to a HU with a DAC, or playing on some BT headphones? Seems like if you stick to the smaller speakers it sounds acceptable. That may explain the weird EQ settings, trying to overcome the poor quality earbuds most people like to use.
So last night my car was broken into and they trashed my alpine deck and stole my ipod. So today while shopping for a new stereo for my car I tried finding something that would work well with my HTC Hero. I was hoping for something that would bluetooth connect to my phone and access the music on my sim card. Does anyone have a suggestion on this?
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So last night my car was broken into and they trashed my alpine deck and stole my ipod. So today while shopping for a new stereo for my car I tried finding something that would work well with my HTC Hero. I was hoping for something that would bluetooth connect to my phone and access the music on my sim card. Does anyone have a suggestion on this?
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I'm on a Pioneer DEX-P99RS Ipod/anything USB.
Works well for me. Just plug in USB and mount it like you do a PC. reads all the tracks and ID3 tag info for you.
Not as fancy as bluetooth, but it works. This head unit maybe a bit high for most people. This was my first Pioneer, I was always an Alpine guy until now. I will never buy another Alpine after hearing this thing.
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I'm on a Pioneer DEX-P99RS Ipod/anything USB.
Works well for me. Just plug in USB and mount it like you do a PC. reads all the tracks and ID3 tag info for you.
Not as fancy as bluetooth, but it works. This head unit maybe a bit high for most people. This was my first Pioneer, I was always an Alpine guy until now. I will never buy another Alpine after hearing this thing.
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does it do this for voice calls too or just music?
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does it do this for voice calls too or just music?
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Depends on the adapter I think. Pioneer offers 2 that will connect through Ibus. I want to say it's just Music on mine, and the other actually has a Mic you can run...I'm in it strictly for the boom and to piss off the cops
I have an "aux in" jack in the console of my car. I just use a male-to-male audio cable. Pandora comes in very handy on long car trips.
oh no. K! Don't go down that road! I'm not saying you don't need a stereo that will hit 130db, but that should be the third or forth thing you worry about! First you gotta take care of your hub caps...are they spinnin' man? ARE THEY SPINNIN?
OP, I had a pretty decent deck that did both voice and music over bluetooth...had a pretty decent little touchscreen on it, too...I'll try to remember what it was and get back to you.
oh no. K! Don't go down that road! I'm not saying you don't need a stereo that will hit 130db, but that should be the third or forth thing you worry about! First you gotta take care of your hub caps...are they spinnin' man? ARE THEY SPINNIN?
OP, I had a pretty decent deck that did both voice and music over bluetooth...had a pretty decent little touchscreen on it, too...I'll try to remember what it was and get back to you.
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Hell no! I only buy the best in most cases...steel wheels all the way around!
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I haven't tried since updating to a 2.1 ROM, but with the stock 1.5 I had lag issues running bluetooth audio to my stereo Moto headset. Mostly when using the radio at the same time, like pandora or if it decided to do a sync. I have an older Pioneer with a 3.5mm headphone hooked up, works amazing for me. Would be interested in finding out if the bluetooth works flawless.
Thinking of getting this one it says it does bluetooth audio streaming
http://signature.crutchfield.com/s_113KDCX994/Kenwood-Excelon-KDC-X994.html?o=v&tp=5684
radios dont support ad2p at least i have yet to find one so u cant stream audio over bluetooth but u can still do 3.5 or usb
Well right here under the General Features it says A2DP support and says yes
http://www.kenwoodusa.com/Car_Entertainment/2008_Car_Entertainment/KDC-X994
in my experience kenwood got very fuzzy at high frequencies.
im hugeee into a2dp and the BEST quality chip is sony.
so ANY sony xplod MEX-BT series are amazingg.
i used to hate sony xplod until i tried the bt audio. i have the low end one i got for like 80 bucks. it only has an aux jack and bt but you cant tell a difference in aux and bt.
(im an audiophile too)
i tried kenwood and quality was lost badly for me. Dual brand is by far the worst bt quality on earth. pioneers were ok but low fidelity with a2dp.
anyways hopes that helps.
mkabwilliams said:
Well right here under the General Features it says A2DP support and says yes
http://www.kenwoodusa.com/Car_Entertainment/2008_Car_Entertainment/KDC-X994
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yea i was just about to post the kenwood mybad but i have had top of the line pioneers and aplines and they never had score one for kenwood
Since I drive a jeep with out a top most of the time I bought a brand from wal-mart called "Dual". I haven't ever had much luck with cheapy stereos but this one is pretty good. It does bluetooth, usb, 3.5mm, Ipod control, hd radio. All for 140 bucks, which hurts a lot less than 500 when someone else decides they need your stereo more than you do.
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Thinking of getting this one it says it does bluetooth audio streaming
http://signature.crutchfield.com/s_113KDCX994/Kenwood-Excelon-KDC-X994.html?o=v&tp=5684
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Just bought this myself on eBay for $219 free shipping. Totally worth it, I was able to get rid of my AudioControl EQL equalizer because the sound quality was just that good. I'm having some issues getting 2.1 to remember the pairing, but other than that I can totally recommend the x994 on the merits.
