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text messaging... smart redirects, password protection etc ?

Hi,
I would like a more intuitive messaging application. Can the standard messaging application be replaced and/or disabled. Ideally I would like to direct text and mms messages from different people to be routed into different folders and to password protect some of these folders if possible.
I would also like to kill the messaging 'envelope' icon that is displayed when a new text is received. I never want to see this.
Any idead for any/all of these, the last one is the most important to me.
many thanks,
malty

I'd like that too...
Please help us... :wink:
Thanks

Re: text messaging... smart redirects, password protection
maltloaf said:
Hi,
I would like a more intuitive messaging application. Can the standard messaging application be replaced and/or disabled. Ideally I would like to direct text and mms messages from different people to be routed into different folders and to password protect some of these folders if possible.
I would also like to kill the messaging 'envelope' icon that is displayed when a new text is received. I never want to see this.
Any idead for any/all of these, the last one is the most important to me.
many thanks,
malty
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Ehehe! This looks like a one man - many women situation!!!
Anyway, to disable messages notification go to : Settings - Sounds and Notifications - Notification - New SMS and uncheck everything.
As for filters, folders and password i can't help, but if your friend owns a PPC too you could install Jgui ASMS (http://www.jgui.net/asms/) on both phones and use its encryption feature.

You can also try Smart Guard Pro: http://www.handango.com/PlatformPro...806&Ntt=smart guard&productId=185976&R=185976
bye

risidoro said:
You can also try Smart Guard Pro: http://www.handango.com/PlatformPro...806&Ntt=smart guard&productId=185976&R=185976
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That's kinda pricey...
I don't think it has the option of sorting incoming messages into different folders...
Did anyone try it? I don't want to spend $40 for something I won't use...

Re: text messaging... smart redirects, password protection
risidoro said:
Ehehe! This looks like a one man - many women situation!!!
Anyway, to disable messages notification go to : Settings - Sounds and Notifications - Notification - New SMS and uncheck everything.
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I dont think this gets rid of the envelope icon in the top system tray. Thats what im after above and beyond everything else

Does anyone know if smart guard is wm5 compatible? I've emailed the programmers but havent had any replies

InfoSharp or create your own with SKschema
InfoSharp does all theses things http://www.mycnknow.com/.
SKschema has many nice scripting tools but would be more difficult since you have to create your own scrips. But it does work nicely.

Re: InfoSharp or create your own with SKschema
llestat said:
InfoSharp does all theses things http://www.mycnknow.com/.
SKschema has many nice scripting tools but would be more difficult since you have to create your own scrips. But it does work nicely.
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Question:
Does this program use default SMS location or does it use its own?

infosharp does this perfectly (after some poking of the settings). The manual isnt very well translated into english but you get the idea eventually will report back any problems as they occur
many thanks for the recommendation
Malty

Sounds interesting...
Is InfoSharpe a bolt-on for the existing SMS software in the phone, or does it replace it? If so, is there anything the standard software does that this doesn't?
How long is the trial period and can it be cleanly uninstalled if not happy?
Andre

it runs sort of parallel to the original messaging app so you dont lose any functionality. Im using infosharp for sms and messaging for mms/email etc. Infosharp obeys the rules you apply to each contact or group (or every contact) and one of those rules is to not display in inbox, which means it doesnt get passed to 'messaging' and the txt messaging icon does not get displayed, as i required.
If you dont have 'do not display in inbox' checked, you can carry on and use messaging as normal.
At the moment I have a few folders set up, girlfriend, mates etc and it routes them and notifies me exactly as i require. Some contacts have no notification at all and i only know theres a message if i actually check the folder theyre routed to. Some have modified notifications and some have the ordinary notification.
SMS can be routed to custom folders and be available in only infosharp or routed to the inbox where they are available to both messaging and infosharp.
as it runs in parallel i cant see theres a problem uninstalling. It doesnt seem to mess with any system files but as i havent tried this i cant say for sure.
Good stuff.
Malty

