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Moving From Program To Storage

hI,
IS THERE A POSSIBLE SOLUTION TO MOVE MBs FROM PROGRAMS TO STORAGE?

what do u mean? do you want to move your installed applications in the phone to memory card? nope! it will corrupt i think, you have to uninstall it then re install it. however, some programs which are related to the system (like helmi dialer) will be automatically installed to phone memory....

and if you mean mem as the old 2003 slider for deviding mem between app and storage then no
that vent away when ms made wm5
maybe progs like DOC or flashdisk can merge extended rom with storage if you need more storage

I mean the possibility, having 60 mb for programs and only 3 mb ffor storage, to move for example 10 mb from the first too the last: the situation will become: programs 50mb storage 13 mb.

from where you get 3 mb of storage and aditional 60 mb for programs, in blueangel we have 60 mb storage and 128 mb ram (so called program memory), or maybe you do not have Blueangel device
Please tell us your device and rom version, and you will get advice

anyway storage is flash and as such have a limited nr of write it can take before it dies
if it was used as application ram it would die very! fast
also why is it ppl want so much application ram?
programs take as much ram as they require the fact that there is plenty left dont make them faster at all
free app ram is just empty doing nothing

also BA has 128 MB ram more than most pocketpc's on the market why you need more ?

the problems is i have installed some applications that must be installed on the device; after these operations i stay with the following indications:
storage 3.68 mb (remaining);
programs 60 mb (remaining).
I'll ry 2 applications i found that could zip and unzip automatically all the files (and applications) resident on the device.
I'LL LET YOU KNOW IF I SOLVED THE PROBLEM

success!!!!
SUCCESS!!!
I HAVE USED : POCKET MECHANIC PRO AND MEMMAID.
tHE RESULT AS FOLLOW:
STORAGE USED DECREASED FROM 98% TO 68% WITHOUT UNISTALLING NOTHINGS.an OTHER USEFULL APPLICATION I FOUND WAS swelldisk.
With this one i succeded to increase as follow:
extended rom from 16 mb to 32 mb;
sd card from 2 gb to 4 gb

Swelldisk isn't the best option AFAIK. Try to find in the forum, that was discussed, and few people lost their data from the SD.

laura_kim said:
SUCCESS!!!
I HAVE USED : POCKET MECHANIC PRO AND MEMMAID.
tHE RESULT AS FOLLOW:
STORAGE USED DECREASED FROM 98% TO 68% WITHOUT UNISTALLING NOTHINGS.an OTHER USEFULL APPLICATION I FOUND WAS swelldisk.
With this one i succeded to increase as follow:
extended rom from 16 mb to 32 mb;
sd card from 2 gb to 4 gb
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Sounds interesting. Can you explain how you did it.

THEY HAVE MANY TOOLS BUT THE MOST IMPORTANT ONE IS IN POCKET MECHANICH AND IS CALLED "STORAGE"; IN FEW WORDS YOU CAN CHOOSE A FOLDER/APPLICATION ON THE MAIN STORAGE AND DECIDE TO MOVE TO A SD CARD.
any reference to this original forlder (also registry keys) change their behaviour/pointing action to the new "location"

laura_kim said:
SUCCESS!!!
I HAVE USED : POCKET MECHANIC PRO AND MEMMAID.
tHE RESULT AS FOLLOW:
STORAGE USED DECREASED FROM 98% TO 68% WITHOUT UNISTALLING NOTHINGS.an OTHER USEFULL APPLICATION I FOUND WAS swelldisk.
With this one i succeded to increase as follow:
extended rom from 16 mb to 32 mb;
sd card from 2 gb to 4 gb
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hello
I have the same prob
I have downloaded the progs you used
I don't know how to increase Storaqge mem. like you did...
Please could you tell me the procedures you followed to do that ?
Cheers

"I don't know how to increase Storaqge mem. like you did...", you can't. You can only reduce usage by careful planning...Install programs to storage card, configure IE cache and temp files to storage card..... Swelldisk only work on external storage.

move the cache and all the avaiable dll to storae card: it works

I found a safe way to achieve the above:
1. Create a folder Sotage Card\ Windows
2. Include this folder name in "path"
3. Freely move any DLLs into this folder from \Windows to Storage Card\Windows
I used SKTools for achieving this. I am not sure which DLLs may be required in original \Windows folder during reflashing ROM, though I had absolutely no problem in reflashing with all DLLs moved, but better to move back system related DLLs back to original path before reflashing.

