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I have high detail Map picture . I open it pass through Albums and try to zoom in the picture. The zoom level is limited,I can't see the small detail in my MAP.
Please,Help that How do I change the Zoom level in the HD2 registry?
Please Help!!!!!!!
Up,Still wait for answer.
I want to know this too.
But, dont get your hopes high for an answer.
I never got one for the same question on Touch Pro and Touch Pro 2..
I believe the zoom will only go as far as 1:1 pixel
If this is true zooming futher would not yield any extra detail
Finally,I solve it by convert JPG to Pdf, It work fine on Adobe Reader LE.
rumpleforeskin said:
I believe the zoom will only go as far as 1:1 pixel
If this is true zooming futher would not yield any extra detail
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nope, it's far less that 1:1 in case of large images. Actually I think it's not even related to the image's resolution. It's fixed to 3-4x I guess.
Anyeone disappointed with the SGS2 camera? Its ok with normal photos, but then when you try zooming it, the photos look atrocious! its all grainy and no detail at all! is there a fix for this? I have disabled touchwiz and am using ADW...
I didnt seem to have this problem on my nexus one..
I dont see a point of using digital zoom in SGS2 or any other similar phone. It just cripples image quality, nothing else. Personaly I have never used it. And no. Im not dissapointed, Im quite impressed by the built in camera and its recording capabilities. If you wanted to zoom that much, you should have bought standalone camera with optical zoom. Phone is still phone you know.
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enzografix said:
I dont see a point of using digital zoom in SGS2 or any other similar phone. It just cripples image quality, nothing else. Personaly I have never used it. And no. Im not dissapointed, Im quite impressed by the built in camera and its recording capabilities. If you wanted to zoom that much, you should have bought standalone camera with optical zoom. Phone is still phone you know.
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I have a range of rather nice dslrs like 5d mk2 ect, and I am impressed no end by cam. Video good also, best ive seen on a phone. Digital zoom is pointless and rather a consumer point than a feature. All I want to do is be able to alter aperture, android don't support this afak
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yohanevindra said:
Anyeone disappointed with the SGS2 camera? Its ok with normal photos, but then when you try zooming it, the photos look atrocious! its all grainy and no detail at all! is there a fix for this? I have disabled touchwiz and am using ADW...
I didnt seem to have this problem on my nexus one..
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Optical zoom is the only good zoom. My tz10 has 12x optical and digital. Even if it had no optical you wouldn't switch digital zoom on as it just pixelates the image.
I'd be impressed if I was shown a camera that didn't ruin the picture with dz
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Like everyone else said, no point in using the zoom, it's worth nothing...
yohanevindra said:
Anyeone disappointed with the SGS2 camera? Its ok with normal photos, but then when you try zooming it, the photos look atrocious! its all grainy and no detail at all! is there a fix for this? I have disabled touchwiz and am using ADW...
I didnt seem to have this problem on my nexus one..
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I think up to 2x digital zoom, the photo quality is still usable. Note: more higher ISO value, you will get more grainy & less detail photo. The digital zoom may only apply for low ISO setting only
I think the picture quality of the SGS2 is extremely good for a smart phone, after 2 weeks of use.
It's better than many real cameras i know of, which I wont cite (as fanboi wars aren't all that interesting )
if you zoom zoom and zoom all cameras will show grain. the grain it shows is always different and the one of the sgs2 is actually pretty good. I know many professional photographs who actually zoom like that and if they can't zoom as far as their 12MP camera they say it's poorer quality. That's just poor judgement (specially when its their job...).
Of course the resolution of 8MP is lower than 12MP for example, but resolution != quality. Zooming for such pics is also utterly pointless, unless you plan to print a huge poster from your phone camera shots.. but even then, 8MP isn't all that bad.
For everything else, theres huge 2000E+ DSLRs.
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I think up to 2x digital zoom, the photo quality is still usable. Note: more higher ISO value, you will get more grainy & less detail photo. The digital zoom may only apply for low ISO setting only
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Usable = subjective, depends on use
as a contact pic maybe
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Ok guys, I have a "blind test" for you. Which one of this 2 photos, u like best.