maltloaf said:
it runs sort of parallel to the original messaging app so you dont lose any functionality. Im using infosharp for sms and messaging for mms/email etc. Infosharp obeys the rules you apply to each contact or group (or every contact) and one of those rules is to not display in inbox, which means it doesnt get passed to 'messaging' and the txt messaging icon does not get displayed, as i required.
If you dont have 'do not display in inbox' checked, you can carry on and use messaging as normal.
At the moment I have a few folders set up, girlfriend, mates etc and it routes them and notifies me exactly as i require. Some contacts have no notification at all and i only know theres a message if i actually check the folder theyre routed to. Some have modified notifications and some have the ordinary notification.
SMS can be routed to custom folders and be available in only infosharp or routed to the inbox where they are available to both messaging and infosharp.
as it runs in parallel i cant see theres a problem uninstalling. It doesnt seem to mess with any system files but as i havent tried this i cant say for sure.
Good stuff.
Malty
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Are you able to create backups of all the folders? And does this program do it, or do you have to get something else?
Thanks
Luke

again its not something i've tried but there is an export / import function and also theres a file where i think everything is held anyway. (*.srm) They also do a program for the pc which can read the sms.
check the manual out here
http://www.mycnknow.com/infosharpmanul.htm

Android 1.0 bugs and glitches

Has anybody else found annoying bugs so far? Here's the ones that I've run into:
- Address Book server sync overwrites changes that you've made from the phone (haven't confirmed this one, might be my fault somehow)
- Multimedia volume slider plays your ringtone once you adjust the volume, but plays it at the volume set in the ringtone slider (not the volume that you're actually adjusting)
- Browser bookmarks list has a lot of trouble keeping site icons straight, it just kind of randomly shuffles them around to the wrong site as you load different bookmarks
- AOL Instant Messenger app shows weird behavior, not sure if it's a bug but it is definitely difficult to use in its current state. Locking the phone prevents messages from showing up, then on unlock they stream in all at once, and if you go too long without checking in on it the program will be terminated but your screen name will not be signed out of AOL's server
- There doesn't appear to be any way to set a vibration for notifications like Text Messages or IMs
- Some apps (MySpace Mobile, specifically) do not account for their process being interrupted when the screen rotates and the current action will be cancelled or the program will freeze.
Overall great phone, I'm really extremely impressed with it as a whole so far. I'm amazed at how fast my internet connection is on EDGE, my old Dash was technically on the exact same connection but took 5 or 10 times longer to load a full web page. Even without 3G the web browsing experience is comparable to using my desktop at home.

chefgon said:
- There doesn't appear to be any way to set a vibration for notifications like Text Messages or IMs
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ya there is. for example, go to the main Messaging page where it shows all of your threads. Click on Menu > Settings > Vibrate (put a check mark)
same thing with IMs or EMail

snofrandy said:
ya there is. for example, go to the main Messaging page where it shows all of your threads. Click on Menu > Settings > Vibrate (put a check mark)
same thing with IMs or EMail
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Awesome, thank you! Weird that the option isn't available in the same place as setting the vibration function for the phone. Has anybody found solutions to any of these other problems?

Thanks
That fixed it for me. Thanks..its so Funny because Ive been messing around with my phone for 2 days and Just found this answer...Thanks

Android will get it wrong sometimes on sms threads when the sender is not in your contacts.
I noticed yesterday I received an sms from [email protected] and deleted it. Later an sms from +1913XXXXXXX. When I pulled up the my sms folders later, the newer, undeleted sms from the 913 number said it was from @domain.com.
(and the two are in no way related.) I did a reboot and it still displayed the same.

chefgon said:
Has anybody else found annoying bugs so far?
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When I plug my G1 into my iMac the computer freezes and I need to do a hard restart. Is anyone else having this issue? My updates are current on my iMac and all of my other phones work without any problems.

when i play music and i turn of the screen, there is a jump every 15 seconds

here's an email bug...
Go to craigslist.org. I wanted to ask a seller a question. When I email from there, it gives me 2 options, to use my pop 3 email account or gmail. If I use gmail, it takes off the craigslist.org extension and replaces it with gmail.com. If i choose to send with my pop 3, it just opens a blank email without the email address. I try to copy and paste the address into the sending field, but it won't let me. I use craigslist a lot, so this is a bit of a pain...
Otherwise, lovin the G1

scottslc said:
Go to craigslist.org. I wanted to ask a seller a question. When I email from there, it gives me 2 options, to use my pop 3 email account or gmail. If I use gmail, it takes off the craigslist.org extension and replaces it with gmail.com. If i choose to send with my pop 3, it just opens a blank email without the email address. I try to copy and paste the address into the sending field, but it won't let me. I use craigslist a lot, so this is a bit of a pain...
Otherwise, lovin the G1
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When it switches you over to gmail. Is the body filled out or the sender in the field?

no, just replaces the extention
Give it a try see what you find. www.craigslist.org

