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Wifi vs. data package

i just got the data plan (i got it for free until the 20th) and i really like it...i've relied on wifi throught all my ppc's and it's served well, but it sux being in an area not finding an unsecured connection...anyways, does anybody know how i can keepw wifi alive when i turn my display off? that's wat i love about the data plan, it keeps the internet on EVEN when the display is OFF...i couldn't get this to work on my 8125 and now not on my 8525..can anybody please help me fix this!!? thnx

anybody?.....

Didn't I reply to this already? Was it in another subforum?
EDIT: Oh yeah now I remember... your the guy that made way too many posts over in the cingular forums... did you get banned?
Don't forget to look at what I posted already about the keep internet sharing on and wifi... have a look around.
And also you can dupe ATT and get the MediaMax plan for 20 bucks if your willing to only use wap.cingular. saved me a ton of money
EDIT#2: yeah here's the other thread: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=341930

uhhh i never read that other post...maybe if you had better directions (or didn't even that answer the question at all) that woulda been better....no need for being stupid now buddy

here ya go smartie... use the search
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=341398&highlight=internet+sharing

intrglctcrevfnk said:
here ya go smartie... use the search
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=341398&highlight=internet+sharing
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found that, looks useless smart one..thnx for trying to be a genious tho

wow... you read all of that in 3 minutes? you're the genius here!

i said i saw it befor smart guy...and thnx for the compliments

Ok. I feel better. Guess we got off on the wrong foot.
What I am trying to say is that it might be possible to use the mortscript program to keep the wifi from going into standby:
"Share&KeepSharingViaUSB.mscr" Mortscript
This script is included in the attached .zip file To use this script you must first download and install MortScript from here:
http://www.sto-helit.de/index.php?mo...=view&entry=65
or here:
http://www.pocketpcfreewares.com/en/index.php?soft=1448
This is an adaptation of Xiou's Share&KeepSharing script.
It turns off Wifi radio, starts hacked version of Internet Sharing app, connects and turns WiFi radio on. Once one valid connection has been made, reconnects if Internet Sharing enabled status status changes to disabled (ie. a disconnect occurs). Also, keeps device from going into standby mode, to prevent loss of WiFi connectivity.
It's heavily documented so it should be fairly easy to view, modify and understand by looking at it in a text editor.
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So, it might, and I stress might, be possible to use this to keep your phone in a constant state of wifi. However you might not be able to put your phone to sleep.
It applies to internet sharing but could be applicable to your problem.
It might be a hardware issue where the wifi chipset is forced into disconnecting while sleeping.
Seems like when the HTC guys engineered this that they knew the wifi would kill the battery life so they hardwired it to disconnect when put into standby.
It looks like it's not easily done (looking here and at cingular forums). Perhaps the guy at cingy that said to untick the auto disconnect might have a lead.
However I am a genius, but only at the minimum IQ score..
Good Luck

lol kk, thnx for ur help but i think i'm convinced that i shouldn't keep it on as it does seem to waste battery power..thnx for ur help and srry for acting a bit off

just wanted to thank intrglctcrevfnk for the tip about the mediamax bundle. Just added that 19.99 plan to my account, configuered the phone and now have unlimited access.

Hero Wifi router???

I have a touch pro and going to upgrade to a hero or touch pro 2. i really like the hero however i am a heavy user of wm Wifi router on the touch pro so i can use the phone as a hot spot. i know the touch pro 2 can use this program, however is there a program like this for android? if so how good is it. WM wifi router is amazing, only thing bad is how bad it drains the battery but thats expected because of what its doing.

I think this is what you're looking for:
http://code.google.com/p/android-wifi-tether/wiki/FAQ

THANKS!!! thats exactly what i was looking for. even looks similar to WMwifi-router
anyone used it to see how well it works? if this works well im ditching the touch pro 2 and Windows mobile for the android and hero!!!

Works as expected, with decent battery consumption. If you look a few threads behind this one some people are having problems with the older release, install the latest build.
If you're on Sprint you'll have to wait till rooting is available for the CDMA hero.
Good luck

yeah im getting it for sprint....what do you mean by waiting for rooting on CDMA...those programs are only for the GSM version of the hero?

