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Hi, after installing MarkVan's true VGA package in this link
http://www.jaml.com/MvRTrueVGA/, I have identified the following issues that I'm still unable to solved. I thought that a special thread to address specifically problems after this installation might be helpful.
I'll start by first listing what I've identified as problems:
1) setting>system>backlight screen could not be used. This problem is serious, as somehow by default, the backlight is switched off after just a few seconds in true VGA mode. Even if I try, using QVGA mode to change it such that backlight will not be switched off, as soon as I toggle back to the true VGA mode, it is switched off after 10 seconds again.
2)setting>system>clear storage screen is garbed. It is difficult to make up what the input instruction are in performing hard reset. Not critical but would be nice if the screen could be fixed.
3)setting>system>power screen is garbed due to wrong sized icon. This is minor problem.
4) Setting>system>TV out screen title has the wrong font. Minor problem
5) Setting>system>VueFLO screen title has wrong sized font. Minor problem
6)setting>connection>comm manager screen is garbed. Not being able to control the connection could be quite a problem. In this application, the Settins>Wireless LAN screen is also garbed. I can solve this problem by installing Commmgrpro to give exactly the same functionality, however. Therefore, I would say this is not really an issue. But would be nice if someone already know how to solve this.
7)setting>connection>wireless Lan heading and the screen is garbed. The screen could not be used. The font sizes within all tabs are of wrong sizes. Again, CommmgrPro solves this problem by replacing this.
8)setting>personal>phone (pin2 and "more" tab) are garbed
9) Phone. Although I've applied VJbigpohne, I'm somehow unable to get exactly the same effect as what vj has in his screen shot. His screen shot showed that the numbers are nicely sitting in the centre of the phone buttons and the phone stretches all the way to the bottom of the screen. Mine looks different and ugly. The numbers are sitting to the extreme right edge of the buttons and there is a blank space at the bottom of the screen. I would like to fix this to look good
10) Spb GPRS monitor plugin has wrong sized font. As a result, I cannot see the download speed of my connection. The main application itself, which shows in chart form the usage has no problem. I have been looking for another product that works fully under VGA mode to replace the Spb GPRS monitor, but none of them gives me the download speed (They only shows the total MB downloaded, but not the Kbps info)
11)Pocket music. In landscape mode the option and playlist buttons are missing. In portrait mode there is no such problem. edit: this is not the vga problem,as it also behaves the same way I'm qvga mode.
12) Software Input Panel, or the soft keyboards, are soooo small, that they are unuseable. The standard big keyboard was nice as I can use my finger to type it without covering up the screen. If it is not possible to use the original soft keyboard, then I would like to use the HiKeyboard, because this keyboard has the ability to also do the job the the Spb full keyboard, as well as provide a calculator keypad. I like Hikeyboard the best, among all the ones I've evaluated. However, with MvrTrueVGA, I'd be forced to use only the resco keyboard. I prefer not to pay for resco keyboard, and to pay for Spb full keyboard, when I can just pay for Hikeyboard. I also much prefer HiKeyboard over Spb Full keyboard because it has the option to reveal what you have typed without exiting the full keyboard. Coming to the worst I'd get the Resco Keyboard although it is not as good as the Hikeyboard, so I supposed this is not the most seriuos matter.
13) Quick GPS program does not display correctly, and at the bottom of the screen display does not reach all the way to the edge of the screen. It looks ugly. Also, you can't see vital date and validity information on this screen.
14) Pocket Mechanics - The icons are too big and the characters are too small. It look real ugly as compared to the QVGA appearance.
15) My VOIP client SJPhone does not stretch all the way to the bottom. In landscape mode, the bottom part of the applications are cut off, while it leaves a big hole on the right. EDIT: qvga display landscape mode is also faulty I'm the same way.
16) In QVGA mode, my H and G indicator for data download has disappeared under true VGA mode. In place of the H (which means HSDPA connection is available), it shows the "connection is active" indicator instead.
In place of "HSDPA is in use" indicator, it shows just the signal strength without indicating whether I'm on a UMTS or HSDPA connection.
There might be more problems with other applications which I have not listed, and if you know of any, please add them in as a repository for all of us to look at.
It is possible that some of you have got solutions to the above problems.
If so, let's post the solution here, quoting the problem number if you can.
Thanks guys and gals
I'm not sure (and I'm happy if I'm wrong) but I think the best answer is:
"Yeah, but what'cha gonna do..."
WM5 is not intended to be used in full 640x480 mode, roumors will have it that WM6 is. So let's keep our hopes up.
But you obviously have more problems than me. Most screens are good and readable for me, except the phone (before applying VJBigPhone), Clear Storage, QuickGPS and the G/E/U/H icons + signal level. Of all these, the GEUH and signal level indicator is the only thing I "need" fixed (I can live with the rest).
