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Problem after problem with HD2.

Hey guys, I love my HD2 but recently ive been having some terrible issues.
I text alot and it really irritates me that when i go to type a text it takes 30 seconds to allow me to do so, it will just be completely unresponsive for those 30 seconds.
Then also anytime i go to change the keys to " £ $ ? symbols and numbers it jumps the cursor back randomly so im still typing before i realise its typing in completely the wrong place.
Im also having the phone do random things without me letting it, it removed the lock screen by itself which i cannot get back and before that it was automatically changing the background and the weather service would randomly select strange citys?

Hi,
sounds like things have gone askew, maybe if all else fails you can do a hard reset (ensuring you back up any data you need first).

Megacamz said:
I text alot and it really irritates me that when i go to type a text it takes 30 seconds to allow me to do so, it will just be completely unresponsive for those 30 seconds.
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That's the SMS load delay bug that has been discussed a lot on these forums. It occurs whenever you have more than a few messages from a person, and the phone tries to load all the old sms messages from that person, but it does it extremely slow. HTC may or may not be aware of it, the hotfix on their site for SMS doesn't seem to fix it. At the moment, your options are to delete SMS history, or to disable HTC Messaging and using Microsofts default SMS (requires regsistry hacking).
Megacamz said:
Im also having the phone do random things without me letting it, it removed the lock screen by itself which i cannot get back and before that it was automatically changing the background and the weather service would randomly select strange citys?
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Some people have reported that they got an overly responsive screen, I would suggest you try and replace your phone (or simply return it like I did because you can never trust a SMS message has been sent when you send it with HTC Messaging, another bug without solution). The wether
services choosing odd cities might be because of yet another bug that fails to correctly pinpoint your location for the weather app.

Megacamz said:
Then also anytime i go to change the keys to " £ $ ? symbols and numbers it jumps the cursor back randomly so im still typing before i realise its typing in completely the wrong place.
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I have this fault, and I think it started after the text messaging hotfix, I am going to uninstall; that fix and see if it solves the problem. Have you installed that fix?

Nope, that didn't fix it - is anyone else experiencing this? When I click on the ""12#" (symbol) hey, the cursor jumps back to a point earlier in the test message. Usually it jumps to the last place that I pressed that button.
This only occurs in the HTC SMS Messaging.
I uninstalled the SMS hotfix and restarted the phone but it's still occuring.

Got the same problem here with the cursor jumping back using "12#". I have installed all latest official HTC updates, but none have solved this problem. Really annoying ;(
Anyone got a workaround or custom fix for this?

Megacamz said:
Hey guys, I love my HD2 but recently ive been having some terrible issues.
I text alot and it really irritates me that when i go to type a text it takes 30 seconds to allow me to do so, it will just be completely unresponsive for those 30 seconds.
Then also anytime i go to change the keys to " £ $ ? symbols and numbers it jumps the cursor back randomly so im still typing before i realise its typing in completely the wrong place.
Im also having the phone do random things without me letting it, it removed the lock screen by itself which i cannot get back and before that it was automatically changing the background and the weather service would randomly select strange citys?
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You can use myphone to back up and archieve your text messages regularly. This will then delete them off your phone but you can still access them on the web if you want to. Keeps the number of messages low and solves the delay problem.

espee77 said:
Got the same problem here with the cursor jumping back using "12#". I have installed all latest official HTC updates, but none have solved this problem. Really annoying ;(
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Me too, i got the same problem!
The last thing i installed was the sim contact update.
But at the moment i dont know if i have the problem before that update..

to type immediately without the 30s delay, simply press send and then no then tap again and you should be able to immediately type.
I do also have the number/symbols bug and it annoys the hell out of me! would love anyone that could find a solution to this!

New SMS bug in 1.66?

Whenever I am sending an sms to someone, the previous message in the thread seems to highlight black automatically and typing seems to stop working until I press back in to the text box, the keyboard however is still visible when it happens.
Seems to be happening every time I send an sms.
Not a big deal but it does get annoying.
Anyone experienced this issue?

