Facebook is pretty huge, Even SE has fan pages on there.
What better way to get them to pay attention than setting up a "not a big fan" page?
So please, everyone please join this group. The more people we get, the more they will pay attention.
Thanks to René for setting it up.
http://www.facebook.com/group.php?gid=110270035673269
Joined, thanks!!!
I signed up to this forum only to express my disappointment towards SE and joined the group of unhappy X2 owners. Thanks everyone who has posted the topics about the problems with X2 so I know that I'm not the only one who felt cheated. We paid the premium price for the phone and I don't mind minor bugs but how do I suppose to rely on this device if it keeps shutting itself down for no reason whatsever after it enters the standby....
Yesterday I reached my phone to take a picture of my friends and found my phone dead... nothing more embarrassing than having to remove the battery, inserted again, asked friends to wait until this piece of crap boots up and ready to take pic.. in.. well.. .4 minutes later????
Wait. Don't forget me. I'm coming.
Spread the word, the faster we get more people the quicker we can get some sort of response from SE.
They have not bothered to even respond to the complaints in their fan page... tsk tsk!
me are disappointed with X2. Signed up in facebook group.
LOL some of you like the X1. If the X2 is better than the X1, why hate it?
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LOL some of you like the X1. If the X2 is better than the X1, why hate it?
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What?!
I love X1, it's fast and stable.
I would love X2 because it's really great,
but you just cannot use it properly because the device makes
it impossible bacuse of freezes.
Clear?
so, what's the difference to the x1 then?
you can't even say the x2 has better build quality yet - it's too early.
apart from that it looks like SE is playing the same game again: "who? what? oh, i see. we already have your money. sorry, you're on your own now. come back when we sell you our next flagship and have a nice day!"
If we had Custom X1 stability and ability in an X2 shell, it would be a perfect world
Finally a reply from Aaron/SE:
http://blogs.sonyericsson.com/produ...e-now-available/comment-page-4/#comment-37847
Heh...
Look at this video:
http://wmpoweruser.com/?p=15371
Looks like getting HTC HD Mini also gives you problems.....
Many apps don't work there including SPB Mobile Shell!
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Finally a reply from Aaron/SE:
http://blogs.sonyericsson.com/produ...e-now-available/comment-page-4/#comment-37847
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This does not look like an official answer. Why would the poster refer to SE in third person?
Biges said:
This does not look like an official answer. Why would the poster refer to SE in third person?
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What are you talking about?
He says we
like: "and we are actively looking into the messaging experience you describe"....
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so, what's the difference to the x1 then?
you can't even say the x2 has better build quality yet - it's too early.
apart from that it looks like SE is playing the same game again: "who? what? oh, i see. we already have your money. sorry, you're on your own now. come back when we sell you our next flagship and have a nice day!"
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There is no difference. It is the same device. That's why I am not buying it.
There is still not a single device on the market that has the features of the X1 (keyboard, d-pad, optical mouse, winmo, softbuttons, style and looks and much more). The ones with powerful processors lack some of the features I mentioned and with the heavy customization most of us have done, my X1 can match or even perform better than brand new devices. Nuff said.
yeah, it's the same device. most important thing they've got in common is that they're from SE - which is dead for all time for me when it comes to smartphones. the x1-experience has been enough (drivers, software-support)
(apart from that my x1 is fine, i'm even SoD-free for 3 weeks now... )
you're right about the features though... it's strange that all the "big" phones, no matter what OS, nowadays lack a hw-keyboard. well, i'll find out when i get my desire - maybe soft-kb on a big screen really pleases all needs?
http://blogs.sonyericsson.com/produ...e-now-available/comment-page-4/#comment-38174
LOL, I have nothing to say.
yes i'm in... hope SE will listen
ultrashot said:
http://blogs.sonyericsson.com/produ...e-now-available/comment-page-4/#comment-38174
LOL, I have nothing to say.
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Personally I think it is someone being stupid. Like a little 12 your old virgin with nothing better to do.
Why would Aaron be working on a Sunday?
mtechfan, yes, it something like this but it was funny that SE haven't made normal registration/authorization system in their blog.
Related
check this out:
http://www.mobile-review.com/articles/2009/bert-letter-en.shtml
its real ,and he hits the week points of SE
"Real innovations have been substituted by dreams. As a consumer I'm offered rapidly aging and overpriced phones that have no future on the market under the guise of 'state-of-the-art solutions'. Another manifestation of the company's dishonesty was when Sony Ericsson tried to persuade me via weak PR and advertising that these were marvelous products."
end quote.