Nextelian said:
Just bought this myself on eBay for $219 free shipping. Totally worth it, I was able to get rid of my AudioControl EQL equalizer because the sound quality was just that good. I'm having some issues getting 2.1 to remember the pairing, but other than that I can totally recommend the x994 on the merits.
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Thanks Nextelian that's awesome news now I just need to find one for that cheap.
grabbed a vr3-VR500CSBT at Target on clearance for $45 for the girlfriend. Bluetooth works like a charm and call quality is excellent.
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Dual brand is by far the worst bt quality on earth..
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Gotta say I picked up the dual at wally world for like 100. The bluetooth is pretty decent as far as the sound reception goes. Only gripe I have with it is when I would get a call the bluetooth wouldn't pick up but if I would call out then it would. That was before I got 2.1 on my hero. The music plays smoothly though. No connection issues at all either. Plus they are fairly cheap to be had at least if your concerned about that.
Dunno if this was suggested, but my boyfriend got the Sony MEX-BT2800 and I connect my phone to it with little issues. Audio works very nicely, as well as calls, though the built in mic can throw some people off but make sure to switch it from the default low sensitivity to high sensitivity to pick up your voice better (picks up engine noise more but no worse than talking on my BT headset). I really need to get this for my car heh.
I'm not a big sony person but thanks for the information. I'm heading out tonight to go check out and pick up a new unit. What ever I get I will come back and give an update on what I think of it and how it works with my Hero.
Thanks
I am about to get the Evo 4G. I heard that the battery life of the Evo is bad, but i've seen a few people post tips and tricks on how to get a longer battery life.
Since I found this out, I was wondering if it would be wise to use the phone as an Mp3 player also?
Has anyone used the music player on their phone, with medium usage of talk/text & have it last the entire day?
Please share your thoughts and opinions with me. Thank you.
It will but I found its not da loud as an ipod touch
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I am about to get the Evo 4G. I heard that the battery life of the Evo is bad, but i've seen a few people post tips and tricks on how to get a longer battery life.
Since I found this out, I was wondering if it would be wise to use the phone as an Mp3 player also?
Has anyone used the music player on their phone, with medium usage of talk/text & have it last the entire day?
Please share your thoughts and opinions with me. Thank you.
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The battery really isn't that bad. If you plan on using it as an MP3 player with some texting, you could turn off all mobile networks except 3G, turn the brightness down, and set it to never roam.
Besides, you can buy two 1500 mAh batteries for the Evo with an additional charger for ten dollars shipped. Can't beat that deal.
Mecha2142 said:
The battery really isn't that bad. If you plan on using it as an MP3 player with some texting, you could turn off all mobile networks except 3G, turn the brightness down, and set it to never roam.
Besides, you can buy two 1500 mAh batteries for the Evo with an additional charger for ten dollars shipped. Can't beat that deal.
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Where do you order that from?
Waleezy said:
I am about to get the Evo 4G. I heard that the battery life of the Evo is bad, but i've seen a few people post tips and tricks on how to get a longer battery life.
Since I found this out, I was wondering if it would be wise to use the phone as an Mp3 player also?
Has anyone used the music player on their phone, with medium usage of talk/text & have it last the entire day?
Please share your thoughts and opinions with me. Thank you.
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This has replaced my ipod touch. I can't speak on whether or not it will go to "11" however, I don't have any trouble. I do have awesome headphones though!
drbadass said:
Where do you order that from?
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Just do a search on ebay for evo battery and you'll see them; 2 standard (after market) batteries with a desktop charger. Seller has hundreds of them.
http://bit.ly/bYuB9m
This is where I purchased it from. I actually ordered two quantities, so I'll be getting four batteries .
Waleezy said:
I am about to get the Evo 4G. I heard that the battery life of the Evo is bad, but i've seen a few people post tips and tricks on how to get a longer battery life.
Since I found this out, I was wondering if it would be wise to use the phone as an Mp3 player also?
Has anyone used the music player on their phone, with medium usage of talk/text & have it last the entire day?
Please share your thoughts and opinions with me. Thank you.
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I can honestly say I sold my IPOD when I bought my Nexus One and used that as my preferred music player. I can say the same for my EVO!! I work out for about 1.25hrs everyother day so during my work out it may go down about 15 percentage 20 at the most! Try it! For some odd reason Player music on this things doesn't drain the battery as much as one would think! Good Luck
i can't imagine this replacing an ipod touch. they're just two totally different devices. apple really has its act together when it comes to simplicity and user interfaces for appliance-like applications. i also can't imagine any non-apple device handling my ~60GB music collection in any fluid, timely manner. my hero choked on just a few GB.
it also doesn't gracefully sync with itunes. whether people like it or not, itunes is the industry standard for digital music distribution, and it's nice to be able to seamlessly buy music sometimes.