Yes me to have this bug!!
I'm so tired of this crapy hotfixes that does not fix any hot things at all.
Now there's a new SMS hotfix that should be applyable on my device accordning the homepage, but nah.... not for my device it says when i'm trying to apply it.

elkyelky said:
Whenever I am sending an sms to someone, the previous message in the thread seems to highlight black automatically and typing seems to stop working until I press back in to the text box, the keyboard however is still visible when it happens.
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I believe everybody experiences this issue, which seems to a feature and not a bug. The fact is that the SMS selected is the one you just tapped in the SMS tab. Apparently it is meant to be this way, so you can fully read the SMS before answering... Just think if an SMS is really loooonnngg and exceeds what can be shown in the sense interface, you'll have the opportunity to see the full SMS before answering. The real problem, though, is that the SMS is only selected once all SMS are loaded, which can be a very long process, if you have more than 50 SMS with the same person. Most of the time, you already began writing a new SMS, so it "disturbs" the process.
ToddeSwe said:
I'm so tired of this crapy hotfixes that does not fix any hot things at all.
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Well, apparently, the 1.66 ROM or the latest SMS hotfix does fix the not sent SMS problem and the laggy SMS loading... Those were major issues, this one is just a not very good "feature" that, I believe, we'll be able to deactivate some way. Am I wrong?

rzasharp said:
I believe everybody experiences this issue, which seems to a feature and not a bug. The fact is that the SMS selected is the one you just tapped in the SMS tab. Apparently it is meant to be this way, so you can fully read the SMS before answering... Just think if an SMS is really loooonnngg and exceeds what can be shown in the sense interface, you'll have the opportunity to see the full SMS before answering. The real problem, though, is that the SMS is only selected once all SMS are loaded, which can be a very long process, if you have more than 50 SMS with the same person. Most of the time, you already began writing a new SMS, so it "disturbs" the process.
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Yes your right. I just tried selecting an older SMS on the SMS tab and it has just scrolled up the thread and highlighted it once all of the messages were loaded.
That is an annoying feature in my opinion. Any known way of disabling it?

right, htc call this a feature...lol
it is the first sms which is loaded, so i too dont know why it cant be highlighted first before loading the complete thread.... then i could call this a feature too.
to avoid it, dont press on the sms in sms tab, but press inbox and select the thread you want to read or reply...

I asked people to confirm this but no-one did.
Can you also confirm that pressing the 12# while typing the text moves the cursor a few words back?
As this was an issue with the previous SMS hotfix and still present in the 1.66 ROM.

wotsreallygood said:
I asked people to confirm this but no-one did.
Can you also confirm that pressing the 12# while typing the text moves the cursor a few words back?
As this was an issue with the previous SMS hotfix and still present in the 1.66 ROM.
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No it isn't doing that for me.

wotsreallygood said:
I asked people to confirm this but no-one did.
Can you also confirm that pressing the 12# while typing the text moves the cursor a few words back?
As this was an issue with the previous SMS hotfix and still present in the 1.66 ROM.
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ive read some posts asking for this, but why would someone write 12# in a sms?
even if this "bug" is present, i will never face it...

Bimme said:
ive read some posts asking for this, but why would someone write 12# in a sms?
even if this "bug" is present, i will never face it...
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He is talking about the button labelled '12#' which takes you to the numbers and other characters.

lol
ok my fault, sry for this...

the '12#' bug only occurs (for me) if you are replying to a text, have XT9 on and press the '12#' key when the predictive row is onscreen offering alternative words - then when the '12#' key is pressed the cursor jumps to the start of the box.

this is happening on my device, i can understand how this can be annoying but is a non issue for me.