Well, this guy is nailing it! Spot on! Dishonesty is the right word. Persuasion and promises without any real world backing.
"oh looky looky the X1 with the AMAZING panels that are going to change your everyday live" - oh yeah, it's one year after that and there are a handful of them. I haven't used any of them in months.
"oh looky looky the X2 is simply amazing cutting edge device with the fantastic tile panel" - oh yeah, very amazing with the pathetic old hardware and the annoying panel that is nothing more than a gimmick and is impossible to use on a daily basis.
Haha...
Damn!! This guy's got it spot on!
@nevermind: What was that u said, SE won't be phased if they loose me as a customer? Reality check, u guys are loosing it.
Imagine a current X1 user upgrading to a X2 and realising a couple of hours down the line that he just bought a re-glorified plastic encased X1 with an 8mp camera. lol
I really digged SE but as of late I've, and apparently more SE fanbois really felt as if though we've been cheated with the X1.
So, whatcha gonna do?
With have been cheated with the X2 not X1. Also, nevermind =/= SE.
the thing is how much we are annoyed with the x2, there is not any good phones coming for wm in the foreseeable future and the more i look the more i thing the x2 is the best looking most functional (with its keyboard) and although it lacks the cpu of some devices like the htc leo, the htc devices are so ugly i would never buy it.
it seems that if i get a x2 as a free replacement for my x1 i will be happy but if i dont i am happy to keep my x1 for now as the rest of the wm phones are not as good overall.
i dont really see the need for wm6.5 on the x1 as i have used both and dont think 6.5 is that much better but a r4 firmware update with the new drivers would be nice (although mine x1 is now tuned to be super fast and smooth apart from some games and videos).
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the thing is how much we are annoyed with the x2, there is not any good phones coming for wm in the foreseeable future and the more i look the more i thing the x2 is the best looking most functional (with its keyboard) and although it lacks the cpu of some devices like the htc leo, the htc devices are so ugly i would never buy it.
it seems that if i get a x2 as a free replacement for my x1 i will be happy but if i dont i am happy to keep my x1 for now as the rest of the wm phones are not as good overall.
i dont really see the need for wm6.5 on the x1 as i have used both and dont think 6.5 is that much better but a r4 firmware update with the new drivers would be nice (although mine x1 is now tuned to be super fast and smooth apart from some games and videos).
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Keep your X1, I wouldn't bother with X2. I find it a little insulting (at least if the reports of its pricing are true).
Hannigan174 said:
Keep your X1, I wouldn't bother with X2. I find it a little insulting (at least if the reports of its pricing are true).
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lol. i did say i would only get a x2 if they give it to me as a free replacement so it really does not matter how much sony decides to sell it for.
Major anouncement: Sony Ericsson renamed x2, to x1.5!!1
lol where you get that???
xperia 1.5....
why not 1.8 for the 8 mpx camera.
haha sounds funny
look here
http://www.sonyericsson.com/cws/corporate/products/phoneportfolio
hyellow said:
Major anouncement: Sony Ericsson renamed x2, to x1.5!!1
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lets try not to be childish
hyellow said:
Major anouncement: Sony Ericsson renamed x2, to x1.5!!1
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Please provide proof and links!!
Jasand said:
Please provide proof and links!!
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it obviously was a sneer to SE. Not real! but seriously, if they really called it x1.5 , i would consider buying it, because it'll probably be the only phone to have such a model name/number. And perhaps, x2 is not worth the x2 name, because of the minor improvements over x1. But..... x1.5 was just a joke, c'mon...
I spent a few years with SE's UIQ phones, and a similar thing happened there. Since Sony Ericsson WAS in practice UIQ (apart from one Motorola I think), not only did they terminally underspec the UIQ terminals, they actually killed the UIQ interface, which was a real shame, since it was a very stable and efficient phone OS.
Déjà vu...
If you look at the UIQ forum on my-symbian.com, you will see similar complaints, letters published to CEOs etc. There must be some serious disconnects in SE for this to happen with their flagship range(s).
It's called greed. Also, providing as little as possible and pricing it like a NASA prototype...
...and the poster with the 1.5 was OBVIOUSLY joking...
I hope sony respond positivley to this letter and turn their act around
When has an Internet campaign lead to anything? All these letters, petitions and campaigns are utterly pointless.
