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I know people already started projects but they all froze :|.Sadly I'm not an Android Dev but i think people should jump in and form a temporary dev team to make a port.The fastest way to do this would be to port Stratagus RTS game engine on Android.They say it's cross-platform.I've seen it on Symbian and Windows Mobile but not on Android...
Stratagus has a Starcraft mod named Stargus and recently some russians continue the project for Pocket pc named Pocket Starcraft or something like that.
Anyway it would be awesome to port Stratagus Engine to Android and then implement the mod and we get Starcraft on Android.
Oh really now ? Nobody's eager to do it? I even saw this on an Ipad :| the starcraft game based on Stratagus engine.There should be a way to port it to android If i tell you that it's OpenSource and you can download the source code does it give you guys some encouragement?
This is one of my most favourite games of all time. One of the few that I can actually play and enjoy. Even with god mode on, this game is wicked awesome. I am really that bad at playing these games that I need the god mode ^.^
I'm playing starcraft and enjoying it more then anything else .I'm even trying to reach the pro level so maybe 1 day i can enter at least 1 tournament .
So, dev time?
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Hopefully. It may be restrictive in features due to being a preview
I want to try it but hopefully our screen isn't too small for it
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Thays my only concern for 3.0...
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I got the SDK running but it's super slow and it's sideways...is this really "Android"?
Smokeey said:
I got the SDK running but it's super slow and it's sideways...is this really "Android"?
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Not to be rude or anything but did you even read the notes? Straight from the 3.0 SDK release notes:
About emulator performance
Because the Android emulator must simulate the ARM instruction set architecture on your computer and the WXGA screen is significantly larger than what the emulator normally handles, emulator performance is much slower than usual.
In particular, initializing the emulator can be slow and can take several minutes, depending on your hardware. When the emulator is booting there is limited user feedback, so please be patient and continue waiting until you see the home screen appear.
We're working hard to resolve the performance issues in the emulator and it will improve in future releases. In the meantime, we wanted to give developers access to new APIs and an basic test environment as early as possible.
Keeping in mind that performance on the emulator does not reflect the speed or performance of apps on actual devices running Android 3.0, developing and testing on the emulator is still an important tool in evaluating your application's appearance and functionality on the new platform.
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Also about the "sideways" issue:
Android 3.0 is the next major release of the Android platform and is optimized for tablet devices.
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ProTekk said:
Not to be rude or anything but did you even read the notes? Straight from the 3.0 SDK release notes:
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Also about the "sideways" issue:
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Any SDK will be slow dude, also sideways IS AN ISSUE, regardless of it being tablet only it still shouldn't be. Please, do not flame. What I meant with "Is this really "Android"?" is "Is this really what Android is becoming". No need to be so hard on me...
To flip portrait, hit Control + F12, or F11.
I was surfing the internet and realized someone on xda made a program called "chainfire 3d"....here is the market link....https://market.android.com/details?id=eu.chainfire.cf3d&feature=search_result
the program allows you to change your drivers to nvidia drives and im now able to play samurai II vengeance (which is only meant for tegra 2 phones)....here is the instructions to get the driver to work...http://forum.mobilism.org/viewtopic.php?f=399&t=199488
The game runs perfectly on my phone and I haven't noticed any side effects yet..
p.s. the programs allows to even use the qualcomm drivers as well
EDIT....make sure journaling is on...here is the link for journaling......http://forum.xda-developers.com/show....php?t=1071723
thanks @063_XOBX for the heads up for having journaling on before....have a nandroid backuop before applying this as well
p.s. some roms already have journaling on, so make sure to check on that before you flash the "journaling on" zip
O.O thanks for sharing! I'm going to try this out later.
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I saw that yesterday but didn't even think of a use for it. Awesome that it works.
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Just a warning for anyone who runs no-journaled, it will force reboot your phone which might cause issues.
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Just a warning for anyone who runs no-journaled, it will force reboot your phone which might cause issues.
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thanks for the heads didnt know that....and here is the link for it...if anyone needs it btw.......http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1071723
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Just a warning for anyone who runs no-journaled, it will force reboot your phone which might cause issues.
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for some reason after journaling..i cant make the app work anymore..why is that
kobby2k6 said:
for some reason after journaling..i cant make the app work anymore..why is that
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Are you on EXT4?
yea im on ext 4..the app was working perfectly and then i turned my phone off (normally) and then flashed the journal app and it was a dark screen when my phone booted...so i restored by nandroid backup and my phone works now...i think journaling messes up the app but im not sure...im starting over and see if i can get journaling and the app working together...did you have journaling on before??
