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Hi all!
I want to develop a Secure SMS application for mobile phones. The idea would be to first add some security primitives to the OS and then to use these to write secure applications (such as SSMS).
Now, the thing is that this is experimental, meaning my goal is not (yet) to distribute an application reaching the most people, i.e. I would like to first limit the project to one platform and see how well it works there.
My question to you is: Which platform would be best suited for that (or alternatively: which platform should I avoid...), i.e. which platform has the best SDK for this kind of thing and how easy is it to do?
Thanks for your answers.
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Well, to really be honest with you, my experience tells me that secure SMS ans secure-whatever will be best suited to those blackberry people. The reason they do buy a blackberry is for it's security, or so it seems.
Us Windows Mobile users could of course take advantage of an app like this, and it's way easier to program for a WM device, since there's emulators and SDKs everywhere.
Easiest platform actually would probably be java then its portable
Hello,
I am very new to Android.
Let's say I have an Android v1.5 device that's not a phone.
can you modify the interface upon powering on or launch such that ONLY the app(s) you want the person to use is allowed?
Thanks
Marco
"User" support isn't included in the version of Android currently being used in mobile phones.
If someone wanted to develop it, I guess it could be done.. but it's a lot of work for a feature that likely few would use.
Hi,
I need some help finding out which phone to buy. We are a family of three and need one each. It will primarily be used to access google calendar (multiple calendars), Gmail, Google maps (with GPS) and browsing. Is a Taatoo not good enough for this? We have been offered three cheap used devices, but I do not know if we should buy a newer/bigger android phone instead.
What do you think - is Tattoo sufficient?
Thanks,
jakoande said:
Hi,
I need some help finding out which phone to buy. We are a family of three and need one each. It will primarily be used to access google calendar (multiple calendars), Gmail, Google maps (with GPS) and browsing. Is a Taatoo not good enough for this? We have been offered three cheap used devices, but I do not know if we should buy a newer/bigger android phone instead.
What do you think - is Tattoo sufficient?
Thanks,
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Well, if you are not into the stuff of OS upgrades and so on, then Android 1.6 (Tattoo's OS) pretty much does the stuff you primarily want to do...but if you also want bluetooth file transfer you should look forward to get a device for which an android 2.1 OS is available..
Thanks,
btw - is there a android 1.6 emulator somewhere so I can see what it can do?
And last question - if we buy a tattoo can we upgrade to a newer version of android (i know about the 2.1 update not being avalible - but is there a 1.9-2.0 upgrade?). I can see you use a bootimage - can that be downloaded somewhere?
Thanks,
(and sorry for the studpid questions)
There are no stupid questions, only stupid answers
Back to topic:
About emulators - you can download Android SDK 1.6, which features an emulator you can configure and play around with freely if you want...sorry, have no tutorial, but it's pretty much straight forward...
Unfortunately it's not as simple as thought - since the Android OS has to communicate correctly with all the hardware in the phone the device drivers and configurations are the main problem when trying to provide new OS versions such as 2.1 or 2.2...
The bootimage is only suitable if you want root priviledges on your phone all the time, but here it is (I assume you know what has to be done with it, if not: read the how tos...they are excellent...)
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showpost.php?p=5792750&postcount=38
Hello Friends,
I have a question for all of the mobile developers. You might think I'm Joking. But its Serious. Is there any way to run android apps(2.1-2.3) in HTC HD2(Leo) which is running Windows Mobile? Many People Say 'NO'. But emulation of any OS is possible. We all thought that we can run PS2 games only on Sony Playstation 2 but we were proved wrong by PCSX2 by launching first PS2 Emulator. So I want to know is there any emulator by which I can run android apps on my HTC HD2? Its difficult but I think XDA Developers can make this type of emulators. It will also help thousands of people. I am an IT Professional and a software developer(Windows) but i don't know about developing apps for mobile. Otherwise would have made/wrote android apps in WM language/scripts. Some News also came that there are certain Converters which can convert Android Apps into J2ME or WM apps. I need a solution to this problem.
Regards,
Arun
Themegastar1 CEO
I believe there was originally an Android emulator running on WM, but it was slooooooooow!!! There's a whole slew of reasons as to why an Android emulator won't run well on WM, memory being the obvious main one. That's why Android ports were developed to run off the SD card, first dumping Windows from the memory and then running Linux.
Depending on your development experience, you may want to look into programming for Android anyway, if that's where your interest lies. If you've done anything like C# (or other .Net based language like VB.Net) then it's not that big a leap. If you've already done Java development then it's really not a problem - you just need to learn the Android SDK.
If you are intersted, have a look at the following tutorial...
http://www.vogella.de/articles/Android/article.html
It's a great starting point for Android development. It walks you through setting up the dev environment and then a few simple apps to get you going. Any OO experience you have will definitely help. (It may actually prove difficult without it - I can't say for sure.)
