I wanted to put out my views as to what's wrong and what's right with Microsoft Phones.
Apple have a good business model - create something that is aesthetically pleasing and has a rich gui - set up an app store to get more money after the sale of the device and link it with the itunes store to get even more money... and when this isn't enough to compete with newer models of phones - they just launch 1 monre iphone device with improvements to again compete... (remember the iPhone original and all they did was give it a 3g chip and people just had to have that!)
The BEST bit about this is Development... The devices get many many updates and if you compare this to windows mobile devices - you are lucky to get even 1 update from microsoft or the network or manufacturer during its lifetime - this is in order for microsoft to sell more windows mobile licences and the manufacturers to sell more devices.
MIcrosoft has just recently come round to understand that the money is in software people buy after the device is bought - the problem is they are playing catchup and so far so bad.
Without HTC windows mobile would have died almost as fast as a gastrotrich (google it).
What I want most of all is for my device to match it's potential - Currently I'm using HTC Touch HD and I just think that spec wise its far far better than an iPhone - however I wish that HTC didn't stop at just giving it a touchflo 3d scaled to fit the screen resolution.
This device should be an iPhone killer but it's not there at all.
my resons for this -
TouchFlo3d should have been re-sexified and made to completely skin wm6
Give ne a rich gui - Apple can do it - Palm with web os can do it.
All I can show off is my flipping clock and the weather demo.
Games - well Apple have fully embraced gaming - and due to the fact that windows phones have different display properties - and different technologies - there is not a game that plays well on all devices = especially with this device due to lack of hardware buttons.
resco's bubbles is the best game at the moment - but I want to see more than balls moving round my screen and the sony ericsson xperia game got me interested to see what it can do but probably will never see the potential exploited as htc need to sell more devices and microsoft more licences.
Microsoft either needs to buy HTC for a Massive figure to act more like apple - selling 1 or 2 models at a time - and then ensuring that new models are backward compatible and people who want to stay with the device can pay to upgrade the os like apple do.
sorry this was a bit of a rant - i just know that my touchHD will never beat the iPhone with everything that apple does to control the market.
My advice to Microsoft - Windows Mobile 7 had better be everything that windows 6 isn't.
HTC - make a device you can sell by the bucketload and maximise its potential.
what do you think?
here's the main thread on this old subject with a lot more views:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=443504
spvc500,
Please join the other thread. I had a response to your post there.
Duplicate.
Thread Closed.
Dave
Please tell a friend to tell a friend about Naughty By Nature's promotion with Windows Mobile to win a Touch Pro2 themed phone by PROBEX. Go to www.facebook.com/windowsmobile and click "Become a Fan". We're trying to get the fan number up as much as possible before July 15th when they pick a winner for a trip for 2 to L.A. to see Naughty Live and the new Touch Pro 2 phone!
Also Be the first to get your hands on my latest TF3D design. There will be videos of the theme on windows mobile by early next week.
I know Naughty By Nature has tons of fans but I think I may have a few kicking around as well so here is my shout out to all you guys who have ever ran one of my many themes over the years.
Thanks for all your support everyone on XDA.
ahhaaa
COOL!
Full Demo Video
Opsy Video showed personal phone numbers... will add after the edit
Here is the new blurred Video
VIDEO LINK OF THE THEME
http://www.foxbusiness.com/video/index.html?playerId=videolandingpage&streamingFormat=FLASH&referralObject=6463934&referralPlaylistId=1292d14d0e3afdcf0b31500afefb92724c08f046
A little publicity of the theme I did for Naughty by Nature.
have you considered on doing a Tupac theme? I can help you if you decide to.. I think that would be awesome.. BTW I love your Naughty by Nature theme
wow..naughty by nature who'd a thunk they'd re-surface?
either way..congrats on having ur hard work and dedication paying off for u!
Hey guys, it looks like we wont get an official Windows Phone 7 update for our Leo. This is crap dude, i paid 700 bucks (US Dollars) on ebay for the HD2 to hear this sad ass news.
here is the link read about it...
here
http://www.1800pocketpc.com/2010/03/01/no-windows-phone-7-upgrade-for-htc-hd2-official-info.html
and here
http://wmpoweruser.com/?p=13820
I just wanted to explain my outburst!!!! SON OF A BIt$H!
and here: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=640247
why is it sad?
WM6.5 looks pretty good to me and I find it aesthetcially great with sense ui (although i admit to installing cookie's HT and s2u2).
