Should I even make a post about this. I'll delete if no one cares or this is not the place for it...
installing the LWP/opengl fix made games like Speedx 3D run like cold molasses. Even when a LWP isn't set as the wallpaper
Why?
scirio said:
Should I even make a post about this. I'll delete if no one cares or this is not the place for it...
installing the LWP/opengl fix made games like Speedx 3D run like cold molasses. Even when a LWP isn't set as the wallpaper
Why?
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He posted that that would happen on his website. Even the LWPs are slow. It's something to do with the version of openGL he got being a full version I believe.
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It turns out that our OpenGL has some issues. This patch will give you the full open gl es to correct the issue. The LWP’s may be a little glitchy at times however this should resolve any issues.
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FYI... this isn't my fix. I only put together the update.zip to help make the transition easy for everyone. I don't want there to be confusion and anyone to think I'm claiming I made this work. heh.
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I lol'd. But yea... OpenGL is programming for 2d/3d stuff. By messing with it, it's going to make some 2d/3d games not work properly. It's a trade off for LWP. There is also an undo patch on my website if you change your mind.
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Just FYI... this isn't my fix. I only put together the update.zip to help make the transition easy for everyone.
I lol'd. But yea... OpenGL is programming for 2d/3d stuff. By messing with it, it's going to make some 2d/3d games not working properly. It's a trade off for LWP. There is also an undo patch on my website if you change your mind.
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Heh. Thought you'd be amused.
And for what it's worth I did indeed use the undo patch. Couldn't handle not having gallery and a few other things unusable. I'll just stick with the 3-4 lwp's that don't shut down when the phone sleeps and deal with it
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Heh. Thought you'd be amused.
And for what it's worth I did indeed use the undo patch. Couldn't handle not having gallery and a few other things unusable. I'll just stick with the 3-4 lwp's that don't shut down when the phone sleeps and deal with it
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Which one's won't shut down?
flipzmode said:
FYI... this isn't my fix. I only put together the update.zip to help make the transition easy for everyone. I don't want there to be confusion and anyone to think I'm claiming I made this work. heh.
I lol'd. But yea... OpenGL is programming for 2d/3d stuff. By messing with it, it's going to make some 2d/3d games not work properly. It's a trade off for LWP. There is also an undo patch on my website if you change your mind.
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IDK what anyone else is experiencing, but the zip on your site made my LWP run great with no issues whatsoever. I flashed it on RegawMOD and other ROMS and had no issues. Made the LWP stick and run better and faster than anyone elses ROMS. MAybe its just my phone, but thanks.
Well I am not 100% positive but I think the patch is why the navigation app is telling me where to go but there is no map. Can you guys try running navigation (maps app works fine but the navigation does not).
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Fireworks (which tends to FC)
Digital Rain
Zoomfield
Bezier (haven't tested, someone else said that stuck).
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Well I am not 100% positive but I think the patch is why the navigation app is telling me where to go but there is no map. Can you guys try running navigation (maps app works fine but the navigation does not).
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anyone?
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It works for me.. And it will even show a picture of my destination. I just cant do street view.
Mines not showing a map, in navigation mode, either.
a couple of the lwp's that come with substrate stick as well... I use sand traveller in blue and love it. Also andwobble sticks pretty good and is quite entertaining.
sticks without opengl fix I mean
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Is there any rom that can be flashed that the trackball,sound and has lwp that fully works.
No
10char...
Awe man, no one has one without problems.....
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how are you immune to the ten character limit?
you smart bastard
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how are you immune to the ten character limit?
you smart bastard
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I thought that I had screen burn in when I saw that LOL
lol
you must be like me, constantly playing around with the mouse and highlighting random stuff on the screen
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lol
you must be like me, constantly playing around with the mouse and highlighting random stuff on the screen
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Hi
If you can read this...
lick my balls
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how are you immune to the ten character limit?
you smart bastard
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is this a board rule or something?
anyways to the OP no current 2.1 is fully functional without issues. use a 1.5 if you want that, i recommend pancake without sense.
if you want a fully working 2.1 rom wait until the devs get their hands on the final build released from sprint hopefully this month?
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Hi to you too.
No thanks.
Cool, thanks I am running fresh2.0d and I like this rom but the trackball light and the sound issue concerns me, because I dont know if it is fixed. I downloaded the fix but last night I got no sound again after I changed my autokiller setting,so I changed It back and it has been ringing all day, so I dont know if it is really fixed.....