Actually i did try it and it worked for me.
But, i used the mobile version of Craigslist.
Mobile version of Craigs

Repeat notification sound- HTC Pure

How to enable "play sound/repeat" in Sound & Notifications audio settings?
If I missed a notification (email or reminder) I'd like to hear a beep or other sound at selected intervals.
Thanks,
Andy

SMS Notification repeat
Since we are noobs and not real, I thought I might share my searching results. First the search only returns results with "sms repeat", and not much with the Topaz. I had the same problem with my old Kaiser, and there was a great little program on Modaco (http://www.modaco.com/downloads-file2400.html) that I think was more about led notification but worked for my need to get repeat SMS notification. (I am a network engineer that is on call a lot)
I did a bunch of registry hacks on the Kaiser but nothing that worked very well and ended up using Phils program above, but not on my Topaz yet. It is still stock ATT rom.
I did find references to 3 other programs:
MissedCallReminder
PhoneAlarm
spb phone suite
The Phone Alarm (http://www.pocketmax.net/phoneAlarm.html) has a couple of varients, and looks like it might be easy to install, and has a small footprint piece called AlarmPal that has a feature of turning on and off bluetooth that might be helpful if battery life is an issue.
Phone Alarm supposedly works on 6.5. AlarmPal looks like just 6.1 and below, but there are posts about Diamond with a WM 6.5 ROM.(less than $12.00US)
Missed Call Reminder is from here (xda-developers) and looks like one of the moderators might be using it but the post is from Nov, 2008. He has updated it and the files in the cab are from April of 2009. It uses 236K of memory. Not sure if that is alot or little.
I do not have time today to try these out, but should have a little time later in the week.

I too would like this feature enabled. There has got to be reg tweak that will enable the "repeat" box to be checked under sounds & notifications. I will search around as well.

I found this in another forum so I will post it here too. It is over a year old post so I'm not sure if it works yet but I will try it out and post my findings if you all want to wait for confirmation if it works or not on WM6.5. Thanks to Jackalz for this find (http://forums.techarena.in/tips-tweaks/992968.htm).
In Registry Editor, navigate to the following registry key branch:
HKEY_CURRENT_USER\ControlPanel\Notifications
There is a lot of registry sub-key inside the Notifications folder. Search through one by one to find and locate a registry entry that has its Default (REG_SZ) value as the name of the event. For example, Messaging: New e-mail message, Messaging: New text message, Messaging: New MMS message, Phone: Missed call and etc.
Once found the correct registry sub-key that represents the event that you want to enable the “Repeat” option, edit the value data for Options value name. Change the value to 1073741835 (in Decimal base) or 4000000B (in Hexadecimal HEX base format). Save and exit from registry editor.
Now the Repeat check box is enabled, and user should be able to set repetitive and recurring event notifications.
EDIT: I have just verified that these registry settings worked. I was able to enable the repeat option for New emails, new text and new mms message. CHEERS!

Edited post: I did the above registry tweak and as in the kaiser, It would not stop repeating after reading the sms. I deselected the repeat option and set the registry key back to 0000000b. back happy again..
Old post:
I will try that one.. On the old Kaiser, it would repeat, but unable to turn it off. It kept repeating, no matter what I did to turn it off.. Thanks,
Jack

SMS repeat notification
AlarmPal worked... and even quit "reminding" me after I turned it off..

SMS repeat notification program testing results
Missed Call Reminder: looks like low footprint but repeated Voicemail notification even when I did not have voice or voicemail notification on. Only way to turn off the voicemail notification was to actually listen to the voicemail, just acknowledging it would not turn off the alert. Also after opening it up once, have to reboot the phone to get back into the configuration. Not a problem if I was able to turn off the voicemail alerts.
Alarm Pal worked as advertised but memory usage climbed from 72% to 82% in 14hrs. Will reinstall and continue monitoring.

ramseyjack said:
Missed Call Reminder: looks like low footprint but repeated Voicemail notification even when I did not have voice or voicemail notification on. Only way to turn off the voicemail notification was to actually listen to the voicemail, just acknowledging it would not turn off the alert. Also after opening it up once, have to reboot the phone to get back into the configuration. Not a problem if I was able to turn off the voicemail alerts.
Alarm Pal worked as advertised but memory usage climbed from 72% to 82% in 14hrs. Will reinstall and continue monitoring.
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ah, maybe that's why they disabled it in the first place. haven't experienced that issue with email's or text messages on mine.

