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A beauty but what a quality beast

G'day all
I recently got myself a lovely HTC wizard (branded O2 XDA Mini S, ). It's a device I've been researching for a while so I was very much excited to try out my first WM product when it arrived this morning.
However, for all it's beautiful design, it's really been a bit of a big pain on several ways. Most significantly and immediately noticable is the very sluggish interface. Some things, like notifications, I can dismiss fine, but the majority of actions, such as starting a program, opening one of the left-hand buttons or switching to landscape mode, take several (maybe 10) seconds to happen and even then the screen will only be partially and very slowly redrawn. This seems to only occur at the 'today' screen (other programs are pleasantly snappy). Anyway, it's rendering the today screen pretty useless and since it's the starting screen it means everything is taking much longer to do. Is this just my device or is this a recurring issue?
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Have you reinstalled without the o2 Active stuff (basic mode option I think). It the real hog.
Other than tat have a look around the messages is the forum for various registry hacks to speed this baby up.
It does work well, you just have to tweak the heck out of it.

So it's a matter of going around deleting stuff that 02 put on?

Basic install plus something like SPB or Magic button to close apps properly (apart from the ones you regularly use, such as phone/messaging/IE) makes the device at least twice as quick.

wilesd said:
Basic install plus something like SPB or Magic button to close apps properly (apart from the ones you regularly use, such as phone/messaging/IE) makes the device at least twice as quick.
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This is exactly what I've done on my mini S...O2 Active is really doggy, the interface looks fine, but mini S can't affort....
Basic intall with SPD Plus work fine for me....I can now play mp3 & mp4 files smoothly with beta player, connect BT GPS receiver with TT5...

To really clear all the clutter, perform a hard reset and when you get to the 'about to customise' step (short countdown) perform a soft reset.
This results in a completely clean OS thats much more responsive. SPB pocket plus is a good app to install next.
There are other registry tweaks such as disabling menu animation that make an additional improvement to the responsiveness
There are plenty of discussions about this in the other threads - have a search around.

Dunno if this works on the Wizard but on the magician, if you map one of your buttons to the "Start" menu, then you can do a lot of program switching without going via today page - and the whole re-draw of it.
Particlulrly if you chose wisely the 5 programs that you can specify for the start menu.

jacro said:
To really clear all the clutter, perform a hard reset and when you get to the 'about to customise' step (short countdown) perform a soft reset.
This results in a completely clean OS thats much more responsive. SPB pocket plus is a good app to install next.
There are other registry tweaks such as disabling menu animation that make an additional improvement to the responsiveness
There are plenty of discussions about this in the other threads - have a search around.
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The soft reset method is OK if you don't use MMS as the MMS app will not be installed, if you want to use MMS though the Basic install is better

I cleaned my mini-s the hard way
Hard reset, soft reset, then installed some of the extROM cab files manually and setup the GPRS manually too. Wizard now runs ok, its not fantasticly fast, TTN5 still takes time to load, and incoming calls while it loads cause problems (but thats only 15 secs!). Magic button is great, pick the apps you need to keep open (phone, text messages, etc) and "keep alive" and "hide when inactive" then just use close all to keep the RAM free.

Alright - I'll try one of these hard/soft reset cleans. But...
Another problem I've been having is that ActiveSync refuses to detect my device over USB. The USB connection seems fine (Windows XP detects new but unkown hardware - seems to lack an RNDIS driver or something), but a sync I can't make work.
So I can't install anything again. After a hard reset will applications such as phone and messaging be restored or will the require a reinstall (that I can't do)?
Also, remapping the buttons sounds like a brilliant idea. I'm not so big on IE so if I made that my start menu toggle I could reach a whole load of things one-handed. One thing that oft annoys me is when you have to close a program or dialogue box with the cross in the top-right. Can that be remapped to, say, the voice recorder button so I don't have to keep awkwardly touching the screen?
That Magic Button sounds handy also - freeware by any chance? I'll google it in a sec. It's annoying (well, peculiar, coming from a PalmOS background) to have several applications running at once - all that's needed is the phone/messager apps and perhaps the music player.
Thanks for all yer replies!

Phone Dialer issues. Will not run unless Soft Reset.

