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Hi Guys,
I'm back on XDA Forums again after straying over to maemo.org (Nokia N810 internet tablet) for a year or so. Great hardware, but software just wasn't there yet (for me) so it went to ebay as soon as I read about the HD.
Anyway, I was wondering. Given these large sensitive screens and new input methods like shapewriter & swype on the way (if they ever get round to releasing them), do you really think a real qwery keyboard will still be a requirement for most people.
I'm an ex Universal owner (still got it, but needs fixing). But having seen the demo's of shapewriter etc. and having played around with a couple of examples on my Tablet PC, I'm really excited about these sliding based input options. I reckon 50+ words a minute looks quite manageable with very little training.
I don't think I will miss the qwerty input except when entering very technical stuff (things that would not be recognised by the dictionary).
What do you guys think ?
If you don't know what shapewriter or swype are, take a look at :
www.shapewriter.com
www.swypeinc.com
Zuber
Zuber said:
Hi Guys,
I'm back on XDA Forums again after straying over to maemo.org (Nokia N810 internet tablet) for a year or so. Great hardware, but software just wasn't there yet (for me) so it went to ebay as soon as I read about the HD.
Anyway, I was wondering. Given these large sensitive screens and new input methods like shapewriter & swype on the way (if they ever get round to releasing them), do you really think a real qwery keyboard will still be a requirement for most people.
I'm an ex Universal owner (still got it, but needs fixing). But having seen the demo's of shapewriter etc. and having played around with a couple of examples on my Tablet PC, I'm really excited about these sliding based input options. I reckon 50+ words a minute looks quite manageable with very little training.
I don't think I will miss the qwerty input except when entering very technical stuff (things that would not be recognised by the dictionary).
What do you guys think ?
If you don't know what shapewriter or swype are, take a look at :
www.shapewriter.com
www.swypeinc.com
Zuber
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Typing faster and more confortable than in a real keyboard won´t be as easy to achieve as it seems, at least for today technology on KB on screen, we are far away...
need a real keyboard?
...just add it!
http://www.logitech.com/index.cfm/keyboards/keyboard/devices/3848&cl=US,EN
pzucchel said:
...just add it!
http://www.logitech.com/index.cfm/keyboards/keyboard/devices/3848&cl=US,EN
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I've got one of these. I'm not sure how you think it's supposed to work with an HD.
Zuber said:
Hi Guys,
I'm back on XDA Forums again after straying over to maemo.org (Nokia N810 internet tablet) for a year or so. Great hardware, but software just wasn't there yet (for me) so it went to ebay as soon as I read about the HD.
Anyway, I was wondering. Given these large sensitive screens and new input methods like shapewriter & swype on the way (if they ever get round to releasing them), do you really think a real qwery keyboard will still be a requirement for most people.
I'm an ex Universal owner (still got it, but needs fixing). But having seen the demo's of shapewriter etc. and having played around with a couple of examples on my Tablet PC, I'm really excited about these sliding based input options. I reckon 50+ words a minute looks quite manageable with very little training.
I don't think I will miss the qwerty input except when entering very technical stuff (things that would not be recognised by the dictionary).
What do you guys think ?
If you don't know what shapewriter or swype are, take a look at :
www.shapewriter.com
www.swypeinc.com
Zuber
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I must say that the videos are very impressive and at this moment, it seems to be a very good alternative to a physical keyboard. Looking at those videos I had the urge to test the softwares out but they are not available yet.
Not even betas.
Shapewriter has a free software download but it's on iTunes and it's only for iPhones...
Ruudfood said:
I've got one of these. I'm not sure how you think it's supposed to work with an HD.