hi,
on the '#12' thing, i can confirm what fray_bentos wrote, but because im not using t9 i never faced this 'bug'.
on the issue that after reading all sms the last one is selected even if you already started typing, i think that is a good example why one should not try to stop complainers the quick way. first a lot of people complain about that they have to wait for all sms (in thread) to be read by the system, before they can start answering. so htc try to do somthing on it and release a quick hotfix, not testing it enough (maybe because the time to release is to short). and now people complaining about the fact that they are interupted in typing a message.
i can live with it (until the next 'hopefully better tested' fix is comming) because i find out that you can still continue to type your message, the focus of your input window is not changing. simply continue typing, and after finish touch the input window once, all your text will appear than at once.
regards mad

rzasharp said:
Well, apparently, the 1.66 ROM or the latest SMS hotfix does fix the not sent SMS problem and the laggy SMS loading... Those were major issues, this one is just a not very good "feature" that, I believe, we'll be able to deactivate some way. Am I wrong?
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I have never had the problem with sms not send or stuck in out box.
But the sms history loading fix is to me a hide away fix that realy don't fix the problem, when you have a bunch of sms in history it's impossible to type a sms while this history is loading even though you now can get the keybord up and showing it self You can't use it until the history is loaded, because the device is to slow to type on while it does.

I had this in 1.48 too. It's not new but is very annoying.

fray_bentos said:
the '12#' bug only occurs (for me) if you are replying to a text, have XT9 on and press the '12#' key when the predictive row is onscreen offering alternative words - then when the '12#' key is pressed the cursor jumps to the start of the box.
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happens to me every time

I also have both these problems. It selects a message halfway through me typing which is soooo annoying! I also can repeat the problem with 12# though i dont use XT9 so its not a big deal for me. The first problem is though. Its turning into a real joke that after several rom updates and hotfixs they still haven't got SMS working properly.
This is the best gadget I have ever owned but probably the worst phone lol

bzdemes said:
I also have both these problems. It selects a message halfway through me typing which is soooo annoying! I also can repeat the problem with 12# though i dont use XT9 so its not a big deal for me. The first problem is though. Its turning into a real joke that after several rom updates and hotfixs they still haven't got SMS working properly.
This is the best gadget I have ever owned but probably the worst phone lol
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I agree.
It'll probably be version 5.22 before these issues are finally resolved. Until then, we're nothing more than a large group of beta testers.

Thanks for the replies.
I wonder when they will get it right. Maybe on the 3.22 ROM

It's hard for me to understand how all these issues can keep on being in the sms software. Isn't anyone at HTC using their own phone? If they do it shouldn't take too long to get annoyed of the software and wan't to change it a little...

Weird problem in SMS app

Whenever I tap on a message to reply, i cant simply tap to insert text, if i do it take away the cursor and highlights the last message in black. Or, I open then message and have to wait a few seconds for the last msg to be highlighted in black, then enter my text.
Any way to fix this?
Thanks.

I'm not sure whats happening with this bug, but I had this happen on 2 HD2s that I've had so far. It happens with both Swype and the regular HTC keyboard. Sometimes, I'll just be tryping, and all of a sudden, the screen will jump, and highlight a previous message (turn black) and then I have to tap the lower part of the current SMS message to get it refocued back again. Very unusual bug and I hope there is a fix for it.

I can start typing, but as you said it jumpes back. Then I must scroll down again.

It's the crappy HTCMessaging app. It has never been properly sorted since the HD2 came to be. Just do what i did and install a ROM that doesn't have that utterly ****e app on and you'll never look back

padlad said:
It's the crappy HTCMessaging app. It has never been properly sorted since the HD2 came to be. Just do what i did and install a ROM that doesn't have that utterly ****e app on and you'll never look back
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Do you know of a ROM for the T-Mobile USA HD2 that doesnt have HTC messaging?
Or is there a way to remove it from my current ROM?

Same thing happens to me today, I start typing, it jumps to the previous message and highlights it in black. Ugh, annoying!

same here
have the same bug and my HTC is becoming very slow..even when there is no application running in the background..have to soft reset atleast once a day..so much for the snapdragon and RAM

Same problem as I have - it's very annoying. Running the 1.66 SEA ROM, with Swype installed - although the problem began before I installed Swype. I find what actually happens is that the phone registers the keypresses, and if you tap on the write message area, those keys you've tapped appear. I believe I read somewhere else on the forum about this problem, but couldn't find the thread. Any suggestions for alternates to HTC Messaging?

