I tried installing handwriting recognition for sms (cant remember the programm), but removed it because it the screen wasn't responsive enough. I could only write a letter if i pushed down with my finger and not just with the tip. This is the same in gesture search which isnt so bad as you are only typing a couple of letters.
I've always had handwriting recognition since my SE P800 then P900 & X1. and it has always been really easy to use and responsive. was quite dissapointed that the X10 didnt have it as a standard feature for SMS out the box. Typing out msgs is a pain. Also tried the upgrade to the HTC keyboard which was better, but it says that after installing it, it could copy your passwords etc. So not to keen on using it.
Has anyone tried any handwriting recognition apps after removing the screen protector? or know of any good Apps?
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Try using SlideIT. You slide your fingers over the letters and it works out which word you want to type. I can probably text quicker on my phone more than I can type on my keyboard. There's another product currently in beta test called swipe which will do the same thing. This thing make me smile every time I use it!!
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Usually handwriting is not working (or at least not well enough) on capacitive touch.
On resistive is another matter
So, X10 has capacitive so, no, won't work as you expect it
One thing I do miss from my G900 is the handwriting recognition. I became quite expert with it and could certainly have written this text faster on my G900 than I have on my X10 !
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tuxStyle said:
Usually handwriting is not working (or at least not well enough) on capacitive touch.
On resistive is another matter
So, X10 has capacitive so, no, won't work as you expect it
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So why all the hype about capacitive touch? for me its a big step backwards not having decent handrwriting recognition ability. I also could write alot quicker using it, after all whats more natural than writing. When the X1 came out with a physical keyboard I was quite dissapointed, it made the phone thicker than needed and gathered dust.
tris1979 said:
So why all the hype about capacitive touch? for me its a big step backwards not having decent handrwriting recognition ability. I also could write alot quicker using it, after all whats more natural than writing. When the X1 came out with a physical keyboard I was quite dissapointed, it made the phone thicker than needed and gathered dust.
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It seems to be what the public wants (or has got used to) I quite agree that handwriting recognition is far easier than touchscreen keyboards. My first thought on the iPhone was that it was inferior because it did not have the ability to do handwriting recognition, but the text input on the iPhone seems to have become industry standard...
Well, i have an 5800 XM nokia with resistive.
It has a stylus for handwriting ... i've never used it.
Also, on resistive the touch is not so ... smooth lets say.
You really have to press the screen
With capacitive a light touch is enough.
If you ask me, i prefer capacitive.
Way easier to use it ...
tuxStyle said:
Well, i have an 5800 XM nokia with resistive.
It has a stylus for handwriting ... i've never used it.
Also, on resistive the touch is not so ... smooth lets say.
You really have to press the screen
With capacitive a light touch is enough.
If you ask me, i prefer capacitive.
Way easier to use it ...
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I find it the complete opposite with resistive I could use my nail, with capacitive I have to use my finger tip and press hard, which doesnt make good for quick writing. Ive had 3 SE phones with resistive. and my x10 & my walkman have capacitive.
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Im loving the ameo and the gorgeous vga screen especially when i use the truevga program.
Just have 1 wish.
Is there anyway to get the onscreen keyboard, when using truevga, to be the same size n scale as when its set to its biggest setting without truevga?
I love typing using the onscreen keyboard especially using my fingers (getting the hang of it, hehe) as i find the add on hardware keyboard a pain to use, never seems to keep up, misses letters out etc. I never carry it about with me, and i get more and more frustrated the more i use it.
Any help would be spot on and appreciated. Cheers. (apologies if this is covered ianother topic, i searched but couldnt find any answers)
Many thanks
Have you tried Resco Keyboard? From what I remember it works perfectly in VGA. Worth a try!
Yup, Resco keyboard is perfect for truevga mode, although I hardly ever use the onscreen keys anymore.
More importantly, is there a *proper* dialpad skin for truevga mode? I have tried some hacks (vjbigphone, some hacks from China that modifies 2 dll files) and I'm left with a feeling of "what were they thinking at microsoft allowing only 240x320?".
Thats the chappy!
Thanks alot, resco keyboard is spot on, just what i was looking for.
You never know maybe Microsoft will get it right and include things like, VGA Support in their next os? hehe!
Thanks again
Can you guys post a screenshot of how Resco Keyboard looks in VGA mode?
Edit: Thanks and never mind. Going to install the trial now.
