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I think I may have broken my phone

I'm in a bit of a panic and think I need help.
I bought the HTC Hero from Bestbuy roughly Nov. 2009. And like everyone else love it, but was frustrated with all the bugs and slowness, lag ext. Reading and waiting for 2.1, getting impatient weekly...blah blah blah....but horrified to try to root the phone, because im not the techiest guy in the world, so when I saw that there was a 2.1 leak that I could just click from my computer, I did it like an impatient child.
RUU_Hero_C_Sprint_2206511_signed_test.exe
and have had a major problem ever since. The phone will shut off if its not plugged in. I have to constantly turn it back on and wait for it to reboot.
So I followed "How-To repair your bootloader after using the 2.1 RUU" to the T! With no error messages and got it back to "stock" which still looked like 2.1 to me. I formated the SD card from the phone, did a full wipe in that black/green boot page and flashed Beezy's "option 4",
I believe I did a nanbackup right before the "option 4". But I don't think it matters, since the phone was shutting down before that anyway.
So that's where I am. If I'm messing around with the phone (on a call, web, playing with apps) it will stay on, but as soon as I set it down and the screen goes to sleep, thats it, when I pick it up and hit the menu or power button, it reboots (white screen, HTC logo). Am I F'ed? I do have insurance through sprint, but believe that is void now, since I stated messing around with it.
I swapped Batteries with my wife's phone and it still happend, so it's not a bad battery.
I'm sorry if I posted in the wrong forum. I did a search for "constant rebooting" and couldn't find anything similar to my problem.
Thanks in advance.

If all you see is the white htc screen you probably aren't actually rebooting just rosie is restarting. Probably because the ruu doesn't work too well on its own. I suggest you just take the plunge and root, wipe, and flash fresh 2.0d or damage 2.07.2 ( your choice really, both are excellent roms)
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Well, first off it doesn't sound like you are rebooting, it sounds like sense might just be restarting.
Also, don't panic. Whatever you have done is fixable
surely someone who is not posting from their phone will be along to help soon, if not I'll be back home and on my pc in a few hours

Just to confirm
Can you go into settings > about phone > software information (1.5 maybe slightly different I can't remember any more) and tell us what Firmware version says? this way we can make sure that you are running the appropriate version to RUU back to 1.5 and reroot.
I am not sure exactly what is still on your phone.
Also have you ever flashed a radio update from flipz?

I agree, that it isn't rebooting, but its the sense crashing and restarting. I would also agree, that your best option would be to root.
Honestly, the guides are laid out as plain as they could be. It isn't that difficult, you just have to check and re-check typed commands, if done manually.
I think you will be pleasantly surprised and find it simpler than you think.
However, ALWAYS make sure to do to the following:
1. nandroid before you do anything.
2. NEVER EVER NEVER EVER touch anything that doesn't say CDMA HERO. (gsm hero radio flashes can literally fry your nice phone into a nice paperweight)
3. Don't be afraid to ask questions here. I'm pretty new to this, but there are a lot of cool helpful people.
4. nandroid again. (copy nandroids to your PC/Mac and keep a whole library of them.) I even have some extra google space that I've been uploading them to incase I'm not at my computer and I need one...lol)
5. Don't get too sucked into it.

Thank you guys for responding, as I was worried I would get flamed for being an idiot for doing what I did.
"I suggest you just take the plunge and root, wipe, and flash fresh 2.0d or damage 2.07.2 ( your choice really, both are excellent roms) "
Isn't "How-To repair your bootloader after using the 2.1 RUU" basically rooting the phone? Because after I follow those instructions, I get the the recovery menu. I just haven't tried Damage roms yes.
Also, "Well, first off it doesn't sound like you are rebooting, it sounds like sense might just be restarting."
Looks like a full boot...
HTC Logo white screen, green text
HTC Quietly Brilliant
Sparkly Sprint thing
HTC Quietly Brilliant
Lock Screen
Loading apps
I should mention that I have been testing things like, Turning off "Screen Timeout" completely, 10 mins, 1 min, 30 seconds...ext. And it still shuts down after a few minutes when the screen is off......HOWEVER, it is random as far as how long it has been sitting.....Sometimes the screen will be black for a minute and when I hit the menu or power it will reboot....sometimes it will sit for 10 mins and will turn on.....very random, but it WILL reboot eventually.
Thanks again, guys