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mmmmm good
Fresh 2.0d has lwp (they don't work in Sense, but that is a problem with Sense), it has the trackball fixed, though all the button lights have some weird glitch, you'd have to try it to see it, but at least the trackball is in sync with those buttons. It also has all the sound working as well. I highly recommend it. I've been using it since it came out and I'd say its 100% functional with virtually no issues.
On RegawMOD 2.0.2p, I have LWP running and sticking with the regular Home, not sense, but they do stick. you need the 2 apks for it though.
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Cool, thanks I am running fresh2.0d and I like this rom but the trackball light and the sound issue concerns me, because I dont know if it is fixed. I downloaded the fix but last night I got no sound again after I changed my autokiller setting,so I changed It back and it has been ringing all day, so I dont know if it is really fixed.....
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I don't think it is. People have gone 20+ hours just to have the problem happen again. the fix seems to stave it off temporarily but as I have found, it seems to come back sooner or later. Oddly enough, some people just don't seem to have the bug at all. It is an issue in the audio driver of the kernel though, it is there in everyones phone. Just haven't figured out what causes the bug to surface in some peoples phones but not others.
So is there a new update because I have fresh 2.0 and the trackball did work until I dounloaded the sound fix and the trackball light went away...
So it still has the 7 screens or is it the one screen?
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Hey.
Not a chance.
I'm running that Raga-muffin-mod or whatever it is...and I'm not having any issues. Trackball works. but...what sound are you talking about? and what is LWP?
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I'm running that Raga-muffin-mod or whatever it is...and I'm not having any issues. Trackball works. but...what sound are you talking about? and what is LWP?
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My hero makes lots of sounds. LWP = Live Wallpaper
Every so often with 2.1 fresh my phone has no speaker sound in or out unlees you reboot the phone and lwp is live wallpapers.....
I understand the need to tweak, but it seems that tweaking OpenGL only seems to improve LWPs, at the sacrifice of 3D games and Google Maps.
I'm running FreshToast 1.1, and I think it has a hacked up OpenGL.
Google Maps Navigation works, but the screen "blinks" every 2-3 seconds, and to be honest, the 3D performance in gaming is worse than my 1.5 ROM without overclocking or JIT or anything. Damage Control (whichever one he didn't mess with OpenGL) seemed to work just as good as 1.5
Is OpenGL baked into the Kernel? Or can I just push some files and have OpenGL back to the way it was from the "original" sprint release, or whatever it is that works with Google Nav.
herm... ive done nothing to opengl in my build. that is the same opengl that is in every single 2.1 RUU. the same libs that are gonna be in the official update from Sprint. the kernel however has been modified. but only modified to support opengl 1.1 which is eclair opengl. my kernel drivers actually work better then the .29 kernel drivers. producing better fps and better blit ability then .29 kernel drivers. if a game runs funny and is blinking and such it could be the game itself or the games lack of support for opengl 1.1. if ur sayin the games u play work better in cupcake then idk what to say. other then that load up cupcake and run neocore. come back and give me a report. i doubt ur gonna get anything close to what opengl1.1 produces.
as for the LWP opengl kill. all they are doing is adding cupcake opengl libs or noncompatable opengl libs and getting LWP to work. i have not done this and actually think its pointless. but some dont play games and just want some cool LWPs. who am i to judge?
anyhow in my build ur getting the same opengl that ur gonna get in any eclair build using eclair libs. love it or hate it there is nothing we can do about it. the only advantage to using mine and the other OC builds is the CPU is able to process the information faster. thus giving u better frame rates. this all varies of course on the game and what it wants. ive played a few games in testing and have found OC, opengl1.1, and BFS have given a much better feel and framerates. while others may feel good and run smooth but have glitchy bitmaps and textures. for example: homerunbattle... it has awesome actual game play but there seem to be textures that flip out. on the other hand ive played toonwarz which really sucked before, but is totally smooth and actually playable now. also R.thunder lite has shown major improvements. it even says its for high end devices and before all the cpu and shed mods it was totally unplayable. now its playable and actually fun if u ditch the sound to improve frame rates. so yeah i can see where ur coming from. but i also know that OC, BFS, and opengl 1.1 together have made my hero go from playing pong to actually rendering some awesome games. a few glitches and pixelation is to be exspected if ur gonna push a device to play a game it wasnt meant to, or crank the cpu up to get better frame rates. it all come down to hardware. were never gonna make the hero run like a nexus. but..... ive given it the boyscout effort.
also i welcome people to review my kernel source and if they find improvements to submit changes. if u got a better way to make our hardware render please pm me make a patch, or whatever. i be glad to sign ur name to it and push it to my tree.
is there no command or syntax for disabling the opengl in a smali in the lwp's to make them stick? also, I've seen some magic roms with a sup setup app that has an option to disable 3d... I'm assuming this means opengl, as I am pretty damn sure they don't have a seperate gpu, is it possible to make this work on our hero's? Turn it off for keeping your lwp's, turning it on to play games?