The only exception is the bringing back of Jericho, but is just the exception that proves the general rule. Plus, they annoyed the TV execs with the real world sending of nuts and other stuff. Maybe we should send something to SE. Hm... something smelly perhaps?
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When has an Internet campaign lead to anything? All these letters, petitions and campaigns are utterly pointless.
The only exception is the bringing back of Jericho, but is just the exception that proves the general rule. Plus, they annoyed the TV execs with the real world sending of nuts and other stuff. Maybe we should send something to SE. Hm... something smelly perhaps?
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Well its their loss - we only want to help >.<
Do you guys really believe they will ever exchange a broken x1 for an x2? I highly doubt it. I would love to get a x2 that way but i think it will never happen.
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Do you guys really believe they will ever exchange a broken x1 for an x2? I highly doubt it. I would love to get a x2 that way but i think it will never happen.
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Well maybe they will, if the x1's keep falling appart or have other weird issue's like mines that turns blue'ish when sliding open.. the screen cable gets a bit loosy when i slide it open. ( its already been in repairs once for that issue but back then it went off instead of turning blue.. )
orelsi said:
When has an Internet campaign lead to anything? All these letters, petitions and campaigns are utterly pointless.
The only exception is the bringing back of Jericho, but is just the exception that proves the general rule. Plus, they annoyed the TV execs with the real world sending of nuts and other stuff. Maybe we should send something to SE. Hm... something smelly perhaps?
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...aGREED!!
Dear Members,
I am completely buffled and confused! I have heard millions of pocket pcs in the past years i am eager to have a change but i need your advise. Help me choose between the above devices.
Romani ite domum!
Donald24 said:
Romani ite domum!
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What on earth is this?
I was with a lot of doubts like you, until I see today the X10
It is THE **** of phone. The UI is ugly, and works like its running on a nintendo DS processor and 3fps, they dont have any advantage over HD2, NONE, and the release date is on march 2010 if all goes good.
not an option for me and a big fail for Sony.
i am surprised at how ugly the UI turned out. Also, the lag SHOULD be attributed to it being pre=release but it is so laggy that you have to assume some of that will make it into the final ROM
Alkali said:
Dear Members,
I am completely buffled and confused! I have heard millions of pocket pcs in the past years i am eager to have a change but i need your advise. Help me choose between the above devices.
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Considering the detailed description you gave regarding what you need your phone to do, it's obvious that the XPERIA is the phone for you.
You get the X10 and let us the HD2 gang know what you found out
I LoL'd
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Romani ite domum!
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Seriously, what have they ever done for us?
I LoL'd
Donald24 said:
Romani ite domum!
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Seriously, what have they ever done for us?
The X10 looks like a nice phone. I personally think it looks better aesthetically than the HD2, especially in White. The UI will probably be improved before it's released and run faster than 3 FPS. The 8MP camera is also a plus, and I'd take an SE camera over an HTC camera any day.
All that being said, the HD2 has the bigger screen and the support of xda-developers
That's all I need for me to consider the HD2 better. That and SE hasn't made a good flagship phone in years! I'd bet they are going to botch up the X10 somehow and it's pretty much guaranteed to go through a few delays traditional SE style
knowing sony's track record on their UI in the xperia line, i doubt if anything will be improved from the pre-release version to the release version. I feel bad for SE fans because i truly love their phones and also the most aesthetically looking phones out there in the market. Sadly, that's all they're good at. The UI on the X1 and X2 (especially the X2) have been under scrutiny for how slow and choppy they are and after seeing the hands-on video, it seems like the downward trend will continue.
Gang, this is not even a Windows Mobile device
Alkali said:
Dear Members,
I am completely buffled and confused! I have heard millions of pocket pcs in the past years i am eager to have a change but i need your advise. Help me choose between the above devices.
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pretty not much of a point to ask this question here or in Xperia X10, most of the responders here like me have had already bought over in our mind with HD2. And I would strongly recommend HD2 against Xperia X10 for many reasons, but this is entirely my preferences. I would think again if it is based on WinMO.
too bad history
lude219 said:
knowing sony's track record on their UI in the xperia line, i doubt if anything will be improved from the pre-release version to the release version. I feel bad for SE fans because i truly love their phones and also the most aesthetically looking phones out there in the market. Sadly, that's all they're good at. The UI on the X1 and X2 (especially the X2) have been under scrutiny for how slow and choppy they are and after seeing the hands-on video, it seems like the downward trend will continue.
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I back up this 100%
Sony promissed us to fix the X1 Xperia, it did not happen, Neither the P990 (freezing without warning), or the P910 . The P800 never got the pop mails to work 100% ...