Chaid said:
Looks like a full boot...
HTC Logo white screen, green text
HTC Quietly Brilliant
Sparkly Sprint thing
HTC Quietly Brilliant
Lock Screen
Loading apps
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Do you see the first black HTC screen? I know I've done the HTC quietly brilliant screen, but then it goes right to lock screen and loading apps.
I still don't think it is a full reboot, but I'm not THAT up to speed with most of this stuff.
Also, RUU'ing back to stock, then rooting and installing a 2.1 rom by Damagless or Flips should be your best bet.
RUUing back to stock has some problems in and of itself, but it should go ok.

Chaid said:
Looks like a full boot...
HTC Logo white screen, green text
HTC Quietly Brilliant
Sparkly Sprint thing
HTC Quietly Brilliant
Lock Screen
Loading apps
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Weird...
Regardless, this is fixable.
As Kcarpenter asked, post your system info if you can get to it.
What is your:
Firmware
Baseband
Kernel
Build
Software Number
PRI
PRL

Firmware: 2.1 -update1
Baseband: 2.42.00.03.10
Kernel: 2.6.29-d30020a8
[email protected] #1
Build: 2.20.651.1 CL157175 test-keys
Software Number: 2.20.651.1
PRI: 2.10_003
PRL: 60664

Chaid said:
Looks like a full boot...
HTC Logo white screen, green text
HTC Quietly Brilliant
Sparkly Sprint thing
HTC Quietly Brilliant
Lock Screen
Loading apps
Thanks again, guys
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Sounds like you are using a 2.1 rom not the stock 1.5
I would try using this guide http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=608434 to correct your issues it will take you back to stock 1.56.651.2 that come with the phone
Oh and if you get any errors this will help too http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=654119

Guys, since he used the 2.1 RUU, isn't he only able to use the 2.1 RUU now? Not the 1.5?

I too am experiencing this.
Factory reset my phone and then flashed from 1.6 to 2.1. I have tried two different 2.1 roms (the sprint leak one and Freshrom) and both of them are causing spontaneous reboots of my phone. I never experienced reboots when on 1.6.
Software information:
2.1 fresh
baseband 1.04.01.09.21
Kernel is 2.6.29-d30020a8
build is fresh rom 2.0d
Software number is 2.20.651.1
PRI is flipz_01
PRL is 60660
any suggestions from anyone?

mrinehart93 said:
Guys, since he used the 2.1 RUU, isn't he only able to use the 2.1 RUU now? Not the 1.5?
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I believe you are correct, although I have yet to use any RUU
OP, you really should just root the thing flash a rom and succumb to the new obsession you don't even know you have yet
Personally, I'm a fan of RegawMODv2.1, it's lean and stable.

I think that even though you have run 2.1 RUU we can take you back to a bone stock 2.1
When I get home tonight I will try to link to all of the appropriate guides to get you there.
Once we have you back at a stock 1.5 I think we can all say "ROOT IT!" but I would feel more comfortable knowing that you came from the begining in the right order of things.
And get you on a solid stable Rom. I have recently started having issues with my damage rom and all of the aps2sd stuff that has been going on. Not sure what I am going to move to next. But that's besides the point, and none of it is Damageless's fault.

Ok, Kcarpenter, I'll be waiting LOL. I have been f'ing with this thing for a few days now, reading different forums and searching and searching. I finally broke down and posted here, because I'm at a loss. So I REALLY appreciate you guys taking the time to help me. Plugging the phone into my work truck laptop and running to the house to plug it in is wearing me down...

You just need to get over the fear of f*ing up your phone and root it. I'm not sure where the treads are on everything you need, but it's pretty straight forward.
If you had rooted while still running 1.5 you probably would not be in this mess. And Flipz has Fresh Kitchen which makes it even easier to Root and put a recovery console on.

"If you had rooted while still running 1.5 you probably would not be in this mess." You are absolutely correct, &RoidRage. I got excited when I saw the word "Official" 2.1, and jumped the gun.