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Have you tried Resco Keyboard? From what I remember it works perfectly in VGA. Worth a try!
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You could also use HappyTapping Keyboard posted here in the forum. Comes with various skins.
SBS Keyboard...hmmmm full screen.
Resco Keyboard was ok but ive found the because of the number keys being across the top, the keys are actually smaller than the without TrueVGA standard display keyboard with the bigger keys.
I am however having a play with this http://www.spbsoftwarehouse.com/products/fsk/screenshots.html?en
Its not too bad, full screen so is easy to type, im not sure if its won me round yet, altho the price is pretty good $9.99!
Its ok for texting, and i havent really tried it with anything else, with things like excel tho i can see it possibly being a problem as it does take up the full screen and transfers the text across in a big chunk.
I like the idea tho.
See what you think!
I tried out Resco Keyboard. It is a good QWERT keyboard. But later I found another which is way way better. It's also a QWERT keyboard but you need not type at the exact location of the key. It group all the 26 letters into 6 grouping. As long as you touch the grouping it will give you the right word 95 % of the time. 5% of the time you may have to choose the other "hint words" which could be formed with those grouping. Of course if you type it like the way you use normal keyboard, which is to exactly touch one of the tiny 26 keys, it will give you exactly what you want like normal keyboard without the need to choose from the hint word.
It supporst VGA. There are a few different versions, some allowing you to use yout thumb to type. In all case, I was able to do very fast typing without the stylus on VGA screen.
The free version can be downloaded here: www.free.tengo.net
The various commercial versions here: www.tengo.net
Enjoy
thanks eaglesteve i will look into it. to be honest ive gone back to the standard non vga setting now using the bigger setting on the standard screen keyboard as to me its the easiest most natural way to type and is the least frustrating!
altho if there was a way of having the non vga bigger keyboard in truevga then id be happier! hehe. cheers guys.
tomchap said:
thanks eaglesteve i will look into it. to be honest ive gone back to the standard non vga setting now using the bigger setting on the standard screen keyboard as to me its the easiest most natural way to type and is the least frustrating!
altho if there was a way of having the non vga bigger keyboard in truevga then id be happier! hehe. cheers guys.
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Hi Tomchap,
No, there is no need to go back to QVGA if small keyboard is your only concern. I had the same reaction as you when I first went VGA.
VGA or QVGA aside, having to press at the PRECISE location of each of the keys is a mistake prone and stressful. That's why TenGO is good.
Tell me what you think after you've tried it.
Cheers
Thanks for the recommendations, im currently trialing Tengo Free, and its a bit of a learning curve but im going to stick at it. From initial first impressions I would still have to say that I prefer the Large Keys Keyboard Configuration of the standard VGA keyboard at the moment but will see how i get on.
I really want to like the VGA mode so will see.
If there was some kind of halfscreen keyboard that looks just like the Large Key standard keyboard then that would be spot on.
Thanks for all your help so far.
have u tried the iPhone keyboard?
it works great and is free
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=296455
killershot20 said:
have u tried the iPhone keyboard?
it works great and is free
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=296455
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I tried this on my Athena but it didn't work. Did you install both CABs on your Athena or only the first?
I keep trying to switch to the new keyboard but it never shows up. I always get the default. Did you run into this?
Same Problem
I get the same thing, Ive installed everything as stated, copied the relevant BMP files across to My documents but it doesnt seem to work.
I find that when you click on HAPPYTAPPINGKEYBOARD and then OPTIONS it seems to be looking on the MICRODRIVE instead as if you select MYDOCUMENTS nothing is displayed?
Will keep looking at the forums and see what i can find out. The files are there, just doesnt appear that the programs looking at them.
Best one I found
Try dynatype keyboard. I was looking for a keyboard for vga and qvga and had tried all mentioned here. a few minutes with dynatype and I went to purchase it!. The free trial option is very annoying as it keeps asking you to buy the keyboard so know this in advance.
The options this keyboard has is fantastic! Try it and look at the options, play with it setting the keyboard to how YOU like it. Its very very nice. You can buy it at pocketgear.com or handango.
tomchap said:
Resco Keyboard was ok but ive found the because of the number keys being across the top, the keys are actually smaller than the without TrueVGA standard display keyboard with the bigger keys.
I am however having a play with this http://www.spbsoftwarehouse.com/products/fsk/screenshots.html?en
Its not too bad, full screen so is easy to type, im not sure if its won me round yet, altho the price is pretty good $9.99!