SMS - message text disappears - reappears

When responding to sms messages I find that as I am typing the message the words are appearing as desired but then sometimes the text stops appearing in the message mid way through as I continue to type and the previous message is highlighted for no reason that I can understand. I then tap on the message window where I am writing and everything that I typed, which was not being displayed is there. Annoying, happens frequently.

i second that motion...
happens to me 2, btw do you have the tweak where there is a send button above the insert file option?
thought it might be that?

Nope, I don't have that tweak.

yeah, happens to me too, I'm in the uk on t-mobile. its really irritating

airwater9 said:
Nope, I don't have that tweak.
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cool so that rules that out
JR

Htc messaging client
airwater9 said:
When responding to sms messages I find that as I am typing the message the words are appearing as desired but then sometimes the text stops appearing in the message mid way through as I continue to type and the previous message is highlighted for no reason that I can understand. I then tap on the message window where I am writing and everything that I typed, which was not being displayed is there. Annoying, happens frequently.
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For the problem regarding the message disappearing then reappearing if you tap on the input area i have no clue why is that so and wondering is there a fix for that, or probably custom roms do not have that problem.
However, if you want to prevent the problem of "previous message is highlighted for no reason.." i suggest each time you reply to a message in HTC Sense, use the right softkey and choose reply, the previous message is probably highlighted because you tap on the actual message and start replying from there, as you chose to enter the messaging client to view that message and the HTC MESSAGING CLIENT takes time to load all the messages from that contact, it will highlight that particular/latest message after loading all the previous messages associated with the contact hence the highlight interrupting your reply.
P.S sorry for my lengthy answer

That doesn't solve the problem as that option is not available in the message string view.

Yeah, i experience this problem too
i'm using 1.66 WWE ROM and im pretty sure its just on 1.66
Everyone using this ROM experiences it if you're in Conversation mode and select the text to reply..
Basically if you have a lot of messages with 1 person, the HD2 is loading the messages WHILE you're typing, and once its done loading, it will highlight the previous message and thats where your cursor disappears..
i'm still looking for a solution to this too
i'm curious if this appears on cooked ROMs like Duttys..
cause if it doesnt, i would probably think of upgrading haha

I got a similar issue, although it's not just SMS, but emails too. Another guy reported the same: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showpost.php?p=6283141&postcount=2. Waht's going on suddenly?

airwater9 said:
That doesn't solve the problem as that option is not available in the message string view.
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The reply option is available when you go under menu>reply under the messaging preview in SENSE. For the highlight option, haven't found a solution to that either!

jamieross said:
btw do you have the tweak where there is a send button above the insert file option?
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To enable graphic send icon button in HTC Messaging
The following registry tweak adds a graphic send button above the paperclip button. It also changes the 'send' left soft key to a 'back' soft key.
HKEY_CURRENT_USER\Software\HTC\Manila\LSK_Send_Msg
Change from 1 to 0.
Ref: item #41 on http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=583638

Franwella said:
To enable graphic send icon button in HTC Messaging
The following registry tweak adds a graphic send button above the paperclip button. It also changes the 'send' left soft key to a 'back' soft key.
HKEY_CURRENT_USER\Software\HTC\Manila\LSK_Send_Msg
Change from 1 to 0.
Ref: item #41 on http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=583638
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thanks Franwella but I have it already I was just ruling out the possibility that the tweak in some way effected the original topic of this thread
JR

jamieross said:
thanks Franwella but I have it already I was just ruling out the possibility that the tweak in some way effected the original topic of this thread
JR
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Ah-ha! Sorry. I misunderstood.
I'm afraid I can't shed much light on the problem. I have the same issue but only very occasionally. Every now and again it happens but not consistently. I haven't been able to pin down a cause.

Me neither - I cannot say why sometimes it does it and other times it does not when operating the phone in the same fashion.
You guys need to log this with customer services so that they can get onto it for the forthcoming firmware update. This phone is not that new anymore and there will probably only be the odd software update coming in future.