Slightly off topic, but has anyone looked at there iPod touch and gone, "Wow when did this thing get so small?" As for replacing my iPod Touch with my phone? Not going to happen anytime soon. I use my phone heavily when im out and about and would rather not waste phone battery for playing music. Especially since my headphones are bluetooth. With 'MY' normal use I have to charge my phone nightly, the iPod at least every other day, and the headphones every few days.
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Waleezy said:
I am about to get the Evo 4G. I heard that the battery life of the Evo is bad, but i've seen a few people post tips and tricks on how to get a longer battery life.
Since I found this out, I was wondering if it would be wise to use the phone as an Mp3 player also?
Has anyone used the music player on their phone, with medium usage of talk/text & have it last the entire day?
Please share your thoughts and opinions with me. Thank you.
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I use it as an player while I mow the lawn on Sundays. Usually takes me about 1.5-2 hours and the battery doesn't go down much. Still lasts me the rest of the day.
I don't know what I've been doing different lately but ever since I flashed Fresh 0.2 and set my preferred network to CDMA and turn ON my wifi when I have that in range (especially if I have low 3g signal)...or sometimes I program my PRL to prefer verizon towers--all of this has resulted in my battery never dipping below 50% by time I leave work. That is with moderate usage which includes 5-20 txts, 5-15 minutes of voice calls, 10-30 min of web surfing on 3g (I am at work after all), full screen brightness. I work a 10 hour day in building that nearly blocks all 3g signals so I get 1-2 bars tops. I have used it to play mp3's for an entire day (with volume low, it's hooked to a stereo), or through headphones on max for a few hours here and there. never went below 50%.
My battery life has actually been fantastic lately. (I also have an Autokiller running...though I doubt that thing actually does anything useful, the jury is still out on that.)
Now, is it a slick an interface as an ipod? No. Itunes can be hacked to work with it, but it just isn't the same. Though, I ****ing hate itunes with a passion. What's wrong with drag-n-drop? I find the sense music player to be acceptable, though a bit lame. There are plenty of other media players in the market though.
The battery life is not even close to that of an ipod, but it will certainly make it through a day, especially if you put it in airplane mode. I've never tried but I bet I'd barely get down to 75% of a full day of mp3 playing with no radios on....maybe more.
Personally I think carrying around a phone like this AND an ipod to be simply ridiculous and mostly redundant. It does not replace all functionality of an ipod without a little effort. Drag-n-drop music instead of syncing is a pain to some, but far easier to me. you'll have to re-encode video to a mpeg4 or h.263 if you want video...and video will likely hurt the battery a bit with that gigantic screen....and the interface is a bit clunkier than an ipod....but, I'd feel like a tool carrying both around with me.
...but I wouldn't have a need for a dedicated media player, your needs may be different.
daneurysm said:
I don't know what I've been doing different lately but ever since I flashed Fresh 0.2 and set my preferred network to CDMA and turn ON my wifi when I have that in range (especially if I have low 3g signal)...or sometimes I program my PRL to prefer verizon towers--all of this has resulted in my battery never dipping below 50% by time I leave work. That is with moderate usage which includes 5-20 txts, 5-15 minutes of voice calls, 10-30 min of web surfing on 3g (I am at work after all), full screen brightness. I work a 10 hour day in building that nearly blocks all 3g signals so I get 1-2 bars tops. I have used it to play mp3's for an entire day (with volume low, it's hooked to a stereo), or through headphones on max for a few hours here and there. never went below 50%.
My battery life has actually been fantastic lately. (I also have an Autokiller running...though I doubt that thing actually does anything useful, the jury is still out on that.)
Now, is it a slick an interface as an ipod? No. Itunes can be hacked to work with it, but it just isn't the same. Though, I ****ing hate itunes with a passion. What's wrong with drag-n-drop? I find the sense music player to be acceptable, though a bit lame. There are plenty of other media players in the market though.
The battery life is not even close to that of an ipod, but it will certainly make it through a day, especially if you put it in airplane mode. I've never tried but I bet I'd barely get down to 75% of a full day of mp3 playing with no radios on....maybe more.
Personally I think carrying around a phone like this AND an ipod to be simply ridiculous and mostly redundant. It does not replace all functionality of an ipod without a little effort. Drag-n-drop music instead of syncing is a pain to some, but far easier to me. you'll have to re-encode video to a mpeg4 or h.263 if you want video...and video will likely hurt the battery a bit with that gigantic screen....and the interface is a bit clunkier than an ipod....but, I'd feel like a tool carrying both around with me.
...but I wouldn't have a need for a dedicated media player, your needs may be different.
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Wow, thanks for giving me some great detailed feedback on that. And thanks to the rest of the people who responded. I wasn't expecting that much of a response.
But yea I loved my 64GB iPod touch. I sold it to get the new Evo, but then I will sell my Nexus One on ebay. And I was either going to use those funds to re-buy my iPod touch or just buy a 32GB SD card and use the music player on my phone. I'm still on the fence about that.
I love the interface of the iPod Touch, if there is any app out there in the Android Market that can match the iPod Touch's interface, someone please let me know. (I use TuneWiki on my N1, if theres a better one, let me know please). I do like the simplicity of dragging and dropping my mp3s onto the SD card w/o syncing & having it show the artwork. Less hassle than syncing to itunes.