No, you need root access to change protected settings/files set by HTC. If you're a windows guy, think of it as administrator privileges.
Since the Sprint version has just been released, getting root access has not yet been discovered. We are all fairly certain that it will be, but it is a risky procedure that can brick your phone (I'm assuming that since you're here on xda you've already considered that).
Read the forums here for a bit and the answer will come

You could always try PdaNet for Android. It cost $29 after the trial is up, but doesn't require rooting. Not sure how well it works though since I haven't tried it.

I have never been able to get this working.
I have HTC Hero rooted (Android 1.5).
I have installed Wireless Thether 1.52.
I can run Wireless Tether noi prolbems.
Both my laptops can connect and get an IP address and Wireless Tehther shows them as connected.
However, I cannot connect to the internet. No routing appears to take place at all. I connot even ping the wireless interface of the hero from the laptop.
Anyone else had this or know the answer ?
USB tethering works beautifully but I would like to get this working too just because it's so cool

I'm Sprint guy as well, can't wait for this to be available.

sprint guy here too...looking for a way to simply tether the damn thing ...even with a cable would be nice??

dsjr2006 said:
You could always try PdaNet for Android. It cost $29 after the trial is up, but doesn't require rooting. Not sure how well it works though since I haven't tried it.
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Perfect. I used PdaNet on my Winmo phone and now that I have the Hero, this will be great.

I just checked. PDANet on android does not tether over wifi - only over USB which the Hero can do anyway.

Is there any option avaliable for phones which are not rooted?

Like TheBrit said, you can do this if you have the usb connected. Go under settings->wireless controls then check Mobile Network Sharing.

Ozym - exactly the same thing happens on my Hero. Gave up in the end.

To All -
Unless you would like to fork over the extra $15 a month to Sprint, simply going to settings->wireless controls then checking Mobile Network Sharing, does not work. At least it doesnt work for me any longer. I've been using HTC for the past year and a half (original Touch and then Touch Pro on unlimited data plan) neither had problems using Internet Sharing, but once I got the Hero and tried using the new Mobile Network Sharing all I get is "Failure to connect, Error code 65 and 67" I even called to ask why this feature isn't allowed any longer, the only response I got was that it must have been aglitch on my other phones, and that this feature costs extra. Damn I can not wait to finaly get ROOT access to this Sprint Hero. I miss my ability to jump on the internet anywhere I go.

ozym said:
I have never been able to get this working.
I have HTC Hero rooted (Android 1.5).
I have installed Wireless Thether 1.52.
I can run Wireless Tether noi prolbems.
Both my laptops can connect and get an IP address and Wireless Tehther shows them as connected.
However, I cannot connect to the internet. No routing appears to take place at all. I connot even ping the wireless interface of the hero from the laptop.
Anyone else had this or know the answer ?
USB tethering works beautifully but I would like to get this working too just because it's so cool
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It works fine on my Magic and Hero. Go in to settings of wifi tether by pressing menu and enable access control and also consider applyinng afterword by pressing menu again and apply. SECONDLY YOU MMAY MAKE IT SECURE BY GOING INTO MENU AND SETTINGS WHERE YOU CAN PUT YOUR OWN PASSPHRASE ETC.
i HOPE IT WORKS FOR YOU.

IMHO, the only "problem" with Wireless Tether is that it drains the battery very quickly. So quickly in fact that plugging it into the mains will not stop the battery from discharging!
Regards,
Dave

wotlos said:
To All -
Unless you would like to fork over the extra $15 a month to Sprint, simply going to settings->wireless controls then checking Mobile Network Sharing, does not work. At least it doesnt work for me any longer. I've been using HTC for the past year and a half (original Touch and then Touch Pro on unlimited data plan) neither had problems using Internet Sharing, but once I got the Hero and tried using the new Mobile Network Sharing all I get is "Failure to connect, Error code 65 and 67" I even called to ask why this feature isn't allowed any longer, the only response I got was that it must have been aglitch on my other phones, and that this feature costs extra. Damn I can not wait to finaly get ROOT access to this Sprint Hero. I miss my ability to jump on the internet anywhere I go.
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all the winmobile phones can go on because they were all hacked into the cooked roms.... meaning it was opened up for you.... NORMALLY you cannot do this with ANY phone, so asking sprint or telling them that you had it back then was not such a good idea IMO.
and for the hero users now, of course they do not have it...we barely just got this phone. myself, i came from winmobile... i been with windows all my life and i loved it. but since the hero came out, i loved this phone and the android os.

foxmeister said:
IMHO, the only "problem" with Wireless Tether is that it drains the battery very quickly. So quickly in fact that plugging it into the mains will not stop the battery from discharging!
Regards,
Dave
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I will second that!
By the way has anyone successfully used Bluetooth tethering? I couldnt figure it out. This way could be better on battery issue.
Regards.