Anyone having an issue with their default phone dialer. Sometimes it just wont run so I can make a call. Also when I close it down from running it will freeze.
After I do a soft reset it works find for a while, then it locks again.
Redneck

maybe try a new ROM, i know it seems like a big deal for such a small problem.. but you will get new, better features. it may also be a third party app that is messing around with it. i suggest trying the new rom (WM6 Pro 3.0 by ANTC is pretty good) and avoid installing and third party apps you don't need. also, make you sure hard reset after reflashing. good luck
-Nstefanelli-

Thanks, Sounds like alot of trouble.
Why wont my signature show up????
There it is... lol

Instead of reflashing, just do a hard reset; that will clear out all applications you installed and revert your phone back to a "just installed" state. Make sure to back up any important data before initiating the hard reset.

I might try that. Will that erase all my phone numbers on the sim?
Thanks

ah at last! someone has same problem!.
its unclear, why its happening, but ie. if you press clock, of just do something to show element of gui(bubble, notification, etc, you will be able to launch phonepad normally(75%).
i am not sure, if it is ROM, custom dialpads, or installed software related...but may be dependant of today plugins(which are losing "focus"-i mean its selection blocks phonepad...
it is not pernament block, what i am talking about, launching any program, and closing it makes phonepad launchable again(xx%)..
are you using custom dialpad?
i've got that issue since mUn 4.0.0.0 roms started to appear, but it may be custom dialpad, which i started to use shortly after 4.0.0.0 variations tests.
also, it seems to be related to any flushes, that may close phone process...then it just cant be rerun( have no better words..).
telling to HR is ridiculous...

If anyone reads this and you are not having any issues please post your specs. (rom, os and others).
I have the default blue dialpad on it now and changed back from the Pauly's Vista Eten dialer and both are giving me the issues. Even a few minutes ago if happened. I am still with my 30 days of purchase with Cingular. I dont know if I should keep it or send it back.
I like all my other features. Hate that is locks and I have to softreset.
Do you think an upgrade will work?

i think you should just upgrade to WM6, i don't think you will have an issue.. since you have a g4 u will need to use the shelltool.. follow the directions here: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=293480. you will need to find a rom, and i'm still leaning towards the newest WM6 by ANTC, as it is vanilla and has no extra software attached to it.. go here: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=309078 for that. also, a hard reset won't delete the numbers on a sim card. just make sure u sync before you flash and then hard reset. good luck
-Nstefanelli-

as i said, i havent ever had this problem. i'm guessing that you are still running wm5.. so an upgrade should fix a compatability issue with software.. and you should make sure you don't put any extra software on there that you don't need. otherwise you will overload it, and it MAY happen again.
-Nstefanelli-

hmm this is annoying- new rom problem

So I put the new rom on my mogul. Love the gps. Love the task manager. However, I've run into a few problems that I would like to see if anyone else has encountered:
When i open an sms..it shows me the bottom of the screen..and not the message. not a deal breaker, but annoying.
i had just installed the rom. nothing on it... didn't even put my sd card in. soft reseted around five time to make sure... but when doing ABSO-FRICKING-LUTELY NOTHING the 68-78% of my program memory is occupied. wtf.
you too?

Right now, I have many many ways of turning on the GPS from standby.
So this is my fun part right now.
I got GPSGate, Google Map and AstroGPSLauncher to launch the GPS.
iGuidance 4 need alot of help to get going. iNAV need to work on this fast.
Other than that, it has been OK. I like the upload speed. It make my Remote Desktop more lively OK.
I think life is OK. This is something new on the Mogul, so I can understand it. It can only gets better.

trekkiemogul said:
So I put the new rom on my mogul. Love the gps. Love the task manager. However, I've run into a few problems that I would like to see if anyone else has encountered:
When i open an sms..it shows me the bottom of the screen..and not the message. not a deal breaker, but annoying.
i had just installed the rom. nothing on it... didn't even put my sd card in. soft reseted around five time to make sure... but when doing ABSO-FRICKING-LUTELY NOTHING the 68-78% of my program memory is occupied. wtf.
you too?
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SMS scrolling to the bottom upon opening a message is a known side-effect of the registry edit that changes the 4-way navigation button to scroll instead of tab to the next link on a page. HKLM\SOFTWARE\Microsoft\Internet Explorer\Navigation\4-Way Nav; 0 will scroll (and open SMS messages at the bottom), 1 will tab
I am running the OEM 3.35 ROM, with all of the Sprint customizations, and on a fresh soft reset I have 22.56MB free memory. After a day of calls, text messages, and web surfing, I usually have 16 to 18MB free. Are you running the stock ROM or a custom ROM? Have you done any registry edits that would affect the free memory, such as changing cache sizes? Also, did you do an extra hard reset after flashing the ROM?