I always just hide the keyboard and reopen it.

Toss3 said:
I always just hide the keyboard and reopen it.
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OK, from where you are sat this is an 'endearing characteristic' of your phone and from where the rest of us are sat it's a bug.

Really common bug, reported here also:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=585055
Please report it to HTC, it might get fixed then!

airwater9 said:
OK, from where you are sat this is an 'endearing characteristic' of your phone and from where the rest of us are sat it's a bug.
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Never said it wasn't a bug, I just offered a simple fix. The same thing happens to me as well.

That's not a fix as it does not prevent the problem from reoccurring, it only remedies the symptom.
If this is affecting you, you need to report it to HTC.

airwater9 said:
That's not a fix as it does not prevent the problem from reoccurring, it only remedies the symptom.
If this is affecting you, you need to report it to HTC.
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Already reported. You really ought to learn some manners.

[REF] Desire Z - OTA 1.72 for those without root etc

Hi
This thread is about the new 1.72 OTA update for anyone who hasn't rooted, s-off'd etc.. Its for discussing changes, improvements, new bugs and such like. As there is no official change list, note it down and we'll get there.
If you own, or have questions about the G2, this is not applicable, the software is different. This is for the Stock Desire Z as shipped. Thanks!!
Downloaded over WLAN and it installed in about 10 mins and several reboots. If you can, try hard reset as its been reported this helps with the SMS notification bug.
My observations (UK SIM free):
New Android build (2.2.1)
New Kernel (2.6.32.21-g540976a Dec 1st)
New Radio (12.28e.60.140fU_26.04.02.17_M2)
Fixes:
Battery life better (mixed reports, but probably slightly better)
Rear speaker louder (again, needs to be tested in the wild)
Wireless LAN seems a lot quicker
Camera application improved.. (Stuttering improved when recording 720p Thanks, monomer888 & tbalden)
Snappier / Smoother menu transitions
More characters in hardware SYM list (like < and > )
Annoying Text message bug seems better but not solved (type screen jumps down as msg's load)
The delivery receipt now shows the contact name instead of the phone number. (Thanks missparker76)
Adding linked (Phone + Facebook, LinkedIn, etc.) contacts to groups (e.g. Favorites) now works - they appear in the list of contacts when trying to add them. (Thanks Darthmelk)
BUGS:
SMS notifications.. Occasionally doesn't notify, sometimes cant dismiss until you go to the notification screen (Thanks Algobardo) HTC are aware..
Its lost my notification settings, sounds, volumes but that easy to put back. Kept themes, backgrounds, widgets and most other settings.
[RESOLVED] HTCSense.com not connecting to phone. Messages and Contacts still sync but unable to get location, lock or ring phone.
Slightly increased lag when rotating sense (Thanks knoeki )
Gallery showing unviewable files as a broken icon, sometimes not updating (Thanks moolash)
Changes:
New Dock menu item in settings?? (I thought it was new too Darthmelk)
LinkedIn and Picasa updates are either included, or working properly now. (Thanks Darthmelk)
Discuss!!
Craig

HTC said something about camera improvements, notice anything there ?

Erm, there seems to be more settings to play with. Maybe a bit quicker to focus and flash timing improved..

And it fixed my menu button

MacaronyMax said:
And it fixed my menu button
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What was wrong with your Menu button ?

steviewevie said:
What was wrong with your Menu button ?
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It wouldn't work... The phone would vibrate when I pressed it but nothing would appear, although the one on the keyboard would open the menu
Got me scared at first... thought it was a faulty phone

I think there's a new "Dock" option in Settings, to start the Car Panel automatically when the phone is mounted in a holder. Was it there before? Probably there are lots of very small bug-fixes we don't notice.
Battery seems as bad as always for now (using push and 2hr syncs), the hardware keyboard still doesn't have the romanian symbol "ă" when long-pressing "a". Btw, is there a way to install other languages for the hardware keyboard? I only get English.

after the ota mine has a quite annoying problem.
When i read a sms message the notification on top doesn't disapper unless i access the messaging application through the notification itself.
Anyone with the same problem ?
Suggested solutions ?