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Well, i don't have neither the dinovo mini neither the touch hd . However, if you browse google you can find that various people have succeeded to connect PC bluetooth keyboards to windows mobile, so i think it should be possible.
http://www.windowsmobiletraining.com/connection/forums/p/1045/3357.aspx
Zuber said:
www.shapewriter.com
www.swypeinc.com
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Already been done! There's a keyboard that's already been officially that allows you to "draw" from letter to letter. I remember reading about it maybe even 2 months ago. Its been posted in the general forum/subforum.
pzucchel said:
Well, i don't have neither the dinovo mini neither the touch hd . However, if you browse google you can find that various people have succeeded to connect PC bluetooth keyboards to windows mobile, so i think it should be possible.
http://www.windowsmobiletraining.com/connection/forums/p/1045/3357.aspx
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Well in that case...
I have to say though that the keys on the DiNovo Mini are quite small even though the device itself is quite big (it's bigger than an HD) so not something you'd want to carry round with you or type large amounts of text with. Handy for occasional use, but then again if you're only using it occasionally you might as well stick with the various software keyboards that are available.
pzucchel said:
...just add it!
http://www.logitech.com/index.cfm/keyboards/keyboard/devices/3848&cl=US,EN
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Mercí
I was not aware of that product!
I´ll get one once I recieve my HD!!
Great demo video on swype
Found a good youtube video on swtpe that goes into a little more detail rather than the basic promo stuff.
It doesn't have the nice graphics, but the technology looks good.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=anYvTSnXWbk
Zuber
I am glad you all liked the concept you have seen. Because unlike Swype and which is only an idea for now, and Shapewriter which isn't much of a use in the ihone, there is a company who also manifested this idea and it is available for the public allready. I found it in some forum a few weeks ago, and since then I am simply amazed.
It's called SlideIT, has free demos.
Here is a video for it if you like to see it in action first:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OkFSGfe2NEQ
Check it out then: http://www.mobiletextinput.com/Product/SlideIT/SlideIT.php
Jim Me said:
I am glad you all liked the concept you have seen. Because unlike Swype and which is only an idea for now, and Shapewriter which isn't much of a use in the ihone, there is a company who also manifested this idea and it is available for the public allready. I found it in some forum a few weeks ago, and since then I am simply amazed.
It's called SlideIT, has free demos.
Here is a video for it if you like to see it in action first:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OkFSGfe2NEQ
Check it out then: http://www.mobiletextinput.com/Product/SlideIT/SlideIT.php
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I just saw the youtube video.
I'm not sure I like the layout of the keyboard. what's up with that "pizza pie" format?
That's a bit weird.
The added graffiti recognition feature is pretty cool.
I owned an HTC Universal too, but to be honest, hardly use the keyboard.
HI, following your comments i started evaluating the demo version of slideIT for curiosity...simply amazing, i am tempted to buy it but i will wait for the HD to make sure it works OK on 800x480. I make much fewer errors than with normal soft keyboards, and in a few trials i realized i am equally fast...i couldn't believe it myself.
Indeed, the pen is mandatory...but so what?
...anybody which had tried swype? as far as i understand, the software doesn't exist yet...
pzucchel said:
HI, following your comments i started evaluating the demo version of slideIT for curiosity...simply amazing, i am tempted to buy it but i will wait for the HD to make sure it works OK on 800x480. I make much fewer errors than with normal soft keyboards, and in a few trials i realized i am equally fast...i couldn't believe it myself.
Indeed, the pen is mandatory...but so what?
...anybody which had tried swype? as far as i understand, the software doesn't exist yet...
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Nope, both shapewriter and swype don't exist for WM yet. If you own an iPhone you could get a free copy of shapewriter on iTunes.
I'm wondering what is swype waiting for. We've all seen the software being used on videos on youtube. So what's with the delay of the release?
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Nope, both shapewriter and swype don't exist for WM yet. If you own an iPhone you could get a free copy of shapewriter on iTunes.
I'm wondering what is swype waiting for. We've all seen the software being used on videos on youtube. So what's with the delay of the release?
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Yes, I find it really frustrating. I've had a tablet pc for several months now and the only thing I find problematic is data input.
Shark was around years ago, but they pulled it to go commercial with ShapeWriter (you can't get hold of the old Shark beta software anymore).