Sorry Sony, track record is too bad ... never SE again
drwho? said:
I back up this 100%
Sony promissed us to fix the X1 Xperia, it did not happen, Neither the P990 (freezing without warning), or the P910 . The P800 never got the pop mails to work 100% ...
Sorry Sony, track record is too bad ... never SE again
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Dont remind me with the P990 which was my worst phone experience ever ... ever
I consider HD2 as a Business Phone...
Sony Xperia X10 is not a Business Phone at all. It even cannot show MS exchange emails in html format...
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learn from your mistakes
salamt said:
Dont remind me with the P990 which was my worst phone experience ever ... ever
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P990, P990 ... P990 ... We got to remember our mistakeS, SE take us for idiots ... a lot of promiss, never real fix ... Let's go for phone with working software, and that is not a SonyEricsson, i got the phones in my cabinets to prove it.
I clearly remember that X1 was suppose to get Windows mobile 7 .. we don t even get Win6.5 ... so ... bye bye SE, remember your mistakeS, so many companies finish the products, no reason to buy something unfinished.
To get a working X1, we got to develope hacks ... not what i call a good consumer support.
drwho? said:
I back up this 100%
Sony promissed us to fix the X1 Xperia, it did not happen, Neither the P990 (freezing without warning), or the P910 . The P800 never got the pop mails to work 100% ...
Sorry Sony, track record is too bad ... never SE again
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i have personal experience with most of this, agreed 110%
Now that some of you advise me to try X10,What do
I do with my WORD DOCUMENTS? Can I use them on ANDROID?
Alkali said:
Now that some of you advise me to try X10,What do
I do with my WORD DOCUMENTS? Can I use them on ANDROID?
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you'll have some time to find the best solution as the X10 won't be out for months - if SE are saying Q1 then that is a certainty for Q2 at the earliest...
Andoid does have the odd application that can use office files.
What do you dislike about X10, SE, and/or the 1.6. And, what advantages if any do you believe the new Iphone 4G have over the X10?
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What do you dislike about X10, SE, and/or the 1.6. And, what advantages if any do you believe the new Iphone 4G have over the X10?
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No i wont trade my XPERIA X10 into a product that costs about 80% more than my XPERIA X10 while having half of the features the XPERIA X10 have. And when you look here, you also know why i wont buy that phone ever.
Everything in that list is something my XPERIA X10 can do out of the box.
Hell no... Never.. and certainly not when I'd have to pay £60 a month for a 2 year contract to get the handset for free...
Even if it wasn't so ridiculously expensive.. I'd still rather have my X10 (and no.. I'm neither an Apple hate or an SE fanboy! - I have an Ipod, and have never owned an x10 before)..
Sure... if I was an idiot with more money than brains, who is willing to support a company with no morals that has one hell of a marketing department which has been able to fool the masses into believing that the iPhone is something better and something they need to be "cool".
F%& Apple and all the hipsters!
If you haven't figured that out, my answer is HECK NO!
No, I don't want an iPhone.
fm1776 is probably wondering why nobody has posted in this thread yet.
rynoon said:
No, I don't want an iPhone.
fm1776 is probably wondering why nobody has posted in this thread yet.
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LOL, yeah maybe he should take us of his block list .
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Sure... if I was an idiot with more money than brains, who is willing to support a company with no morals that has one hell of a marketing department which has been able to fool the masses into believing that the iPhone is something better and something they needto be "cool".
F%& Apple and all the hipsters!
If you haven't figured that out, my answer is HECK NO!
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LOL!!! ok that is two no's!
I'm very satisfied with the X10.
No Iphone for me.
@Rynoon - Leave it alone - We're meant to be having a discussion not bickering like children.
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LOL!!! ok that is two no's!
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ROFL, someone that is not on his block list, tell him that he have way more than just 2 no's in this topic lol.
And tell him to take us from his block list to see how many no's he really have.
Tom-Helge said:
No i wont trade my XPERIA X10 into a product that costs about 80% more than my XPERIA X10 while having half of the features the XPERIA X10 have. And when you look here, you also know why i wont buy that phone ever.
Everything in that list is something my XPERIA X10 can do out of the box.
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Wow - I didn't realise there was so much lacking in the iPhone... mind you there's some things there that also apply to the x10 (especially with its current 1.6 OS)
There are some great specs on the iPhone4, well, mainly just the pixel depth of that screen, but apart from that, not much...