The only thing that I do not like is that the volume on the phone (with headphones plugged in) is not as loud as the iPod Touch's volume. If there were a volume hack, thats would be a DEFINATE PLUS. Also, like I said, I use TuneWiki and there aren't any EQs that I could set it to, maybe there might be a program that is better that allows you to set the EQs to your liking?
Overall, I was concerned with battery life. I hope they make a good extended battery that does not make you purchase a big ass backdoor. I wish there was an SD card bigger than 32GB, but unfortunately there isnt (If there is, point me in that direction). Once I get my phone, I am planning on rooting it and using Bugless Pete's ROM. Hopefully I get some good battery life on it though...
Well, I came from using an LG Lotus as a mp3 player and that had pitiful volume level...this is on par with my samsung moment, which compared to my Lotus is WAY louder. It's loud enough to overload my car stereo, home stereo and work stereo, so I keep it 2/3rd turned down so it doesn't sound like crap.
...it gets far louder in my headphones than I could ever need it, and I've been playing in a punk band for almost 15 years now, my hearing is shot. If it isn't loud enough for you I would recommend some better headphones...or a hearing aid, lol.
and so far as interface is concerned that's up in the air, it's only as good as the app you use and thankfully the android community is growing by the day, so there are tons of media player apps and will likely be tons more, growing in complexity and/or polish with each day.
32gb of music is still a mammoth amount of music, and when 64gb micro-sd cards come out I'm sure we can support it, if not out of the box then a simple update will likely change that.
I'm sure the EQ thing will be addressed shortly...and if batterly life is that much of a concern you can turn the screen brightness all the way down, disable background data and syncing, put it in airplane mode if you have no concern for communcations (this will likely make it last for days, however it's unpractical for most).
Though I think most of the credit for my recent battery life boost goes to the Fresh rom. In the thread I found it in people complained of worse battery life, but I think that might have been the battery memory just leveling out or something like that...I ignored it as the battery life is always less than thrilling, so I just kept it charging when I had time to do so...and now I only charge it right before bed (around midnight) and it goes from when I wake up (4:15am ish) till bedtime again (midnight ish) and has yet to dip into the yellow...regardless of how much I use it with the screen brightness maxed out (though I keep GPS off unless I need, well, GPS...wifi is on if I have availability...or forget to turn it off...hasn't been an issue).
YMMV, as always, but, I'd say you'd probably be pretty happy after adjusting to the "mere" 32gb of storage, different interface and need to buy some decent (or maybe less power hungry) headphones.
Just have a charger wherever you go in case of emergency. Now you've only got one device in your pocket.
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Well, I came from using an LG Lotus as a mp3 player and that had pitiful volume level...this is on par with my samsung moment, which compared to my Lotus is WAY louder. It's loud enough to overload my car stereo, home stereo and work stereo, so I keep it 2/3rd turned down so it doesn't sound like crap.
...it gets far louder in my headphones than I could ever need it, and I've been playing in a punk band for almost 15 years now, my hearing is shot. If it isn't loud enough for you I would recommend some better headphones...or a hearing aid, lol.
and so far as interface is concerned that's up in the air, it's only as good as the app you use and thankfully the android community is growing by the day, so there are tons of media player apps and will likely be tons more, growing in complexity and/or polish with each day.
32gb of music is still a mammoth amount of music, and when 64gb micro-sd cards come out I'm sure we can support it, if not out of the box then a simple update will likely change that.
I'm sure the EQ thing will be addressed shortly...and if batterly life is that much of a concern you can turn the screen brightness all the way down, disable background data and syncing, put it in airplane mode if you have no concern for communcations (this will likely make it last for days, however it's unpractical for most).
Though I think most of the credit for my recent battery life boost goes to the Fresh rom. In the thread I found it in people complained of worse battery life, but I think that might have been the battery memory just leveling out or something like that...I ignored it as the battery life is always less than thrilling, so I just kept it charging when I had time to do so...and now I only charge it right before bed (around midnight) and it goes from when I wake up (4:15am ish) till bedtime again (midnight ish) and has yet to dip into the yellow...regardless of how much I use it with the screen brightness maxed out (though I keep GPS off unless I need, well, GPS...wifi is on if I have availability...or forget to turn it off...hasn't been an issue).
YMMV, as always, but, I'd say you'd probably be pretty happy after adjusting to the "mere" 32gb of storage, different interface and need to buy some decent (or maybe less power hungry) headphones.
Just have a charger wherever you go in case of emergency. Now you've only got one device in your pocket.
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Thank you for your input.
When I had my 64GB iPod Touch. It was only half way full, like about 31GB, but many of the albums I put on there, I did not like. I just put them on there because I use my iPod in my car alot, so my friends can choose what they would like to listen to, even if I didn't like it. That might change now lol.
I've been searching around and found an app called bTunes. It looks almost exactly like an iPod Touch's interface. I'm quite impressed, but they still need to polish it out a little more to get it to look as good as the Touch.