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i love how your like one of the smartest guys here but have the worst grammer
gives hope to us small time guys
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lmfao
grammar* ;/
nice sig!
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lol!
case&point
its thanks to toast i have any hope left
I meant no disrespect as far as your work is considered toast, sorry if it came off that way. You and Flipz have "the hottest ****" (no other way to put it ;-) ).
I'm actually referring to two separate issues. One is Google Maps Navigation. The 3D moving map blinking. I was running Aloyouis (however you spell it) and I know he was doing something with the OpenGL and in turn it broke Google Nav. Now after running Google Nav on freshtoast it works, but is very glitchy. On Aloyouis it was just a black screen. I assumed it had something to do with making LWP work.
The other is actual gameplay lag. I'll have to try toonwarz again. I remember it seemed cool, but too laggy. The game I was referring to in particular was Armagodon Squadron. Then again it may be due to the fact that It's loading a lot of textures off the SD card (A2SD) I'll try putting it on internal memory.
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i love how your like one of the smartest guys here but have the worst grammer
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fail
and with open gl. i get that weird flashing sometimes with rthunder2. but not bad. i game too on my hero. thats why i left blackberry in the first place. but anyways the .27 OC kernel and my modified rom plays rthunder2 smooth even with sound.
no offense taken(even on the grammar crack). anyhow i was trying to inform. many people are misinformed on these forums. i see things all the time like "opengl fix" and "kernel hack", that are far from what the mods really are. "opengl fix" really means "broken opengl so u can have nicer lwp" and " kernel mod" really means "added a few lines to the ramdisk". its kinda funny from my point of view because most actually think its some sort of real "fix" or "mod to the kernel". being misinformed is what started this thread. if the "rom devs" that use those terms wouldve been more descriptive of what they actually did. then u wouldve known what "opengl fix" really meant. but its also a domino effect that causes that to happen. when i see a fix im not all jumping head first to be first man out. i actually look at what was done and try to figure out how it was done. anyhow im always here to help everyone and when i seen the post i knew u needed to know a few things about the "opengl fixes" that have been gong around.
In that case, are you aware of the "glitching" in google maps nav?
Its as if when driving, its loading a different set of images (maps) and flashes it for a few ms every say.... 5-8 seconds.
I just noticed there is an update for google maps, so im going to update and see if its fixed tomorrow when I do my errand runs.
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In that case, are you aware of the "glitching" in google maps nav?
Its as if when driving, its loading a different set of images (maps) and flashes it for a few ms every say.... 5-8 seconds.
I just noticed there is an update for google maps, so im going to update and see if its fixed tomorrow when I do my errand runs.
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ill try it in the mornin
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ill try it in the mornin
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I agree, I saw the flashes in google nav, but just blew it off and not sure why its happening. It doesnt really bother me, but if it can be fixed, then thats great!
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no offense taken(even on the grammar crack). anyhow i was trying to inform. many people are misinformed on these forums. i see things all the time like "opengl fix" and "kernel hack", that are far from what the mods really are. "opengl fix" really means "broken opengl so u can have nicer lwp" and " kernel mod" really means "added a few lines to the ramdisk". its kinda funny from my point of view because most actually think its some sort of real "fix" or "mod to the kernel". being misinformed is what started this thread. if the "rom devs" that use those terms wouldve been more descriptive of what they actually did. then u wouldve known what "opengl fix" really meant. but its also a domino effect that causes that to happen. when i see a fix im not all jumping head first to be first man out. i actually look at what was done and try to figure out how it was done. anyhow im always here to help everyone and when i seen the post i knew u needed to know a few things about the "opengl fixes" that have been gong around.
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lol whats wrong with his grammar, hahaha thats how everyone talks online, i use most of those words when texting, i hardcore say gonna, i hate typing out going to.
I plan on updating later today now they we finally have working camera! Has anyone had any problems with it so far?
I am using it. So far so good.
It has been really nice so far.
Only issue I have had is LWP in sense. Seems to drag the phone to a crawl.
Was there a new thread made about it? I can't seem to find it, and all I see is FreshToast 1.1 when I search. Care to link, please?
No thread. Only out to people who have donated right now.
Ohh I see. I guess I'll just wait around then. Thanks!