Moskus said:
I'm not sure (and I'm happy if I'm wrong) but I think the best answer is:
"Yeah, but what'cha gonna do..."
WM5 is not intended to be used in full 640x480 mode, roumors will have it that WM6 is. So let's keep our hopes up.
But you obviously have more problems than me. Most screens are good and readable for me, except the phone (before applying VJBigPhone), Clear Storage, QuickGPS and the G/E/U/H icons + signal level. Of all these, the GEUH and signal level indicator is the only thing I "need" fixed (I can live with the rest).
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Hi Moskus,
Thanks for the reply.
May I get more specific about what you're having?
a) You mean your soft input panel (on screen keyboard) is not too tiny? Are you using Resco keyboard to overcome the problem? Are you able to use the standard with no problem?
b) Your backlight adjustment screen is okay? Using the standard or replacement which consumes additional memory?
c) What about yout comm manger screen? Are you still using the standard or using a replacement which takes up more memory?
d) Your phone does not leave a hole at the bottom after VJbigpohne is applied? The characters on the keys are centered or also to the edge? I saw VJ555's screen shot and its as beautiful as the standard. Mine is aweful looking, although it works. Are you having the perfect looking screen just like VJ555's or are you putting up with the less than perfect looking screen?
e) Do you use SPbGPRS monitor? When you click the task bar icon, does the pop up screen display correctly? Or are you not using this?
f) Your quick GPS is displaying okay?
g) What is your ROM version?
h) What it your os language?
Thank you for sharing these information.
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Hi Moskus,
Thanks for the reply.
May I get more specific about what you're having?
a) You mean your soft input panel (on screen keyboard) is not too tiny? Are you using Resco keyboard to overcome the problem? Are you able to use the standard with no problem?
b) Your backlight adjustment screen is okay? Using the standard or replacement which consumes additional memory?
c) What about yout comm manger screen? Are you still using the standard or using a replacement which takes up more memory?
d) Your phone does not leave a hole at the bottom after VJbigpohne is applied? The characters on the keys are centered or also to the edge? I saw VJ555's screen shot and its as beautiful as the standard. Mine is aweful looking, although it works. Are you having the perfect looking screen just like VJ555's or are you putting up with the less than perfect looking screen?
e) Do you use SPbGPRS monitor? When you click the task bar icon, does the pop up screen display correctly? Or are you not using this?
f) Your quick GPS is displaying okay?
g) What is your ROM version?
h) What it your os language?
Thank you for sharing these information.
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I think we have different "standards" for what the problems are.
a. I'm using the Resco keyboard, since the original is not showing up (as described in many other threads here and at the Qtek 9000 forum)
b. The backlight adjustment screen is OK.
c. The Comm Manager is "squished" but usable. I would prefer it if the icons were bigger, but I can use without any serious problems.
d. The phone does leave a gap at the bottom with the last displayed picture, and it would be nice if it didn't. But I can use the phone without problems.
e. I haven't tried SPG GPRS Monitor on this device. However, I do not have problems with the "home icon" that Magic Button is displaying in "Task Bar mode" and I can press/click on the other status indicators.
f. The QuickGPS application is also "squished" together as the Comm Manager is. But I can read when I last updated and I can find the "Update now" button without problems. I am able to use the program, but it could look nicer.
g. My ROM version is 1.25.409.2 (03/21/07).
h. My language is (not supprisingly) norwegian.
So TrueVGA is not perfect, and it probably never will be (until WM6 I hope). But I think the advantages (insert pun here) outweights the disadvantages. Using my Advantage without TrueVGA is not an option for me anymore.
I agree with you that it is not an option for many people. I guess I need to lower my expectation a little. It was just that after seeing the beautiful screen, the initial euphoria was somewhat dampened by the ugly screens for some places and for some program.
I'm using VGA mode most of the time, and use the largest font in the setting>system>screen>font selection due to the strain on my eye if I use other fonts.
One of the key problems that I had using trueVGA initially was that because I could not control the backlight setting, everytime I toggle to VGA mode, it revert to turning backlight off in 10 seconds. There is absolute no way to change it to stay on for longer time. So it was very frustration to look at an extremely dimmed screen which is totally unreadable outdoor. This problem seems to have gone away after two recent hard resets. With that problem gone, I guess I can live with the other imperfection
I had a simular problem with the backlight control --- I have installed "Todaywarrior" and I can control the backlight from the today screen now while in VGA mode.
leblancrs said:
I had a simular problem with the backlight control --- I have installed "Todaywarrior" and I can control the backlight from the today screen now while in VGA mode.
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Hi leblancrs,
Thanks for this info. What can today warrior do? Does it let you specify the elapsed time before backlight is off?
what else can it do?