As far as the volume goes, im a huge music lover. I am a rapper/producer, love listening to my music loud and listening on my N1, the volume is up to par like on the iPod Touch. Like I said, if they release a voume hack for the EVO, I might be sold!
And also, I never had a car charger for my phone, so I guess that would be something that I should look into once I receive my Evo. Thanks again!
I strictly used my ipod to play music so the interface, games and apps were secondary. Carrying both around for me seemed silly but I understand the battery life concerns for others. I work at a desk and power is always near by. Doubletwist is a free app that syncs your itunes with your android. It also converts video to work on your android. It takes some time but it does do the job. My mogul had a special port that was used for headphones and was a pain to use a dongle to connect headphones. I see that they have done away with that and made it alot easier.
You CAN drag and drop your music to the phone. As Itunes will convert your aac music to mp3. Battery life is what it is. Prepare for it or carry two devices. I have a zune 30gb and an ipod touch 8gb. There were some conveniences you won't have like buying things from the Store, ultimately you would still want to sync with your home machine. I only buy when I'm at home though.
I also can't imagine any non-apple device handling my ~60GB music collection in any fluid, timely manner. my hero choked on just a few GB.
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Zune 120GB
Whether people like it or not, itunes is the industry standard for digital music distribution, and it's nice to be able to seamlessly buy music sometimes.
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Being used to cellphone audio quality (nokia 5800, SE W850) i know they are usually decent, but not more than that. So it didn't occure to me that i should try the player on the SGS i9000.
Today i finally did, to test the supplied earphones.
Hearing that the phone with the mediocre supplied earphones sounds good, i switched to my AKG K317.
HOLY *stuff that shouldn't be written here* THE SOUND QUALITY IS MINDBLOWING.
I don't know what the hell Samsung did here, but it appears that someone did something VERY right here.
Now i have no use for my Creative Zen, which is kind of sad.
If any of you still didn't try it- well, it's about time to.
Agreed, it's amazing.
I'm not sure this suprises me tbh, Samsung know what they are doing in this field, more than a lot of other companies.
Not a big fan of the headset tho. I find it hurts after a while and in the stock music player there is no way to skip the current track. No skip, no fast forward, reverse etc. MixZing can skip tracks, but it's a bit iffy and that's all it can do.
I have yet to find a music player that is as good as the one on my old iPhone. On that phone I could skip, reverse, fast forward, pause, play etc with the headset. And I often used voice control to change playlists and shuffle the songs when I'm out bicycling. Can't do this on this phone right now and that is a problem.
Sound quality on this one isn't bad though.
Got any advice for me?
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I have yet to find a music player that is as good as the one on my old iPhone. On that phone I could skip, reverse, fast forward, pause, play etc with the headset. And I often used voice control to change playlists and shuffle the songs when I'm out bicycling. Can't do this on this phone right now and that is a problem.
Sound quality on this one isn't bad though.
Got any advice for me?
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Apparently (there's another thread that talks about that) the Nokia remotes work since it's the same jack layout. I'll have to try that out since controlling the player from the remote is essential.
Totally agree with the OP. Music is awesome on this phone. Beats the HTC HD2 and the iPod. Together with the Sure SE500 and Dolby surround enabled on the Galaxy it is simply amazing.
i agree, but the stock ear phones are funny :/
there's too much treble in it, and bass is low on high.
apart from that its an awesome phone.
When GSMarena reviewed the Galaxy S, they described it as "perfect audio quality":
wwwgsmarena.com/samsung_i9000_galaxy_s-review-478p6.php
Finally a phone that equals or surpasses the iPhones in sound quality.
Better than iphone's music player? LOL. I'll have whatever pot you guys are smoking.
The sound in SGS is shallow, skips beats occasionally, and pauses occasionally, may be due to lags. It is also very lacking in functions and features.
iPhone's music player is miles ahead, if you really have been using both.
1. iPhone music player lets me combine music video and audio into a single playlist. SGS can't.
2. iPhone music player lets me continue to play the sound on video with the option of screen completely shut off, therefore good for listening to music videos without having to look at the picture. SGS can't.
3. iPhone music player lets me pause/play/skip/repeat songs entirely with the volume button, with the music running in both foreground and background and both screen on or off. SGS has an application in the market place to contra music totally with the volume button but the screen must be on, and music player must be the foreground task, so you can control it which surfing the net, for example.
4. iPhone music player has the option of displaying lyric while the music play. I'm not aware of such possibility. I'm talking about stock music player here.
5. iPhone standard headset also let me completely control the music playing (play/pause/skip/previous) with the control on the wire itself. What can the button in SGS's wired headset control? Limited, isn't it?
6. iPhone slider let's you slide either very fast or extremely slow depending on how far away you move your finger from the slider.
7. iPhone music player never ever pause, skip music. SGS does, which is one of the first things I noted and complained about.
8. iPhone music player does not require long media scan each time we reboot the phone. I don't even dare to put in all my 22 GB of musics on my SGS.
