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[REQ] Flashable "lag-free" ROM

Thought maybe by now someone would make a workable flashable zip to flash basically stock vibrant firmware with the nand fix (the real method, not with 130 mb limit). If it is out there I apologize, but i'm almost sure I haven't seen it on here. And I'm referring to flashing via clockwork recovery. I've come from a G1 and really never had to do anything but download and hit the "flash any zip" option from recovery, and its a method i'm most comfortable with. Thanks for any direction you might provide.

This ROM doesn't use the NAND, it uses an EXT2/EXT3 partition on your SD card.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=743506

javacody said:
This ROM doesn't use the NAND, it uses an EXT2/EXT3 partition on your SD card.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=743506
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How is it working for you?

joe.kerwin said:
Thought maybe by now someone would make a workable flashable zip to flash basically stock vibrant firmware with the nand fix (the real method, not with 130 mb limit). If it is out there I apologize, but i'm almost sure I haven't seen it on here. And I'm referring to flashing via clockwork recovery. I've come from a G1 and really never had to do anything but download and hit the "flash any zip" option from recovery, and its a method i'm most comfortable with. Thanks for any direction you might provide.
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..since there is no way to magically make nand bigger than 128 megs (without soldering new chips on) I suspect "the real method" is the apps2sd method..

Disconn3ct said:
..since there is no way to magically make nand bigger than 128 megs (without soldering new chips on) I suspect "the real method" is the apps2sd method..
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Both Methods require ROOT*
*Method 1 limits the space of app data, which can possibly cause issues*
*Method 2 requires writing a new Kernel, which comes with it's own possible issues*
I'm just getting irritated. I have a 1ghz phone with lag/gps problems. It seems whenever I need to whip out my phone for something quick those are always the times it screws up too, so i get 10x more frustrated but I didn't want this to become a phone i'm constantly flashing and its already happening because it wasn't made right in the first place. Anyone with lag fix able to post a backup they might have made? I'm just looking for solutions, and easier ways to get there.

Plus maybe i'm just biased but creating an EXT? I thought those days were over when I cashed in my G1. I just dont understand how using an ext on your SD can be faster than storing the data internally.

joe.kerwin said:
Plus maybe i'm just biased but creating an EXT? I thought those days were over when I cashed in my G1. I just dont understand how using an ext on your SD can be faster than storing the data internally.
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Read the linked thread above and you'll learn. It's pretty simple.

MTC44 said:
Read the linked thread above and you'll learn. It's pretty simple.
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So I need to create an EXT partition first before flashing the above mentioned ROM? What are the recommended settings if any for size? And I partition through clockwork orrrr? I know there's probably an answer for all these questions but between people using UK firmware/unfamiliar terms I don't want to jump into anything without missing a step.

Just go to the userinit thread and apply it... No need to flash a whole rom... Just partition your sd and flash the zip...
I ran jf rom on my g1 for like 2 months before a rom that dramatically changed anything...
We were so gracious for just that... Be patient this is new hardware.. Look at the international development section... We have made a lot of progress in 3 weeks..
Sent from my SGH-T959 using XDA App

Why waste time asking questions when you can answer them yourself?

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Why waste time asking questions when you can answer them yourself?
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I dunno, why waste time posting that question when you can simply read on if you have no advice? The strange things we do. And yes it is new hardware, hence why I ask these questions before I dive into something I'm unfamiliar with. Id rather ask questions and wait than waste hours trying to get my phone to turn on again after jumping the gun. My question that still stands is with the partitioning. With my g1, it was cut and dry on Amon Ra, did it right in recovery, so is there anything like that for us vibrant owners? I've never used ADB or anything of that nature, so I come from a download and flash world, so excuse my unfamiliarity and please dont take it as me complaining that it's not easy enough to do.