Also, I'd much rather have the flexibility of the Android OS over the highly locked down iPhone OS
Sometimes it's more important that a few 'specs'
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Wow - I didn't realise there was so much lacking in the iPhone... mind you there's some things there that also apply to the x10 (especially with its current 1.6 OS)
There are some great specs on the iPhone4, well, mainly just the pixel depth of that screen, but apart from that, not much...
Also, I'd much rather have the flexibility of the Android OS over the highly locked down iPhone OS
Sometimes it's more important that a few 'specs'
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Yup, i totally agree with you.
I got an iPod touch, so I know what iOS mean.
And iOS 4 on iPhone 4 as just "multitask" (I get real multitask on my ipt2G with jailbreak)
iPod touch = nice mp4 with some cool feature
iPhone (3GS/4) = bad phone who want to look nice
Now that I discovered android, no way to jail me into iOS again !
iOS is not fully useless, I give my ipod touch to my girlfriend because of her "computer accident" =) Yes it's more easy to use thant android, but for people who don't come on xda forum^^
thanks for the warning about apple products. I have never owned an apple anything. But my mate stopped by with his new iphone 4g and it looked like a nice kit.
I wish the X10 would be getting the 2.2 instead of the 2.1. I really want the adobe 10.1.
I gave the HTML5 a go and the video's worked just fine on iphone.
I actually came from an iphone iOS4 (i've owned orginal, 3gs, and 4) and am loving my x10, but the main reason for my switch is flash which we may or may not get from SE... keep fingers for custom roms
Also I'm left handed and Apple hates my kind
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I actually came from an iphone iOS4 (i've owned orginal, 3gs, and 4) and am loving my x10, but the main reason for my switch is flash which we may or may not get from SE... keep fingers for custom roms
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You came from the 4G? What site do you normally stream video's from the doesn't work with HTML5?
As for the 10.1 some one will need to cook 2.2 or it won't work. It will probably happen sooner or later. But if that is the main reason you switched why not go with the EVO? 10.1 should work out of the box.
Seriously, guys...
This kid has been slapping Rachael left, right and center for days. Now he's setting up a separate topic to further evangelize IamalamePHONE, and nobody actually cares to 'advise' him to leave the X10 section?
I would, if not because the coward can't read my comments.
fm1776 said:
thanks for the warning about apple products. I have never owned an apple anything. But my mate stopped by with his new iphone 4g and it looked like a nice kit.
I wish the X10 would be getting the 2.2 instead of the 2.1. I really want the adobe 10.1.
I gave the HTML5 a go and the video's worked just fine on iphone.
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He claims he never owned an iPhone. Riiiight....
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Seriously, guys...
This kid has been slapping Rachael left, right and center for days. Now he's setting up a separate topic to further evangelize IamalamePHONE, and nobody actually cares to 'advise' him to leave the X10 section?
I would, if not because the coward can't read my comments.
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Well, the difficulty is that he has also ignored more than half of the people in this thread as well. I looked back through his posts and it's nothing but slagging off the X10. Trollish for sure.
I like to watch tv from justin.tv and html5 does not support... plus at least for me on my iphone4 the ones that do work were not that great interms of framerate, but i'm sure with time it'll be ironed out.
Trust me i wish i could have switched to EVO, but I'm stuck on AT&T and if you know anything about them it is the MAIN REASON NOT TO GET AN IPHONE... AT&T lol
No more Updates for X2???
Anyone know when new update for X2 scheduled?
Not really, no one from SE announced yet...
So pity to x2 user. Damn... Can't really taste the true power of X2. I don't know what to do. I want to sell, but no one want to buy.
Oh, By The way, Is other Windows Mobile phone is better than X2? Or just the same?
Thanks
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So pity to x2 user. Damn... Can't really taste the true power of X2. I don't know what to do. I want to sell, but no one want to buy.
Oh, By The way, Is other Windows Mobile phone is better than X2? Or just the same?
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I understand HTC's HD2 phone, also a Windows mobile fon, is a lot better than the X2. You may check on it. Cheers.
Nice information. Thanks. oh... How do you think after using X2. Is it still any hope?
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Nice information. Thanks. oh... How do you think after using X2. Is it still any hope?
