Hey,
a while ago I flashed from 1.48 to 1.66. After that, the soft reset bootup screen, bootloader, and after a hard reset it will report my device as running 1.66.
But as soon as I use SPB backup, it changes the "device information" entry to 1.48. Soft reset bootup screen still reports 1.66.
I didn't think too much of it really -- mostly because I figure this would be a good way for me to know what my original ROM version is anyways.
Until I installed a new radio ROM with CustomRUU. The program detected my device as a 1.48 device, not 1.66.
My concern is that this may mean some restrictions with regards to flashing in the future.
So...is there any way to change this? Do I need to change it at all?
when you change rom you shouldn't restore registry in the same way as you do after a normal hard reset.
I don't use them myself so I can't advise further but that's the reason.
its unlikely to cause many serious problems, being a standard official upgrade.
samsamuel said:
when you change rom you shouldn't restore registry in the same way as you do after a normal hard reset.
I don't use them myself so I can't advise further but that's the reason.
its unlikely to cause many serious problems, being a standard official upgrade.
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Yeah. SPB Backup has a restore mode called "force ROM upgrade mode" and I would've thought that that would be sufficient.
It's been stable otherwise though so I'm not too concerned. Just find it interesting that the ROM version is being reported by data stored in the volatile RAM rather than the ROM itself.
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I seem to be having a problem with all of the WM6.5 Polaris ROMs. Hoping someone can help!
I first noticed the issue with Gullum's Rom, though it is still present with Belial's and Pcarvalho's
Basically soft-reset doesn't work. It will result in a hard-reset almost always. It doesn't matter if i use the soft reset pinhole or whether i use a program on the Polaris to soft-reset the device; the result is always the same - a hard reset.
In all circumstances I flashed the rom, waited until the screen alignment, hard reset (on purpose), then configured the phone.
Originally I thought the issue was because of pimbackup getting stuck sometimes and me resetting during that but it seems that even if I do not use PIM backup the phone will still hard reset it self.
The only thing that I can see being common is that the roms are all WM6.5 and all build 23016. When I downgrade to 3LIT3III (WM6.1 rom) the problem seems to go away - though I would prefer the 6.5 roms.
My phone has been flashed lots of times over the past 18 months and maybe something weird has happened. My next steps are to reflash the latest official HTC ROM in the hopes that fixes any weird things my phone might have before I try again.
If anyone has any suggestions I'd really appreciate them!
Thanks,
Dom
dlotters said:
I seem to be having a problem with all of the WM6.5 Polaris ROMs. Hoping someone can help!
I first noticed the issue with Gullum's Rom, though it is still present with Belial's and Pcarvalho's
Basically soft-reset doesn't work. It will result in a hard-reset almost always. It doesn't matter if i use the soft reset pinhole or whether i use a program on the Polaris to soft-reset the device; the result is always the same - a hard reset.
In all circumstances I flashed the rom, waited until the screen alignment, hard reset (on purpose), then configured the phone.
Originally I thought the issue was because of pimbackup getting stuck sometimes and me resetting during that but it seems that even if I do not use PIM backup the phone will still hard reset it self.
The only thing that I can see being common is that the roms are all WM6.5 and all build 23016. When I downgrade to 3LIT3III (WM6.1 rom) the problem seems to go away - though I would prefer the 6.5 roms.
My phone has been flashed lots of times over the past 18 months and maybe something weird has happened. My next steps are to reflash the latest official HTC ROM in the hopes that fixes any weird things my phone might have before I try again.
If anyone has any suggestions I'd really appreciate them!
Thanks,
Dom
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flash original htc rom and then wm65...should fix this issue...cheers
pcarvalho said:
flash original htc rom and then wm65...should fix this issue...cheers
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Hi, I've done that and so far it all appears stable... but I'm worried that by saying this I've now jinxed myself
Thank you for your suggestion! If only 'Microsoft My Phone' could restore text messages faster than 1 every 3 seconds... 3500 to go!
dlotters said:
The only thing that I can see being common is that the roms are all WM6.5 and all build 23016. When I downgrade to 3LIT3III (WM6.1 rom) the problem seems to go away - though I would prefer the 6.5 roms.