Tethering built into 2.1 RUU for the Sprint Hero has

Hey guys I rarely, if ever, post anything, but I made a discovery yesterday that I just tested and wanted to let everyone in on it. I have the **Leaked** but now **Official** "RUU_Hero_C_Sprint_2.27.651.5_R_signed_release" installed on my phone. My phone had not been rooted and I decided to upgraded from 1.5 to 2.1 yesterday (just couldn't get myself to pull the trigger sooner). While I molesting the new features I went to mount the phone as a disk drive and noticed there were some additional options. Once you plug in the USB into the phone, access the pull-down menu from the status bar and press "Charge Only". You will be greeted with another menu that, among other things, has an option for "Internet Sharing" select this and the phone will install some software on your computer. After that your computer will be able to utilize your phone as a modem. Now I haven't tried this over just a 3G connection as I live out in the country and my service is terrrrrible out here, but what I was able to confirm is that this works over WiFi with no problems. I turned off the Wifi card on my laptop and enabled the Wifi on the phone. A few moments later I got the connection indicator on my laptop (Windows Vista) and away we go. I posted this using the connection. Can anyone confirm this works over 3G?
Screen shots posted below. (Sorry about the blurry pics, I don't have the steadiest hands)

did you update with the RUU?
FYI, this is not "wifi" tethering, it's "wired" tethering.
good to know internet sharing was in the final!

If I understand your question correctly, yeah I updated with the RUU but I wasn't really interested in rooting the phone.

Yes it works, but you need to change your PRI

tstack77 said:
Yes it works, but you need to change your PRI
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In other words, no it does not work if you ran the RUU. You would have to be rooted, flash an Eris based ROM, and then update using the SprintUpdate2.zip Damageless posted.

abcdfv said:
In other words, no it does not work if you ran the RUU. You would have to be rooted, flash an Eris based ROM, and then update using the SprintUpdate2.zip Damageless posted.
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I was really hoping to teach the lad to search (twas his first post )

tstack77 said:
I was really hoping to teach the lad to search (twas his first post )
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Aside from "Flashing an Eris ROM breaks your PRI" he wouldn't find much. Sometimes you just gotta let it slide and lend a hand.

Are you guys talking about the same thing he is? He said he ran the RUU and is not rooted. He said he doesn't get good 3g where he lives but what he did was turn off wifi on his laptop and enable it on the phone. He enabled internet sharing and it shared his internet connection with the laptop.
This isn't wifi tethering like we usually describe it, but he is describing a different situation than the one you guys are talking about. Unless I missed something in the posts.

jlem26 said:
Are you guys talking about the same thing he is? He said he ran the RUU and is not rooted. He said he doesn't get good 3g where he lives but what he did was turn off wifi on his laptop and enable it on the phone. He enabled internet sharing and it shared his internet connection with the laptop.
This isn't wifi tethering like we usually describe it, but he is describing a different situation than the one you guys are talking about. Unless I missed something in the posts.
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He was asking if it would work over 3G, as well as wifi.

jlem26 said:
Are you guys talking about the same thing he is? He said he ran the RUU and is not rooted. He said he doesn't get good 3g where he lives but what he did was turn off wifi on his laptop and enable it on the phone. He enabled internet sharing and it shared his internet connection with the laptop.
This isn't wifi tethering like we usually describe it, but he is describing a different situation than the one you guys are talking about. Unless I missed something in the posts.
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You're both right and wrong.
I was assuming that he rooted his phone before updating to 2.1, thought he just made a mistake by adding the ruu part.
And he was asking about 3g tethering since he could do it over wifi.
To answer his question: You cannot tether that way if you ran the official RUU...that is until an exploit is found and you root your phone.
PDAnet will still work for you though

He probably has one of the few Sprint PRI's that allows MNS....bastage.....