I have used iphone 3GS on contract and HD2 gives longer battery, looks just as good in use (although not as intuitive), and is far more powerful and configurable.
HD2 has most of the facebook/social networking integration already by grouping email+texts+tweets+fbook+etc all to each person's profile.
It has solid exchange support which i am sure of. And i can install a whole host of apps on my mini pc.
WMP7 = iphone = smart featurephone. not a smart computerphone.
my 2ds. <-- yeah, I'm pre decimal.
Closed as other threads open on this.
WB
I've been doing some work with Samsung, putting the Galaxy Tab through its paces.
I've just been asked to dream up my ideal Galaxy Tab application! I've got a million and one ideas, but wondering what you guys thought?
I have the ear of some pretty senior people at Samsung, who knows, one of these ideas could become a reality one day!
So what will it be? An integrated Email and Text messaging system? A battery life managing piece of software? What would YOU like from Samsung/Google?
I also got to meet the CEO of Google for this task. More about that here: bilal-mobiler.blogspot.com/
Phone as standard on US Tabs.
Jyveafk said:
Phone as standard on US Tabs.
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+1 that would be bomb
Ditto: phone as standard part of US Galaxy Tab.
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i want to be able to use my Galaxy Tab as a datalogger/basic tuner for the custom ECU running the engine in my car. (i would actually pay a dev 'decent' money to make something like this, needs to communicate with a BT RS-232 serial adapter, and the software can probably be ported from the OpenSource Linux program)
but in the realm of things that more than ~50 people will use... (thousands if it worked on any android device)
a VNC client with a small section of the screen dedicated to a trackpad with left and right click buttons and the ability to customize a small handful of keyboard buttons that are always available would be nice...
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+1
Also app to compose music, like the ipad has.
Since the phone on the US Tabs was obviously determined by the carriers, and thus out of Google or Samsung's control, I'd like to see the Daily Briefing become customizable. The ability to add my own news source(s), the ability to remove the stock section, ect...
coolairG1 said:
+1
Also app to compose music, like the ipad has.
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Part 1
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Hiukg5A1Qvk&feature=mfu_in_order&list=UL
Part 2
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SlfnStW5V1s&feature=mfu_in_order&list=UL
Part 3
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=A-KjlofNSuE&feature=mfu_in_order&list=UL
Something to start you off.
crazy talk said:
a VNC client with a small section of the screen dedicated to a trackpad with left and right click buttons and the ability to customize a small handful of keyboard buttons that are always available would be nice...
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AndroidVNC?
or GMote?
raqball said:
Since the phone on the US Tabs was obviously determined by the carriers, and thus out of Google or Samsung's control, I'd like to see the Daily Briefing become customizable. The ability to add my own news source(s), the ability to remove the stock section, ect...
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And change the colour of that ugly ass application. It comes in different horrible shades based on who your carrier is. I'd actually consider using it if it weren't some neon abortion.
Galaxy Tab said:
I have the ear of some pretty senior people at Samsung, who knows, one of these ideas could become a reality one day!
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I've got a couple of suggestions for apps for the senior people at Samsung.
#1 How about an Android Market app for Galaxy Tabs sold in Dubai. Or a massive warning on the box that it doesn't come with Android Market, despite the press release for Galaxy Tab not indicating that Android Market is market specific and the Samsung UAE website showing photos of the Android Market icon on the Galaxy Tab:
http://www.samsung.com/ae/flash/p2main/low/main_KV_low_01.jpg
http://www.samsung.com/ae/system/consumer/product/2010/10/24/gt_p1000cwaxsg/5_01.jpg
#2 How about an augmented reality system. Kind of like that one described on the Samsung UAE website at http://www.samsung.com/ae/consumer/...XSG/index.idx?pagetype=prd_detail&tab=feature, but that can't be installed because it the requires Android Market app.
Those would be two ideal apps for Galaxy Tab.
Phone as standard on the us version is a must.
Agree that the Daily Briefing app is cool. Very cool actually... being able to customize it would be nice.
Have we mentioned the phone thing? ... 30 day return policies sure are nice.
I'd like a nice app for google books, specifically the 'my library' part. There are a number of good book manager apps in the market, but none of them sync or integrate with google books. Then there's one or two apps that do sync with google books, but they don't have the other functionality I'm looking for.
What it needs to do is:
Sync with Google Books, not just the full book list, but individual shelves, please.