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Exactly the same for me. Have tested the "[10 Aug] WM23016_MEGAPACK_ByBelial_BETA, "[Aug 14] PDAVIET ROM WM6.5 Manila 2D (Core 21840) by TranMinhMan" and"pcarvalho eXtreme ROM 3.19 WM6.5 OS 5.2.23009" and all of them was very unstable with 3 to 5 HR pr day.
Then flash to 3LIT3III (WM6.1 rom) and it vent solid as a rock.
I'l test flashing back to original before installing 6.5 again. Thanks for the tip.
I've noticed the same problem too and this tip fixed it (so far). My sequence of flashing is slightly different but the usual suspects were all there. My question is, is it always better to flash original HTC ROM first before flashing a new cooked ROM? Or will it make no difference?
lz8028 said:
I've noticed the same problem too and this tip fixed it (so far). My sequence of flashing is slightly different but the usual suspects were all there. My question is, is it always better to flash original HTC ROM first before flashing a new cooked ROM? Or will it make no difference?
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its always better as you will flash a rom to a standard rom...every device has/had an original rom to start with...so all settings are...reset
For sure
After a couple of days usage now the phone has not hard reset itself at all - which is awesome - as is your ROM (I'm using the non-3D 23106 build of yours and haven't noticed any issues that a 'soft' reset doesn't resolve )
dlotters said:
I seem to be having a problem with all of the WM6.5 Polaris ROMs. Hoping someone can help!
I first noticed the issue with Gullum's Rom, though it is still present with Belial's and Pcarvalho's
Basically soft-reset doesn't work. It will result in a hard-reset almost always. It doesn't matter if i use the soft reset pinhole or whether i use a program on the Polaris to soft-reset the device; the result is always the same - a hard reset.
In all circumstances I flashed the rom, waited until the screen alignment, hard reset (on purpose), then configured the phone.
Originally I thought the issue was because of pimbackup getting stuck sometimes and me resetting during that but it seems that even if I do not use PIM backup the phone will still hard reset it self.
The only thing that I can see being common is that the roms are all WM6.5 and all build 23016. When I downgrade to 3LIT3III (WM6.1 rom) the problem seems to go away - though I would prefer the 6.5 roms.
My phone has been flashed lots of times over the past 18 months and maybe something weird has happened. My next steps are to reflash the latest official HTC ROM in the hopes that fixes any weird things my phone might have before I try again.
If anyone has any suggestions I'd really appreciate them!
Thanks,
Dom
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You just said what I wanted.. same thing.. 23016 build Pcarvalho's rom. Sad..
tcfanboy said:
You just said what I wanted.. same thing.. 23016 build Pcarvalho's rom. Sad..
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Pcarvalho's suggestion of flashing an original HTC rom is perfect - works well.
Hi folks,
Maybe its the same thing... but I'm not sure.
I have been having serious difficulty with some apps refusal to load and/or connect to the internet, namely Marketplace, Peep, The Channer, Speeedreader and various other 3rd party applications. I have soft reset a number of times to no avail, I even uninstalled and reinstalled all the apps (except Peep) and now Marketplace won't even open when I click on it! Very frustrating in what is turning out to be an otherwise pleasant phone experience! Opera and my Email connect to HSDPA and various wifi without issue, but the above apps don't see either wifi or my network connection at all, ever.
Its like some file got wiped out in the registry or something.
Here is the link to those woes of mine in another post (with evdincial videos): http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=589765&highlight=weareborg
I was going to take the plunge and do my first hard reset today until I heard that 1.48 ROM was out.
My question is, (because I think that some vital connection registry setting or something I screwed up big time with when using Total Commander) is it wiser to do a hard reset with existing firmware in the hopes my connection issues will be resolved OR should I flash to 1.48 directly??
Essentially, is flashing the same as hard resetting or will the overwriting of the files in the flashing process simply leave out what it can't see and I'm back to square one?
I hope you can understand my ramblings and would appreciate any advice!
Thanks in advance!
In my humble opinion if you have to HR anyway, you may as well move up to the latest ROM.
Good fault finding would say go with the HR and see if you can recreate the problem, but why not kill two birds...
Good luck
Thanks Gustopher, so flashing and HR are essentially the same? All the files Connection files are there in the new ROM? I'm not sure how much a new ROM "borrows" from an old ROM if you get me..
Thanks again.
wab.
Flashing a new ROM effectively performs a hard reset anyway. I've not heard of the 1.48 ROMs being worse in any way so if you're hard resetting anyway, you might as well update the ROM while you're at it.