Chaid said:
"If you had rooted while still running 1.5 you probably would not be in this mess." You are absolutely correct, &RoidRage. I got excited when I saw the word "Official" 2.1, and jumped the gun.
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That probably created lots of people to get excited.. Anyway, here is what I got
Okay first I looked here
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=661057&page=6
Which directed me to
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?p=6013606#post6013606<--------This is the one you really want.
If you get it to work then you can flash a custom rom. But make sure you download it and put it on the sdcard before doing anything else.
I know it says it is for the 110 error, but people have used it to get back to 1.5 from 2.1

Thanks, man. I'll give it a shot......I have nothing to loose at this point, so I'm over my fear of F'ing up the phone.

I would read everything first, I didn't have the time look it all over.
Editamn predictive text said wetting instead of everything.
Sent from my HERO200 using the XDA mobile application powered by Tapatalk

Why does my phone shutoff?

Rooted my Hero and it doesn't matter which custom Rom I've tried(Fresh, Damage, others) my phone will shut off most of the time it goes into sleep. I don't know its off until I go to wake it up by hitting the end button. When I restore back to the stock Rom(still rooted) it works fine. I do a wipe and a Dalvick wipe prior to flashing. I'd like to get this figured out so I can use one of the nice Roms. Thanks.

If you're running A2SD and you have the Dalvisk on a slow sd card you phone can reboot or shut off. Try moving it off of the SD

patkin said:
Rooted my Hero and it doesn't matter which custom Rom I've tried(Fresh, Damage, others) my phone will shut off most of the time it goes into sleep. I don't know its off until I go to wake it up by hitting the end button. When I restore back to the stock Rom(still rooted) it works fine. I do a wipe and a Dalvick wipe prior to flashing. I'd like to get this figured out so I can use one of the nice Roms. Thanks.
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WOW! You are the first person that has had the same problem I have...I was never able to resolve the issue. I used that bastard 2.1 test leak.......read my posts and what I went through.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?p=6268366#post6268366
My phone works fine now with gumbo 1.5, but I cant use any 2.1 roms or the problem comes back......

kyouko said:
If you're running A2SD and you have the Dalvisk on a slow sd card you phone can reboot or shut off. Try moving it off of the SD
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I am not positive what A2SD is. I have a new 8MB SD card that came today. If I pop that in what will happen. Should it be partitioned? Thanks.

Chaid said:
WOW! You are the first person that has had the same problem I have...I was never able to resolve the issue. I used that bastard 2.1 test leak.......read my posts and what I went through.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?p=6268366#post6268366
My phone works fine now with gumbo 1.5, but I cant use any 2.1 roms or the problem comes back......
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Thank God I thought I was the only one. I searched but didn't see your thread. Weird problem.

Same problem here too since the new leaked 2.1 test ruu from damaged. The only 2.1 Rom that works for my needs without rebooting every 3rd or 4th time I wake it using the end call/power button is Damagedtrev 2.01, the updated 2.05 Rom in his thread just makes my phone reboot as described above. I don't have a link to his thread, but it would be interesting to see if it worked on your phone too. Other's have claimed a battery shorting might be causing this issue, but I'm not buying that. I've looked at /proc/lastkmsg for clues, but nothing obvious there. I hope the official Sprint update doesn't have this bug or sprint will be giving me a new phone. /end rant

I can't seem to find Damagedtrev 2.01
So I can't test it.

Here's the link to the thread.
I cannot post links, because of some restrictions,but here is the last part of the url.
forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=653622
here's the link for the full rom
Oops cannot post link to rom on 4shared, look in the bottom of the first post in the thread for a link to the full rom of DamagedTrev_v201
Please let us know if the rebooting stops for you. Maybe one of the devs could find where the problem is. Pretty please!! I could post any info needed.

Ok, downloading......stay tuned.
I really hope this 2.1 ROM works.....I'm kinda sick of 1.5.
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P.S. I'm reading that there is a battery issue....do you have that?

kyouko said:
If you're running A2SD and you have the Dalvisk on a slow sd card you phone can reboot or shut off. Try moving it off of the SD
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Hey good news. I put the new SD card in after backing up the other one, partitioned it and copied the files and folders back on then flashed ALOYSIUS and so far so good. I have woken it up about 10 times in a row. Looking good.
I had tried that perticular Rom before with no success.