Thanks guys, I'll take my laptop to work tomorrow and give it a try with and without PDANet. Thanks for all of the feedback.

What is you PRI number?

Pri version: 2.20_003

I have the same PRI number. How did you get the network sharing to work? Did you download any software?

yeah we need to find out if this new PRI will allow wired tethering, but I don't want to lose root
we need a few people (read: guinea pigs) to test it out

Ok, I got the network sharing via wired tether to work with WIFI. Now if I can get it to work on 3g.
Edit:
I tried to use the 3g network and it will not allow you to wire tether. It will keep popping up error 67 which "Data Call Failure". Boo.

I'm currently trying to figure out where exactly the PRI is stored in a ROM, so I can make update.zip's of different PRI's, to allow tethering.

abcdfv said:
I'm currently trying to figure out where exactly the PRI is stored in a ROM, so I can make update.zip's of different PRI's, to allow tethering.
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I've been digging through for a while now, off and on, trying to find this myself. I PM'd flipz and asked, but haven't received a response, but i'm sure he knows how/if this could be done. I'm very interested if you do find something out, let me know!

registeredmale said:
Hey guys I rarely, if ever, post anything, but I made a discovery yesterday that I just tested and wanted to let everyone in on it. I have the **Leaked** but now **Official** "RUU_Hero_C_Sprint_2.27.651.5_R_signed_release" installed on my phone. My phone had not been rooted and I decided to upgraded from 1.5 to 2.1 yesterday (just couldn't get myself to pull the trigger sooner). While I molesting the new features I went to mount the phone as a disk drive and noticed there were some additional options. Once you plug in the USB into the phone, access the pull-down menu from the status bar and press "Charge Only". You will be greeted with another menu that, among other things, has an option for "Internet Sharing" select this and the phone will install some software on your computer. After that your computer will be able to utilize your phone as a modem. Now I haven't tried this over just a 3G connection as I live out in the country and my service is terrrrrible out here, but what I was able to confirm is that this works over WiFi with no problems. I turned off the Wifi card on my laptop and enabled the Wifi on the phone. A few moments later I got the connection indicator on my laptop (Windows Vista) and away we go. I posted this using the connection. Can anyone confirm this works over 3G?
Screen shots posted below. (Sorry about the blurry pics, I don't have the steadiest hands)
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The hero has always been able to share wifi using the usb tether. The 3G sharing will be disabled for you as always. Sorry to burst your bubble this is not something new. In fact, way back before we had root you could use a trick to tether the 3G over usb by turning off mobile network and then enabling the MNS while turning the mobile network back on. It was just a bug that someone found to bypass the 3G sharing lockout. After we got root no one really needed that trick anymore.

Couple of quick questions

Hey all,
I have a few quick questions, i have been using search but i havn't found my answers yet. I was wondering if there is a .cab for a barcode reader app like on android. Also is does anyone know if t-mobile USA has a fair use limit such as 5gb for data (i know verizon does). Also i'm having trouble connecting to anything online with my phone after updating to TMOUSA's new rom today.

check out omarket for a barcode reader, i use i-nigma, it does the job.
Tmo usa will definately have a "fair use" policy on data usage, it'l be in your contract or their site, the last time I checked in the UK it was only 1gb. They say everythings bigger in America though.......
Cant help you with your rom problem im afraid......

tmobilehas has disabled internet sharing capability.
try wmwifirouterapp you gotta pay but it'll work

sherlockpwnz said:
tmobilehas has disabled internet sharing capability.
try wmwifirouterapp you gotta pay but it'll work
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I think you mean that they didn't include an app for it? I've been using it since the HD2 came out (and before that I used it on my HD) and it works just fine. Pretty much all custom roms have it cooked in, but you can always just download and install wifirouter cab.
As for the limit, I believe it was 5gigs and has been changed to 10gigs (pretty sure it's one or the other). If you go over, I believe they just throttle you down but they don't cut you off and there's no overage charge.

no there is an internet sharing app tmobile is doing away with it. i bought my phone back in march and it had an internet sharing shortcut and worked up until this new update. it blocks communication to their network when the phone recognizes the phone is connected via usb

I'm not a fan of the WIFI app, i think WMWIFIROUTER is much better. It seems that the Wifi app on winmo just piggybacks on my wifi network at home and extends the range. I noticed that it still has the same hostname under "status" on my pc.

sprint hot spot is free?