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my opinion on the x2 is that it is a WinMo device. if there is something you don't like about it, change it. already i've put TF3d, over clocked it.
the stock R3XXX update was a huge improvement and slideview+ panels are brilliant.
plus 8mp camera and full keyboard does not hurt either, and because of the smaller screen the battery last longer than the hd2 and it fits easier in my pocket,
but if your looking for a new phone i would go with the hd2 just because it has attracted more people therefore there is more support for it. but its just based on preferences
Sony Ericsson has just abandonned the Xperia X2 and X1 phones (or all Windows Mobile devices).
In fact, honestly SE never really cared about these devices. The first X1 was a HTC development, solid in Software terms at the end but horrible at Hardware level. The X2 was the exactly opposite, great Hardware, awful Software.
But there's no more interest in this devce anymore.
Cheers.
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Sony Ericsson has just abandonned the Xperia X2 and X1 phones (or all Windows Mobile devices).
In fact, honestly SE never really cared about these devices. The first X1 was a HTC development, solid in Software terms at the end but horrible at Hardware level. The X2 was the exactly opposite, great Hardware, awful Software.
But there's no more interest in this devce anymore.
Cheers.
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Well, it's not really true.
Both phones got cruical updates, X2 is completely redesigned after last upgrade.
Officially SE didn't abandon anything.
However it is true they've made diastrous mistakes with X2
and pushed unfinished buggy firmwares, without any sign of improvements ATM.
i am SE mobile user for the past 6 years and wanted to always stick with SE device... but my X2 experience has changed my perception.... i will no more use SE devices... at the moment looking to get rid of my X2 and switch to iphone...
Em... I like SE phone.but this X2 make me crazy. My only hope is SE declare the next update for X2 and without anymore bugs. Of course SE should really try it first before launch to x2 user.
Nb : I really want to find and install hand writing recognition. As long as I know, PDA or PocketPC should have this feature.
I am not a fussy phone user.
If my phone could just alert me when messages are received consistently, if my phone would always unlock when i want it to, if the screen would not dim so quickly with no way to alter it, i would be pleased.
All of which the X2 is unable to fulfill. Colour me disgusted, SE.
I simply just can't understand why some people are still defending SE and the X2, saying that's only "few minor bugs".
The only reason that I still with this phone is that I cannot sell it, and the iPhone 4 hasn't arrived to my country yet.
Jolo.
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I simply just can't understand why some people are still defending SE and the X2, saying that's only "few minor bugs".
The only reason that I still with this phone is that I cannot sell it, and the iPhone 4 hasn't arrived to my country yet.
Jolo.
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The mistake is bigger because this is substantially a great phone, which could be on the first line of last batch of WM devices.
I'm using it and must say love it in most part.
However it has glitches, somehow I'm able to squeeze most of it. In many ways it's great.
But the truth is they never felt on their back angry customers breath.
I think they're whether too proud and rude,
or too old fashioned in their approach.
And they reach a success with X10, so you know, no reason to panic
schaotan said:
I am not a fussy phone user.
If my phone could just alert me when messages are received consistently, if my phone would always unlock when i want it to, if the screen would not dim so quickly with no way to alter it, i would be pleased.
All of which the X2 is unable to fulfill. Colour me disgusted, SE.
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If you go to settings Settings>System>Backlight and Power Management>Advanced you can change the settings.
I did this and it worked for a while. But then, sometimes, after 5 seconds it goes dark.
But after I make the change it stops doing the 5 second thing. . . for a while.
Yes a bug, it sucks, but there are ways to DEAL with it.
As for the unlock, yes I see what you are talking about. I keep pressing and nothing, nothing then all of a sudden, it slides!!!
Annoying to say the least.
Sony should make the device work out of the box. Unfortunately this is not the case. We either deal with it and come up with our own solutions or sell the X2. Too bad no wants to buy the X2 but then again I don't blame them, it is a buggy machine.
However...X2 is still not meet most user requirement. Some tweak and fix are not enough. Hope SE really care to make update for us. I want to change X2 to X10, but so pity, no one will buy my X2. Because of the bugs. I choosed the wrong phone.
gunawan-1 said:
However...X2 is still not meet most user requirement. Some tweak and fix are not enough. Hope SE really care to make update for us. I want to change X2 to X10, but so pity, no one will buy my X2. Because of the bugs. I choosed the wrong phone.
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All of us picked up the wrong phone. You're not alone.
Sadly, SE will not release another update. This device is absolutely dead for this company, same as X1.
Even, Sony Ericsson will not have a Windows Phone 7 device at launch. They're fully with Android only now.
Cheers and good luck with this piece of crap.
xwing_5 said:
If you go to settings Settings>System>Backlight and Power Management>Advanced you can change the settings.