Swype has obviously been around in beta for quite some time as well, but again not for the public. In the demos, I'm sure I've seen it running on windows mobile.
I took a quick look at slide it, but personally, I'm only interested in the slide input and SlideIt seams to have put too much effort into the "three input methods". I'm more interested in the realestate being dedicated to a single input method with large buttons.
Also I get the feeling that swype/shapewriter have better algorithms for "sloppy" input.
Finally, SlideIT is Windows Mobile only. I want a common input method on my tablet and my PDA.
I do wonder if both camps are holding back while thier legal teams sort out where they stand on patents etc.
Just my thoughts...
Zuber
pzucchel said:
...just add it!
http://www.logitech.com/index.cfm/keyboards/keyboard/devices/3848&cl=US,EN
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Did you manage to get Divo Mini Logitech keyboard to work with the HD?
If it does that wiould be the perfect combination for me. Hopefully you can balance the HD on the cover as well.
Comments would be greatly appreciated!
CAlli
pzucchel said:
...just add it!
http://www.logitech.com/index.cfm/keyboards/keyboard/devices/3848&cl=US,EN
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Did you manage to get Divo Mini Logitech keyboard to work with the HD?
If it does that wiould be the perfect combination for me. Hopefully you can balance the HD on the cover as well.
Comments would be greatly appreciated!
CAlli
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Did you manage to get Divo Mini Logitech keyboard to work with the HD?
If it does that wiould be the perfect combination for me. Hopefully you can balance the HD on the cover as well.
Comments would be greatly appreciated!
CAlli
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Hi Calli, the comment is very simple: nobody here has a touch HD yet!
...anybody who has tried the dinovo mini on a diamond to comment? i am sure it could be a good proxy...
Good point. Got carried away in anticipation!
Calli
Does anyone have an idea or thinks HTC will launch HTC Touch HD with QWERTY and call it HTC Touch HD Pro?
Anyway, that would be my perfect phone. I was about to buy HTC Touch Pro but when HTC Touch HD came out, I kinda relaxed thinking HTC Touch HD might be the right product for me. All I can think of now is, will those fellas in Taiwan come up with the Pro version for HTC Touch HD?
Any suggestions?
bjluv said:
Does anyone have an idea or thinks HTC will launch HTC Touch HD with QWERTY and call it HTC Touch HD Pro?
Anyway, that would be my perfect phone. I was about to buy HTC Touch Pro but when HTC Touch HD came out, I kinda relaxed thinking HTC Touch HD might be the right product for me. All I can think of now is, will those fellas in Taiwan come up with the Pro version for HTC Touch HD?
Any suggestions?
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I had the same thoughts, then I realised that we did not have qwerty with the original Pocket Pc's. Therefore why not use a fold up (stoway) keyboard. Carry with you only when needed and it is better sized keyboard as well. Then when not required you only carry a thin phone with you the HD!
Calli
I was going to post the exact same thoughts. I too wanted to pick up the HTC Touch Pro. But after seeing the HTC Touch HD, I convinced myself I would be willing to wait up to a year, for something with that screen and a QWERTY slider. I hope HTC has this in their recent plans.
The thing is as the screen is quite large, the keys on the virtual keyboard may be quite wider and therefore make your typing more accurate. Also there are third party software keyboards that are full screen such as spb full screen keyboard. Google "spb full screen keyboard screenshots" and go to the first result.
BTW, does anyone know how I can get rid of the vodafone logo at the top right corner of this post? I am not on vodafone anymore. Cant figure where in my profile settings I can remove it.
The truth of the matter is, when it comes to engaging in multiple sms texting communications, it's hard to beat an actual, physical keyboard. It seems HTC would agree by their decision to produce the HTC Touch Diamond and HTC Touch Pro (I know there are other hardware specs also).
What would be the harm to allow consumers to have the option? I don't consider a portable folding keyboard as an option, to engage in texting and emailing discussions. That would be too cumbersome for quick messaging.