Flashing the ROM is NOT the same as hardresetting.
If you flash a ROM, you will install a "new operating system" and everything will be wiped clean (as if it were hard resetted too)
A hard reset re-installs the CURRENT "operating system" and also wipes your device.
So... if you need to hard reset anyway, and a new ROM is out, just flash the new ROM.
The connection files (to setup GPRS automatically etc) are in the new ROM. It will work.
Thanks a lot all for your opinions!
Okay... I'm goin' in!
Fingees crossed!
so yeah... my phone keeps freezing with no screen output and lit buttons and then hard resetting on its own. done it twice already and I lost everything.
any ideas anyone?
have you flashed custom roms?
if yes, read the mtty section in ROM, thats my guess, otherwise i dont know
Some backgroumd info? ROM version? Flashed custom ones? Weird programs installed?
I've not touched the ROMS as I wouldnt know where to start. So it's in the out of the box state.
The first time it reset, all i had installed were things like Duttys Task Manager, PHLM reg editor, 4 hotfixes from HTC site. i didnt install the major upgrade (190MB) that upgrades the radio.
The second time it reset, all i had installed were Duttys TM and the 4 hotfixes. I'd not got round to fiddling with it any further.
Hi all,
I'm contemplating updating my ROM from the o2 stock 1.43 to the recently released 1.72 ROM via the HTC website. If all goes to plan, I may be tempted to flash a custom ROM in the not too distant future.
However, a piece of info on the HTC website has slightly unnerved me. It is as follows: The update will take up to 30 minutes, DO NOT interrupt the update process, make/receive phone calls, disconnect the device from the PC, or press any buttons until the process has been completed.
It's the make/receive phone calls bit that I'm worried about. Obviously I ain't gonna make a phone call while flashing, but how can I stop anyone from calling my number during the flash? And if someone were to call me during the flash would I end up with a bad flash and a possible bricked phone?
Please reassure me guys cos' until so, I ain't attempting it.
RoN_HD2 said:
Hi all,
It's the make/receive phone calls bit that I'm worried about. Obviously I ain't gonna make a phone call while flashing, but how can I stop anyone from calling my number during the flash?
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Take your SIM card out.
It's worth it,There are many benefits to the official ROMS later than 1.43
Don't worry too much, the reflash is relatively safe and straightforward.
HTH
cozzykim said:
Take your SIM card out.
It's worth it,There are many benefits to the official ROMS later than 1.43
Don't worry too much, the reflash is relatively safe and straightforward.
HTH
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Thank you! So obvious I never thought to remove SIM card.
O2 ROM upgrade - problems
I updated my original o2 stock 1.43 to the recently released 1.72 ROM via the HTC website as you are contemplating. since then, the following has happened: Text 'all messages' and 'reply' fonts are so large that editing is impossible, The weather no longer recognises my location. Thes matters do not appear to have a solution. I applied a full backup (SPB Backup) which may have aggravated matters, but I don't want to re-install everything from scratch. Think carefully before upgrading.
Desmac
arghhh >< why do people use backup's between different rom versions.
The reason why it doesnt work and causes these problems is because the backup software stores the entire registry hive as part of the backup, a long with some system files that are part of the rom. when you use a backup taken froma previous rom, it restores settings values that may not be approriate for that rom and also can remove registry settings and system files that the older rom did not have.
to fix this issue you should do a hard reset:
15. How to Hard Reset your Phone
To hard reset your phone which means to delete ALL personal data and settings and have the phone in factory default conditions as if you turned on the phone for the first time after purchasing, press the following buttons:
1. With the device turned off, press and hold the VOLUME UP and VOLUME DOWN buttons, then briefly press the POWER button.
2. Continue pressing the VOLUME UP and VOLUME DOWN buttons until you see this message on the screen:
"This operation will delete all your personal data, and reset all settings to the manufacturer default settings. Press VolUp to restore manufacturer defaults, or press other keys to cancel."
3. Release the VOLUME UP and VOLUME DOWN buttons.
4. Press the VOLUME UP button to perform the hard reset, or press any other button to cancel the reset.
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taken from : http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=583638 by tboy2000
Backups
There is an option in the latest SPB builds to do "Device and ROM upgrade modes" when doing a backup/restore.