I did this and it worked for a while. But then, sometimes, after 5 seconds it goes dark.
But after I make the change it stops doing the 5 second thing. . . for a while.
Yes a bug, it sucks, but there are ways to DEAL with it.
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Erm. dude. I KNOW.
A solution isn't a solution when it doesn't work well. It is still a compromise. And dealing with it, is a massive compromise.
Its plain stupid that we users are compromising on our user experience on simple things. For a premium, top range phone no less.
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Even, Sony Ericsson will not have a Windows Phone 7 device at launch. They're fully with Android only now.
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And Symbian
gunawan-1 said:
I want to change X2 to X10, but so pity, no one will buy my X2. Because of the bugs. I choosed the wrong phone.
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I actually returned the phone to the seller on the basis that it does not offer functions as declared by the manufacturer, specifically "USB mass storage" mode. OK, it wasn't easy and I settled for somewhat less money that the phone costed me, but it was still more than the price of a used phone. But it all depends on local customs, laws and the will of seller.
Are you saying the X2 does not even have MassStorageUSB? Not even after MR2 update??? Wow!
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Are you saying the X2 does not even have MassStorageUSB? Not even after MR2 update??? Wow!
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Well actually not true.
Actually just after connecting this to PC and starting
WMDevice Center you can browse both sd card and internal memory.
In reverse X1 mass storage allows only sd card management.
To much *****ing is not sensible either.
here appeard many posts like this and sadly I have to say that I want a different android phone, defenetly not SE. They are losing their customers.
What other phone would you recommend? I was thinking about milestone xt720. Maybe there is something more interesting?
Instead of spamming these boards, why don't you go to a board where you can get answers unobjectively. Also, SE already got your money, they don't care if you sell the phone.
These threads are useless and must be deleted at all costs.
iead1 said:
Also, SE already got your money, they don't care if you sell the phone.
These threads are useless and must be deleted at all costs.
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+1! I can understand the frustration, but don't get why people are selling their phones right now, that's just cutting your nose off to spite your face imo.
Well I got rid of mine because I've had enough of SE dragging their heels, I'm running 2.2 on my HD2 and its the best move I have made tbh.
I know SE already have my money, but I didn't see the point of sticking with something I wasn't happy with.
I know its only a phone at the end of the day and all the normal stuff worked, its just SE's policy on providing support, Ohh its ok the users who gave us there hard earned cash can wait for their update as we already have their cash.
I hope the devs can do somethin with the X10 as it is a cracking piece of kit and not worthy of running 1.6.
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Here's a thought:
Instead of venting on this board where X10 users and hobbyist developers gather to exchange ideas why not send a wellformulated email to something like SE sales or SE's customer services? Most of us here have no connection to SE other than owning one of their phones. Some of us don't even have a choice and couldn't switch if we wanted to.
Coming here to vent won't really do anything other than piss people off which is kind of counter-productive. Even if some here agree with your views there's not a lot we can do other than trying to do the best we can with what we got.
If you hope to accomplish something or even get SE to recognize your problems then the best way is really to write a proper message to SE explaining your stance. It's a long-shot but there's always a chance that they will listen to the critique and act on it.
*****ing to us X10 users helps no one, most of us don't even care and it just takes up your time.
Just create a thread for all these complainers about leaving their phone yada yada yada. Simple.
I agree, if you don't like then leave and join other forum for the phone you want.
Most phone manufacturers are concern about making money and that is business so no choice.
Leave us alone here as there are some of us who still like our X10 including myself.
chongbh said:
Leave us alone here as there are some of us who still like our X10 including myself.
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Hear, hear. Even though we're stuck on 1.6 for now I still love the display and design of the hardware.
ddewbofh said:
Hear, hear. Even though we're stuck on 1.6 for now I still love the display and design of the hardware.
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Yes, we like and love the phone not because it has updated OS but it is the phone hardware and specs which makes us attracted to it.
Even if the phone is updated with the latest OS like 2.2 or even 3.0 but the outlook of the phone don't look nice or the specs of the hardware is not advance, holding the phone don't makes us feel good as well.
It is the same like cars, even though your car is powerful but the design of the car do not look good, less people will buy it.
Just my sharing.
kubbek said:
here appeard many posts like this and sadly I have to say that I want a different android phone, defenetly not SE. They are losing their customers.
What other phone would you recommend? I was thinking about milestone xt720. Maybe there is something more interesting?
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xt720 is nice but is older than X10.
Slowe CPU too.