I'm waiting to charge my battery to try it. Sounds really promising though.
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How much is it?
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How much is it?
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how much is what?
I'm looking forward to it. It'll be cool to have setcpu and camera. Thanks to flipz, toast, and all other devs
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I'm looking forward to it. It'll be cool to have setcpu and camera. Thanks to flipz, toast, and all other devs
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I just setup JIT also and it is nice actually having the camera with it. I'm using GDE and getting 4.611 MFLOPS.
to pay for the rom...
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to pay for the rom...
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He isn't charging for the ROM. But those who donate do get earlier access to the beta releases from him. I don't know as there is a set price. Just what you feel I guess is the way he sees it.
I'm using it.
CPU is scaling perfectly to 768Mhz and the camera works!!!!
Haven't done any benchmarks yet.
Only thing I've run into so far, is that the weather animations on the sense home screen are busted. Just a bunch of gray rectangles. Like the texture pngs are missing...
I have not tried LWP. I'm done with LWP. Its cool and all... but I'll just wait for the EVO when it's done right
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I'm using it.
CPU is scaling perfectly to 768Mhz and the camera works!!!!
Haven't done any benchmarks yet.
Only thing I've run into so far, is that the weather animations on the sense home screen are busted. Just a bunch of gray rectangles. Like the texture pngs are missing...
I have not tried LWP. I'm done with LWP. Its cool and all... but I'll just wait for the EVO when it's done right
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I think the weather animations are a small price to pay for overclock and camera on 2.1
im using it and its great.. LWP as reported slows stuff down big time. Another problem i'm having is getting Ap2sd to work right. I had everything working great and then i moved dalvik and my apps to my partition and haven't been able to get the dang thing to boot after that.. Anyone else having this problem?
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Oh absolutely!!!
I'm using beautiful widgets anyways for my clock... Just thought I'd mention it.
Like I said... Ive given up on LWP. Its cool, but not worth the resources IMO...
No. My Dalvik-cache is working fine. I did a2sd cache and a2sd nocache without issues.
Do a2sd check and let me know the results.
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im using it and its great.. LWP as reported slows stuff down big time. Another problem i'm having is getting Ap2sd to work right. I had everything working great and then i moved dalvik and my apps to my partition and haven't been able to get the dang thing to boot after that.. Anyone else having this problem?
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Running great. Phone is flying.
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For GPS and compass issues, but never have seen any evidence. .. anyone got a link, I'd just like to see it with my own eyes instead of speculating. ... thanks
Didn't think there was a statement directly from them.
I think you're right that there's no official statement from them. I think it's just what people have heard from the tech support folks at Samsung (and now also from TMo).
i just spoke to a rep and they've stated that *there aren't any updates planned to be released by samsung* *if they do, there will be information on the website* i kindly told them that they need to fix the slow screen to screen scrolling, gps, error connecting when using friends feed and replying to someone
other than that, the phone is excellent.
wrong thread. ignore.
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i just spoke to a rep and they've stated that *there aren't any updates planned to be released by samsung* *if they do, there will be information on the website* i kindly told them that they need to fix the slow screen to screen scrolling, gps, error connecting when using friends feed and replying to someone
other than that, the phone is excellent.
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Try a game using the accelerometer. .. its extremely fubared. .. try doodle jump or hell a free one hyperspace lite. .. you will see how messed up the 6 axis motion sensor they tout is.
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Try a game using the accelerometer. .. its extremely fubared. .. try doodle jump or hell a free one hyperspace lite. .. you will see how messed up the 6 axis motion sensor they tout is.
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Just tried hyperspace lite. Thanks for the suggestion. Its pretty cool.
That makes three games I have players that use the accelerometer for controls (also replica island labrynth) and so far I find the accelerometer to be excellent.
WAY better, or instance, than playing similar games on the wii.
I just emailed Samsung about the issue, and asked them what the time frame of it being publicly addressed and fixed would be. I suggest everyone having issues do the same. I have not heard back yet, but will post their response when I do.
I also just got off the phone with T-Mobile tech support. They said they will not swap the phone out for the GPS issue, as it's a known issue and a different unit will not make a difference. They also had me do the keypad fix, (*#*#ect.) and it didn't give me any different results from the last time I tried it, other than the loss of signal I had last time.
I asked what Samsung has said to them about the issue and her response was there is no timeframe on when this will be fixed, but Samsung is aware for of the issue and are working on it.
Basically the same stuff everyone else is saying. 6 days left for me before I return the phone. I hope something happens soon.
beren28 said:
Just tried hyperspace lite. Thanks for the suggestion. Its pretty cool.