ISBN/ISSN search, from keyboard or barcode scan (maybe even integrate google goggles to recognize the cover)
Maybe a cover search.
Text search inside books (can just pipe the results from google books)
If it has a nice UI, even better, but that's not the top priority IMHO.
ConceptVBS said:
AndroidVNC?
or GMote?
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PocketCloud
Galaxy Tab said:
I've been doing some work with Samsung, putting the Galaxy Tab through its paces.
I've just been asked to dream up my ideal Galaxy Tab application! I've got a million and one ideas, but wondering what you guys thought?
I have the ear of some pretty senior people at Samsung, who knows, one of these ideas could become a reality one day!
So what will it be? An integrated Email and Text messaging system? A battery life managing piece of software? What would YOU like from Samsung/Google?
I also got to meet the CEO of Google for this task. More about that here: bilal-mobiler.blogspot.com/
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I have only one request.... as others have said... please let us use it as a phone.
Have them post some anonymous post with a simple method that allows us to do that.
Otherwise, I am not keeping it.
A podcast player that knows to jump to the next chapter inside a podcast, and diplay each chapter info or image. Like the iTunes on iPad.
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xexes said:
I have only one request.... as others have said... please let us use it as a phone.
Have them post some anonymous post with a simple method that allows us to do that.
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I don't think it's that simple - at least not for CDMA devices.
I can only see that the carriers who have decided that this Tab can't be used as a phone, and have forced Samsung into this. Quite why they've decided this, I've no idea, but since I suppose that they feel that since the iPad can't have voice, the Tab doesn't need it either.
I suppose Samsung could release a network unlocked GSM Tab which supports both TMo and AT&T frequencies, but if they do this they may alienate the carriers who then won't carry Samsungs smartphone range, which let's face facts, is the bread and butter of their mobile business.
What you really need to be doing is boycotting the Tab in the US until the carriers see sense and allow you to use them as a phone.
We may pay more for our Tabs without a contract over here in the UK, but at least they are fully functional!
Regards,
Dave
brendand said:
#1 How about an Android Market app for Galaxy Tabs sold in Dubai. Or a massive warning on the box that it doesn't come with Android Market, despite the press release for Galaxy Tab not indicating that Android Market is market specific and the Samsung UAE website showing photos of the Android Market icon on the Galaxy Tab:
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FWIW, I don't think that its Samsungs fault that there is no Android Market in Middle-Eastern Tabs - it seems that this is the case for all Android devices (see here).
I know that's about as useful to you as a chocolate teapot, and I fully agree that there should be at least some obvious warning that there is no Market on the device.
Regards,
Dave
For those who can phone...
1. Voice recognition
What really is missing from my perspective is voice recognition since we need an ear phone to speak.
It makes no sense to have to take out the phone from the pocket to place a call.
We should be able to perform this from the ear phone.
2. Task manager
It makes me crazy no to be able to go to an application from the default task manager. We can only kill apps.
3. Google maps and Contact Manager should be integrated
4. Calendar tab should appear in Phone application and integrated with Contacts Manager.
Since I am using that device for professional purpose I am more interested in real life application than in Asphalt game.
foxmeister said:
I don't think it's that simple - at least not for CDMA devices.
I can only see that the carriers who have decided that this Tab can't be used as a phone, and have forced Samsung into this. Quite why they've decided this, I've no idea, but since I suppose that they feel that since the iPad can't have voice, the Tab doesn't need it either.
I suppose Samsung could release a network unlocked GSM Tab which supports both TMo and AT&T frequencies, but if they do this they may alienate the carriers who then won't carry Samsungs smartphone range, which let's face facts, is the bread and butter of their mobile business.
What you really need to be doing is boycotting the Tab in the US until the carriers see sense and allow you to use them as a phone.
We may pay more for our Tabs without a contract over here in the UK, but at least they are fully functional!
Regards,
Dave
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No offense Dave, but I'm talking about US GSM phones and really don't want a lecture about what I should or should not be doing.
I am quite aware that UK/Euro phones are fully functional.
The guy asked for suggestions ... I gave him one.
Hey,
I just saw this today on Kickstarter. Sounds pretty interesting and not too expensive. Any opinions? XDA seems like a pretty good home for discussion on something like this methinks.
From site:
"A development board that lets you control devices via USB or over a network using iOS, Android or a PC. Create easy control systems."