You have the website link?
Spb pocket plus can adjust backlight, but not the time elapsed setting, I think.
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Hi leblancrs,
Thanks for this info. What can today warrior do? Does it let you specify the elapsed time before backlight is off?
what else can it do?
You have the website link?
Spb pocket plus can adjust backlight, but not the time elapsed setting, I think.
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Google is you're friend
http://personales.ya.com/beemer/todaywarrior1.htm
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I had a simular problem with the backlight control --- I have installed "Todaywarrior" and I can control the backlight from the today screen now while in VGA mode.
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Hi Leblancrs,
Downloaded that and tried it. Unfortunatley, this actually is not doing what I was talking about. While it provides a slider to control the backlight (which I can already do in many different ways without problem in VGA mode), it does not appear to have a facility to specify how many minutes must elapse before backlight is automatically switched off (battery and main would have a different setting of course). Or am I missing out something?
Well ive ordered one of these devices on the basis that Windows Mobile 6 offers VGA. Im pretty confident that is official not just hopeful but Microsoft have been known to dissapoint before.
If thats the case then I guess this device will be up on ebay pretty quick. Im not going through all the stuffing around for VGA like what you're all experiencing and like what I went through for Universal VGA. Despite the fact that converting to VGA seems to be a much easier process now.
Hhhmm
I have installed MW6 on my device and no native vga support I am afraid.
Oh well.
Those screens are way too small with VGA , like being blind!
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Those screens are way too small with VGA , like being blind!
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No, it's not. It's like seing alot!
It's absolutely excellent!
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No, it's not. It's like seing alot!
It's absolutely excellent!
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I used truevga for a while, although I didn't experience quite the same amount of problems as Eaglesteve I did have distorted comms and dialpad screens and was unable to change the brightness. There were a few other niggles but these were the prevalent one.
After getting over the novelty of tiny icons and lots of space on the today screen I eventually removed the program. Now IE and Opera support high resolution it seems like even less reason to use it.
There seems to be no REAL advantage to its use other than to view lots of icons at once.
Taking all the problems into account I can live with chunky icons - they're hardly offensive to the eyes. and I suppose didn't pay good money for a 5" screen to squint and have to get my pen out evey time I want to type something or navigate through menus.
Much as Microsoft DO neglect certain applications and functionlity with windows mobile I think that they have made a conscious decision not to use VGA and this decision would have been made for a reason, though we may never know it.
I'll install MVRTruevga again and give it another try now and see if my opinion alters......
leoni1980 said:
I used truevga for a while, although I didn't experience quite the same amount of problems as Eaglesteve I did have distorted comms and dialpad screens and was unable to change the brightness. There were a few other niggles but these were the prevalent one.
After getting over the novelty of tiny icons and lots of space on the today screen I eventually removed the program. Now IE and Opera support high resolution it seems like even less reason to use it.
There seems to be no REAL advantage to its use other than to view lots of icons at once.
Taking all the problems into account I can live with chunky icons - they're hardly offensive to the eyes. and I suppose didn't pay good money for a 5" screen to squint and have to get my pen out evey time I want to type something or navigate through menus.
Much as Microsoft DO neglect certain applications and functionlity with windows mobile I think that they have made a conscious decision not to use VGA and this decision would have been made for a reason, though we may never know it.
I'll install MVRTruevga again and give it another try now and see if my opinion alters......
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There are also a number of apps that look pretty strange with MvRTrueVGA. But I'll put up with some cosmetic defects for functionality. I just love being able to see a couple days of appointments, device status, weather info... plus an ilauncher strip, all on my today screen!
wgary said:
There are also a number of apps that look pretty strange with MvRTrueVGA. But I'll put up with some cosmetic defects for functionality. I just love being able to see a couple days of appointments, device status, weather info... plus an ilauncher strip, all on my today screen!
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I had the same excitement myself initially, though I found it difficult to press these icons with my fat fingers and inevitably decided that it was easier to just navigate to the program folder and leave essential apps for the today screen. I hope a new VGA solution is developed soon which makes the icons a bit bigger and throws up less garbled screens and program glitches.
In the interim does anyone have link for how to alter the sidebar/ softkey size so they look like thse in MVRtruevga? my internet is very slow on my phone today so searching is proving very frustrating.
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No, it's not. It's like seing alot!
It's absolutely excellent!
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your opinion dude , in mine its WAY too small, its not like you need to see so much at once . Who needs the eyestrain
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There seems to be no REAL advantage to its use other than to view lots of icons at once.
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Have you ever tried editing an Excel-spreadsheet or Word-document using MrVTrueVga? It's a must.
spacecat said:
your opinion dude , in mine its WAY too small, its not like you need to see so much at once . Who needs the eyestrain
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Sure it's my opinion, I was just commenting yours...