laura_kim said:
move the cache and all the avaiable dll to storae card: it works
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Cache will be recreated if you move the contents to another location, so you dont achieve any thing, rather waste space on storage card. If you really want to do this, change the registry settings too.
Moving DLLs to another location without declaring location name in "path" is incorrect way.

i tried but i dont know how to Include the folder name in "path"

Nishann said:
i tried but i dont know how to Include the folder name in "path"
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Use SKTools free demo version

Problem with Device Memory (Lack Of) on HD2

I have a very puzzling problem. When I first got the HD2 I installed a few cabs directly to the device. Due to this the device memory very rapidly became used up, which resulted in me having to delete some stuff and re-install to the 2GB SD card. Following this, I think I had about 25mb of free Device Storage on the phone. I now only install cabs etc direct to SD card, today I have roughly 1.4GB of free space on the card.
Imagine my dismay, therefore, when today, having installed 4 or 5 cabs, one being somewhere in the region of 44mb, I'm now completely out of device memory, even though I've installed directly to SD card. My device memory is now showing 0.00mb and I'm constantly getting the annoying 'low storage space' messages.
Any help would be much appreciated.

edit: The 44 mb cab I mentioned has not been installed to phone as apparently it won't let me due to lack of device memory, even tho I'm trying to install to SD card???

Also, when I go into Remove Program setting, all the cabs etc which I've installed from day 1 are listed there, no mystery there! Thing I don't understand is that they are all listed as being installed to phone internal memory. Even though when installed I specifically selected Storage Card and NOT device memory.
What's going on??

Anyone got any info on this please?

Does the SD Card have a program files directory, and are your apps there?

I'd very much like to point the OP to the EDIT button at the bottom of your posts... use that instead of spamming your own thread
Anyway, keep in mind some things:
- some devices come with a lot of useless stuff preinstalled, that steals precious internal memory free space
- some cabs may decide to copy their files over to internal memory even if you choose to install to SD card, depending on how they have been set during creation
- you can have a larger free space by flashing a "clean" custom rom, with base WM, manila, and nothing else, and easily add only the apps you really need (the rom I use in signature is one of those, unless you are on a 1024LEO in which case it would brick your phone)
- unless you install heavy apps (44mb is usually for bigdictionaries, encyclopedias, or images collections, in which case SD is the way to go) most apps SHOULD be installed in internal memory for various reasons

Bravoexo said:
Does the SD Card have a program files directory, and are your apps there?
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Thx for reply.
Yes, and the files which I installed today, and now deleted, were in the program files on the SD Card, but it still impacted on device memory. I've now deleted the files I put on today but device memory is only indicating just over 3mb available. Prior to today I'm sure I had about 25mb free. Don't understand it??

ephestione said:
I'd very much like to point the OP to the EDIT button at the bottom of your posts... use that instead of spamming your own thread
Anyway, keep in mind some things:
- some devices come with a lot of useless stuff preinstalled, that steals precious internal memory free space
- some cabs may decide to copy their files over to internal memory even if you choose to install to SD card, depending on how they have been set during creation
- you can have a larger free space by flashing a "clean" custom rom, with base WM, manila, and nothing else, and easily add only the apps you really need (the rom I use in signature is one of those, unless you are on a 1024LEO in which case it would brick your phone)
- unless you install heavy apps (44mb is usually for bigdictionaries, encyclopedias, or images collections, in which case SD is the way to go) most apps SHOULD be installed in internal memory for various reasons
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Thx for the above tip re: edit button. I didn't know you could use it to add to your own thread. I do now so won't be making that mistake again.
I take on board what you say and thx for your various points.
I just think that if you have an SD card, why not use it instead of cramming up the precious internal memory? Prior to today I had approx. 25mb free internal space. This went to zero internal space after I installed a few apps. I inadvertently installed one of the apps on to internal memory instead of SD card, so this would have obviously had an impact. The 44mb cab was the Ferrari GT game I came across today. In any case I've now deleted everything I installed today. But I now only have just above 3mb of free internal space even tho I've soft resetted a few times as well. This is what I don't understand?