Come on HTC..........bring this to reality.......bring this to the states for ATT 3G. Hopefully this could be a true Hapy Thanksgiving in 2009. I'm prepared to wait it out a year for this one.
bjluv said:
Does anyone have an idea or thinks HTC will launch HTC Touch HD with QWERTY and call it HTC Touch HD Pro?
Anyway, that would be my perfect phone. I was about to buy HTC Touch Pro but when HTC Touch HD came out, I kinda relaxed thinking HTC Touch HD might be the right product for me. All I can think of now is, will those fellas in Taiwan come up with the Pro version for HTC Touch HD?
Any suggestions?
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here's a hint:
Wouldn't that be the already in production Athena???
Pawel062 said:
here's a hint:
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Seems you know...or are testing...something we don't know about. If this dream phone comes out, and it doesn't have US 3G frequencies, I just may have to try and slit my wrists with my HTC Trinity
Pawel062 said:
here's a hint:
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so where is it? Give us more info if u have something else up ya sleeve brother
calli said:
I had the same thoughts, then I realised that we did not have qwerty with the original Pocket Pc's. Therefore why not use a fold up (stoway) keyboard. Carry with you only when needed and it is better sized keyboard as well. Then when not required you only carry a thin phone with you the HD!
Calli
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This is almost impossible. A friend used to have something like that for one of his old HTC PPC without the physical QWERTY - I think it was cruise or p3600. He gave it away for a kaiser so nothing beats the physical.
Imagine dropping ur fold-up keyboard home thinking, ok no heavy texting today. Suddenly, during the day you find yourself out of the office and had to send loads of emails and txt colleagues. Damn you will bite those fingers
Was thinking Athena earlier before Touch Pro. My brother got that and I wasnt all that impressive with what I saw. I wanna belive HTC Touch HD Pro will come out Q1 2009
HTC Touch HD Pro is what I am waiting for if it would finally see the daylight.
tboy2000 said:
BTW, does anyone know how I can get rid of the vodafone logo at the top right corner of this post? I am not on vodafone anymore. Cant figure where in my profile settings I can remove it.
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Here ya go:
Quick Links > Edit your details> scroll down to Additional information and change from GSM Provider.
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So someone add more networks to Finland. We do not have Telia anymore here
I just want a bigger screen then my Tilt with VGA and 3G here in the USA
the keyboard to me is no big deal
Looks like I will do the upgrade to the Fuze from my Tilt on my wifes upgrade then maybe if the HD comes to the USA in 2009 I can do the upgrade on my account
I hope
If they could also add
-Flash
-VGA video recording at 30 fps
-DVB-H (we got nation wide coverage of DVB-H overhere in the Netherlands)
and maybe even :
-Opticall zooming
Then it would come close to the perfect phone untill Nvidia tegra processors arive.
thanks Bjluv!
Read here please:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=437646
It looks beautifull with keyboard!!
Hope this can become true
it is coming...just watch out for it
bjluv said:
it is coming...just watch out for it
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Do you know this from a trust source? or it´s just your personal thinking
Thanks,
there is too much rumours out there but I think it is coming or it should come... I want to think I know so...
orb3000 said:
Do you know this from a trust source? or it´s just your personal thinking
Thanks,
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listen people will not go straight out and say that yes there will be one. u need to put 2 and 2 together if u know what i mean.
Pawel062 said:
listen people will not go straight out and say that yes there will be one. u need to put 2 and 2 together if u know what i mean.
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Agree!
Cheers,
Hey guy, just a lil confused on what new phone to go with.I have a wing that i been using for a year . i'm considering the g1 or htc fuze.
i say the fuze because the flexibility of windows mobile.
the G1 is nice but as for functionality i would go with the fuuze i have not like the functionality on the G1 and it will be too long before i can come up to par with win mo
ilikepu said:
the G1 is nice but as for functionality i would go with the fuuze i have not like the functionality on the G1 and it will be too long before i can come up to par with win mo
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thanks well i got rid of my wing and my wife got me a iphone...
kidnamedAlbert said:
i say the fuze because the flexibility of windows mobile.