(To me) There is no eyestrain, so I don't "see" ( ) the problem...
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Have you ever tried editing an Excel-spreadsheet or Word-document using MrVTrueVga? It's a must.
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It is certainly easier to edit word and excel documents in VGA mode - I'm surprised MS didn't create a highres option for their office apps like the one in PIE.
You can change the default font size via the system>screen menu instead of switching to VGA for a slight improvement.
Hi guys, as soon as we get some more money the 2nd athena should be arriving to me, so in light of this i'd like to see what your feature requests are for the rom i will be building
Everything will be considered, but no guaruantees
Dont forget to
or this cant happen
suggestions...
Midget_1990 said:
Hi guys, as soon as we get some more money the 2nd athena should be arriving to me, so in light of this i'd like to see what your feature requests are for the rom i will be building
Everything will be considered, but no guaruantees
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- Fix all trueVGA graphical problems. Icons, screens, etc. I would like to run in trueVGA full time without having these types of issues.
- Unlock Extended ROM so people can put their own apps in for the next hard reset. ;-)
- Put the "Tray Display" utility into the ROM so people can show or hide their trays. File name "traydisplayinstall_196.CAB".
- Setup the "BlueTooth Tray Status & BT Audio Util" on the ROM. File name "btIO-0.5.CAB".
- Maybe the functionality to add/remove program icons from the tray without having to modify the registry? ;-)
- All black VGA theme. Similar to the default WM6 theme but all black.
- If possible, maybe an updated version of Pirazu so we can control a mouse cursor with the joystick?
- Alternative to BlueMouse so we can use a BT mouse cursor on the device. BlueMouse is nice but it costs.
Make it work like "Touch" may be the looks....
vueFlo for everything.
jab said:
vueFlo for everything.
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Yes...how did I forget this. For sure trying to tie the vueFlo into other apps and possibly games, etc.
ltxda said:
- Fix all trueVGA graphical problems. Icons, screens, etc. I would like to run in trueVGA full time without having these types of issues.
- Unlock Extended ROM so people can put their own apps in for the next hard reset. ;-)
- Put the "Tray Display" utility into the ROM so people can show or hide their trays. File name "traydisplayinstall_196.CAB".
- Setup the "BlueTooth Tray Status & BT Audio Util" on the ROM. File name "btIO-0.5.CAB".
- Maybe the functionality to add/remove program icons from the tray without having to modify the registry? ;-)
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For me, these first five would be a darn good start.
- With #1 - Usable dialer in TrueVGA would be #1 on my list.
Couple more (may already be fixed in WM6, but have yet to plunge):
- WiFi On/Off is flaky unless you actually go into the Comm Manager (e.g., PhoneAlarm and other programs are not effective)
- I still have problems doing multiple mappings to Win and OK buttons. AEBPlus does this kinda, but then other buttons get mucked up. Given few number of buttons, this is really limiting.
Wish list:
- USB-powered Beer Tap. I know the low-power port might be an issue, but I'm sure this should be doable. Integration with MS VC would also be great, "Computer, pour beer." (All I can say is, it's been a long day!)
Actually I should have just put mapping of the vueFlo API. That should open up the rest of the developers to building cool widgets also.
VueFlo for rotate screen like iPhone
bebox said:
VueFlo for rotate screen like iPhone
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That would be cool! I'm in favour!
i think rotate screen would a great feature when you see a photo .
widcomm bluetooth stack =) for dun
also a way to use another windows phone as a bt headset like the touch (if possible)
Solid & Fast ROM compatible with previous backups
Damn guys...you're not asking for much are you...hehe. Actually I quite like the sound of the all Black VGA ROM with Touch like interface.
But hey, I'll settle for a an all black super reliable and damn fast ROM in vanilla favour.
You guys have made some great suggestions, that I can't argue with. All I can say..is I'd love a ROM that I can use my Spb Backup files with...without corrupting any software, so when you release version 0.1, 0.2 etc...it will still be compatible with my backup files, making the switching of ROM's a quick thing to do.
I hate my phone being out of action. and having to re-install everything again.
I third the black vga theme. Also in vga mode is it possible to make the start bar a little bigger so it is more finger friendly. Something the size of when it it is in qvga mode would be great. Also when you push the start bar and the drop down list pops up it would be great if that was larger with larger text. Also at least for me in vga mode in wm6 none of the 3g, signal strength icons show up in the start bar only the time does.
The only thing i'm against is the vueFlo. Except the part about using vueFlo to sense when to rotate the screen.
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I third the black vga theme. Also in vga mode is it possible to make the start bar a little bigger so it is more finger friendly. Something the size of when it it is in qvga mode would be great. Also when you push the start bar and the drop down list pops up it would be great if that was larger with larger text. Also at least for me in vga mode in wm6 none of the 3g, signal strength icons show up in the start bar only the time does.