Both camera settings were: P-mode, ISO100, Spot light metering, SuperFine quality, 0.0x optical zoom, no flash (in-door lighting), AWB.
Since I use P-mode, the Aperture and Shutter speed were automatically set by each camera.
PS: I will add more photos to this blind test, the left side will always be photos from *censored* and the right side will always be photos from *censored*
After the poll closed, I will tell you the "identity" of the left photos and the right photos.
If you want everyone to vote, you need to add an "I can't see any material difference" option to the poll .
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If you want everyone to vote, you need to add an "I can't see any material difference" option to the poll .
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LOL.. forget about that "option"... but i can't edit the poll... is there a way to edit the voting poll?
In my opinion, the one on the right is a bit grainier, and both of them are a little soft on focus. Would really prefer to see both cameras at the same distances (ideally one with no zoom and one with) shooting at a standard target. DPreview has a good example for the PowerShot, but neither they nor their "Connect" site has a Galaxy Camera review.
after zooming in it seems the one on the left is a bit sharper.
and you left the exif data in, so it's still possible to tell which is which if you download the pictures.
I voted before checking which was made with which camera.
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In my opinion, the one on the right is a bit grainier, and both of them are a little soft on focus. Would really prefer to see both cameras at the same distances (ideally one with no zoom and one with) shooting at a standard target. DPreview has a good example for the PowerShot, but neither they nor their "Connect" site has a Galaxy Camera review.
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About the zoom feature, SGC anti-shake is really bad. I shot an object with maximum optical zoom (21x) using a tripod, and still couldn't get a clear shot. The problem is, when we hit the shutter button, our finger pressure on the shutter button will make the camera move albeit really little (almost unnoticeable). The anti-shake should compensate for this, but it doesn't.
With the Canon camera and a tripod, I can get a clear shot easily using max optical zoom 20x which means the anti-shake does the job well.
My personal solution for this is, I use 2 seconds timer. After I hit the shutter button, I immediately lift my hands of the camera (it is on the tripod) so the camera has enough time to get back into "steady position" and I can get a clear shot.
thedicemaster said:
after zooming in it seems the one on the left is a bit sharper.
and you left the exif data in, so it's still possible to tell which is which if you download the pictures.
I voted before checking which was made with which camera.
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LOL, yeah, I know about the EXIF, just doesn't bother to delete it. Figures if the participants really wants to know the answer immediately, they could just download the pic and read it themselves :laugh:
Using voice control also prevents the button press from shaking the camera, but it does seem silly to talk to your camera (and it only worked well for me in very quiet conditions when I was playing with it).
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Using voice control also prevents the button press from shaking the camera, but it does seem silly to talk to your camera (and it only worked well for me in very quiet conditions when I was playing with it).
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As most of the photos I take a in quiet locations (in the middle of the woods) this seems like it would benefit the technologically equipped nature enthusiast. My curiosity lays with the camera/phone durability in the elements and the quality of the shots while on the go. Versatility of those qualities would sell this product to me.
Other qualities I seek are how the camera responds to IR lighting at night and how it handles the common accidental drop.
I think this guy is the start of a beautiful line of products we should hope to see in the future. It would definitely halt my project of creating a USB 76mm zoom attachment for the daily smart phone. (that's as much detail as you'll get until I finish! If I finish...)
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About the zoom feature, SGC anti-shake is really bad. I shot an object with maximum optical zoom (21x) using a tripod, and still couldn't get a clear shot. The problem is, when we hit the shutter button, our finger pressure on the shutter button will make the camera move albeit really little (almost unnoticeable). The anti-shake should compensate for this, but it doesn't.
With the Canon camera and a tripod, I can get a clear shot easily using max optical zoom 20x which means the anti-shake does the job well.
My personal solution for this is, I use 2 seconds timer. After I hit the shutter button, I immediately lift my hands of the camera (it is on the tripod) so the camera has enough time to get back into "steady position" and I can get a clear shot.