Hope this helps
themegastar1 said:
Hello Friends,
I have a question for all of the mobile developers. You might think I'm Joking. But its Serious. Is there any way to run android apps(2.1-2.3) in HTC HD2(Leo) which is running Windows Mobile? Many People Say 'NO'. But emulation of any OS is possible. We all thought that we can run PS2 games only on Sony Playstation 2 but we were proved wrong by PCSX2 by launching first PS2 Emulator. So I want to know is there any emulator by which I can run android apps on my HTC HD2? Its difficult but I think XDA Developers can make this type of emulators. It will also help thousands of people. I am an IT Professional and a software developer(Windows) but i don't know about developing apps for mobile. Otherwise would have made/wrote android apps in WM language/scripts. Some News also came that there are certain Converters which can convert Android Apps into J2ME or WM apps. I need a solution to this problem.
Regards,
Arun
Themegastar1 CEO
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I just did a search on your question. And from all the sites i've seen they all come up with the same answer: "no"
The two systems are too far apart from each other to be able to 'port' or emulate it apparently.
At least, this is what i found. Maybe some others might have more luck.
Problem still Not Resolved.
I read both of Your Comments, but still problem is not resolved. johncmolyneux you have told me that there is an emulator(Slow ones), can u tell me the name of that emulator? And I don't want to install android. I have given thanks to you both, but still My problem is not resolved. I need a way to run android apps on wm 6.5.
themegastar1 said:
I read both of Your Comments, but still problem is not resolved. johncmolyneux you have told me that there is an emulator(Slow ones), can u tell me the name of that emulator? And I don't want to install android. I have given thanks to you both, but still My problem is not resolved. I need a way to run android apps on wm 6.5.
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It was about 8-9 months ago so no, I'm afraid don't know the name, but it was on xda so you can search the forum for it.
Let me put it clearly though. The emulator was so slow that it was immediately dropped and no-one ever used it. It's basically Windows, running a Linux emulator, running Android. It was terrible and unusable.
Why is it imperative that you run Android apps on WM? If you explain then maybe we can understand more and hopefully offer more constructive help.
Why I want to run Android Apps on WM.
The Reason for this is- I need Google Goggles for my HD2 and some other apps too. But Windows Mobile Technology is Better, Easy to Use and Expensive. And HTC offers HTC Sense along with HD2 which makes it more easy to use and attractive too. These all things are not possible by using Android. But Android has a big App Marketplace. This is the reason why I want to run android apps in WM.
Okay, I'll make it very clear then. You will not get this. The only solutions available are to find a version of google goggles on WM (not likely), or to run Android on your phone.
You can run it from the SD card, but it does mean a restart every time you want to switch from WM to Android and then back again.
Also, there are many Android builds available that include HTC Sense. There's some very nice Desire HD builds out there.
Sorry to give bad news, but you are not going to get what you're asking for.
OK! Necessity leads to invention!
Ya, but still, IF I make something then the problem will be resolved. I'm thinking to make Android Emulator in this Summer(May-June 2011). If I made it, then it will be good for all WM users, so nobody will switch to Android to get all apps. Anyway, johncmolyneux thanks for your efforts. By the way, Which Phone you are using. And with which OS(WM/Android/Bada/Ubuntu/S40/S60/Symbian 3rd Edition or any other) you are using? Necessity leads to invention!
Regards
Arun Wadhwa
Themegastar1 Owner
Please give me THANKS!!!!!
Well good luck with that mate - I think you'll need it
I'm using a Nexus One Gingerbread ROM at the minute. It's fast and stable - everything works just like a native Android device!
You do realize that you can boot into Android from Windows mobile on your hd2. That way you have winmo still on your phone, and when you need to use Android, you can use haret.exe to boot into an Android build running from the SD card. You have to restart the phone to get back into Windows mobile, but that only takes a minute or 2. And it only takes a minute to boot into Android. This way you can run both OS's on your hd2.
Sent from my HTC HD2 using XDA App
themegastar1 said:
Ya, but still, IF I make something then the problem will be resolved. I'm thinking to make Android Emulator in this Summer(May-June 2011). If I made it, then it will be good for all WM users, so nobody will switch to Android to get all apps.
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Excelent example of high achievment goal.
So what you need?
Remapping all Android API to WM API with necessary additional functionality, so running whole Android emulator will be not necessary. This will save memory and gain some speed.
Similar to already known solutions on Linux platform which can run Windows applications on several platforms like winehq.org.
How much effort will be necessary?
Depends on which applications area that has to be covered.
Depends on knowledges about both operating systems.
Depends on accessibility to source code of the system and the applications which supposed to run with this framework.
Is summer vacations enough?
Future will reveal, but if you really are genius, please turn to good side
So this project will be definitely something which people will pay for, those who has WM favorites programs and are not willing to change the whole system to run some new.
Anyway aplications will be maybe running, but most of them will miss the stability and advantages of the Android operating system.
pedroxxx said:
Excelent example of high achievment goal.
So what you need?
Remapping all Android API to WM API with necessary additional functionality, so running whole Android emulator will be not necessary. This will save memory and gain some speed.