RoN_HD2 said:
Thx for the above tip re: edit button. I didn't know you could use it to add to your own thread. I do now so won't be making that mistake again.
I take on board what you say and thx for your various points.
I just think that if you have an SD card, why not use it instead of cramming up the precious internal memory? Prior to today I had approx. 25mb free internal space. This went to zero internal space after I installed a few apps. I inadvertently installed one of the apps on to internal memory instead of SD card, so this would have obviously had an impact. The 44mb cab was the Ferrari GT game I came across today. In any case I've now deleted everything I installed today. But I now only have just above 3mb of free internal space even tho I've soft resetted a few times as well. This is what I don't understand?
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My current rom leaves 250+MB free after flash, just to give you an idea.
Internal memory is way faster than the microsd, that's why you want to install apps there unless they are huge. Anyway, since games are not usually ment to stay on the device forever, but more like until you finish them to uninstall, you could give them a go in the internal memory as well.
If you still have space taken after uninstalling, download and install totalcommander (to internal memory obviously ) and check under \Program Files\ to see if there are folders of old uninstalled programs still in memory. If there are any, delete them.
If your stock rom is a bloated one from your carrier, take into consideration the idea of flashing a clean custom rom, if you have the means to reflash the original rom back on in case you ever need warranty servicing

ephestione said:
My current rom leaves 250+MB free after flash, just to give you an idea.
Internal memory is way faster than the microsd, that's why you want to install apps there unless they are huge. Anyway, since games are not usually ment to stay on the device forever, but more like until you finish them to uninstall, you could give them a go in the internal memory as well.
If you still have space taken after uninstalling, download and install totalcommander (to internal memory obviously ) and check under \Program Files\ to see if there are folders of old uninstalled programs still in memory. If there are any, delete them.
If your stock rom is a bloated one from your carrier, take into consideration the idea of flashing a clean custom rom, if you have the means to reflash the original rom back on in case you ever need warranty servicing
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I'm on the stock UK o2 ROM 1.43 which is garbage. Still waiting for o2 to release an update My phone prior to this was the Samsung i900 Omnia which, once upon a time, I attempted to flash with the help and advice of some MoDaCo forum users. Basically I screwed up and had to send the phone to a Samsung Repair Centre. My point is I'm not totally clued up re: flashing/updating ROMs etc. However, I do realise at some point I'm gonna need to get my head screwed on and give it another try. If only to keep the phone up to date etc.

How to delete ROM files in Windows folder

Hi.
I have searched for this issue, but haven't been able to find any answer to it.
I am running low on space on the phones main storage, and I discovered that there are several albums sample pictures which takes up a lot of space and I don't use CoPilot and the exe file takes up about 6MB. I tried to delete them but couldn't.
I have done step 67 in hints, tips and tweaks thread, and I install most of my apps on the storage card, but I am still running low on space.
So my question is: is it possible to delete some of the albums sample and CoPilot.exe?
Thanks

Copilot.exe is burned in the ROM, so the answer is no.
But I don't think that is the problem, as well as the sample pictures.
Try this instead:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?p=6231410#post6231410

CRO_Misho said:
Copilot.exe is burned in the ROM, so the answer is no.
But I don't think that is the problem, as well as the sample pictures.
Try this instead:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?p=6231410#post6231410
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Thanks for the help but, that thread didn't help me.
I don't get any error when I try to install an app. I just noticed that I don't have much space left on the phone's memory.
It seems that although I install most of my apps on the storage card, some files are still copied to the phones memory. And trying to cleanup the space on the phones memory I noticed some files that I don't use (e.g. CoPilot.exe and all the Albums sample images, total about 17 MB!). I just cannot delete them, since they are part of the ROM. So I was just wondering if someone had succeeded in deleting them. Has anyone succeeded in deleting those files?
By the way, I have done steps 65 and 67 in the tips & tweaks thread.