And Motorola is locking their devices too.
If you want to switch, at least go to a HTC where you can play with them as much as you want.
The bad part, HTCs are ugly phones
I'm seling my X10 to go for a Captivate.
I know the camera is worse, but at least the bootloader is already hacked so CM6 is the way to go.
tuxStyle said:
xt720 is nice but is older than X10.
Slowe CPU too.
And Motorola is locking their devices too.
If you want to switch, at least go to a HTC where you can play with them as much as you want.
The bad part, HTCs are ugly phones
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Calling them ugly is a bit harsh imo, non-descript is a better name for it. They're basic and they don't stand out. They're sort of like the VW Passat, the design is perfectly fine but also very forgettable at the same time.
iead1 said:
Instead of spamming these boards, why don't you go to a board where you can get answers unobjectively. Also, SE already got your money, they don't care if you sell the phone.
These threads are useless and must be deleted at all costs.
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Delete these threads? Why? Coz you love your x10?
Well good for you, but others don't and this is a forum for discussion and people should be allowed to give negative opinion on a product that has not been delivered as promised.
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jayman1986 said:
Delete these threads? Why? Coz you love your x10?
Well good for you, but others don't and this is a forum for discussion and people should be allowed to give negative opinion on a product that has not been delivered as promised.
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You're right. This board is for discussion. However, do they require a new thread each time?
Hmmm.. you guys obviously wouldn't care much assuming you don't donate to the board to help maintain it. I bet if you did you'd care much more about people who posts useless threads like this.
jayman1986 said:
Delete these threads? Why? Coz you love your x10?
Well good for you, but others don't and this is a forum for discussion and people should be allowed to give negative opinion on a product that has not been delivered as promised.
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I'm pretty sure all the features that were promised on the the box are working fine. Don't get confused with the ramblings you hear on the internet, they are the wants of users, not the promises of se.
I want features such as froyo, 16 million colours, flash etc. as much as anyone, but such things were never promised. And lack of 16 million colours isn't aproblem, you would be hard pressed to see the difference, unless you have a fascination with looking at colour gradients. And no multitouch, even though it has been denied as a feature countless times is a blessing. If there was multitouch you can say goodbye to using the phone one handed. Multitouch gestures are stupid, pointless and annoying.
So if you want to sell your phone, then godspeed to you. But please don't complain to other users that enjoy theirphone, just because you didn't research properly what this phone is capable of.
No offence intended, this is an open discussion and that is my point of view, if you can show evidence of broken promises then be my guest. Delay in 2.1 update doesn't count, release dates for software slip, its a fact of life. Deal with it.
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ddewbofh said:
Calling them ugly is a bit harsh imo, non-descript is a better name for it. They're basic and they don't stand out. They're sort of like the VW Passat, the design is perfectly fine but also very forgettable at the same time.
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IMO a dogs backside could design something more attractive than a desire lol
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Why do some people think others care if they got a new phone LOL. I bet the honeymoon will last no more then a few weeks with their new device, then they will complain about some issues they have with it.
Sony has made some stupid moves IMO but whatever company you go to the situation will be the same. At most you will get one major update and some bugfix updates.
I blew off alot of steam about how the 2.1 update wouldn't even include 16m colors...I then got really pissed about SE delaying our 2.1 update til October. I for sure said some things out of anger....but one thing I remember clearly is that I ditched a Nexus One running 2.2 (froyo) for my X10. I loved my Nexus One, it was truly amazing....but something about the X10 pulled me to it. I find with my X10 I love it more and enjoy it much more than the Nexus One. That said, I know SE pissed alot of people off..including myself....but there's no need to ditch a phone that you know you loved because SE delayed the update. Honestly look at it this way, is your phone going to die? will it not live for another month until 2.1? will you die? can you just give your phone the chance of running 2.1 before you are so quick to judge....maybe just MAYBE!! SE are being secretive about something in the update...maybe not. But I have a damn good feeling when 2.1 drops to the X10 some people will be coming back to it....because SE will get there **** together and really deliver on this. If im wrong, then you can flame me. People have just a little more patience for the update.
just my two cents
NightSidew1nd3r;
So if you want to sell your phone said:
Well firstly he's not specifically aiming it at people who are happy with their phone, cox there are many who are unhappy.
And research properly before you buy?- like I replied to another SE fanboy on another thread, I bought my phone in March and SE did not make anything clear when phone releasing the phone- everything was rumours. And at that time all mobile phone sources were hinting an update to 2.1 before summer.
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