LOL, yeah, I know about the EXIF, just doesn't bother to delete it. Figures if the participants really wants to know the answer immediately, they could just download the pic and read it themselves :laugh:
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For SGC, Samsung actually recommends against using OIS with a tripod. But of a limitation, but in theory, with a tripod you may not need OIS. I may be wrong though, as I know squat about cameras.
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For SGC, Samsung actually recommends against using OIS with a tripod. But of a limitation, but in theory, with a tripod you may not need OIS. I may be wrong though, as I know squat about cameras.
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I can't comment on this camera in particular as I don't have it "yet" but I am a photographer and I can confirm that using stabilization whilst on a tripod can have the adverse affect on the image and is generally better for the image quality if you turn it off, if you are using a tripod. There can be exceptions to this however, if you're using a telephoto lens (or in the case of this camera, using the zoom guilt extended) and there is slight movement in the camera from wind for example.
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uberNoobZA said:
For SGC, Samsung actually recommends against using OIS with a tripod. But of a limitation, but in theory, with a tripod you may not need OIS. I may be wrong though, as I know squat about cameras.
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I can't comment on this camera in particular as I don't have it "yet" but I am a photographer and I can confirm that using stabilization whilst on a tripod can have the adverse affect on the image and is generally better for the image quality if you turn it off, if you are using a tripod. There can be exceptions to this however, if you're using a telephoto lens (or in the case of this camera, using the zoom guilt extended) and there is slight movement in the camera from wind for example.
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So are you saying that if I want to shot with 21x optical zoom + tripod, I should just turn off the anti-shake?
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So are you saying that if I want to shot with 21x optical zoom + tripod, I should just turn off the anti-shake?
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Yes, the guidance for most OIS systems is that if the camera is on a tripod you should turn off anti-shake as the device will then keep trying to compensate for something that isn't there. You end up burning battery, and the lens will often make micro moves to compensate for what "should" be there.
The one exception would be if the tripod itself isn't stable (wind, etc), but then you would question what the point to using the tripod is in that case.
Left pic is sharper.
I think the left is more vibrant.
Rather than ISO100, how about 800 or higher? Almost any camera, even the cheapest, can do OK at ISO100 in good light.
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Rather than ISO100, how about 800 or higher? Almost any camera, even the cheapest, can do OK at ISO100 in good light.
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I do ISO 100 on purpose.
SGC noise is bad starting from ISO800 and up, while the Canon still has good quality pic on ISO800 and up.
If I compare the pic on ISO800 plus, everyone will easily know which one the canon and which one the SGC
please note that my purpose showing this comparation is not to show that SGC pic quality can beat or on par with Canon SX260, I just want to show that for normal photography, SGC is sufficient enough.
first of all i'm not a professional photographer and based from my point of view, left picture is more vibrant than the right picture.
Would be great if we had a thread with some tips how to get the best photos with the Z1.
Any tips? Please share. I for one would love to dive in the magical world of digital photography. Think the Z1 is a great starting point.
Maybe we could even use this knowledge to create an awesome camera app for our z1.
I dont have a Z1 yet (planning to get one soon as my contract expires) but from what I have reading, Manual mode + Iso 50-200 seems to get the best result.
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Would be great if we had a thread with some tips how to get the best photos with the Z1.
Any tips? Please share. I for one would love to dive in the magical world of digital photography. Think the Z1 is a great starting point.
Maybe we could even use this knowledge to create an awesome camera app for our z1.
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Well, here's a couple of tips to start you off:-
1. Noise is an issue with the current camera firmware.
The best way to address this is to shoot in Manual mode where you will have a greater control over the shot.
Look at the ISO value and where possible change it to ISO 50. This will give the clearest noise free image possible.
2. Don't use Digital Zoom. Frame correctly and crop your images.
Often I hear of owners looking to zoom in as much as possible before taking the shot.
Whilst that is fine and dandy on cameras which have lens that support optical zoom, never ever use digital zoom.
Instead, take the shot using the full coverage of the shot (no zoom). This will then allow you to 'crop' the image to whatever zoom you wish and you can perform as many crops as you wish from one shot (top, bottom, left, right, centre of a shot)
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Morlock O said:
I dont have a Z1 yet (planning to get one soon as my contract expires) but from what I have reading, Manual mode + Iso 50-200 seems to get the best result.