The only thing i'm against is the vueFlo. Except the part about using vueFlo to sense when to rotate the screen.
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why not just make vueflo toggle ?
c0mput0r said:
I third the black vga theme. Also in vga mode is it possible to make the start bar a little bigger so it is more finger friendly. Something the size of when it it is in qvga mode would be great. Also when you push the start bar and the drop down list pops up it would be great if that was larger with larger text. Also at least for me in vga mode in wm6 none of the 3g, signal strength icons show up in the start bar only the time does.
The only thing i'm against is the vueFlo. Except the part about using vueFlo to sense when to rotate the screen.
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i think i can fix the larger text part...
here try this
WARNING...THIS IS NOT REVERSIBLE....NOT WITHOUT CHANGING SOME REG. ENTRIES... AT LEAST (and i don't know which one's need to change!!)
works well with se VGA too esp. if you have fading eyesight!!!
How about an icon on the task bar that rotates screen.
Also, when using the device in QVGA mode, smaller icons on today screen, start/program screen, start/setting screens.
When in VGA mode, but running a QVGA program , show a matching size bigger soft key buttons.
Show connection icons (H, 3G, G) correctly when in true vga mode.
If you're looking to get rid of the menu bar at the bottom of the Today Screen, read on. This is not a new tip, but might save you time, as there's a lot of different versions of these programs flying around. Only the one below works on WM6 / HTC Touch.
I personally find that the Menu Bars at the bottom of the Today Screen really spoil the look of the HTC Touch's sleek black/grey theme. Besides, the Comm Manager and Contacts are both accessible via the spinning cube (or the camera button if you install Double Launcher) so there's no need to have on the Today Screen, you may as well get more space for plugins, or just to keep everything looking neat and tidy. See screenshot below!
Here's how to banish them forever (?!) :
1. Download ToggleTodayIIAlpha from this link:
http://www.vijay555.com/vj/releases/vjtoggletodayii/vjtoggletodayiialpha.exe
2. Copy it to your \Windows\Startup directory. (or somewhere else and paste a shortcut instead)
3. Go into the registry and edit this key:
HKLM/Software/Vijay555/VJTodayToggle
Change these keys:
Softkeysize = 1
StartSize = 26
TrayVisible = 1
That's it! I've had no massive problems with this so far, although I haven't been testing it for too long. I'd be interested to hear how people get on in terms of stability/bugs. You WILL get problems if you try to use any of the older VJTodayToggle programs in the thread on this forum:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=243211
(SIP keyboard staying on, SIP moving to the top of the screen, menu titles disappearing but not the background, etc.)
...in fact, that's precisely why I'm sharing this info with you, as this thread is 39 pages long and it's only towards the end that things become totally clear! I'll post again if there's any unexpected side-effects, I'm currently minimising BatteryStatus and I don't know whether this will
Good luck!
Carlos
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A: If you want to make your screen even neater AND still overclock your Touch, then, in step 3 above, you can make TrayVisible=0 then you can minimise the BatteryStatus plugin and it won't show up on your today screen. (right click on batterystatus icon, choose 'show rows -> minimise') I haven't tested this properly yet.
B: If you want to explore hiding the Start Menu, feel free, it looks superb when you first do it, but then I have found that the HTC biotouch (spinning cube) automatically re-instates the start menu bar when it's deactivated each time.
C: Please note, this program ( tt2.exe) DOES NOT TOGGLE, even though it's called that! Again, it's a 39 page thread, I warned you...
D: You can also run TT2.exe with a -config option to avoid editing the registry, but this would actually make the above even more long-winded to explain to any n00bs.
E: A nice new HTC wallpaper is doing the rounds without the logo. (As you can see from my screenshot, it's mis-positioned with the extra screen space) See http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=319830
F: Vijay555 has been meaning to release a new (non-alpha) version of the software for some time, but sounds pretty busy. He seems like an all-round splendid guy though and I'd like to thank him for this software and his continued postings/programming.
I have the HTC X7500 WM6 and I've been desperate to make it works.
I've been trying other version from the 40 pages thread, so I'll try this one and I will post result.
BigDede said:
I have the HTC X7500 WM6 and I've been desperate to make it works.
I've been trying other version from the 40 pages thread, so I'll try this one and I will post result.
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Good luck! The honest truth is that after I'd posted this, I discovered a couple of bugs that appeared in soak testing. I gave up in the end - it worked 90% but I would still occasionally get conflict, e.g. the SIP keyboard would appear at the top of the screen sometimes and only a soft reset would put it back where it was meant to be!