Look how long it took for the g1 to get where it is at now? Eventually it will come. You think your the only who would like to have a lag free rom? If you would have done some reading on the development side, you would have noticed there were a couple of fixes and also some progress. Ask questions on those threads over there as far as the speed and if it will suit your needs.

joe.kerwin said:
I dunno, why waste time posting that question when you can simply read on if you have no advice? The strange things we do. And yes it is new hardware, hence why I ask these questions before I dive into something I'm unfamiliar with. Id rather ask questions and wait than waste hours trying to get my phone to turn on again after jumping the gun. My question that still stands is with the partitioning. With my g1, it was cut and dry on Amon Ra, did it right in recovery, so is there anything like that for us vibrant owners? I've never used ADB or anything of that nature, so I come from a download and flash world, so excuse my unfamiliarity and please dont take it as me complaining that it's not easy enough to do.
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Learn ADB if you want to hack a Vibrant. Without a keyboard, we can't do shells in recovery without it. There are tutorials, so I won't repeat them. Logcat is also very useful and low level devs won't be able to help you if you run into problems and can't provide a log.
Partitioning. DO NOT USE CLOCKWORK/ROM MANAGER. Right now it will partition the phone's INTERNAL flash, which is cause boot loops and you will have to Odin flash the phone back to stock to make it boot again. Use a computer and a card reader with Paragon, Gpartd, etc.. Or a G1 with Amon RA, or adb shell into clockwork recovery and use fdisk.
EXT size, doesn't really matter. You don't need a ton. I use 1GB and it's using about 180MB. For EXT type, use ext3 with the stock kernel, or, if you install JACs kernel, ext4 is faster and more reliable.
Note that partitioning on the phone in recovery via fdisk won't format the partitions. Flash my e2fsprogs ZIP file in JACs kernel thread for the versions that support ext4.
Before you start messing with this stuff, download the stock Odin flash files from the thread in development. If you mess something up, you can get back to stock. You should also get ADB and the Samsung drivers installed. Then get Titanium backup and make backups. When you install Clockwork, do a nandroid as well. Backups are GOOD.
Keep in mind, we are in the early stages of learning how to hack on these phones. We won't get to the level the G1 is at for a while. Go read the threads in the G1 dev forum from a year ago and you will see a lot of recommendations for learning adb, partitioning manually, and all the other stuff we are doing here on the Vibrant. It's a process. If you want flash and forget, you need to wait a while still. We're working on it, but we aren't there yet. This is new hardware and a whole new way of doing things.

ttabbal said:
Learn ADB if you want to hack a Vibrant. Without a keyboard, we can't do shells in recovery without it. There are tutorials, so I won't repeat them. Logcat is also very useful and low level devs won't be able to help you if you run into problems and can't provide a log.
Partitioning. DO NOT USE CLOCKWORK/ROM MANAGER. Right now it will partition the phone's INTERNAL flash, which is cause boot loops and you will have to Odin flash the phone back to stock to make it boot again. Use a computer and a card reader with Paragon, Gpartd, etc.. Or a G1 with Amon RA, or adb shell into clockwork recovery and use fdisk.
EXT size, doesn't really matter. You don't need a ton. I use 1GB and it's using about 180MB. For EXT type, use ext3 with the stock kernel, or, if you install JACs kernel, ext4 is faster and more reliable.
Note that partitioning on the phone in recovery via fdisk won't format the partitions. Flash my e2fsprogs ZIP file in JACs kernel thread for the versions that support ext4.
Before you start messing with this stuff, download the stock Odin flash files from the thread in development. If you mess something up, you can get back to stock. You should also get ADB and the Samsung drivers installed. Then get Titanium backup and make backups. When you install Clockwork, do a nandroid as well. Backups are GOOD.
Keep in mind, we are in the early stages of learning how to hack on these phones. We won't get to the level the G1 is at for a while. Go read the threads in the G1 dev forum from a year ago and you will see a lot of recommendations for learning adb, partitioning manually, and all the other stuff we are doing here on the Vibrant. It's a process. If you want flash and forget, you need to wait a while still. We're working on it, but we aren't there yet. This is new hardware and a whole new way of doing things.
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Thank you very much. Now this is a respectable response. i'll find some time next week to learn this ADB stuff.