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what he said...i miss my wing and winmo so much
the only thing nice about the g1 is the larger screen, but i would go for the higher res over screen size. i guess the track ball is nice, but not really. capacitive screen sucks, can't play any games where speed and accuracy is a factor.
htown978 said:
thanks well i got rid of my wing and my wife got me a iphone...
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I'm sorry to hear that! Hahaha, ok just kidding. Actually, I think I would have to go with the Vuze as well.
i had the same problem in upgrading phones. really wanted gps more ram and a faster cpu. i bought an att branded kaiser off of eghey for $230. it is great. the only thing that the wing has over the tilt is that the wing ( or at least mine) was way more stable than the kaiser. I am not saying that everyone will have the same experience with it though. If the wing had more ram i would still be using it.
android in my mind is terrible.
i would have went with the fuze except for a few small gripes
. problems with apps because of vga res.
. battery life
. hard ware buttons
. it is backwards from the wing/kaiser
I'm thinking of buying the HTC HD2 but is there much point now, if it won't be getting updated and newer and better phones are coming out?
I'm looking at it as it has the biggest screen(besides the streak which im also considering, but much more expensive)
What would you suggest?
70th said:
I'm thinking of buying the HTC HD2 but is there much point now, if it won't be getting updated and newer and better phones are coming out?
I'm looking at it as it has the biggest screen(besides the streak which im also considering, but much more expensive)
What would you suggest?
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if you actually like winmo as it is, with the way windows phone 7 is shaping up the hd2 could become a very valuable antique.
theabsurdman said:
if you actually like winmo as it is, with the way windows phone 7 is shaping up the hd2 could become a very valuable antique.
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I don't know because ive never used a winmo phone before.
70th said:
I don't know because ive never used a winmo phone before.
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What has been your phone history? And what do you use or intend using the phone for?
WM, iphone and android suit different ppl and WP7 looks weird imho...
well if you have the patient to wait until the end of 2010 or so, just wait. i didn't have or why don't you try Evo?
argentocruz said:
What has been your phone history? And what do you use or intend using the phone for?
WM, iphone and android suit different ppl and WP7 looks weird imho...
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Over the last couple of years, ive only used the bold 9000, HTC Desire and iPhone 4, however i sent back the iphone 4 as the ui is getting very boring.
I use the phone more for texts and internet than phone, i primarily want to use it for web browsing, thats why the streak appealed to me, but this is cheaper, im just worried about updates, and the lack of official support after WP7
dan138zig said:
well if you have the patient to wait until the end of 2010 or so, just wait. i didn't have or why don't you try Evo?
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I can't wait until the end of 2010 i have no phone at present lol. Also im in the UK so the Evo is a no go otherwise i would definitely have it.
if you like bets, get one now.
If the bet goes well, you will buy a "cheap" device which will get a fully functional froyo OS on it when the android devteam has completed the job, and be almost at the level of the Evo, without its bulkiness... and before the thing goes out and the demand increases, making the prices go higher.
If the bet goes bad, you still get a cheap but powerful device with WM on it
Anyway, given my experience with the device, and the market which is available for italy, I would get it again now as well.
70th said:
I don't know because ive never used a winmo phone before.
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Try before you buy my friend.
I've been using winmo for years and I love it. The HD2 is my favorite device yet.
Winmo users generally love to tweak. These forums make tweaking fun and you can usually get whatever you need, want and more for your phone if you're willing to search for it.
That being said, some find winmo and the HD2 an utter frustration. Some lament about buying the HD2 because it doesn't do everything right out of the box.
So if you like to customise, tweak and experiment, you may just love the HD2.