Similar to already known solutions on Linux platform which can run Windows applications on several platforms like winehq.org.
How much effort will be necessary?
Depends on which applications area that has to be covered.
Depends on knowledges about both operating systems.
Depends on accessibility to source code of the system and the applications which supposed to run with this framework.
Is summer vacations enough?
Future will reveal, but if you really are genius, please turn to good side
So this project will be definitely something which people will pay for, those who has WM favorites programs and are not willing to change the whole system to run some new.
Anyway aplications will be maybe running, but most of them will miss the stability and advantages of the Android operating system.
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I think I got some of the Ideas, I have to Create a platform build on Windows Mobile with the help of WM API, it will require Android SDK too. If I will create an app that has the compatibility of Android, I could name it as Emulator. Means just another platform running on a OS.
i would donate for this...
work hard guys..gudluck!
Hey guys,
today I found this topic http://forum.xda-developers.com/and...ndroid-wear-ios-devhelpneededappbeta-t3051156 where they basically got an Android Wear Device to connect with iOS.. now my thinking was, shouldn't this be possible for Windows Phone aswell? BLE is present, there are even Smartwatch Apis. So, shouldn't we just be able to get Android wear to accept a Windows Phone connection aswell in rerouting the correct apis etc.?
Here's a sample sourcecode to get an idea on what they did https://github.com/zhangfh/ANCSSample
Now, since this involves both Windows Phone AND Android, I am not sure on where to post this, so I'll just post it here. If you guys want it moved, that's fine with me.
Now to the Windows Phone part. Even if the Apps itself won't push to wear, it should always be possible to just write a notification app (like Boxcar for iOS) where you log into your social networking stuff and let THAT push to wear. Now, I'm not sure if there are enough apis or if they are even available for public use or OEM/MS restricted, but I thought it was worth a post, since we've been missing out a lot with those shiny new gadgets.
Also, I think an unencrypted MS Band/Health appx should help in determining the correct apis, calls etc (I'm still learning, not there just yet.) needed.
I hope this post is not completely worthless and if someone has already done some stuff, I'd be willing to test it out since my G Watch R (using a secondary phone just for that...) will be arriving next week!
cheers, hutchinsane_
WP8.1 does indeed have BTLE APIs, so it should be pretty easy to use them for this. As you say, you'd have to write the apps yourself because the current WP ones probably don't interface with Android Wear, but it would probably be fairly popular if you did...
GoodDayToDie said:
WP8.1 does indeed have BTLE APIs, so it should be pretty easy to use them for this. As you say, you'd have to write the apps yourself because the current WP ones probably don't interface with Android Wear, but it would probably be fairly popular if you did...
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Unfortunately, Microsoft ignored some important BT4/BLE specs in their BT stack implementation. For some (let me say - STUPID!) reasons, BLE device must be paired before it become available for the MS BLE API I have no idea why they did it; probably, they are trying to be more "secure" even they ruin whole BLE idea...
So, if BLE device not supported pairing, you can't support it on WP8.1 or Win 8.1... One more "thanks" to MS...
P.S. What's why I can't control my PowerUp 3.0 paper plane gadget from my Lumia 920 (but it works perfect on iOS or Android)
sensboston said:
Unfortunately, Microsoft ignored some important BT4/BLE specs in their BT stack implementation. For some (let me say - STUPID!) reasons, BLE device must be paired before it become available for the MS BLE API I have no idea why they did it; probably, they are trying to be more "secure" even they ruin whole BLE idea...
So, if BLE device not supported pairing, you can't support it on WP8.1 or Win 8.1... One more "thanks" to MS...
P.S. What's why I can't control my PowerUp 3.0 paper plane gadget from my Lumia 920 (but it works perfect on iOS or Android)
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My G Watch R arrived today and it does pair and connect with my phone. The phone says "connected", the watch says "connecting" but none of the functions work, as expected. So connection shouldn't be a problem!
@hutchinsane_, it means you still have a hope You may try some BLE-enabled apps from the store like a "BLE Scanner" but for the full support of your LG "G Watch К" you should wait until someone will write an app for this gadget (actually - I just re-read topic - not just for your gadget but for Android Wear OS. This is kinda complicated job so there's not much hope...)
sensboston said:
@hutchinsane_, it means you still have a hope You may try some BLE-enabled apps from the store like a "BLE Scanner" but for the full support of your LG "G Watch К" you should wait until someone will write an app for this gadget (actually - I just re-read topic - not just for your gadget but for Android Wear OS. This is kinda complicated job so there's not much hope...)
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well someone already did it for iOS, so I guess it can't be that hard. But I'm way to inexperienced and lazy. hope someone will be inspired by this post. I'll try the BLE Scanner!
Edit: I just noticed that Android Wear Devices show up in Device Hub... they are recognised as watches. Veeery interesting.
Edit 2: @sensboston I just noticed that the watch wont pair with my 920 either, maybe it's the phones fault that your PowerUp doesn't work