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Good luck! The honest truth is that after I'd posted this, I discovered a couple of bugs that appeared in soak testing. I gave up in the end - it worked 90% but I would still occasionally get conflict, e.g. the SIP keyboard would appear at the top of the screen sometimes and only a soft reset would put it back where it was meant to be!
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Yep I confirm that, SIP keyboard is there, and sometimes as well softkeys stay there after softreset.
Well actually for me it's even worse, it's hiding the system tray (the bar just above the softkeys bar) where we can add shortcuts icons and keep the softkeys bar enabled..
Im disappointed but thks for vijay555 for all the efforts
Perfect... without HTC Logo is even better...
Thanks Carlos,
I've just installed and its working fine. With the clean background from http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=319830 looks even better.
Cheers,
Marcelo
BigDede said:
Yep I confirm that, SIP keyboard is there, and sometimes as well softkeys stay there after softreset.
Well actually for me it's even worse, it's hiding the system tray
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See my original post, have you tried setting TrayVisible=1 in the registry, this should show the system tray.
I followed exactly what u posted, it displayed it correctly the first time, then after soft reset it was displaying only the softkeys bar and hiding the system tray bar
Thks anyway
How does this look on screens BESIDES the today screen? I have used other programs on different WM phones in the past and although the bottom bar disappears on the today screen, it is still on other screens.
Also, can you use the bottom of the screen or is it just dead space? Some of us have moved the HTC Home Plug to the bottom of the page and if it is just dead space, it is going to look bad....
maevro said:
How does this look on screens BESIDES the today screen? I have used other programs on different WM phones in the past and although the bottom bar disappears on the today screen, it is still on other screens. Also, can you use the bottom of the screen or is it just dead space? Some of us have moved the HTC Home Plug to the bottom of the page and if it is just dead space, it is going to look bad....
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The menu bar is visible on other screens, this behaviour is by design. I cannot see why anybody would want it invisible on other screens, as you normally need those softkeys for menus in most programs!
As far as I know you can use the bottom of the screen, it is not dead space. But why not try it out - it's unlikely to do any harm. You can always delete it from your startup directory to uninstall if you don't want it.
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Well it works well so far.....(Not my screen, Neo's screen @ HoFo)
I can't remember if the TrayVisible setting even works - I think it was something I was intending to build in, but never got around to it.
Apologies... I'm kinda programming again, had lots going on, so never finished the app. Sorry for you guys having to use my unfinished piece of cr*p. I'll make it work properly one day!
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vijay555 said:
I can't remember if the TrayVisible setting even works - I think it was something I was intending to build in, but never got around to it.
Apologies... I'm kinda programming again, had lots going on, so never finished the app. Sorry for you guys having to use my unfinished piece of cr*p. I'll make it work properly one day!
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Thks a lot vijay555
HELP!!!
I installed this, but I don't know how to get into the registry from an .exe file, so I just tried to open the file through my phone, and instead it has hidden my start bar, as well as the bottom bar. How do I reverse this???
maevro said:
Well it works well so far.....(Not my screen, Neo's screen @ HoFo)
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How did you "move" the HTC Home plugin to the bottom part of the Today-screen without any plugin above it? I searched all over the forums, but I cannot find the answer to this question
--Marc
soulstar said:
HELP!!!
I installed this, but I don't know how to get into the registry from an .exe file, so I just tried to open the file through my phone, and instead it has hidden my start bar, as well as the bottom bar. How do I reverse this???
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Just soft reset your phone.
marc2503 said:
How did you "move" the HTC Home plugin to the bottom part of the Today-screen without any plugin above it? I searched all over the forums, but I cannot find the answer to this question
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Use the HTC Home customizer to "unlock" it. Then you can move it around like normal.
However, it doesn't redraw correctly on the right side if you unlock it, and a scrollbar comes and goes.
i have a other solution!! PCM shrink installe it and your bar remove it s very easier! For become to the original config juste delete the programmz!!
won't stick
Hi..very nice and easy Zip File..just one problem: the toggle won't stick after a soft reset = one has to go into File Explorer..double click the Toggle File and only than the screen is "clean" again.
Any way to make the toggle "stick"?
I have not this problem! I install the cab i going on the explorer and today shrink and clik on after i reboot my pda ans the bar not appear ... You can try put a abbreviated of today skrink in WINdows/started for star the application automatic on windows sartup
the result of the appl:
I have this running at startup on my Tilt, works with screen rotations and everything! And the hard keys are still mapped to calendar and contacts for quick access, awesome.
Many thanks, couldn't stand those useless soft keys before.
- Charles
Hey folks-
I tried posting this in the S2U2 0.99 thread but there are countless pages and I figure it was like dropping a needle in a haystack. Any smartphone users out there have any experience using S2U2 on it?