If you like something that works to it's full potential right out of the box, but may not be quite so custimisable and tweakable, perhaps another platform would be better.
i really NEVER recommend ppl a windows phone.. except i know that he can handle it.
i dont know u, so i would recommend android
u NEED to know what u do when u are using winmo, or u will hate it
The more I read about WM7, the more I am glad I have a WM6.5 phone, and I'm not planning to 'upgrade' to such a locked down platform.
ribcage said:
Try before you buy my friend.
I've been using winmo for years and I love it. The HD2 is my favorite device yet.
Winmo users generally love to tweak. These forums make tweaking fun and you can usually get whatever you need, want and more for your phone if you're willing to search for it.
That being said, some find winmo and the HD2 an utter frustration. Some lament about buying the HD2 because it doesn't do everything right out of the box.
So if you like to customise, tweak and experiment, you may just love the HD2.
If you like something that works to it's full potential right out of the box, but may not be quite so custimisable and tweakable, perhaps another platform would be better.
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I love tweaking, which is another reason for considering this phone, and which is why i got rid of the iPhone 4.
I love the idea of registry tweaks, which may sound weird, and i also love the idea of a winmo device being just like windows on the pc (regarding registry tweaks).
And regarding having everything work out of the box, i find that very boring, im always looking to do new things with a phone.
The only problem i am seeing is the future updates, looking at Android they are going to have constant updates, but obviously winmo 6.5 is not. however if i know that winmo will be getting unofficial updates from devs etc i will be more than happy to buy the HD2.
Thanks for all the replies so far.
Ok, i went ahead and bought a HD2, hopefully i'll enjoy it.
Please post your experiences with the phone.
And how much did you grab it for? US or non?
if you need big screen then definitely go for hd2. i was in your position. but screen size was a dealbreaker. had there one android phone with screen as big as this, i wouldn't have bought hd2
bluespire said:
Please post your experiences with the phone.
And how much did you grab it for? US or non?
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I got it for £279, comes with quite bit of accessories too, I would post the eBay link but not sure if allowed. Non US version
dan138zig said:
if you need big screen then definitely go for hd2. i was in your position. but screen size was a dealbreaker. had there one android phone with screen as big as this, i wouldn't have bought hd2
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Yes, the screen was probably the main reason for buying this phone.
70th said:
I got it for £279, comes with quite bit of accessories too, I would post the eBay link but not sure if allowed. Non US version
Yes, the screen was probably the main reason for buying this phone.
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i have to say i agree about the screen.. i have a hd2 and my friend got a desire soon after me.. the screen estate difference is just HUGE...
and i recently ran the android test build side by side with his phone screen beside mine.. the difference just got worse coz the widget icons are much smaller in android compared to the quick link icons in winmo..
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i have to say i agree about the screen.. i have a hd2 and my friend got a desire soon after me.. the screen estate difference is just HUGE...
and i recently ran the android test build side by side with his phone screen beside mine.. the difference just got worse coz the widget icons are much smaller in android compared to the quick link icons in winmo..
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Awesome, i cant wait for my HD2 now .
I was getting sick of the headaches after surfing the web on my iPhone 4 due to the small screen.
good choice.....
you made a good choice op. hd2 is my first wm phone and i'll admit, i love it. the tweaking on the phone is good fun. at the moment im running CHT and SPB Mobile Shell side by side as well as having loads of other little tweaks to make the phone my own. theres a ton of really good apps and software floating about the net.
The only bad point i can think of is Opera's non support of 10.1 for wm6.5. Skyfire's pretty usefull for flash though so all's not lost. i'm sure you will love your new phone bud......
donwhann said:
you made a good choice op. hd2 is my first wm phone and i'll admit, i love it. the tweaking on the phone is good fun. at the moment im running CHT and SPB Mobile Shell side by side as well as having loads of other little tweaks to make the phone my own. theres a ton of really good apps and software floating about the net.
The only bad point i can think of is Opera's non support of 10.1 for wm6.5. Skyfire's pretty usefull for flash though so all's not lost. i'm sure you will love your new phone bud......