The question is, are there any Tegra 2 games that are worth buying right now?
muyoso said:
The question is, are there any Tegra 2 games that are worth buying right now?
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Fruit Ninja THD is pretty nice, but not enough changes other than having multiplayer (it's splitscreen, not online)
I'm trying Samurai II: Vengeance right now. I'll report back after. So far it seems good.
@whosdaman: download the Tegra Zone app off the market.
Where do you get the Tegra Games?
Alright, I've had enough time to test out Samurai II: Vengeance and the verdict is it's good. It's not amazing, but it's very smooth, seems like an interesting story, and time consuming. However, it is the classic "Hit, hit, slice, roll" controls that can seem repetitive if that's not your style. Otherwise, for a gamer like myself I think it's worth it.
Fruit Ninja THD isn't worth the upgrade, but if you've never tried Fruit Ninja before, get THD immediately!
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Where do you get the Tegra Games?
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Download Tegra Zone off the market.
https://market.android.com/details?id=com.nvidia.tegrazone&feature=search_result
Holy crap does it work flawlessly. That is kinda pathetic for the Tegra 2 that our phones can play their games effortlessly with a hacked opengl driver. I thought the games would at least be chugging a little bit, but they are perfect. At least Samurai II: Vengeance is.
About to try Monster Madness.
Edit: Monster Madness does not work.
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Holy crap it does work flawlessly. That is kinda pathetic for the Tegra 2 that our phones can play their games effortlessly with a hacked opengl driver. I thought the games would at least be chugging a little bit, but they are perfect. At least Samurai II: Vengeance is.
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Agreed! Although, this shouldn't be shocking. The reason why these games are meant for dual-core is because of the CPU usage these games use, and their ability to drain the battery pretty quickly if you play for a decent amount of time. Our phones do run the games well, however it does take up a lot of CPU usage, which is why Dual-core is more efficient since it can balance the memory between each processor without stressing either one.
But, does that really matter if you're home or at work next to a charger trying to find a way to pass some time? Of course not. Which is why this is amazing.
Chainfire is a god. Almost makes me want to find out what phone he has and switch to that. He just singlehandedly saved Android a HUGE amount of fragmentation. Seeing developers make games and apps that could only run on a specific hardware setup was worrying to me more than any other sort of fragmentation.
muyoso said:
Monster Madness does not work.
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It's only on Tablets right now, I think.
If you look at the Tegra Zone app, it's released for Android phones sometime in June.
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Chainfire is a god. Almost makes me want to find out what phone he has and switch to that. He just singlehandedly saved Android a HUGE amount of fragmentation. Seeing developers make games and apps that could only run on a specific hardware setup was worrying to me more than any other sort of fragmentation.
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Think he has nexus s or i9000
Did the news get around about a guy named butcher pete?
i figured everything out...i started over by restoring my nandroid backup...im running urbanlegend rom and i think it already has journaling on (im not sure and I don't know how to check if its on or not)...everything I flashed the zip for the "journaling on", my phone bootlooped...so i restored my old backup and just ran the app and everything works perfectly now...the chainfire app will works now and i am currently playing samurai ( a bit repetitive but a great game)
[email protected] i think this chainfire guy might have solved the android gaming issue also (hopefully)...being able to play games for different processers is awesome and i hope our galaxy s can keep up with the new processers and games that come out next year
the lack of a nvidia chipset is the only bump that is stopping me from getting a Galx2
I just updated to 2.3.3 by flashing the 2.3.3 system image on the state of development page. FPSE used to run flawless on 2.3.2 and now using 2.3.3 it runs the playstation intro slow and the games have some horrible lag .. Im thinking about re flashing back down to 2.3.2
Anyone got any ideas why Fpse sucks on a better firmware?
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I just updated to 2.3.3 by flashing the 2.3.3 system image on the state of development page. FPSE used to run flawless on 2.3.2 and now using 2.3.3 it runs the playstation intro slow and the games have some horrible lag .. Im thinking about re flashing back down to 2.3.2
Anyone got any ideas why Fpse sucks on a better firmware?