I am having none of the problems you are describing. Where is the option on the poll for "Yes, because these problems don't exist for the rest of us"?

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muyoso said:
I am having none of the problems you are describing. Where is the option on the poll for "Yes, because these problems don't exist for the rest of us"?
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I agree...new ROM great behavior...this is by far the best that Sprint has done thus far for the Titan, even stock it runs great. I just installed SPB and my memory stays at or near 18-20 and battery never dies on me.
"Yes, because these problems don't exist for me"

i updated wednesday and i use codyppc threaded sms so i dont know about the text prob. but i dont experience any different mem loss than Mario but i dont like that they integrated the tm into the rom cuz i didnt use that either but thats my only issue

well bah. i guess i get the "i just suck" title. i have a severe love hate relationship with this phone,. heh.

Messed up Opera

Ok I fiddeled around too much and end of story deleted the settings file in the opera folder Settings.
Well I'd really love to get that file back, or even better the standard shipped opera touch hd version.
Can someone upload or tell me where to get it? Would be awesome.
Buttons are too small and the zoom levels are wrong.
Thanks.

Heaven871 said:
Ok I fiddeled around too much and end of story deleted the settings file in the opera folder Settings.
Well I'd really love to get that file back, or even better the standard shipped opera touch hd version.
Can someone upload or tell me where to get it? Would be awesome.
Buttons are too small and the zoom levels are wrong.
Thanks.
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google for opera 9.5 build 2682...

A hard reset should fix it...you silly sausage

dogbreath said:
A hard reset should fix it...you silly sausage
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that is... start/settings/system/clear storage...

Problem sorted for now, I hope. I have done a soft reset
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I seem to be getting a messed up opera.
Everytime I open opera, it loads the page correctly in potrait, but then rotate the HD to get a fuller view of the web page that I am browsing, but all the sudden my phone pad opens. It seems that everytime that I am in opera and then I turn the phone sideways, the phone pad opens. How can I stop that? Its so annoying!!!
Previously, I had installed gyrator 2, but this app completely messed up everything, so I've decided uninstalled gyrator 2. Afterwards, I hard reset to make sure I got rid of gyrator 2 and did the usual of sync with my pc, etc.
I have also uninstalled HDtweaks, not sure what good would that be (maybe someone could clarify).
I have installed and customised my HD with:
S2U2-1.35-VGA.cab
1SdkCerts.cab
Colored Top bar WWE.cab
TFL3DIconsV3.cab
CorePlayer. V1.2.5 Build 4506

I noticed S2U2 on your software list... All I know is that S2U2 has Always, on Every phone I have tried it on, screwed something up. Don't get me wrong it is great software and probably not even the cause of your particular problem, but S2U2 has given me very strange and too much annoying problems to rule it out of anything.
The worst thing was lately when I decided to try it on the HD... I just hard reset my HD after having tried a million applications, tweaks, driver changes etc. So a clean start, and since S2U2 was so buggy for me in the past I decided to install it first, to completely rule out that it would perform crap because of any other aftermarket software.
For a little while it worked. Changed some settings, the thing always tended to get confused... so changed the settings to default. Couple of unlocks later... Nice, now I only see the background when I am trying to unlock my phone to make a friggin phone call... The program is called Slide To Unlock and ironically the slider is missing meaning I cannot access my phone. Not a single area on the screen responds, of course. Pressed home key, showing TouchFLO for 100ms before S2U2 takes over again. So in a window of 100ms, I had to press the tasks button on the top right to invoke the close all apps button... crap.
So I decided I'd wait for a more stable version, and tried to uninstall it, lol yes I said tried... On the Diamond, and also on the HD, somehow this has to take like 5 or 10 minutes, for a friggin tiny itsy bitsy <1mb installer package. It just hangs and hangs and you wonder has my phone crashed. Nice. This is just a small pick from the problems I had with the software.
Edit: This is probably not the fault of S2U2, but rather my phone not wanting any iPhone-lookalike software on it

problems still persist with opera. everytime i rotate the HD, it switches to phone pad.
i think as you said it may be a bug with S2U2, im gonna uninstall S2U2.
So far so good....

[Q] Can I reinstall HTC Sense?