There are things i like more in SGS than iPhone, but music player and sound quality aren't among them.
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Better than iphone's music player? LOL. I'll have whatever pot you guys are smoking.
The sound in SGS is shallow, skips beats occasionally, and pauses occasionally, may be due to lags. It is also very lacking in functions and features.
iPhone's music player is miles ahead, if you really have been using both. [....]
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From my experience, it all comes down to the right combination between the music player and the characteristics of the headset. For me the combination between the SGS and the Shure in ear phones is by far the best of all combinations I tried.
what model are you using appelflap?
I am pondering to get myself a sony/sennheiser soon..
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From my experience, it all comes down to the right combination between the music player and the characteristics of the headset. For me the combination between the SGS and the Shure in ear phones is by far the best of all combinations I tried.
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You're right there, appleflap, more expensive headset does make hugh difference, but this works for both if one is willing to spend that much more for expensive headset. Won't help with the skips, pause, long media scanning time when you want the entire collection of music in, and the limited fuctionalities that I mentioned though.
Personally, I much prefer connecting my SGS or iPhone to good external speakers. Wow, the sound depth and richness completely change with that set up. That's what I always do before bed. I miss the ability to just rest my finger on the volume button to completely control the music in iPhone, without ever have to turn on the screen. I don't like sticking anything into my ear while trying to get to sleep, although I have that option.
Correct me if im wrong, but Apple uses a dedicated audio chip for music playing while samsung is just using the A8 CPU for it. This accounts for the crap battery life when playing audio on the Galaxy (barely 10 hours) vs 40 on the iPhone 4 and the better sound quality on the iPhone.
I basically went back to the iPhone because of this. For a phone that's touted as a multimedia powerhouse, not having a dedicated audio chip seems absurd to me. I work for 10 hours a day and I like to listen to music the whole time, with the Galaxy I'd go back home with 30% battery and only if I hadn't used the phone for anything else. With the iPhone I can play music all day and be back home with more than 75% battery.
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Correct me if im wrong, but Apple uses a dedicated audio chip for music playing while samsung is just using the A8 CPU for it. This accounts for the crap battery life when playing audio on the Galaxy (barely 10 hours) vs 40 on the iPhone 4 and the better sound quality on the iPhone.
I basically went back to the iPhone because of this. For a phone that's touted as a multimedia powerhouse, not having a dedicated audio chip seems absurd to me. I work for 10 hours a day and I like to listen to music the whole time, with the Galaxy I'd go back home with 30% battery and only if I hadn't used the phone for anything else. With the iPhone I can play music all day and be back home with more than 75% battery.
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You can always buy a spare battery. Or better yet, buy 10 ( ebay sells them for 5$ the piece) and you can listen for 10 days to music.
iPhone can't do that that's why I even didn't consider the iPhone (kidding)
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You can always buy a spare battery. Or better yet, buy 10 ( ebay sells them for 5$ the piece) and you can listen for 10 days to music.
iPhone can't do that that's why I even didn't consider the iPhone (kidding)
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Those battery are useless. I've tried them. It's cheaper to buy the genuine one although they cost 20 times more. It turns out cheaper.
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You're right there, appleflap, more expensive headset does make hugh difference, but this works for both if one is willing to spend that much more for expensive headset. Won't help with the skips, pause, long media scanning time when you want the entire collection of music in, and the limited fuctionalities that I mentioned though.
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Yeah, I read that. I personally haven't any problems with it. I have had never any skip or pause. And as for the media scanning: I was pretty amazed about the speed actually. In contrast to my HD2 it is blazing fast. Scanning 14 Gb of audio files in just a few seconds is pretty amazing.
Maybe there are some problems with your SD card?
Personally, I much prefer connecting my SGS or iPhone to good external speakers. Wow, the sound depth and richness completely change with that set up. That's what I always do before bed. I miss the ability to just rest my finger on the volume button to completely control the music in iPhone, without ever have to turn on the screen. I don't like sticking anything into my ear while trying to get to sleep, although I have that option.
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Haven't tried that set up. I use a iPod for an external speaker set up
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Those battery are useless. I've tried them. It's cheaper to buy the genuine one although they cost 20 times more. It turns out cheaper.
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I just ordered 2 with a charger. I know they won't last as long as the original ones, but as spare batteries I expect they will do there job. (For my HD2 I also had those cheap ebay batteries and I was very satisfied with it)
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I just ordered 2 with a charger. I know they won't last as long as the original ones, but as spare batteries I expect they will do there job. (For my HD2 I also had those cheap ebay batteries and I was very satisfied with it)
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I ordered two of those before. I gave a 5 star rating to them when I first got them. However, very very quickly the live shorten, and within a couple of months became useless. Now they no longer charge.
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I ordered two of those before. I gave a 5 star rating to them when I first got them. However, very very quickly the live shorten, and within a couple of months became useless. Now they no longer charge.
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for $5 a piece I can live with that (in fact i didn't expect more)
I just upgraded to the Trophy and switched to WP7. Love it and not looking back. I miss the slightly bigger screen, a few free apps and google maps/directions, but other than that, WP7 is a winner for me.