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It works fine for me :/
Have your FPSE setting reset? make sure HLE is disabled and that the choose the bios (HLE is just a slower setting you can choose so you dont need the bios)
Make sure frame skip is enabled, filtering is off, and SPU sync is off.
Why are you using FPSE anyway?
PSXperia Tool is a lot better! as it uses sony's own engine so it's much faster and the analog sticks work perfectly.
Hmm maybe I should swtich to psxperia
With 2.3.2 I had video options at default, spu sync on and battles in FF7 would play great with no lag, after the flash/update 2.3.3 its like a slug.
Wanna hear something funny guys?
I've tried both psx & fpse. Psx runs badly with lag in most games whereas fpse runs super smooth...
Strange how different programs work differently for people...
Get out a androzip, Navigate towards your ps game and enable text editor. In text editor put software rendering to true
I used the XDA App to post this, what did you use?
kanej2006 said:
Wanna hear something funny guys?
I've tried both psx & fpse. Psx runs badly with lag in most games whereas fpse runs super smooth...
Strange how different programs work differently for people...
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Yeah same here, FPSE works great for me, unlike PSXperia that has a lot of graphic glitches..
Sith sw-rendring?
I used the XDA App to post this, what did you use?
try clearing your caches and if that doesnt work do a factory reset. youve probably got crap leftover somewhere thats screwing it up.
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Sith sw-rendring?
I used the XDA App to post this, what did you use?
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http://forum.xda-developers.com/showpost.php?p=17544586&postcount=98
Tried that before, no effect.
One thing to note that if you upgraded to 2.3.3 from fastbooting the system file, you did not also upgrade the kernel. I believe with 2.3.3 there was also an upgrade to the kernel. I would wait until there is a kernel file available from the OTA and then fastboot both files and see if the problem is still there.
Hello everybody.
If anyone is interested how our device performs next to the "big boy" like One X, here is a video showing you exactly that.
Besides, it prooves absolutely the oposite of what HTC have said about our device running better android 2.3.5 than android 4.0.
Make love, not war!
miHah
I started watching this video and then he started talking. Clothes instantly came off.
Benicio del Toro??????
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Great video! What ROM are you using?
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Yes, would be interessting to know which ROM is used on the DHD. Runs really smooth in my opinion. Currently i'm using Virtuos Infinity v1.30.0 Alpha 1.
This video actually doesn't prove a thing. You usually don't see much of a difference unless you did something more resource heavy than what I saw him do in the video.
Thanks a lot man U have just confirmed what we all were suspecting. This device is more than capable for running ICS and HTC just want us to buy another cellphone
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Yes, would be interessting to know which ROM is used on the DHD. Runs really smooth in my opinion. Currently i'm using Virtuos Infinity v1.30.0 Alpha 1.
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It's using Primo s v3.5 as you can see when he gos to the software version
Actually marl30 is right, you can take any phone and do those things fairly quickly, the difference is in the heavy using. What is the point of having ICS if your phone will not be able to play games as smoothly as it used to before. Some people would say they don't need games, but that is not the issue. A company such as HTC is obliged to provide a ROM with full functionality, heavy gaming included. If in their opinion DHD is not capable of running games on ICS the same way it was on GB then their not releasing ICS for DHD would be fully understandable. Although I tried gaming on HTC and must say that there is little difference in performance. The issue is that the drivers are not perfect and sometimes there are glitches on the screen or some lights missing.
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Actually marl30 is right, you can take any phone and do those things fairly quickly, the difference is in the heavy using. What is the point of having ICS if your phone will not be able to play games as smoothly as it used to before. Some people would say they don't need games, but that is not the issue. A company such as HTC is obliged to provide a ROM with full functionality, heavy gaming included. If in their opinion DHD is not capable of running games on ICS the same way it was on GB then their not releasing ICS for DHD would be fully understandable. Although I tried gaming on HTC and must say that there is little difference in performance. The issue is that the drivers are not perfect and sometimes there are glitches on the screen or some lights missing.
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1- little difference.
2- nothing is perfect, even htc's last oficial rom was buggy
3- of course there are glitches, devs here are either porting from other phones or building from ground up and doing a hell of a good job.
4- and yeah, I do agree with your initial statement - but that is not the issue as stated beforehand.
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Don't get me wrong, I also think we should get ICS or even JB. I believe that it would run like hell on our DHDs. I'm only saying that you can't compare those two phones barely on such mundane tasks like opening an sms app or launching facebook. The test with locking and unlocking the phone is just playing stupid. You can take any new phone and compare it to any old phone and the result will be the same, the task is designed to be easy on the phone so to be accomplished quickly.