My wife's Moto Q will run it, and it will function properly, except it almost appears as if the UI is set to portrait and the background set to landscape. The landscape wallpaper is chosen, but nudged down and left so it leaves equally sized black bars on the top and right side of the screen. The rest of the UI elements look set to portrait, as they are horizontally short (guessing 240 but I don't know for certain) and the slide bar is scrolled off the bottom of the screen. The clock/curtain and the carrier info bar are properly aligned to the top left corner of the screen, but as I said they appear to be portrait as they end at approx 240px.
Does anyone out there use the latest S2U2 with a smartphone (or, better, the Moto Q specifically) and has experienced/resolved similar problems? TIA
Edit: I tried this with and without ddraw and safemode on, and I get the same results every time.
I don´t know. Sorry
i think he is using the dpad function of unlocking s2u2. i think your gonna end up with issues with the looks though. just wasnt meant for a smartphone squarish screen.
Wow, everywhere I post this someone without knowledge of S2U2's capabilities tells me smartphones don't have touchscreens. Thanks for the news flash
Yes, ajk511 is right, mostly. The Q has a 320x240 screen, not square, but even if it did, the S2U2 notes say it supports square screens and smartphones. I'm looking for input from anyone who's used S2U2 with a Q or similar device and experienced or resolved this problem.
I can't tell what S2U2 will do on a Q, but it works perfectly on a Smartphone emulator, except the CallerID part. Could you provide a screenshot of what you've done? I guess you may have to prepare a separate set of wallpapers for your Q as QVGA device needs a 240x320 portrait wallpaper while your Q is 320x240.
Can't speak for the Q, but on my wife's HTC Excalibur it works flawless. I did however make a custom 320 wide by 240 high wallpaper that is running in portrait(!) mode as far as I remember. Slider is visible and working fine with the DPAD.
I can confirm that s2u2 works without problems on my Samsung i600, after I had set NoPowerSuspend to 1 (before that if my phone screeen has been turned off, it stayed off and I can unlock device only after pluging headset wire into the slot), and CallerID to 0.
Now I have one question: how can I set s2u2 to lock keypad on homescreen only?
Sorry for my English
This work in a Smartphone HTC S620?
I had a problem with my samsung i320 (landscape 320x240). S2U2 and settings start in the wrong orientation. unlock is working with DPAD, but it's impossible to use settings
Thanks for your answers
Treo 500v has the same problem.
I started with 1.01 and then 1.05, 1.22b, 1.30 and 1.32.
Always the same problem
BoZ
I guess S2U should have its own help forum. Anyways The problem I am having is that when I turn the back light off and turn it back on S2U pops up just fine but I also get an error notification "Cannot execute \Storage Card\Program Files\XMT_OnPowerOn.exe" Does anyone know if this is a S2U problem or something else?
Running on Q9
I've been running s2u2 on a Motorola Q9c for about 3 weeks now with minimal problems. I love it! I'm just trying to learn my way around some of the power management options, and figure out how to change the size/date of the date. So far so good though, I'm very impressed.
Hi, which s2u2 version are u using?
thanks
newest version works fine on HTC Ozone. Trick is you need to use mydialer to change config, its eazier that way.
I actually used S2U2 with a Pantech Matrix Pro and it worked fine. The only problem is when the screen dims, then goes to the lockscreen, then the screen shuts off, the phone shuts down immediately! Also I could not figure out how to access the settings because it was meant for a PPC. Any ideas?
Try to edit settings via registry values in HKCU\Software\A_C\S2U2
try adjusting your backlight settings, to time out longer.
UltraMagnus said:
Hey folks-
I tried posting this in the S2U2 0.99 thread but there are countless pages and I figure it was like dropping a needle in a haystack. Any smartphone users out there have any experience using S2U2 on it?
My wife's Moto Q will run it, and it will function properly, except it almost appears as if the UI is set to portrait and the background set to landscape. The landscape wallpaper is chosen, but nudged down and left so it leaves equally sized black bars on the top and right side of the screen. The rest of the UI elements look set to portrait, as they are horizontally short (guessing 240 but I don't know for certain) and the slide bar is scrolled off the bottom of the screen. The clock/curtain and the carrier info bar are properly aligned to the top left corner of the screen, but as I said they appear to be portrait as they end at approx 240px.
Does anyone out there use the latest S2U2 with a smartphone (or, better, the Moto Q specifically) and has experienced/resolved similar problems? TIA
Edit: I tried this with and without ddraw and safemode on, and I get the same results every time.
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It works just fine on my Q..on screen shows the battery charging....i'm using S2U2 v2.41..because it's difficult to editing the s2u2 setting ( b'cause Q is not touch screen.. ) so i use my mobiler apps to control it through PC...