Repeat Notification SMS
Have been using Alarm Pal for a few weeks, and it works quite well. I still have the memory usage pump up to above 80% pretty quickly (8-16hrs) but I am a real heavy user of both email, text, alarms and phone. Any others using something different with a smaller memory footprint?

ramseyjack said:
Have been using Alarm Pal for a few weeks, and it works quite well. I still have the memory usage pump up to above 80% pretty quickly (8-16hrs) but I am a real heavy user of both email, text, alarms and phone. Any others using something different with a smaller memory footprint?
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I used MSentinel, you could try that! (after installing you should check the settings - mine checked the status every 1s and drained the battery very fast)
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=529227
On my Typhoon I used an modified version of MortScript-based reminder - it does not stay in memory, uses wm-s notifications system and executes itself after given time (made also a full hour bell from it ). Its even possible to create a custom scheduled task with it - for example run pim backup every saturday night.. The original script came with a rom from xda-dev. - dont remember the name of it
MortScript:
http://www.sto-helit.de/index.php?module=page&entry=ms_overview&action=view&menu=29
Something like that:
http://discussion.treocentral.com/showpost.php?p=1184745&postcount=17

'Disable' HTC Message app?

Hey gang,
I've just installed Handcent and its very Awesome indeed so I want to make this my default SMS/MMS app.
My question:
How can I stop the HTC Message app from running in the background and, presumably, eating battery/CPU cycles.
I've turned off notifications for the HTC Message app so I only receive SMS notifications from Handcent but I want to kill the HTC Message app permanently. I should also say that I don't want to delete or 'un-install' it.
Thanks for any ideas,
E
BTW: Handcent is sweeeeet for those that haven't tried it. Big recommend!

get a task manager to stop any app you'd like.

The bug with the HTC messaging app was activated by sending a message through it. So if you haven't *sent* one through it since rebooting the device, it shouldn't eat hardly any resources.

I find that I get double notification sounds.
I'm sure although switched off, the HTC Messaenger is still sending the notification sound through.
Either that or Handcent is doing it twice :-(

You need to disable notification from the internal app. All Programs < Messages < Menu < Settings < Uncheck auto-retrieve & uncheck Notifications.

Thanks very much for this post
I came to ask the same question and you had already asked it. My problem is solved.
And yeah...Handcent is super sweet! \m/

Anyone know how to remove messaging from the phone permanently and just have handcent?

http://android.modaco.com/content/htc-hero-hero-modaco-com/304543/bye-stock-messages-app/
Apparently some pros there have the answer.

jeremy89632 said:
http://android.modaco.com/content/htc-hero-hero-modaco-com/304543/bye-stock-messages-app/
Apparently some pros there have the answer.
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So i just went to that website and it was another forum which a guy said to go to another forum which didnt answer the question. So i just tryed it out and removed Mms.apk and replaced it with handcent and everything works.
I know this is an old post but i figured i would update it with the answer for future searchbutton users

MapleDouglas said:
You need to disable notification from the internal app. All Programs < Messages < Menu < Settings < Uncheck auto-retrieve & uncheck Notifications.
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Big tnx! I was having the same problem.

Ideas To Disable Default SMS App - Android
We're devleoping an SMS app for Android and are looking for ways to disable the default SMS app (all handset types).
Besides having the user manually disable notifications and auto-retrieve, any input on integrating and automating this with our SMS app or better ideas. Thank you.
- Adam

known issues HD2 for ROM 1.66.404.1

Hi all,
I'm experiencing some issues with my HD2, and so far they haven't been solved by HTC. I doesn't seem to find a "known issue list" per ROM, but may be I'm overlooking somehow. please let me know if there are answers to the following problems/ questions:
1. I cannot influence on the default display order of first name/last name when I sync my contacts with outlook. it always saves the "wrong way around"
2. when sending "long SMS" (text over 2 messages) the second one rarely arrives at the recipient.
3. the SMS forwarding option from the SENSE UI does not work properly: it suggests to forward the last message from the conversation modus, although I selected another one to forward. when I press "ok" from the status menu and try again, it works fine.
4. the SMS conversation modus of the SENSE only shows me the last 25 messages. when I delete some of these I get the older ones back one by one, filling up till 25 each time. I don't want to be cut after 25. Is there a setting?
5. The twitter peep app. refuses to pop a sound when a new tweet arrives, although this is setup in the sounds settings
6. Where can I set that I don't want to keep all the old tweets until the end of times? I would like to drop history older than let's say 1 week.
7. What happened to the "post time" of the tweets older than one day in the peep app? I want to keep seeing those!!
8. When I use the Google search bar from the SENSE UI, I get a nice results list. When I click these results, I go to an internal Google page that holds the main text of the internet page. at the bottom of that page I can click to go to the actual page. How can I set it up to go immediately from the results page to the actual internet page?
9. On my device it seems to be impossible to connect a bluetooth car kit headset to my device. It recognizes 20 phones that are in cars next to me but not my headsets (only tested with nokia devices).
responses much appreciated. other issues: more than welcome, but please check your ROM first.