Now, what should I do with my fascinate? Is it worth keeping as something like an iPod Touch? Or should I sell it off and just buy a dedicated camera plus mp3 player for that purpose? I'm assuming I could get at least $200 for this, which would get me a nice Rockbox player. I would get an iPod touch, but I'm very allergic to iTunes.
I'd like to use the fascinate (or something else) as an MP3 player and exercise tracker for the gym, offline map use with google maps and HTPC remote control. However, I'm worried because the battery life is utter crap. Is it still that way w/ the cellular radio turned off?
Now assuming I keep it and don't sell it there are some other questions. Which ROM would be best for my purposes? Assume all I need to do is underclock and Voodoo. Still Comm ROM?
Also, having trouble finding accessories. Is there a gym-appropriate case that works well for the gym? Something like a silicone bumper with armband, legband or beltclip/holster? Double duty for around the house would help.
Appreciate your opinions.
the Fascinate is a great music player if you install Voodoo Sound.
Id sell it and get an ipod touch
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I'm keeping mine and using it like an iPod when the GS2 comes to VZ. With voodoo sound, the audio output of the Fascinate is incredible to say the least. The GS2 apparently isn't near as good with audio, and I know sound quality is pretty crappy from iPods.
Why use it as an ipod if your windows phone is also a great mp3 player? why carrying two devices when one can do all?
sell it, make some money out of it and take your girlfriend out for dinner Lol
Primary phone + gym = don't wanna go there. I love that WP7 has an FM radio and great music, but I view most things I take to the gym as likely to die/disappear/destruct (for historical reasons). Also using phone as a music player for an hour workout guarantees battery failure at a needed point - been there / done that. I like to keep it separate for many reasons. That said, if I get a good enough case, maybe I'll try it.
Additionally WP7 doesn't scobble or support replaygain. I like both. Crossing my fingers that someday the APIs will allow Foobar2000 (or an equivalent) to run on WP7.
I don't like iTunes. Will never get an iPod touch for that reason. If they cut the cord, fine, but if I have to use iTunes that's a dealbreaker. I evaluate a lot of tech and it pains me whenever I have to check something on an iPad because that means installing iTunes.
Dinner for girlfriend is fine, but I'm single at the moment. I don't take a girl on a date and tell her I sold a phone to buy her a Chalupa
Ok, so apparently I need to Voodoo my phone twice now. All I thought I needed was to get rid of that damned Samsung filesystem. Is there a ROM that has this pre-loaded?
Com rom would be great...i get over a day and a half with split time on 3g and wifi, listening to music with power amp for about 4 hours at work, and texting on and . voodoo sound is in kernels, but both that are included withCom rom have it
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You can use Winamp and various other apps to manage music on iDevices. Personally, my old iPod Touch easily gets 20 hours of continous music playback (that's likely on the conservative side! I frequently forget to pause my ipod at night, so it'll end up playing ~10 hours, and do that several nights in a row without charging!), while my Fascinate would probably get no where near that amount... Music playback seems to use a shockingly large amount of battery for some odd reason. Either should be more than fine for a couple days worth of work outs without charging, though. There's also definitely going to be every accessory under the sun for the iPod, while the Fascinate will have a tiny handful of accessories (most of which will probably be some generic 'universal' one that doesn't fit quite right and is of questionable build quality).
Also, people keep saying how "great" the sound is from the Fascinate... I doubt with headphones you'll be using at the gym that the claimed difference would matter. When using any reasonably priced headphones, you won't be telling the difference! That's also assuming the audio files you have are of high enough quality to tell as well...
If you're sticking with the Fascinate, I'd recommend sticking with whatever ROM you currently are on until CM7 supports all the hardware you want to use. I'm personally waiting for a fully funcional CM7 before upgrading from SC 2.9.2.
Edit: If your phone is running any ComRom/UKB, you already have Voodoo Sound. Voodoo Sound has been supported in Froyo almost since we started using the kernel source for the Mesmerize back on some version of Super Clean.
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You can use Winamp and various other apps to manage music on iDevices. Personally, my old iPod Touch easily gets 20 hours of continous music playback (that's likely on the conservative side! I frequently forget to pause my ipod at night, so it'll end up playing ~10 hours, and do that several nights in a row without charging!), while my Fascinate would probably get no where near that amount... Music playback seems to use a shockingly large amount of battery for some odd reason. Either should be more than fine for a couple days worth of work outs without charging, though. There's also definitely going to be every accessory under the sun for the iPod, while the Fascinate will have a tiny handful of accessories (most of which will probably be some generic 'universal' one that doesn't fit quite right and is of questionable build quality).
Also, people keep saying how "great" the sound is from the Fascinate... I doubt with headphones you'll be using at the gym that the claimed difference would matter. When using any reasonably priced headphones, you won't be telling the difference! That's also assuming the audio files you have are of high enough quality to tell as well...