Algobardo said:
after the ota mine has a quite annoying problem.
When i read a sms message the notification on top doesn't disapper unless i access the messaging application through the notification itself.
Anyone with the same problem ?
Suggested solutions ?
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Confirmed.. Thats annoying. [EDIT] SOMETIMES!!!! Its now working.
It did it for me initially when I got the phone with stock 1.34 but never did it again.. Maybe its while it refreshes / builds the back end database.
Just now I sent about 4 messages (from external devices) where it would not dismiss or in one case not even notify!! But i've sent about 10 now that work flawlessly every time.
Maybe worth clearing all the messages out after upgrading. Its clear they've been working on the SMS app as I don't get the jumping text box any more
Craig

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...the hardware keyboard still doesn't have the romanian symbol "ă" when long-pressing "a". Btw, is there a way to install other languages for the hardware keyboard? I only get English.
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I think you need to change your locale to ro_RO (Romanian (Romania).

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And it fixed my menu button
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Cant say I've every had that one! perhaps a bad flash from factory or a hangover from rooting??
Thanks
Craig

Ive had that annoying notification bug (Hi, 1 week into desire z ownership btw), and I have definitely had messages without notification too. Does seem to be a bit random tho. Will see how it goes. Otherwise, it's a pretty good phone. Nice to see a section with ppl who don't root the lives outta their phones, i'm trying really hard not to for a while if i can, as you just end up changing things and re-setting everything up on a weekly basis else, and i've had enough of all that.

keinengel said:
I think you need to change your locale to ro_RO (Romanian (Romania).
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Nope, that will only change all the text into Romanian, but it will not add a Romanian hardware keyboard option (so no "ă" character when long-pressing "a").

Algobardo said:
after the ota mine has a quite annoying problem.
When i read a sms message the notification on top doesn't disapper unless i access the messaging application through the notification itself.
Anyone with the same problem ?
Suggested solutions ?
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At last - I'm not going mad - mine does this too after the OTA update - it's really really annoying. It's actually worse than described, because if you clear the notification by dragging the notification bar, any future SMS messages will *not* actually be alerted - no sound, no notification icon, no notification button number.
We need a fix...

I don't have this problem. If I get a new SMS, I can slide to the SMS widget and the notification clears instantly (but the SMS is still unread until I get to the SMS app, of course). If I clear the notification after dragging down the notification screen, I will get a new notification when a new SMS arrives.
"When i read a sms message the notification on top doesn't disapper" - where do you read the SMS if not inside the SMS app?

As i've previously posted, I haven't had the no notification or clear problem since.. I've been sending and receiving messages so it seems to clear itself. I use the messaging app from a shortcut.
See if it just clears by itself..

Yeah, ok. If it persists, I may use SMS Backup and clear out the database and start afresh. It is behaving at the moment...
Anyone notice the new teardrop caret/cursor when moving the cursor in a text input box?
Also, camera is still pants compared with my old Desire and the update doesn't seem to have done anything to improve quality.
Sent from my HTC Vision using XDA App

I got this for Xmas, I openen the box and before playing around with 1.34 that came with it I installed the OTA 1.72.
I am amazed, have no bugs to complain about. I do not see a reason to get root or so. Sense is fine, I love it.
I came from WM, pretty many tweak skills, but i don't need tweaking any yet.
Sent from my HTC Vision using XDA App

I have definitly noticed issue with sms notification too ... Undoubtly there is something wrong and it triggers just sometimes.
Another thing which may have changed is in menu where you choose your ring tone - I think there wasnt option to choose any mp3 from your phone. I had have to google some instructions how to do it which involved copying mp3 to the specific folder.

Yeah, updated fine all seems good, only thing to complain about is the SMS problems, doesnt even let me know i got a text most the time.
Tried factory reset erasing everything ect nothing helps
Just have to wait for a fix then i guess...