Interesting.....I'm using the 2 gig sd card that came with the phone....I wonder if that is my problem?

Well it started again. This was right after setting my Gmail and POP3 mail accounts. It shut off on the first sleep after this. Hmmmmm.
I'm re-flashing now and not setting up the mail accounts. Will report back later.

Waldo447
Please let us know if the rebooting stops for you. Maybe one of the devs could find where the problem is. Pretty please!! I could post any info needed.
Well, my friend. You were correct! full rom of DamagedTrev_v201 works on our phones for some strange reason. And updating his ROM caused the re-booting to start again. So whatever was changed from 2.0.1 to 2.0.5 is causing our particular problem. I'm not a dev by any means and don't know much about his stuff, but this is encouraging. Perhaps someone can figure out what it is?
I did notice that ALL the other 2.1 ROM's I have used that cause my phone to re-boot from sleep mode, is that when I hit the menu or power button to turn it on, the lights turn on, then reboot phone. With DamagedTrev_v201 that doesn't happen. The screen just pops up to unlock it.....don't know if that helps, it's just something I noticed.
Heres to crossing our fingers that someone can fix this!
P.S. I wiped and went back to Gumbo 1.5c as that 2.1 ROM was way to slow for me and I couldn't get bluetooth to work and audio would cut in and out.

reboot
i would like to know if its a full reboot or just a soft like where it hes to the sprint or boot animation

kwajr said:
i would like to know if its a full reboot or just a soft like where it hes to the sprint or boot animation
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It's a full reboot. The phone actually turns off when it goes into sleep. You don't know it's off until you hit the button to wake it up and the phone boots up.
Now for the good news. After re-flashing and not setting up the email accounts it was still shutting downconfused so I started looking elsewhere so I opened up what I thought was a likely culprit in Autokiller and none of the presets where selected so I picked Moderate and haven't had a shutdown since which has been over an hour. Fingers are crossed. I'll report back later.

That's it I've wasted way too much time on this. Phone works great on the stock ROM. They must have planted some devious anti-flash widget in this phone. I'll leave it rooted for now.

patkin, dude, I felt the same...I gave up on 2.1.
download, wipe then flash Gumbo-1.5c-BARE-signed.zip after it reboots, download and flash Gumbo-Sense-signed.zip.
You flash Gumbo-Sense-signed.zip over the Gumbo-1.5. No need to wipe or anything, it just adds to the ROM. Fast as hell and works PERFECT.
http://www.4shared.com/file/217809392/5fcf1f5d/Gumbo-15c-BARE-signed.html
http://www.4shared.com/file/217811195/3afb5fcf/Gumbo-Sense-signed.html
Give it a shot....I think you will like it......let me know =)
Gumbo thred so you can read up if you like. http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=630221

Chaid said:
Waldo447
Please let us know if the rebooting stops for you. Maybe one of the devs could find where the problem is. Pretty please!! I could post any info needed.
Well, my friend. You were correct! full rom of DamagedTrev_v201 works on our phones for some strange reason. And updating his ROM caused the re-booting to start again. So whatever was changed from 2.0.1 to 2.0.5 is causing our particular problem. I'm not a dev by any means and don't know much about his stuff, but this is encouraging. Perhaps someone can figure out what it is?
I did notice that ALL the other 2.1 ROM's I have used that cause my phone to re-boot from sleep mode, is that when I hit the menu or power button to turn it on, the lights turn on, then reboot phone. With DamagedTrev_v201 that doesn't happen. The screen just pops up to unlock it.....don't know if that helps, it's just something I noticed.
Heres to crossing our fingers that someone can fix this!
P.S. I wiped and went back to Gumbo 1.5c as that 2.1 ROM was way to slow for me and I couldn't get bluetooth to work and audio would cut in and out.
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Glad to see your rebooting issue was fixed with this rom even though you went back to gumbo 1.5. In my mind, this just confirms that it is not a battery issue. I never use bluetooth and have never experienced any audio loss with this rom, but apparently even people on the same hardware and firmware versions have different problems.
kwajr said:
i would like to know if its a full reboot or just a soft like where it hes to the sprint or boot animation
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Full Reboot here too.
patkin said:
That's it I've wasted way too much time on this. Phone works great on the stock ROM. They must have planted some devious anti-flash widget in this phone. I'll leave it rooted for now.
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Yeah, got my phone beginning of march 2010 and I also think there is something in the 2.1 test ruu or hardware that is keeping the phone from functioning properly with an altered 2.1 rom.