Its ok for texting, and i havent really tried it with anything else, with things like excel tho i can see it possibly being a problem as it does take up the full screen and transfers the text across in a big chunk.
I like the idea tho.
See what you think!
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That is how the full screen keyboard on my Nokia N800 works, and it works great. Using both thumbs, I can almost type as fast as with a hardware keyboard, with very few mistakes.
On my Athena WM5 Dutch I am not able to activate a third party onscreen keyboard.
I remember having seen something about that but could not find the thread. Is there a problem with these type of keyboards and WM5?
tomchap said:
Thanks for the recommendations, im currently trialing Tengo Free, and its a bit of a learning curve but im going to stick at it. From initial first impressions I would still have to say that I prefer the Large Keys Keyboard Configuration of the standard VGA keyboard at the moment but will see how i get on.
I really want to like the VGA mode so will see.
If there was some kind of halfscreen keyboard that looks just like the Large Key standard keyboard then that would be spot on.
Thanks for all your help so far.
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You may also want to look at this keyboard by one of our members here.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=321712
I was actually looking at Fingertouch
http://www.teksoftco.com/index.php?section=fingertouch [/url],
It seems a very good product (for the money) but the PocketCM seems more suitable for my needs.
FingerTouch and HappyTapping...
Well ive been using fingertouch for a few days now and I have to say I think its the best one so far. Apart from the DELETE or BACKSPACE key bein next to the F OFF (oeer is that trying to tell me something, hehe!) Key once you get used to that its fine.
I really rate this keyboard and I can type pretty quick on it. HappyTappingKeyboard is also very good, these are the keyboards I use the most.
Thanks for all your help guys, and any more keyboards that you discover, post here!
Cheers
tomchap said:
Thanks for the recommendations, im currently trialing Tengo Free, and its a bit of a learning curve but im going to stick at it. From initial first impressions I would still have to say that I prefer the Large Keys Keyboard Configuration of the standard VGA keyboard at the moment but will see how i get on.
I really want to like the VGA mode so will see.
If there was some kind of halfscreen keyboard that looks just like the Large Key standard keyboard then that would be spot on.
Thanks for all your help so far.
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Try also Tengo Thumb and Tengo 2.1 instead of free Tengo. Tengo2.1 offers 3 options, one of which is the regular standard keyboard.
Tengo Thumb is very easy to use with the Thumb, if you do not mind the screen being more covered up by the keyboard. I am able to type very fast with my Thmub on Tengo2.1 but if you have very big finger this may be more difficult.
whats a good keyboard to use like a iphone keyboard and i tried one but it didnt work? any help advice?
If you're talking about an on-screen keyboard I would go for TouchPal. Just google it and you'll find it.
Now the new version asks to buy it but you can still use it and it's the only one I use .
There's this one which isn't too bad -
http://www.pocketcm.com/keyboard.php
I mainly use the HTC Touch keyboard which you can find in this thread -
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=341867
If you decide to use both, you'll have to install the PCM one first or it will mess up the HTC one...for me at least.
TouchPal is an awesome keyboard that I just recently came across
http://www.cootek.com/
There was a link to it somewhere here on XDA and they were saying it's well worth taking a little time to get used to and after using it I fully agree.
My personal favorite so far is SlideIt. It's incredible but it has one major drawback, it's $40
http://www.mobiletextinput.com/Product/SlideIT/DownloadDemoPC.php
It's nice because you just drag your stylus or finger over the letters of the word, you don't have to be exact and it has excellent predictive capabilities.
By far the touchkey board is the best!!!! I had a black like it but it had something called x9 and i hated it!!! But touchkey board is the best!!!!! Works better then touchpal just because it was designed with touchflo in mind..
I use Resco Keyboard with the iSkin and it works great.
Dear WinMo lovers, i need some advise
I am a UK vodafone customer and my contract is due for renewal. I am stuck picking BB storm or Xperia or getting Touch HD through a website which i have to wait for, i love xperia but it has some drawbacks for as follows
Is the screen too narrow? How is the text inputing using only the touch screen?
I will be gratefull for any advise and information.
It is pretty small using just the touchscreen. Not easy if you have bad eyes or shaky hands or if you are sitting in a train. I only use the keyboard now.
You can download some alternative software keyboards which are more touch screen user friendly than the standard built in one though.
The t9 input is fine for use one handed and teh other keyboards are usable. The built in microsoft one neccssitates the use of the stylus. For one handed use the only real option is the on screen T9 and for two handed you can use the hardware keyboard.