Ray_jai said:
Hi, which s2u2 version are u using?
thanks
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Try this latest version 2.43 of S2U2, it really works fine on Windows Mobile Smartphone 320x240, specially for Motorola Q CDMA or Samsung GT-C6625 Valencia but settings mode cannot be access, so you should try to edit settings manually via registry values in HKCU\Software\A_C\S2U2 and goodluck...
Hey!
I've built a small today plugin that someone may find useful as well...
Well, since its my first Today plugin, its not perfect... However...
Anyway, it requires a hardware keyboard to be useful.
The attached ZIP archive contains both the CAB and user's manual.
t9 works, gstupidinput works. have not tested button assigned sips..
nice!
świetny plug, respekt, jak zawsze.
mała idea: drugie pole z miejscem na wpis rozszerzenia(czy inna forma filtra typu plików..) - perfekcyjna metoda na dojscie do skrótów, na przykład.
(cudem byłaby możliwość menu na tap'n'holdzie z paroma pierdołami, jak np. stwórz skrót w menu start, czy usuń..).
tak się rozmarzyłem..hm.
Dude, this rocks! I've been wanting someone to develop something like Launchy (http://www.launchy.net/) for Windows Mobile, this is a really nice first step.
I'm guessing it would be much more difficult to have the application also search and suggest documents, files, bookmarked web pages, and settings screens based on the text entry right?
What about making this a stand alone app that could be triggered without navigating to the today screen? For example, if I could launch this app by mapping it to a hardware button and then begin typing to launch any app, setting, document, web page, etc on my device it would be pretty awesome.
I like the looks of this. Can't wait to try it out.
Yay, its good that someone likes it
Yes, I've been thinking about converting it to a stand-alone app.
Yes, I've been thinking about adding support for documents, bookmarks, etc.
Maybe in next release (actually I will have to rebuild it almost completely )...
Thank you for feedback, anyway
This app sounds totally awesome, will the next rev have touchscreen support??? Very interested.
fantastic app!
thank you!
It HAS a touchscreen supported, but since:
1) using SIP (software input panel) is not too effective
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2) there is no SIP button on the Today screen
hardware keyboard is required.
"2) there is no SIP button on the Today screen
hardware keyboard is required."
look at this:
http://dalelane.co.uk/blog/?p=287&cpage=1
"# SIP support
This was asked for a lot. The Today screen doesn’t include the button to show/hide the on-screen stylus/finger keyboard. So if your mobile doesn’t have a keyboard, TwitToday wasn’t much use.
I’ve added a setting now that lets you programmatically show the SIP keyboard when you tap on the text box. "
galt said:
Dude, this rocks! I've been wanting someone to develop something like Launchy (http://www.launchy.net/) for Windows Mobile, this is a really nice first step.
I'm guessing it would be much more difficult to have the application also search and suggest documents, files, bookmarked web pages, and settings screens based on the text entry right?
What about making this a stand alone app that could be triggered without navigating to the today screen? For example, if I could launch this app by mapping it to a hardware button and then begin typing to launch any app, setting, document, web page, etc on my device it would be pretty awesome.
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Yeah, Launchy is awesome. This app could be quite similar to what the Pre does when you start typing ...
I can't wait for SIP support.
That's really great I was wondering why no one developed Launchy for PPC. Afterall, it's one of the best launchers out there
Unfortunately I have Manilla on my today.
_TB_TB_, you should definately develop it into a stand alone app
Thanks man! Great plugin for my Universal
Well, this is absolutely awesome! It somehow reminds me a bit of the search function in the vista start menu (one of the things I actually like about vista). It just speeds up starting apps
I've put it through some test yesterday and today and have found a few bugs:
1. The biggest problem I found is that it will crash if the screen is rotated or the resolution is changed. This is a potential showstopper for a lot of phones (all those phones where the hardware keyboard slides out to the side and the screen is rotated for input - like on my wing). What happens is that the plugin will not be painted any more after the screen is rotated and clicking on it just leads to an error sound. What is scary is that if you soft reset the phone after the plugin crashes, sometimes it won't restart correctly (that is the whole screen will look completely garbled) and will need a second reset.
2. It slightly changed the order of the today plugins on my today screen and for some reason I can't bring them back to the right order anymore now. When I try to change that now, the today screen will shortly hide some items, then an error sound is played and the order is reset to the wrong one.
3. The font size of the plugin is different to the standard font size of the other today plugins (in my case, the font size is 11px and I believe that's the standard size). I believe there should be a registry setting somewhere where you can read out the right size.
4. It will only find what's in the "Programs" folder and subfolders but it won't find all the shortcuts that are right in the start menu or in folders in the start menu. For example, I have put the Office Mobile folder right into the start menu and therefore can't launch the Office apps through this plugin.
merged with the post above