Just wanted to let people know what happened to resolve this. I went back to 1.5 then when 2.1 official came out last week I said what the heck if I can't enjoy a rooted custom 2.1 I'll try the official and guess what. Same problem as the other 2.1's.........phone shuts off randomly! Except this time they are replacing it with a new phone. Yeaaah! I'm probably going Evo now though since I found out I can get a new phone. Anyone need a new Hero?

I'm having the same problem.. One question. Does DarchDroid automatically move dalvik-cache to the sd

phone won't go past 50%

hey guys.
i have a tmobile hd2 and i've noticed that my phone wont go past 50% with memory usage without having to restart itself. its very annoying. it happens after ive been using the phone for a while or been using the wi-fi router. my touch pro 2 never did that to me though so im wondering whats wrong.
help?
thanks

sorry to bump this but can no one help me?

Is it getting hot? Mine gets warm after using WIFI router. Once, only once, and I have no idea why because it hasn't done it since then, it randomly rebooted. I understand that higher temps can cause issues with the HD2. I'd do a search but I'm too frazzeled after a long day of work.

it cant be the heat...my phone gets warm but not hot once in a while. when it resets itself, it doesnt have to be hot to do it.
and when it does reset itself, it forgets to start the gps so i have to reset it again
i hate when it does it...is that normal to not go past 50% ram usage? does anyone elses do that? im gonna call and get a replacement but does anyone elses HD2 not go past it?

goodtilltomorrow said:
it cant be the heat...my phone gets warm but not hot once in a while. when it resets itself, it doesnt have to be hot to do it.
and when it does reset itself, it forgets to start the gps so i have to reset it again
i hate when it does it...is that normal to not go past 50% ram usage? does anyone elses do that? im gonna call and get a replacement but does anyone elses HD2 not go past it?
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You don't have your ROM in your sig, so I don't know if you have a custom or not.
For sure, you phone crashing that fast is a shame and not normal.
If you are running a custom ROM, try getting on that thread to see if someone has or had the same issue. Sometimes these things happen and fixes are pretty fast if the chef wants to keep an audience.
If you are running stock, you might consider giving a custom ROM a shot, especially some of the "Lite" versions out there.
Be sure to Task 29 between any flashing to wipe out all previous data. Spare bits hanging around can interfere with a new ROM in unpredictable ways, including developing a crash pattern specific to your device that doesn't happen to other users of the same ROM.
Please keep us informed of your progress, someday another might have the issue and be looking for your solution, even if that is a hardware warranty exchange

hmm, i can see the rom version and everything on my sig... =/
im running the stock rom.
i wanted to go to a custom rom but then i hate having to update the rom every time a new one comes out. you know? props to the chefs who do that though!
i just had it exchanged. it was too annoying to keep going on like that

[Q] [POLL] Screen-Off-Issue after call

Hi,
many people still claim there isn't such a problem but there IS:
After ending a call the screen stays off and can't be turned on again. Hardwarekeys don' t do anything.
Only option: Hold the phone in bright light or take battery out -.-
I tried the most popular roms here (NAND&SD)
In WinMo everything works fine.
So here i want to show that not only i but many others suffer by this issue.
Hopefully some real CHEFS/Devs realize this.
Making tons of senseless customisations and graphics tweaks isn't enough to be a real Dev...
Here are some of the threads concerning this issue so far:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1061481
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=965123&highlight=call+screen
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1097531&highlight=call+screen
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1097531&highlight=call+screen
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=735906
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=946012
http://forum.xda-developers.com/archive/index.php/t-946012.html

srmemnoch2 said:
gsm.proximity.enable=false
you can include this in your build.prop file, locate in /system and reboot.
this never turn off screnn during calls..
but i think only run in froyo
im desperate i want update to gingerbread but this code do not run on ginger.
ragards
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this really helps! But now the screen stys on all the time, must be careful not to end the call by touching the screen XD... But it's better than having a blocked phone.
But still the issue itself isn't solved ...