If you're sticking with the Fascinate, I'd recommend sticking with whatever ROM you currently are on until CM7 supports all the hardware you want to use. I'm personally waiting for a fully funcional CM7 before upgrading from SC 2.9.2.
Edit: If your phone is running any ComRom/UKB, you already have Voodoo Sound. Voodoo Sound has been supported in Froyo almost since we started using the kernel source for the Mesmerize back on some version of Super Clean.
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+1. For messing with my iPod Touch files, I use CopyTrans Manager, which is free, it is decent and very reliable.
Heh, without the celluar radios on, android devices have a crazy amount of battery life. Using my hero as an mp3 player it would go 2 days before needing a charge with lite use. No reason the fascinate would be much different especially being used as a mp3 player seeing one of the biggest power draws is the screen it's self. I'd just keep it and continue use, you pretty much have a Galaxy S player.
Depending on how much you use the screen you could probably get around 2-4 days use out of it. Cm7 has a feature where you can hold the volume key up or down to skip a song or play the previous one while the screen is off so theres some potential battery savings there if you make good playlists. If audio quality is important to you, this phone + voodoo sound + a decent pair of headphones will provide a top notch experience.
Sent from my kang banged fascinate, bro.
Just for a better reference point for an older iPod Touch's battery life (the newer ones are better), I last charged mine 3 days ago, and have used it the last two nights for somewhere on the order of 10-12 hours each night, totally somewhere from 20-24 hours... and I currently have more than half my battery left. I'll get at least another 2 nights of similar usage before it gets into the red, so I'd figure somewhere around 40-50 hours of playtime.
are you guys using a dock out something or the internal speaker? I know with my daughters nano (5thgen) a long as its not powering it own speaker it last forever lol but its a lot smaller battery too
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are you guys using a dock out something or the internal speaker? I know with my daughters nano (5thgen) a long as its not powering it own speaker it last forever lol but its a lot smaller battery too
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I've never owned an ipod myself but I would assume most people use them with headphones...
Sent from my kang banged fascinate, bro.
well there are talking about night time use so headphones don't seen logical especially if sleeping... atleast I don't sleep with them anyway haha
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If you have one of the custom kernels (PBJ, OTB), just download Voodoo Control (free) from the Market.
Regarding battery life, I went out of the country last year, and had to keep my phone in airplane mode to avoid roaming fees. I basically just used it as an alarm clock (no music, etc). After seven days, I still had about 70% battery left. I really wish I had taken a screen shot so people won't say I'm lying. This was on bloated stock rom, btw.
And I agree with your hate of iTunes. The iPod Touch is an amazing piece of hardware, but being tied to iTunes is also a deal breaker for me. Maybe you could jail break it and not have to rely on iTunes?
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well there are talking about night time use so headphones don't seen logical especially if sleeping... atleast I don't sleep with them anyway haha
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I use earbud-style headphones. Those present absolutely no difficulties with sleeping I prefer earbuds since they're far more portable than any other style (just shove them in my pocket and go!).
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Regarding battery life, I went out of the country last year, and had to keep my phone in airplane mode to avoid roaming fees. I basically just used it as an alarm clock (no music, etc). After seven days, I still had about 70% battery left. I really wish I had taken a screen shot so people won't say I'm lying. This was on bloated stock rom, btw.
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That's not really surprising, the phone should be using virtually zero power in that case. Nothing should be waking it up until the internal timer wakes the kernel, that'll then trigger the alarm, pretty much.
beenz said:
And I agree with your hate of iTunes. The iPod Touch is an amazing piece of hardware, but being tied to iTunes is also a deal breaker for me. Maybe you could jail break it and not have to rely on iTunes?
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You don't need to jailbreak it to use something else. I mentioned Winamp earlier in the thread, and someone else mentioned another program. There's quite a few that can be used to sync your music, including multiple programs on Linux/OS X as well. Hating iTunes isn't really a good enough reason
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You don't need to jailbreak it to use something else. I mentioned Winamp earlier in the thread, and someone else mentioned another program. There's quite a few that can be used to sync your music, including multiple programs on Linux/OS X as well. Hating iTunes isn't really a good enough reason
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I should have said that the requirement to use any program to sync my device is a deal breaker for me. I thought maybe jail breaking would allow a drag and drop (like our phones)
But if it isn't for the OP, I think Media Monkey will also sync an iPod
I personally kinda like iTunes as a music player and the syncing isn't that horrible... but anyway enough about that.
If I was against getting an iPod then I'd keep the Fascinate as an MP3 player. You get to use it not only to play music but you get the added benefit of Google syncing (personally I can't live without calendar, Gmail) and the entire Android Market. Using Voodoo will get you a faster filesystem and awesome sound, and with the appropriate kernel you can configure it for battery life. Without the radio and using wi-fi sparingly you can get some amazing battery life. And don't forget it's got that awesome screen.
If you don't need a camcorder and don't mind limited BT, then CM6 is pretty stable and will be the cleanest and smoothest ROM (MMS is broken too but that won't matter since you don't have service on it). There should be some voodoo kernels for it floating around somewhere in the Development forum.