try cleaning your internet browser history

there's no point deleting files in rom because they are not consuming ram anyway... because they are in rom! So even if you could delete them, it wouldn't help.
deleting the googlemaps cache and the htc album cache will free up device ram.
you can also move your opera cache files to the storage card. If you use the MS facebook app, the thumbnail images located in \Temp\fbimagecache can also be moved to the storage card and i'm pretty sure the HTC generated facebook thumbs can be moved there as well. But you'll need to delve into the registry to do it
The \windows\rings folder can also be moved to storage card

dexterslab said:
there's no point deleting files in rom because they are not consuming ram anyway... because they are in rom! So even if you could delete them, it wouldn't help.
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that's not relevant, he's looking to free more space from the internal storage memory, not the ram...
And alas, you cannot remove files that are in the rom... that's why you'd be better off finding a custom rom suited to your needs without all the apps that you don't really need.
Best I've seen is ~250MB free after flash with sense, or about 30MB more without sense

ephestione said:
that's not relevant, he's looking to free more space from the internal storage memory, not the ram...
And alas, you cannot remove files that are in the rom... that's why you'd be better off finding a custom rom suited to your needs without all the apps that you don't really need.
Best I've seen is ~250MB free after flash with sense, or about 30MB more without sense
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Yes, exactly.
Anyway, thanks for the help. I'll take a look at the custom ROMs.

Its a HTC Touch but for this simple Question don't want to open a new Thread in the Touch Forum:
My Girlfriends HTC Touch P3450 (with this 6.5.3 ROM http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=636589) is running out of space.
(even with Original 6.1 ROM the little Space was a big Problem)
All Apps but Windows Marketplace and My Phone are installed on Micro SD.
Office Mobile 2010 needs less Space than the "old" Office Mobile so i upgradet
Ist there a Way to delete the sample Pictures, Sounds/Ringtones and other (unused) Files?
No success with Windows 7 or RESCO File Explorer.
I remember that it was possible with original Windows Mobile 6.1 ROM on P3450 and T7272 but with 6.5.3 it isn't.
Thanks
(and sorry for my poor english)

Memory problems on HTC HD2

I bought the Telstra version of HTC HD2 and flashed the ROM to version 1.66 with Arabic support. What I have started noticing is that after installing several programs, my storage memory started running very low (now down to anywhere between 3-6MB while my free program memory is >160MB) even though I have setup my Windows Marketplace to install programs on the storage card, temp and cache files are as well as Email attachments are stored on the SD card and actually more than 80% of my program are installed on the SD card but I believe even when you tell a program to install on the SD card, portion of it has to install in the main memory.
My question is what to do about this situation (BTW, I have tried apps that clear the RAM and they work temporarily and, obviously, as I use my device the memory goes down and then I have to re-run that program to clear the RAM again). Is there a way to change the memory allocation between storage and program RAM like we used to do in Windows CE?
Please advise?

sktools helped me free up 50mbs

TheSkilled1 said:
sktools helped me free up 50mbs
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Thanks a lot TheSkilled for this great advice. This program works great.

work through this one:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=583638
saved my usefulness of my HD2

[Q] HTC-HD2 Low disk space warning - error

Hi,
I keep getting the low disk space notification. I was having 16 mb free space and wanted to download a racing game from Market which is 20 mb. I uninstalled some apps and made 20.5 mb free space. I downloaded the game finally. My idea was to move it to sd card after installation and still have 20 mb of free space. when the installation started, it gave the low free space error again and restarted. After restart , I checked the game was not installed. No shortcut in the apps list. But the 20 mb of space is gone only 150kb of free space is left and the phone start to work slower. I checked with Astro but haven't been able to pin down it's location. I want to find the files and delete them to gain free space. Can anyone help me about this situation. And why I have so less space even I did not install apps. I am using Android 2.2.1 / DL DesireZ v3.4 final

when you downloaded it, the install file used up the last 20 meg, so there is no room for it to install when you run it.
cache folders, temp folders, incoming bluletooth folders, opera cache, opera download,look them up, empty them, check your installed program list, there are bound to be some things installed you dont actually use, get rid of them.

Thank you very much for the info. You are right , I found the installation file in the Cache folder , 20 mb and delete everything in the folder. Now I have 29.55 mb of free space. I installed App 2 SD from market to install the apps directly to sd.

Why don't you just partition your SD Card and use A2SD or DATA2SD?
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I did not know. ı am very new to Android. Has been just a week. Before I used Blackberry and Windows 7. I think Android is better.

i have a problem like that , the thing is that my apps need to update so i did it but now there are like 5 apps that in the market says installing but they're already installed and actually i can use them with no problem and also i have the low space warning but i have like 16mb free...a little help please!?
thx