SPB User Manual - Device and ROM Upgrade Modes -
Now you can safely upgrade your device ROM or change your device and seamlessly restore your data. SPB Backup will automatically detect if the restore process is being performed between different devices or ROM versions and prompt you to select the upgrade mode to perform.
But as the poster above says I would avoid doing this imho as it is pretty easy to reinstall programs and settings yourself and you don't have the worry of messing up system files (which it sounds like the big fonts issue is).
You could backup contacts & sms & emails & pictures etc - and then restore the user data rather than the system.
However SPB may work fine - I just prefer to start over with apps which I keep on the SD card and use autoinstall to put them back
I updated to the new O2 rom, then reinstalled all the software/tweaks I like.
I've found it to be at least as good, and IMO, better since I did the update. I used the my phone app to replace my contacts, etc. Took me less than one day to get the phone just as I wanted it.
My advice would be go for it!
It was my first rom update. Very straight forward and a very big difference with the phone. I found it much, much quicker and smoother.
RReckless
I agreee with above, I updated my O2 ROM to the 1.72 with no issues.
spent about an hour re-adding the apps and tweaks but worth while
Can anyone tell me if this will wipe any updates etc that have been done to the phone by the phone company?
my phone forgot the lock code so i had to do a hard reset, since then the phone has been freezing quite often, mainly when sending/recieving texts if you change the orientation while typing.
at the moment its either wait 2 minutes for it to sort itself out or just restart sense which is now becoming annoying.
any help appreciated
it also wont play the h.264 recordings i have made on the phone, i just get a black screen that says loading :/
well i have figured out it is definately related to the orientaion of the phone, i cannot turn the phone on its side when sending texts or using the web browsers or it will just lock up or slow to a crawl.
p.s. somone just please reply so i know i aint getting ignored cos my posts seem to be lol
Hmmmm...
Is the issue only occuring since you performed the hard reset and not before?
Have you tried reinstalling any updates you had before the reset?
Do you have a lot of msg's in your inbox?
updates are usually stored in root of phone
have you installed any new cabs or roms ??
if you've not installed anything new another hard reset may be in order just to re-syncronize phone
only help I can give at mo
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Can anyone tell me if this will wipe any updates etc that have been done to the phone by the phone company?
my phone forgot the lock code so i had to do a hard reset, since then the phone has been freezing quite often, mainly when sending/recieving texts if you change the orientation while typing.
at the moment its either wait 2 minutes for it to sort itself out or just restart sense which is now becoming annoying.
any help appreciated
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Yeah it will. it is like doing a windows system restore using the restore discs that came with your pc. Personally i would look at updating to a newer rom if you haven't already got a 1.66 or 1.72 based stock rom. You could always look at a custom rom. I use energy 23569 and i haven't had any problems with it. Also the energy roms include a newer version of sense that is included with the new TMOUS roms and it appears to be less buggy
thanks for the replies guys,
it was fine before the reset but it did slow a little in landscape mode but nothing anywhere near what its like now, key presses had a slight delay and now they are like a 5 second delay....portrait mode is perfect.
i always delete messages so my inbox is empty, i never applied any updates prior to the reset, i assumed virgin did it all for me.
i have only installed a few tweaks but the main change is bsb tweaks, i'm now using the latest version where as i was using the prior version before the hard reset but this has only started happening about a week after i installed it.
rom version is 1.66.351.1 (76641) WWE
rom date 03/03/10
manilla version 2.5.19211619.0
OS version 5.2.21869
radio version 2.07.51.22_2
i want to use a custom rom or atleast update to newer one but how will i put it back to the stock rom? the phone has some locked items from virgin installed, they will know if those are not there.
No they won't. Just say you removed them by hand because they were of no purpose to you.
If you install a custom rom on your unbranded, unlocked (the phone virgin supplied you is exactly the same as what you would pay for standalone except for the software extras) Leo it will be easy to install a stock rom. just flash it and then remove HSPL3 in favour of the stock spl (1.42 i think).
Your manilla/sense version is actually very old. There are newer versions about (2015 and 2016) that have been developed for the TMOUS devices but as HTC neglect the UK we haven;t been given the officially yet but most of the new custom roms include them.
If you do stay stock try installing LeoCPUSpeed V4 and chainfire's 3D Driver Patch V2. They will improve the speed of the phone in general and you may find the typing lag goes away completely