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I am working on map/gps/navigation app using J2ME. I would like to make this app so great that it would replace Google Maps in daily usage for me. The main problem is graphic performance on Windows Mobile with WVGA screen. It is a university project and at this moment I cannot switch from Java to anything else. What I can do is reuse the code to make several versions for different runtime environments.
I have been searching for an working environment that would be able to run Java code using hardware acceleration on Windows Mobile. So far I have found only two solutions: MySaifu that supports Java3D and J9 that has JNI and theoretically could run OpenGL. I failed to find any J2ME virtual machine supporting hardware accelerated M3G (JSR-184) or OpenGL binding (JSR-239) that runs on WM.
MySaifu is incredibly unstable and I could not make it run any of 3d samples on HTC blackstone. J9 seems to lack an OpenGL wrapper at the moment. I think it would be relatively feasible to make a wrapper, esspecially using existing code from LWJGL or JOGL. I know that JBlend supports M3G but it does it software wise and performance is too low.
I would like to ask the XDA community: do you know any Java VM that supports hardware acceleration on Windows Mobile? Is there another way to approach my problem?
Thanks in advance,
dwaradzyn
Hello im new to android i have a advent vega but will love it to have some sort of windows on it if anyone has any ideas or if this is possible please post thanks
Apparently the next version of Windows will be able to run on ARM processors such as the Tegra 2 in the Vega. I doubt it'll end up on the Vega, though someone might port it over.
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If we do get windows on vega, would be able to install windows software such as skype,msn etc i probaly guess so but please correct if im wrong
I would be very surprised if windows will ever come to our vegas. Memory i would say is the main issue, xp would be the only one able to run with 512mb of ram, and that has poor touch screen support. I am running windows 7 with 1gb of ram (min system req) on my laptop, and it runs very slow. As far as i am aware even the netbook version needs 1gb. Be happy with android.
I wasn't really talking about windows 7 (although i would like that) but windows CE or windows mobile.
PS . As I said I only want it for the software.
yioti said:
I wasn't really talking about windows 7 (although i would like that) but windows CE or windows mobile.
PS . As I said I only want it for the software.
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Won't ever happen, windosws mobile is all closed source. Android is much better anyway, just get used to it
Agreed, winmob on the vega prob wont occour.
I too, miss some great apps and games which doubtfully will ever appear on andriod. The android gaming community, seems a little shallower than the wince lot.
I stll keep my htc touch and diamnd 2 specifically because of this.
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i think if we can get android 3.0 (or whatever the numbers will be) on our vega's, its more then enough to have enough fun with it, an operating system that does not thing its a smartphone and optimized for tablets. i used many android smartphones before, but using even 2.2 on vega is more fun then any smartphone i think, at least you can read web sites and not harm your eyes
PS : i have a joojoo tablet too, which runs win7 and i think android is better and faster on a tablet like vega ( tegra2 tabets).
Some of the cheap import tablets like the Zenithink ZT-180 have roms for WinCE - but from what I have read nobody really uses them since even WinCE is pretty poor as a tablet OS (well, that and the ZT-180 is pretty rubbish!).
as a student you can get the windows embedded 7 development kit for free, that should be able to run on the advent vega but my knowledge isnt yet sufficient to build and deploy a rom in order t test it
I honestly don't understand this kind of question:
You have Windows a system built for PCs and to be operated specific using keyboard and mouse.
And then you have Android a system built for mobile devices to be operated specific with a touch screen.
I guess the question is not IF it's possible, but WHY in a hell would anyone even bother porting it?
Do you miss msn and skype? I got news for you, just download Skype and eBuddy from the market. Solved!
Budius said:
I honestly don't understand this kind of question:
You have Windows a system built for PCs and to be operated specific using keyboard and mouse.
And then you have Android a system built for mobile devices to be operated specific with a touch screen.
I guess the question is not IF it's possible, but WHY in a hell would anyone even bother porting it?
Do you miss msn and skype? I got news for you, just download Skype and eBuddy from the market. Solved!
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What about office tools? i have yet to find a decent word processor that retains all (or most) of word's features.
sadly, while gdocs looks lovely, writing documents is still a pain..
Although I also wish that I could do some serious work on my tablet / smartphone, you simply can not do it (too small screen => primarily wasn't meant for this kind of job, but it's great in mobility and therefore "valuable information on the go").