Thanks a lot everyone then it's a no go for me. the storm either. i guess i am stuck with my old curve 8310 then.
Hmm but u can download better on screen keyboards pretty easily and have it automatically switch to it everytime the phone starts up
soleimam said:
Is the screen too narrow? How is the text inputing using only the touch screen?
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But why would you want to use an on-screen keyboard when the sliding QWERTY one can get the job done way faster, whenever you want to write something?
I'm seriously thinking about buying an X1 and the on-screen keyboard's usability is the last thing to consider.
The Blackstone keyboards from the other thread here are a huge improvement over standard.
Just install the Touch HD keyboards - they're already available for the Xperia (I have them on my Xperia). Beautiful to use, much better than the awful standard one it comes with.
So basically if you're thinking about keyboards then the Xperia wins hands-down. It has a hardware QWERTY, but can run the Touch HD ones if you want it to.
I got my X10 2 days ago. Previously i was using iPhone. Everybody know iPhone user interface is simply awesome. I like X10 as well. the issue currently i am facing is that when i type my messages some times i missed the letter and i have to press the letter again. specially letter 'a'. I am using android keyboard. Is this issue is because of keyboard or it's software issue. i know touch is perfect because i can see zoom in image of the letter. I also tried to disable sound, vibrate, dictionary etc. but no luck so far.
though in landscape it works fine.
Can anybody guide me how can i solve this issue?
Thanks,
I had the same problem with both the Android and standard keyboards.
The only way I fixed it was to install the HTC Keyboard. Works fantastic and it has a calibration tool so you can make it even more accurate than it already is.
Search for HTC X10 keyboard on google, I think there is a tutorial on esato or se-nse.
I'm afraid that this has become old news when it comes to the x10.
At the moment I can only suggest a workaround or two.
I have installed the HTC keyboard which I find very accurate. It can also be customized to allow the volume controls to control the cursor whilst typing.
Personally I find this to be the best solution.
Better keyboard is a paid app that can be downloaded from the market and offers another good solution.
I have heard in posts that swipe keyboard is another good alternative.
Finally I have heard that upgrading to the latest firmware available may help things. I debranded and upgraded to 1.6 but I still used the HTC as its familiar.
Another option is the Smart Keyboard Pro
yo try the app called shape writer. Its simply amazing, u will love it
HTC keyboard.. easy & free
Smart Keyborad PRO & Swype are also good options
actually the true problem to this is the sluggishness of the touchscreen which you'll experience in most other applications as well. the only solution is to type slower since no matter which keyboard you try you will always experience some random unset delay after each key before it actually registers on the screen. that by itself will hinder your ability to type fast and will introduce additional typos.
If you use SlideIT keyboard then you won't have any problems with sluggishness. ( which I've not experienced anyway). Its not as attractive add swype, but I find it much more accurate.
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using SlideIT keyboard.
You can have landscape size buttons in portrait with 'Big Buttons' keyboard from the market, it takes a chunk of screen but your typing will be perfect
Thanks a lot, i just trid "big buttons", love it, the best one for people like me who are not very handy with their fingers
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I have the HTC mod,
the problem is i installed it but i still see the same old keyboard. But i notice some improvement.
Can someone give me a screenshot of their phone using the HTC keyboard ime mod?
big button seem to freeze me.
wrongfeifong said:
I have the HTC mod,
the problem is i installed it but i still see the same old keyboard. But i notice some improvement.
Can someone give me a screenshot of their phone using the HTC keyboard ime mod?
big button seem to freeze me.
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make sure you correctly enable the htc_ime mod keyboard from the list of keyboards in the input method options.
to bring up the input method option, when your vr keyboard is visible, long press any area where you input text and select htc ime mod.
If the htc keyboard is not available from that list, go to settings, locale and text and tick htc keyboard.
members.optusnet.com.au/kelvin.dudd/htc.jpg
try better keyboard..
it's good too..
metcard said:
I had the same problem with both the Android and standard keyboards.
The only way I fixed it was to install the HTC Keyboard. Works fantastic and it has a calibration tool so you can make it even more accurate than it already is.
Search for HTC X10 keyboard on google, I think there is a tutorial on esato or se-nse.
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Thanks bro.. it works fantastic.. i was a bit worried that m i the only one facing this issue hope SE will fix this issue soon..