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Apologies..... You posted this whilst I was compiling my post above.
Morlock O said:
I dont have a Z1 yet (planning to get one soon as my contract expires) but from what I have reading, Manual mode + Iso 50-200 seems to get the best result.
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Beards said:
Well, here's a couple of tips to start you off:-
1. Noise is an issue with the current camera firmware.
The best way to address this is to shoot in Manual mode where you will have a greater control over the shot.
Look at the ISO value and where possible change it to ISO 50. This will give the clearest noise free image possible.
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Aha! And which resolution do you advice in this mode? The full 20 MP resolution?
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2. Don't use Digital Zoom. Frame correctly and crop your images.
Often I hear of owners looking to zoom in as much as possible before taking the shot.
Whilst that is fine and dandy on cameras which have lens that support optical zoom, never ever use digital zoom.
Instead, take the shot using the full coverage of the shot (no zoom). This will then allow you to 'crop' the image to whatever zoom you wish and you can perform as many crops as you wish from one shot (top, bottom, left, right, centre of a shot)
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I saw an ad off Sony in which they suggested that one could do a 3x digital zoom without a compromise in quality. But I agree, why not take a full frame shot and zoom afterwards.
Btw nice to see you here Beards. How is your HD2
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Aha! And which resolution do you advice in this mode? The full 20 MP resolution?
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Depends on the shot...
If I still want to use Image Stabiizer or HDR I will change from 20MP to 8MP as 20MP does not support either of these features.
Further, for night shots the camera lens is not looking for stacks of detail. As such often for night shooting you can get away with a lower pixel shot.
I saw an ad off Sony in which they suggested that one could do a 3x digital zoom without a compromise in quality. But I agree, why not take a full frame shot and zoom afterwards.
Btw nice to see you here Beards. How is your HD2
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Yes, you can do the 3x digital but once you have done it this can lead to the next shot being over zoomed, that and it's always better to crop as you know.
P.S. Yes mate..... Nice to see you too.
And yes, I still have the HD2. Kept it for sentimental reasons
If Sony fixes the camera software, we'll all see a enormous difference in quality! Setting everything to manual will give you much better results. Now I tried the "Focal" camera app from the Playstore, and the low light shots are really, really awesome! The app itself is very minimalistic, but produces stunning results with the Z1! Give it a go, I'll try to upload some shots I took when I'm home!
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And yes, I still have the HD2. Kept it for sentimental reasons
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kept and still using mine hehe, anyway shouldnt we zoom in 3x losless(?) first then crop the photo? any further zoom than 3x is going to substantially lose the quality then?
im hoping to get my Z1 tmorrow so i can try out my theory hehe
Anadinolin said:
kept and still using mine hehe, anyway shouldnt we zoom in 3x losless(?) first then crop the photo? any further zoom than 3x is going to substantially lose the quality then?
im hoping to get my Z1 tmorrow so i can try out my theory hehe
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Ahh a fellow HD2 user. We are but a dying breed...
Re the 3x lossless digital zoom.
There are two issues here:-
1. All the 3x lossless zoom does is do what cropping does . It just restricts it to 3x to avoid over zooming where the shot would then look too pixelated.
2. Once you apply 3x zoom on any image that is it, you can't go back and say "blast! I should have zoomed in a bit less".
At least with the full frame you can make as many different crops as you like and apply it to any part of the image.
In other words where digital shooting is concerned shoot full then crop. 9 times out of 10 the software PP will handle it better anyway.
I would advice to download a more capable camera app for the moment until Sony fixes the severa problems they are having.
Otherwise I would NOT recommend using the Auto mode because right now it's seriously underperforming choosing the Manual setting would allow you for more options of course.
Turn off stabilization when capturing videos if you value the field of view because it's not OIS, this is Digital meaning it is cropping the picture instead otherwise the Steayshot feature is pretty solid
Hello, I was reading a Galaxy Note 4 review and came across 2x lossless zooming for 30fps 1080p video recording and wondered why we don't have it.