Tablets & smartphones are used to consume / present information and PCs / workstations are used to generate that information.
I have also tried all kind of Office software (QuickOffice HD, Polaris Office, Docs To Go, GDocs,...), but reality is that generating information on Android is 30-50% slower than on a 20" monitor with keyboard & mouse hooked on a PC.
Yes, you could make a new office software on Android that would need a keyboard, mouse & external monitor, but that would defeat the purpose of mobility.
And sadly there is no such good software on Android with so many funtionalities that are found in Microsoft Office.
IMHO you can do up to 30 minutes of work without problems, for anything above that, please do yourself a favor and use a PC.
This something that may interest you. Only on ipad as of now, but I am sure will be on android soon.
Stokesy
Edit OK can't post a link... search windows thin client via on live.
Yes, I already heard of that tech.
It's something like remote desktop (but a bit better).
http://desktop.onlive.com/overview
Will see how this performs in real life when it's released for Android.
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This something that may interest you. Only on ipad as of now, but I am sure will be on android soon.
Stokesy
Edit OK can't post a link... search windows thin client via on live.
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And that time is NOW!
OnLive Desktop is now available on Android:
https://market.android.com/details?id=com.onlive.desktop
For free registration and more info, check my above post!
I would like to hear your thoughts on this software!
EDIT: It appears the download is US only.
Here is a link to APK file.
Hmmmm interesting I am downloading now
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Yani, its a good app, have you tried? I will use this all the time when I use my Vega during work. I find the windows apps quite poor on Android (I uses docs to go). This is great for reading and creating basic files. There are a few problems I have found so far.
1. The UI is not really designed for touch screen, I used with my docking station, keyboard and mouse but still was hard to click on the right part due to the alignment being off slightly on the mouse pointer.
2. Docs saved to the virtual desktop can be downloaded from a site called files.onlive.com. However when you try to access this site it says 'only available in USA'. So might be a nightmare to get off what you have created.
What do you think?
Stokesy
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stokesyblack said:
Yani, its a good app, have you tried? I will use this all the time when I use my Vega during work. I find the windows apps quite poor on Android (I uses docs to go). This is great for reading and creating basic files. There are a few problems I have found so far.
1. The UI is not really designed for touch screen, I used with my docking station, keyboard and mouse but still was hard to click on the right part due to the alignment being off slightly on the mouse pointer.
2. Docs saved to the virtual desktop can be downloaded from a site called files.onlive.com. However when you try to access this site it says 'only available in USA'. So might be a nightmare to get off what you have created.
What do you think?
Stokesy
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Sorry, but I haven't used this myself.
If you read my signature, I'm still on stock Froyo and this app needs at least Gingerbread.
I've read only good things about this.
I use QuickOffice for documents, but I only view documents, and these android office apps aren't even good at that!
But I've tried OnLive (for gaming) on SGS and it's amazing!!!!111one
Now to get some answers for your questions:
1. I think you need to restart your OnLive desktop in order to fully accept your mouse&keyboard input.
2. I went to https://desktop.onlive.com/account/myfiles and uploaded a doc file and then redownloaded it without a problem. I'm from Slovenia - EU and I've used Firefox on a PC with Ubuntu/Linux OS.
hi lats how to install im write my email address and nothing why sombody help mi?thanks
Would it be possible to control windows 8 on a non touch screen desktop pc or laptop with Kinect.
If someone makes the program, why not?
Of course you can, there just is'nt any (that I know of) software that's out that supports windows 8. I doubt Microsoft will ever impliment it into W8 natively, but I have no doubt that someone will impliment it themselves.
Google "Kinect minority report hack"
yes thare is. Try kinect hacks dot com!
you will need to install Prime Sence & Open NI or Open NI64 & probly some other niffty drivers for kinect finding the most resent versions of this software requires alot of digging at the moment and getting them working is not for the week harted you will need to fallow thare install notes & tutorials exactly!
you must have a kinect bought sepretly from a console that comes with an external power sorce and pc usb addapter!
works on windows 7 as well!
if you can post the software you find hear & your experiance's that would be good!