Mano1982 said:
HTC keyboard.. easy & free
Smart Keyborad PRO & Swype are also good options
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any tutorial link for swipe keyboard. Can we use swipe and HTC at the same time?
lifeflayer said:
actually the true problem to this is the sluggishness of the touchscreen which you'll experience in most other applications as well. the only solution is to type slower since no matter which keyboard you try you will always experience some random unset delay after each key before it actually registers on the screen. that by itself will hinder your ability to type fast and will introduce additional typos.
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It does not matter if you type slow. it's some other issue i can't figure out the reason maybe SE know it well. you can saw a issue which can't be replicated
I guess the problems of typing are related also to the protective screen
Mugur
http://mugur-ionescu.ro/tag/xperia
imugur said:
I guess the problems of typing are related also to the protective screen
Mugur
http://mugur-ionescu.ro/tag/xperia
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i don't think so. because other keyboards are working fine. the problem is with the firmware
I'm using shapewriter keyboard (free on the android market) ... perfect alternative to the swype keyboard & similar as well for those who arent able to get their hands on swype due to its limited beta release
Try ThickButton - it's pretty awesome - predicts what you want to type, and expands the size of appropriate keys, making the others smaller... You can also select how much they'll expand by (esp if you have really fat fingers, or type with your toes.)
Okay, now this happens regardless of the OS on the phone - Android, Windows Mobile, or Windows Phone.
Basically, when I start trying to type quickly on the HD2, it can't keep up and starts missing out letters etc. but when typing with the same speed on another phone (e.g. an iPhone or a Galaxy SII) they have no trouble keeping up.
Now, is this a fault with my phone or is it that the touch screen just uses older technology and isn't as responsive?
try to use a "multi touch" keyboard for whatever platform you are using and see if that helps.
i think NO such keyboard exists for WM6.5.
i KNOW several such keyboards exist for Android...the HTC Sense keyboard included in most Sense-based Android roms for the HD2 is NOT multi touch, look for "gingerbread keyboard" on the market place. it also works on froyo roms!
for non-Sense-based Android roms for the HD2, most of them come with the stock gingerbread keyboard out of the box, which IS multi touch. if you are using froyo, see previous paragraph!
i think WP7 keyboard is already multi touch.
finally, the HD2 screen hardware can only handle up to TWO touches, which should be ok for typing fast, provided the keyboard is multi touch.
and, if you are already using a multi touch keyboard but desire a bit more responsiveness, consider disabling prediction, auto correction, typewriter sound, and vibration. some keyboards also support "calibration", so you can run that to see if it can learn your finger tap patterns to tune the keyboard's response.
Thanks for the information.
I've already tried the HTC Sense keyboard (currently running Sense 3.5), Gingerbread keyboard, and ICS keyboard, but none of them seem any better than each other.
I have tried calibrating the Sense keyboard, but you say that it doesn't support multi-touch anyway so it doesn't seem like it will be of much use. I don't use vibration feedback or the typewriter sound ever, but I'd find it hard not to use prediction or auto-correction.
From instinct I'd say that this seems far more likely to be a hardware problem than a software problem, so I think it is probably just that the HD2's screen is only 2-point multi-touch, whereas other phones I've tried like the Galaxy SII are 4+. So there's probably not really anything I can do to change this.
Thanks anyway though
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Okay, now this happens regardless of the OS on the phone - Android, Windows Mobile, or Windows Phone.
Basically, when I start trying to type quickly on the HD2, it can't keep up and starts missing out letters etc. but when typing with the same speed on another phone (e.g. an iPhone or a Galaxy SII) they have no trouble keeping up.
Now, is this a fault with my phone or is it that the touch screen just uses older technology and isn't as responsive?
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hi, i had the same problem before. using swiftkey X will help alot.
otherwise, try to unbox heptic feedback(vibration) on your keyboard...since its (in fact) the vibrations that cant keep up with us fast typers
btw, my girlfriend loves my fast fingers
123Me said:
hi, i had the same problem before. using swiftkey X will help alot.
otherwise, try to unbox heptic feedback(vibration) on your keyboard...since its (in fact) the vibrations that cant keep up with us fast typers
btw, my girlfriend loves my fast fingers
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I bet she does
I actually bought Swiftkey X when it was on sale a while back - I wasn't amazingly impressed but I'll try it again now. Thanks for reminding me.
And yeah, I don't like using vibration on the keyboard anyway so I keep that turned off. Probably saves battery too.