First let me say this is the first issue I've had to date with my HD2. As a die hard win mobile advocate, I love it and it has exceeded expectations at every turn. Today however, I seem to have a problem with HTC Sense. it will not Launch correctly. it hangs on the Launching Sense splash. the Home button is not working. the Start button (hard and soft) is working , but the display freezes anytime i do anything. for instance, i can press the Task Manager shortcut i put on my start menu, and lauch the task manager, but if i minimixe with the X, the x just disappears and the header changes from task manager to start, but the screen is left displaying the the task manager and nonworking buttons (more like a screenshot)
I'm considering restetting to factory, but thought i'd see if there was a way to reinstall sense first (if anyone might agree, thats worth trying first)
Can I reinstall HTC Sense? (without it working properly now)
Is this worth a try?
many thanks, love the forum

Markwood2k said:
First let me say this is the first issue I've had to date with my HD2. As a die hard win mobile advocate, I love it and it has exceeded expectations at every turn. Today however, I seem to have a problem with HTC Sense. it will not Launch correctly. it hangs on the Launching Sense splash. the Home button is not working. the Start button (hard and soft) is working , but the display freezes anytime i do anything. for instance, i can press the Task Manager shortcut i put on my start menu, and lauch the task manager, but if i minimixe with the X, the x just disappears and the header changes from task manager to start, but the screen is left displaying the the task manager and nonworking buttons (more like a screenshot)
I'm considering restetting to factory, but thought i'd see if there was a way to reinstall sense first (if anyone might agree, thats worth trying first)
Can I reinstall HTC Sense? (without it working properly now)
Is this worth a try?
many thanks, love the forum
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have you installed anything recently? if that is the case, try uninstalling that, soft reset and then see if sense leaunches properly. As for reinstalling sense, theres a cab floating around, but its huge...dont know if it will work for you or not as ive never tried it myself
heres the link: http://rapidshare.com/files/401944993/bigboss_Manila_2.5_2016_full.cab.html
you need to install sdcerts first for the above cab to install. it can be found here
http://www.mediafire.com/?1mmddxz2yjm
good luck!

WOW!!!
MINE DID THE VERY EXACT SAME THING Monday night. I think it was something to do with a game that I must have installed from marketplace a few minutes before it happened. One of the free XIM games i think, or maybe the bartender recipes free app. I uninstalled almost everything and soft reseted about 10 times, nothing. Sense will work for about 30-60 seconds after a reset but then all of a sudden stops working. Leaving that last screen that was open displaying with no responses to anything other then start and end keys. WTF happened??
after a reboot, quickly go and disable the sense from home setting from the setting tab before it locks up. I did that and it is working fine with Windows default or even SPB Mobile shell. Sense is fried though.
Nate
any other ideas peeps?
Markwood2k said:
First let me say this is the first issue I've had to date with my HD2. As a die hard win mobile advocate, I love it and it has exceeded expectations at every turn. Today however, I seem to have a problem with HTC Sense. it will not Launch correctly. it hangs on the Launching Sense splash. the Home button is not working. the Start button (hard and soft) is working , but the display freezes anytime i do anything. for instance, i can press the Task Manager shortcut i put on my start menu, and lauch the task manager, but if i minimixe with the X, the x just disappears and the header changes from task manager to start, but the screen is left displaying the the task manager and nonworking buttons (more like a screenshot)
I'm considering restetting to factory, but thought i'd see if there was a way to reinstall sense first (if anyone might agree, thats worth trying first)
Can I reinstall HTC Sense? (without it working properly now)
Is this worth a try?
many thanks, love the forum
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Follow up, I think it may have been an error with Twitter or HTC PEEP. I was looking around for the Peep app to see if it would run outside of sense and saw the HTC folder in the Windows (windows\htc\twitter\files) folder and found an executable Twitter app.exe. I launched it and it asked if I wanted to log out of twitter, i said yes and then later I turned on Sense and it has worked ever since.
Related??? Dont know.
but I am up and running again. I will report back if it happens again.

ok, everything is still running fine. What I did after the Sense crash.
installed SPB Mobile shell 3.5.5
tried sense a couple more times, failed each time.
Looked for and found Twitter app.exe, launched and logged out of twitter.
tried sense again, worked.
logged back into twitter
Unisntalled SPB mobile shell
No problems to note. Everythign is working as it should.
Running the latest Stock Tmobile rom as well.
seems like this thread has not had any activity lately, does that mean that the OP is not having issues now???

most probably it's not a matter of twitter app. i've never used it, was not logged in and sense still did break down, hangs while "Launching HTC Sense...". got energy ROM, happened for the second time, dunno why am tired of restoring to manufacturer defaults and wiping my device twice a year