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yes thare is. Try kinect hacks dot com!
you will need to install Prime Sence & Open NI or Open NI64 & probly some other niffty drivers for kinect finding the most resent versions of this software requires alot of digging at the moment and getting them working is not for the week harted you will need to fallow thare install notes & tutorials exactly!
you must have a kinect bought sepretly from a console that comes with an external power sorce and pc usb addapter!
works on windows 7 as well!
if you can post the software you find hear & your experiance's that would be good!
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I have used that software before and I know a little about Kinect "Hacks".
But does this really support the Metro UI?
And is there any software that will allow you to use Kinect as a touchscreen (on Windows 7 or 8) that is built using the offical MS SDK?
hixsonkevin said:
I doubt Microsoft will ever impliment it into W8 natively, but I have no doubt that someone will impliment it themselves.
Google "Kinect minority report hack"
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I don't think so, Metro UI is an interface that can be successfully adapted to kinect, like new XBOX live dashboard.
Also I read something about it, but can't found where.
Edit: http://www.windows8news.com/2011/09/11/windows-8-expecting/
DuOS-M is commercial software developed by American Megatrends for Intel x86-based computers using the Microsoft Windows operating system to provide a "dual operating system" environment in which the user can simultaneously deploy the Android operating system in tandem with Microsoft Windows.
DuOS-M supports key hardware peripherals in Windows including cameras, audio, microphone and sensors such as ambient light sensor, accelerometer, gyrometer, compass and orientation sensors. It also supports various screen sizes, resolutions, and screen orientation (portrait and landscape) along with 3D acceleration and HD video playback.
The first version of DuOS-M was released in June 2014. The software is available for download for a free 30-day trial, and is available for purchase for a complete license (currently $9.99 US).
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Homepage: http://amiduos.com/
I'm surprised there's no discussion on this in xda developers, so I thought I'd start one.
Personal experiences :
I wanted to find an alternative to Andy and Genymotion which rely on VirtualBox since the VirtualBox's ndis filter drivers make my Windows 8.1 desktop regularly bluescreen. There's also Bluestacks but that always seemed to run poorly on even powerful computers.
DuOS-M is based on Android 4.2.2 (Jelly Bean). They've stated they have no slated support for KitKat since they don't see it as a significant upgrade, but are looking into Android-L support. It comes pre-installed with the Amazon Marketplace. It can run both native x86 android apps and ARM apps out of the box. After installation it takes you to a page that explains how to easily install the Google Play Store / Services:
Installing Google Play Store:
http://amiduos.com/nextsteps
If you scroll down on the above link it also has instructions how to root your installation, which is dead simple.
I really like how Google Play, ARM Support, and Root support are all baked into the process.
Unfortunately I was unable to run this on my Windows 8.1 Enterprise edition desktop since it's running the Hyper-V role which DuOS-M doesn't support (shows a warning on startup that virtualization isn't enabled and then hangs when you OK the warning). I could disable Hyper-V (via removing the role or adding a boot flag option with Hyper-V disabled) but I develop too often with Windows Phone 8 to do that right now.
I next tested it on my ASUS VivoBook 11.6" (1366x768) Touchscreen Laptop which has a Celeron 1007U Dual Core CPU and 4GB memory running Windows 8.1. It runs surprisingly well, better than Genymotion in most cases. It's not perfect, Word With Friends for instance has weird missing textures. But it has been able to run things I've never gotten to work in Genymotion or Bluestacks, such as video streaming in Qloud Media player. Since this is a touch screen laptop all gestures and touch controls seems to work great, in addition to the keyboard/mouse controls. I like how DuOS-M doesn't install a new virtual network card on the host machine and seems to support Internet access transparently.
They recently just released a 32-bit beta version which I'm eager to try on my Dell Venue 8 Pro 8" Windows tablet. At $9.99 I'll probably purchase a copy before my 30-days are up. I'm curious to hear other people's thoughts on DuOS-M. Hopefully with more users/feedback they can continue improving this great Android virtualization alternative.
I've recently purchased DuOS-M.
Compared with Bluestacks, DuOS is a Ferrari. I'm using it on a Lenovo Yoga and i'm very impressed.
My Lenovo has a mobile core i5 processor but this is no problem at all.
All apps and games are running without lag. I did see some glitches but nothing serious.
Overall i'm very pleased with DuOS-M.