Try running these two through a benchmark or measure the framerate on some gameloft games (Asphalt, GT Motor Academy etc.) the difference will be huge.
Quite frankly, to me the only viable reason for us is the fact that HTC One V (or One S) is actually the same phone as our DHD but with ****ty camera, and that thing is getting ICS. So if the same hardware with worse camera can operate sufficiently under ICS why can't the DHD. It obviously is a scam on us customers to make us leave the great device that we have and go spend our money on some new HTC phone. If you ask me that whole thing with ICS helped me with a decision, I know now that my next phone will not be HTC, probably SGS III or Note 2, at least they get support.
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The test with locking and unlocking the phone is just playing stupid. You can take any new phone and compare it to any old phone and the result will be the same, the task is designed to be easy on the phone so to be accomplished quickly.
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Yes, but both devices use same software so its only the matter of hardware (and cpu scheduler) how fast they unlock But yea, it clearly did not proove anything besides that Desire HD can run Ice Cream Sandwich like big phones can. I think that was the point?
Well, almost. What I meant was that running ICS is one thing, other thing is to run apps on ICS. In the same way you can compare an old PC and a new PC. Old one will run games ok under Win XP. New one will run games the same under Win7. But if you install Win7 on the old PC the system itself will run fine, simple tasks will run as well as on the new one but you will not be able to play your games anymore.
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Well, almost. What I meant was that running ICS is one thing, other thing is to run apps on ICS. In the same way you can compare an old PC and a new PC. Old one will run games ok under Win XP. New one will run games the same under Win7. But if you install Win7 on the old PC the system itself will run fine, simple tasks will run as well as on the new one but you will not be able to play your games anymore.
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Comparing windows to android is like comparing a toyota to a benz.
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The idea is the same. Comparison to windows was merely to exemplify my point.
haerigrek said:
The idea is the same. Comparison to windows was merely to exemplify my point.
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I got your point (edit: maybe I didn't), but it is not the same to put a benz engine in a toyota frame than a toyota engine in a benz.
Android is basically linux (someone correct me if I wrong), and linux is developed in such a way you can put it in older machines and works much better than windows in the same machine.
If android follows the same philosophy, then there is no reason why a fully optimized ics or jb can't work on our dhd's/inspires.
I may be wrong and I may have digressed from your initial premise, if I did sorrry.
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I got your point (edit: maybe I didn't), but it is not the same to put a benz engine in a toyota frame than a toyota engine in a benz.
Android is basically linux (someone correct me if I wrong), and linux is developed in such a way you can put it in older machines and works much better than windows in the same machine.
If android follows the same philosophy, then there is no reason why a fully optimized ics or jb can't work on our dhd's/inspires.
I may be wrong and I may have digressed from your initial premise, if I did sorrry.
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You are correct. Because every update does not make the system resource heavy, but its optimized so it runs smoother and buttery good, like jelly bean. Its not like windows - they are heavier and heavier because they want people to buy new computers. Remember - windows has 85% sales when people buy windows preinstalled on computers. You cant compare it with android or cars (cars and engine - you are talking hardware here, we are all about software)
miHah said:
Hello everybody.
If anyone is interested how our device performs next to the "big boy" like One X, here is a video showing you exactly that.
Besides, it prooves absolutely the oposite of what HTC have said about our device running better android 2.3.5 than android 4.0.
Make love, not war!
miHah
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I.. do not fully understand. You show a video proving the animation speeds are the same? If im not mistaken, arnt the animations made to run at a certain speed? If thats the case then the video really doesnt prove anything between the two phones.
HTC should learn something from this.. The developers in XDA can do this so why cant the engineers at HTC??
They should hire their developers from XDA
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I.. do not fully understand. You show a video proving the animation speeds are the same? If im not mistaken, arnt the animations made to run at a certain speed? If thats the case then the video really doesnt prove anything between the two phones.
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In video it was pointed out that all setting on both phones are the same, so its all matter of harware how the phones perform.
ErnestoD said:
Thanks a lot man U have just confirmed what we all were suspecting. This device is more than capable for running ICS and HTC just want us to buy another cellphone
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We all know HTC i not being sincere by saying we wont have a nice experience on ICS... Its just some marketing decisions.. Stupid company..