You could try http://www.xda-developers.com/android/proximity-sensor-re-calibrator-for-desire-hd/ this?

yes tried this already before, thanks, but didn't work.
I know this problem sounds weird to those who don't have this issue but it's real (i'm not crazy XD) The hardware is also working correctly as on WinMo everythiong's fine

I'm been having this problem since my first rom. I actually thought it was just my phone. It drives me crazy, as I found that plugging it in gets the screen to return. Very annoying!
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[Q] ics roms, screen turns black after answering

I have tried 3 different moded ics roms, and everytime i answer a call, my screen goes to sleep or turns black, i tried pressing all the buttons trying to wake it up but it just wont. the screen wakes up after the call. i tried to look for it maybe in the call settings somewhere, but no luck, anybody else having this problem??
thanks

Sense, AOSP/AOKP or both? I hate to beat this dead horse, but do you do a full wipe between flashes including the system partition?

estallings15 said:
Sense, AOSP/AOKP or both? I hate to beat this dead horse, but do you do a full wipe between flashes including the system partition?
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aww man thanks for even attempting to reply to my problem. i posted this in the rootie thread and no one payed attention, so i must be the only one with this issue.
the first rom was rootie tootie and the other one was mexdroidmod.
Yes i went to cwm and reset to factory, clear cache and cleared davlik cache. flashed and did set permission.
My sd card is not partitioned so i have no partitions to clear.
I just flashed Hybrid HTC One Series and i thought i had the same issue, but with this one, i just press the power button, and the screen would wake up. So this would have been the perfect rom for my daily driver for now but i cant install swype on it and somehow some apps doesnt have sound, such as viber and voxer. the other party cant hear me..
Im going to use gb for now till awesome uploads the haters going to hate edition of his rootie and try again.
Im tempted to try to flash again and this time format my sd card. Any other suggestions, i wonder what im doing wrong...
or do you have any roms to suggest to try out?
thanks for the time.
awesome pic on ur avatar...i have the same on for my google+ hehe we must be near the same age...

Go to the mounts/partitions (I think) and format /system. Then do your normal wipe.
This is more thorough.
Now flash the ROM of your choice. Let us know if this solves your problems.

I just flashed awesome's rootie haters edition doing what you advised... and its still the same problem, The problem is intermittent, 3 out of 5 times it would do it. I was trying it with my dads phone calling my phone. I think maybe its some sensor issue or settings. with the htc one rom it does the same thing but i can press power and turn the screen back on... ugh.. is my phone just flaky! dropped it too many times. i would stick with the htc one rom but i cant get swype to work..and the sound issues with certain apps ..ugh

maybe its something i installed... ill try later with just a base rom without my apps..could google voice be doing it.. hmm

Did you flash anything other than the ROM?

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Did you flash anything other than the ROM?
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Ok, i just redid it a few moments ago and same problem
so i went to cwm , did reset factory, clear davlik, format /system /data and whatever else i can find..
flashed meXdroidMod Fried IceCream3! FINAL, the sufix aokp_fix.zip and gappsFINAL
thats it and tried it with my dad's phone, same problem, screen wont wake up, and its intermittent.
I dont know if this is relevant but my screen broke a week ago and had it replaced...

Have you checked to see if your proximity sensor works? There apps for that. Its at the top, front of your phone - opposite the camera.
Edit: I was just reading your posts. Are you flashing a ROM, restoring backed up apps and THEN having this issue?

aww , not yet, thats what im thinking is the problem... ill check that out tonight after work.

r0mmel said:
aww , not yet, thats what im thinking is the problem... ill check that out tonight after work.
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OMG THANKS!!!! that was the problem my proximity sensor. oh man im so happy!!
this thread helped me fix the problem
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1431935
thanks guys! now just wondering if its worth fixing the proximity sensor or just let it be.. hmm

That's completely up to you. You can probably get a new phone on contract for cheaper than getting that sensor replaced.