It would be nice to see what happens if XDA modders and cookers shine a light on this one!
It's nice...
Really lightweight and fast to install...
Has some limitations like no resizable window, but great overall.
tfouto said:
It's nice...
Really lightweight and fast to install...
Has some limitations like no resizable window, but great overall.
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DuOS will not launch in Full screen when the System RAM is less than 3GB, even though full screen is set in Configuration tool or 0 is set in xml configuration file.
This is known issue and this will be fixed in future release.
Seems like the latest update has fixed the fullscreen issue! Runs quite well on my Asus T100.
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I've recently purchased DuOS-M.
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Does Titanium Backup work using DuosM?
LochNiss said:
Does Titanium Backup work using DuosM?
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Seemed to work fine, go ahead and try it for yourself, the trial version is fully functional for 30 days.
Did you have to buy it or is it to find it for free? thx for the anwser :
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Did you have to buy it or is it to find it for free? thx for the anwser :
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You can try the full version for 30 days.
After that its $9.99 USD.
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You can try the full version for 30 days.
After that its $9.99 USD.
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Does DuOS have a Lollipop image yet ?
Just wondering if anyone found a way around the syscheck (in particular, the 1GB ram). I'm running this on my Surface Pro and it blows Bluestacks out of the water. So I was thinking of running it on an HP Stream 7, a cheapo Windows tablet, but it only has 1GB ram. Getting a "Unfortunately you do not have enough memory to install DuOS-m." error.
DuOS vs Bluestack vs Genymotion vs Andyroid, which one better?
Isn't it VirtualBox also?
TalynOne said:
I wanted to find an alternative to Andy and Genymotion which rely on VirtualBox since the VirtualBox's ndis filter drivers make my Windows 8.1 desktop regularly bluescreen. There's also Bluestacks but that always seemed to run poorly on even powerful computers.
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Fun fact: This version uses a custom build of VirtualBox. If you dig around, you can find the VHD files and VM config.
Unfortunately, without some reverse engineering, you can't just mount the disks in a VBox VM and go, there's some local host-only networking going on that I'm assuming helps authenticate to the licensing server or something, because trying to launch it gets it stuck after initializing the network interfaces (probably waiting for UDP packets).
Since the virtual nics are in NAT mode, I'm assuming that's why your PC isn't bluescreening, since NAT networking doesn't actually hook your interfaces but is translated from within the VBox software.
I am curious as to how this will work if I install VirtualBox side-by-side.... (it's currently on a separate vanilla test machine).
DuOS is really great, i just installed it and fell in love with straight away. but Has any one tried windroye, it seems to perform well and also has a mobile companion... I'm using it in high end machine so cant really tell the difference. so anyone who tried can you share your opinion ?
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Is there any to install this on PC without Graphics Card ?
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Is there any to install this on PC without Graphics Card ?
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Do you mean using integrated graphics? If so, yes. Works perfectly with my built in graphics card on my laptop.
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I mean without graphics card!
For those who've run it on a 32-bit device (older laptop or maybe the Dell Venue Pro 8), any chance you guys can provide the msi installation file? I'd like to try this on an HP Stream 7 which only has 1GB ram.
Apparently AMI is/ will be announcing DuOS 5 at MWC, obviously hoping they have bumped it up to lollipop.
Does anyone has available the keyboard shortcuts list, for zooming and multitouch actions? I can't find it anymore on the official website
im just curious about that, i dont really any info.
its kinda possible install win 10 on switch and other Tegra X1 devices.
Hacker Installs Windows 10 on Nintendo's Switch Console
Nintendo Switch now supports Windows?
www.overclock3d.net
There is a thing called Windows phone, while it unpopular for now, who knows maybe it's time to shine is soon with this Windows 11 update. And Samsung idea of implementing AMD GPU into it's devices for the very first phone that supports ray tracing, it's very likely to be a catalyst to that as well.
The leaked version of Windows 11 is still in development, and it's still gonna have much more features, it also has a built-in android emulator that Microsoft works on.
Anything is possible on Linux if you have the knowledge, you probably shouldn't do that tho as it may prove to be security fatal to your data and also from the video you can see it's a bit sluggish which is yukky in my standards. Also for obvious reasons most android apps won't work on it.