Lossless zooming is great as it preserves detail in zoomed situations while keeping the file size big, unlike 4k recording which would consume lots of storage to record then zoom afterwards
As our phone supports 4k recording, doesn't the G2 have the ability to have lossless zooming capability?
If so, can someone tell me if there is there an app that enables us to do this, or someone, perhaps xdabbeb, can enable it for us??
Thanks
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Hello, I was reading a Galaxy Note 4 review and came across 2x lossless zooming for 30fps 1080p video recording and wondered why we don't have it.
Lossless zooming is great as it preserves detail in zoomed situations while keeping the file size big, unlike 4k recording which would consume lots of storage to record then zoom afterwards
As our phone supports 4k recording, doesn't the G2 have the ability to have lossless zooming capability?
If so, can someone tell me if there is there an app that enables us to do this, or someone, perhaps xdabbeb, can enable it for us??
Thanks
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Lossless zoom is achieved when u have an optical lens movment.
I dont believe any of these phones have optical zoom.
You can't "enable" optical zoom. It literally means that the lesnses need to move back and forth. Like in cameras. You see the lens moving and adjusting to the zoom.
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Lossless zoom is achieved when u have an optical lens movment.
I dont believe any of these phones have optical zoom.
You can't "enable" optical zoom. It literally means that the lesnses need to move back and forth. Like in cameras. You see the lens moving and adjusting to the zoom.
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I thought it was a software thing on mobile phones where they increased video resolution and cropped it to show the area you are zooming in on so that the zoomed part remains 1080p??
For example, a quarter of a 4k video would be a 'zoomed in' 1080p one
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I thought it was a software thing on mobile phones where they increased video resolution and cropped it to show the area you are zooming in on so that the zoomed part remains 1080p??
For example, a quarter of a 4k video would be a 'zoomed in' 1080p one
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I guess.. It can't preserve detail so it has to be cropped.
It's like zooming into a picture in photoshop.
We have digital zoom only. Digital zoom scales an area up to "zoom" in. It blows up pictures making them look nasty.
This is a great question and I think the prior replies have missed the concept. Yes, our camera is like 8 or 12 megapixels, but 1080p HD video is like only 2 megapixels. So when we record video on our 8 megapixel sensors, the sensor "line-skips" to resolve only a 2 megapixel (1080p) image. When we zoom in, digitally, it keeps the same "line-skipping" design as non-zoomed. This results in a lower-than-HD resolution. It would be VERY SMART to adjust the line-skipping design, or not line-skip at all, on a digital zoom, thus still using 2 megapixels worth of photo sites to capture the "zoomed" image. This is the same concept as "sensor windowing" used on RED cameras when changing the resolution. I'm surprised this is not the new/standard way to implement digital zooming on ALL modern smartphones to preserve details and resolution when digitally zooming, because of course there is no optical zoom option.
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We have digital zoom only. Digital zoom scales an area up to "zoom" in. It blows up pictures making them look nasty.
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I am quite sure the note 4 does not have optical zooming. This is the reason it made me think and 'come up' with this idea.
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This is a great question and I think the prior replies have missed the concept. Yes, our camera is like 8 or 12 megapixels, but 1080p HD video is like only 2 megapixels. So when we record video on our 8 megapixel sensors, the sensor "line-skips" to resolve only a 2 megapixel (1080p) image. When we zoom in, digitally, it keeps the same "line-skipping" design as non-zoomed. This results in a lower-than-HD resolution. It would be VERY SMART to adjust the line-skipping design, or not line-skip at all, on a digital zoom, thus still using 2 megapixels worth of photo sites to capture the "zoomed" image. This is the same concept as "sensor windowing" used on RED cameras when changing the resolution. I'm surprised this is not the new/standard way to implement digital zooming on ALL modern smartphones to preserve details and resolution when digitally zooming, because of course there is no optical zoom option.
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I do not know much of cameras so I do not fully understand what you(Jackdup) are saying, but I think you know what I mean
Just wondering, do you know of any apps that can do this, or know how this works? Maybe you can explain it to a developer to implement it in our devices
Thanks