Hey everyone,
im new to the android OS. i rooted the phone and today i decided to mess with the sprint hot spot feature. i wasnt prompt any error codes or have any fee agreement pop up. i simply click activate and bamm, wifi. so the question is, would i be charge the $30 since nothing was prompt or is it a sneaky thing sprint do and bill me later? or maybe it was a feature one click root did. thanks for the answer. i tried to search but couldnt find a solid answer.

I'd be careful with that! Might be getting that $30 fee added on as a surprise. If you are rooted, you don't need hotspot, just download Wifi tether from the market. it's free for sure. no surprises!

I also second that, I would stay away from the Orig Sprint Hotspot feature if you are not paying for it. Dont be surprise if you see a $30 charge on the bill, like stated above from jirafabo just root like you did already and use the wifi tether program if you really need some sort of wifi tethering. It operates on the "N" 802.11 network so as long as your laptop can see a "N" network you can connect.

alrighty. by any chance anyone figure out how to make the phone tether over usb by using the option already available once plugged in? i dont have wireless N and just want a one click system.

I don't think wifi tether uses N. It should work with the usual a//b/g channels
Sent from my Epic 4G

you can try wifi tether and see if you dont broadcast on the "n" network, but when I go over the wifi icon on the laptop the epic is running radio 802.11n adhoc network.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=756804 <----now you can install this, it run on the 802.11g radio infrastrucrture mode. This is what I use since my companys laptop will not connect to wifi adhoc.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=803335 <-----found this for you, it is a kernel what will allow usb tethering if you will like to try.

van48 said:
Hey everyone,
im new to the android OS. i rooted the phone and today i decided to mess with the sprint hot spot feature. i wasnt prompt any error codes or have any fee agreement pop up. i simply click activate and bamm, wifi. so the question is, would i be charge the $30 since nothing was prompt or is it a sneaky thing sprint do and bill me later? or maybe it was a feature one click root did. thanks for the answer. i tried to search but couldnt find a solid answer.
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Did you try using it as a hotspot? Mine starts up without any prompts and I can see if from the computer but I can't get on the internet. I noticed that as soon as I activate the hotspot it kills the 3g signal. I assumed this was Sprints way of protecting it. I didn't think it was a problem on my end.

I have been using mine rooted for a while with the wireless tether app 2.0.9pre5 (i think). I think this is just because of the signal quality i'm getting, but my 3G speeds are only around .5mbps down and .3mbps up (if i'm lucky, lol). Anyone else getting anything faster? I have only been on sprint for a couple months now and prior to that, i had AT&T, which seemed a bit faster. I realize there are differences between the networks, but i would have figured EVDO to be nearly the same speed.

van48 said:
alrighty. by any chance anyone figure out how to make the phone tether over usb by using the option already available once plugged in? i dont have wireless N and just want a one click system.
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The built in USB tether doesn't work for me (I don't have the PAM/hot spot add on).
But I use Easy Tether for USB tethering. It works fine. Google it.
I'm on basic data plan and not rooted.

Unknown Zone said:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=756804 <----now you can install this, it run on the 802.11g radio infrastrucrture mode. This is what I use since my companys laptop will not connect to wifi adhoc.
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Okay, just installed this on the MixUp kernel, and it works like a charm.
Wifi Tether is a nice app, but the solution above is hands-down superior and the way to go. Very simple, works in infrastructure mode so it will act as an AP for anything, and is nicely integrated in with the rest of the software through the settings panel.
This is DA BOMB!
One question from a noob, though: I applied this MOD through clockworkrecovery, the same way I flashed the MixUp kernel. This didn't replace the kernel or anything, right? I'm not running a different kernel now, am I?

dwallersv said:
One question from a noob, though: I applied this MOD through clockworkrecovery, the same way I flashed the MixUp kernel. This didn't replace the kernel or anything, right? I'm not running a different kernel now, am I?
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No it didn't...recovery flashing = just replacing the files in the zip to the ones in your system...in this case it replaced only the MobileAP.apk and a few other files..and thats it. The kernel should be fine.