That makes three games I have players that use the accelerometer for controls (also replica island labrynth) and so far I find the accelerometer to be excellent.
WAY better, or instance, than playing similar games on the wii.
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On the contrare. . Try homering battle 3g. There you will see... after that you will no what I mean and every game using the accelerometer takes a split second to really orientate......
It is flawed. ..
Or try hyperspace again and pay attention... then close it and download android sensor data... open that app, now go back to the game and notice how Mich faster it moves and how Mich more it responds... another game is speedx 3d... so hard to control then open android sensor data and its smooth as butter...
Please check again, it works sometimes like the first time then after that you will notice slow response. ..
beren28 said:
Just tried hyperspace lite. Thanks for the suggestion. Its pretty cool.
That makes three games I have players that use the accelerometer for controls (also replica island labrynth) and so far I find the accelerometer to be excellent.
WAY better, or instance, than playing similar games on the wii.
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Try papijump..... notice how when you tilt it takes a second for the dude to respond to ya movement. .. then close it completely, open android sensor data and try again, its a lot smoother...... like the app calibrates the sensors or something...
We need more people to see this issue as not many people know about it... but I play games using accelerometer and notice its not right until that apps started first.
Tried your sensor data trick. Not noticing any difference.
eta: I have always sucked at these types of games on the wii or other phones, but I am doing quite well (comparatively) on the vibrant.
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Tried your sensor data trick. Not noticing any difference.
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OK have you tried homerun battle 3d? If you don't have it ill pm you... I need you to see this..... I know its there....
Downloading the lite version now.
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Downloading the lite version now.
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Cool. That should work... it may be smooth on try 1. But exit completely and try again, the shadow on the bat chops around and its supposed to be smooth.... then once choppy try that app again...
Thanks for testing this.. I've read others have same issue just no one really can see. This game should do it though...
I pmed you also..
Edit: if ya already opened that sensor app it wont play bad....
Must reset phone, don't run app, then try game, then when ****ty open app it'll fix everygame... but since ya opened it it will run smooth... must reset.
After completely resetting the phone, I am no getting what you described. Was definitely not seeing this before reseting, meaning something else I had done had "fixed" it somehow. No idea what.
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After completely resetting the phone, I am no getting what you described. Was definitely not seeing this before reseting, meaning something else I had done had "fixed" it somehow. No idea what.
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Its not major, just a slight stutter which in really meticulous games like asphalt 5 speeding around corners it will effect you...
But run that app after reset, even close it, for some reason now the sensor is flawless. Lime the app calibrates it somehow......
I was cool on all bugs till this, cause I'm a gamer, but luckily someone found that app in another thread, makes it flawless....
Its like first time ever playing the app, it plays fine, but then next time its wack... really strange. I can't believe no one else noticed on games like those, I notice the slightest weirdness.
http://www.androidpolice.com/2010/0...ive-wallpapers-leaked-available-for-download/
The R2D2 is coming later this month, but in the meantime P3Droid from MyDroidWorld ripped apart the system dump and weeded out the special edition Star Wars themed live wallpapers. He was also kind enough to shoot a few handy videos demonstrating them, and I must say, they’re pretty cool and will definitely be appreciated by any Star Wars fan. Kudos, P3.
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Very cool OP. I'll definitely try these out. Thanks for posting these.
I don't really like star wars but those are some pretty cool live wallpapers.
does it work?
i tried jump to lightspeed, installed and had it running, but when i shook the phone, nth happeneD??
lol too bad those rely on g sensor which as of now most people have turned off
I tried it with the g sensor on and it didnt work. I usually have my cpu underclocked and I set it to 1ghz and couldnt get it to do it either. I will try the rest also.
they didn't work for me just got fc
edit: works fine just had to reboot before they would work
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lol too bad those rely on g sensor which as of now most people have turned off
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G-sensor works quite well for me. Sorry you haven't got that to work yet.
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I don't really like star wars but those are some pretty cool live wallpapers.
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you don't like Star Wars blasphemy
Not working for me...love to get it running tho
These aren't the live wallpapers you are lookin... wait, what am I saying, these are the live wallpaper I was looking for. Thanks.
Edit: They don't work, even after a reboot. Well they show up but g-sensor doesn't work. Oh well, they seem quite crude anyway... given how much battery LWPs eat up I don't think there's any sense in running ones that look bad.
didnt work for me either and shaking the phone just makes it go unresponsive to touch input for a few seconds.
Yeah those turned out to be lame. Pretty disappointing.