2nd attempt

On point 9. Go to the settings tab and then click "menu" and "All Settings".
Now go to the bluetooth icon and make sure your phone is discoverable.
I had this same issue trying to pair my phone with my GPS to use the hands free functionallity.
Make sure you turn off discoverable mode once the devices are paired.
Good luck.

1 - download contact fix availble from the forums
8 - you need to go into the settings of google and change it to desktop not mobile view

Richy99 said:
1 - download contact fix availble from the forums
8 - you need to go into the settings of google and change it to desktop not mobile view
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hi for point 8 - is it only applicable to that session only ? Or is there anyway i can set permanently ? I noticed once i close and open browser again, same thing happens again. thanks

verzindrs1 said:
Hi all,
I'm experiencing some issues with my HD2, and so far they haven't been solved by HTC. I doesn't seem to find a "known issue list" per ROM, but may be I'm overlooking somehow. please let me know if there are answers to the following problems/ questions:
1. I cannot influence on the default display order of first name/last name when I sync my contacts with outlook. it always saves the "wrong way around"
2. when sending "long SMS" (text over 2 messages) the second one rarely arrives at the recipient.
3. the SMS forwarding option from the SENSE UI does not work properly: it suggests to forward the last message from the conversation modus, although I selected another one to forward. when I press "ok" from the status menu and try again, it works fine.
4. the SMS conversation modus of the SENSE only shows me the last 25 messages. when I delete some of these I get the older ones back one by one, filling up till 25 each time. I don't want to be cut after 25. Is there a setting?
5. The twitter peep app. refuses to pop a sound when a new tweet arrives, although this is setup in the sounds settings
6. Where can I set that I don't want to keep all the old tweets until the end of times? I would like to drop history older than let's say 1 week.
7. What happened to the "post time" of the tweets older than one day in the peep app? I want to keep seeing those!!
8. When I use the Google search bar from the SENSE UI, I get a nice results list. When I click these results, I go to an internal Google page that holds the main text of the internet page. at the bottom of that page I can click to go to the actual page. How can I set it up to go immediately from the results page to the actual internet page?
9. On my device it seems to be impossible to connect a bluetooth car kit headset to my device. It recognizes 20 phones that are in cars next to me but not my headsets (only tested with nokia devices).
responses much appreciated. other issues: more than welcome, but please check your ROM first.
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2, I agree totally but i dont think there is a fix for it
6, i know the only option is to manually empty the twitter cache folder.. but that will delete everything. but it will give you a fresh start...
7, didnt know there was but agree.. to fix 6 en 7 i use the app Motweets but that doesnt have intergration with sense

pool7979 said:
hi for point 8 - is it only applicable to that session only ? Or is there anyway i can set permanently ? I noticed once i close and open browser again, same thing happens again. thanks
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i dont use the internet tab i just start opera from a quicklink but once changed it should stay

1.
You have to save each contact as firstname and then surname. This you do when opened a contact, edit, then scroll all the way down to the bottom. Press the big button "MORE". Here you can "Save as" and choose first name, then surname.
Yes, from what I know, you must do this with every contact individually. When it's done, you should be able to sync and they should stay that way. At least this is what I've done, and it works for me.

1. There's a cheap app in the Marketplace called Contact Changer that will display all your contacts how you'd like.
5. Yep that's annoying. It makes the alert noise when it updates but not when you get a new tweet. Odd.
8. There's a permanent setting in Google settings to change this.

is there any fix for No. 4?

snappyfool said:
1. There's a cheap app in the Marketplace called Contact Changer that will display all your contacts how you'd like.
5. Yep that's annoying. It makes the alert noise when it updates but not when you get a new tweet. Odd.
8. There's a permanent setting in Google settings to change this.
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8. Where are the settings for that? I have the Mobile View unthicked in Settings but still, facing the same issue.