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Thanks, i hope so, i've never seen anyone else with one
Only 2 good phones to get
HD2 - Windows
Evo - Anaroid
I love my Htc HD2
What do you think?
dont get it! htc app on dell? get a htc
ajftl said:
dont get it! htc app on dell? get a htc
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Yes, this is a hard decision. But I truly love portrait KB. I can type with two hands or one depending on the situation. I don't need super wide keys.
I have had two BB Pearls in the past, and when I had them I thought the landscape KB was going to be awesome. I have had a G1 now for two years with it's landscape KB. I develop iPhone apps, among other things, so with it's virtual KB and the android KB (iPhone sucks without swype lol) I have logged many hours with all the KB types.
Some messages or responses are long, some medium, and some short. With a portrait Slide KB I can use whatever medium I want.
Wow, and the Dell is sexy as hell.
So HD7 has 4.3 inch screen and Dell has 4.1. I'm still leaning towards the Dell
he3 said:
What do you think?
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You won't be able to without some sort of hacking, as the manufacturer-specific apps are part of the OEM "differentiation" that Microsoft is promoting.
Why? Is there anything actually worth having? Applications with pointless eye-candy, why would anyone want those?
efjay said:
Why? Is there anything actually worth having? Applications with pointless eye-candy, why would anyone want those?
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Lol, just thought about the other end of the spectrum. Command line phone.
Call ########## -gc -speaker -vol:75
I guess could just write a script if I used it often enough...
Yeah, I like the HTC fluff.
he3 said:
Lol, just thought about the other end of the spectrum. Command line phone.
Call ########## -gc -speaker -vol:75
I guess could just write a script if I used it often enough...
Yeah, I like the HTC fluff.
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I'm all for apps that look good but the HTC apps on WP7 don't really seem to serve much purpose at all. The animations take forever and there's lots more usable ways of implementing them.
May be for now htc hub is useless but later may be there is application added by htc that make differance
The Question is .. is all Hubs developed by companies can be easily move from one device to other company device
i liked the Dell device as well, but in a long run i will stick to the HD7 and for the first time in a long time i will be using a phone with out a physical keyboard.....
i will rather have a HTC device then any other as i like to try the goddies from XDA gods (chefs)...
and dell is not selling in Asia anyway... maybe as a second phone i will get the venue pro...
Having had an HD2 for a while and a Touch Pro before that, oh and a TyTn before that, I think HTC's software is just bloaty eye-candy at best.
The app store will cover everything you need anyway.
I like the weather app and the equalizer.. wouldn't mind having them on my Venue Pro.
The Dell Venue Pro would have been perfect (for me) if it had:
1) HTC Locations (/ maps)
2) HTCSense.com functionality
3) Flash (as per the HTC Desire HD)
All Windows Phones have HTCSense.com functionality built in... MyPhone
so, we won't be able to get it.
i'm sure there must be a way to unpack it from the rom and make a (how are the cab's called now?)...
cheers all
victor
vicie said:
so, we won't be able to get it.
i'm sure there must be a way to unpack it from the rom and make a (how are the cab's called now?)...
cheers all
victor
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This is the direction this thread was supposed to go, heh. But it got moved out of development general. Oh wells.
he3 said:
This is the direction this thread was supposed to go, heh. But it got moved out of development general. Oh wells.
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I'd say it was moved from the Dev general forum because you asked about a specific device...
Maybe you could start a new thread in the Dev general (or Win7 Dev) asking about the possibility of extracting the Sense stuff and getting it onto other non-HTC WP7 devices?
yeah but what is the file structure like in comparison to venue pro? Is the application hw or sw based? and how do we recompile the container to install on our side?
we may need a jailbreak =/
I'm only guessing, but I'd say it's only software based and will work on pretty much any WP7 device if it can be pulled from an HTC one.
the_scotsman said:
I'm only guessing, but I'd say it's only software based and will work on pretty much any WP7 device if it can be pulled from an HTC one.
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I read a tweet that said some of the HTC apps are native... No proof though.
so, is there a new thread, or not?, cuse we might make work of it (is that english??)