joe.kerwin said:
I dunno, why waste time posting that question when you can simply read on if you have no advice? The strange things we do. And yes it is new hardware, hence why I ask these questions before I dive into something I'm unfamiliar with. Id rather ask questions and wait than waste hours trying to get my phone to turn on again after jumping the gun. My question that still stands is with the partitioning. With my g1, it was cut and dry on Amon Ra, did it right in recovery, so is there anything like that for us vibrant owners? I've never used ADB or anything of that nature, so I come from a download and flash world, so excuse my unfamiliarity and please dont take it as me complaining that it's not easy enough to do.
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No one is asking you to take a chance on bricking your phone hard or soft. I was implying more that you could learn or develop your knowledge of what others have placed in front of you. Everything takes time, rather "wasting" it on a procedure you don't understand, "waste" it on learning it, then do it. You have everything you want to know right in front of you. If you searched and read hard enough you'd now be able to "answer the questions yourself" to where you understand it.
Oh and just to let you know there is a flashable "lag-free" Rom in the Dev forum. While its bare, it is still doing wonders on this phone!
@ttabbal- You're the man!!! Don't know how you do it... lol

could someone that doesn't mind walking me through the correct partitioning method and getting this rom to work at it's max.. send me a private message so we can talk through gtalk tonight?. Im a fast learner, just purchased an 8gb class 4 sd card. I want to be safe.

Pm sent
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All~G1 said:
@ttabbal- You're the man!!! Don't know how you do it... lol
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I'm glad my stuff has been useful to the community. I'm a little shocked to see it integrated into a ROM and a kernel so far.
As for how I do it, what's the quote about standing on the shoulders of giants? I learned a ton reading posts and scripts from Cyanogen, Firerat, Eugene, and many others. Combine that with running Linux boxes for a few years, and you pick up enough to contribute a bit. Most of what I'm doing is adapting G1 hacks to work on the Vibrant, but I'm glad people like them.
Now if we could just get Samsung to give us decent GPS and compass drivers, maybe a tasty Froyo?

joe.kerwin said:
How is it working for you?
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Haven't tried it yet, my friend.
I'm using the patch mentioned above.
I am also using ADW instead of TouchWiz, which seems to help quite a bit.

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How beneficial is it to do this? Should I wait for better ROMs? I am nervous about rooting my device as many are defective after a week or two and need shipped back.

[Q] So Much Information!!! Brains exploding! Assist!

When I found out that 2.2 wasnt coming out from this phone I decided that I would root the phone and load a 2.2 ROM, etc. etc. So I started researching all of these about 2 days ago... and for the past 2 days I have read so much information on this that I am now currently so mixed up and lost. There are soooo many different ROMs, different ways to do this, that, etc. I see some people do one thing that it works great, another person do the exact same thing and they havent the same luck.
Even when getting ready to just root the phone, I found an awesome post that had great information... but, then when I looked at it the post was from 7 months ago and in the N1 forums. So, I started to 2nd guess.
I suppose basically what Im in need of is possibly a normal/basic recommendation to get moving on this... Would a possible recommendation be to root the phone with the 1 click root being run through a file manager, then create a nandroid backup, then go with something popular like Cyanogen6 RC1? Its just that mod -seems- to be what a good bit of people have, and problems seem limited on it. But then again, ive read about 10 other ROMs that appear to be just as good, and people like just as well... so agian, this choice leaves me frozen as well.
Im just so overwhelmed with information ive just about frozen up... I think it need to bring it back to a basic simple plan to get moving on this. Everything I read in these forums sounds so awesome and just plain ole fun.... but like I said im currently frozen/lost. Please help if my request isnt too much...
Thanks! Any help with this will definitely melt this horrid ice!!!

Use this to root: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=753910
Just do as it says and follow directions. I rooted both of my brother's phones this way. It works.
Then do as you were thinking: nandroid then install CM6 RC1. It will probably be your best bet for a solid 2.2 experience.

here's what I posted on my carriers facebook page. I kept things simple and to the point, and the point was to install 2.2 on a hero.
1. go to settings, applications and check allow installation from unknown sources.
2. install bar code scanner from the market if you don't have it.
3. scan the qr code from here: http://bit.ly/d1f0RN
4. download and install the app
5. open universal androot and click root
6. go to the market and download rom manager
7. open rom manager and click flash clockwork mod recovery
8. click backup current rom (you can always restore your backup later to go back to exactly how your phone was)
to load the rom after rooting:
1. download both the rom and google apps from http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=755795
2. copy the zip files to your sd card
3. open rom manager and click install rom from sd card
4. choose the rom file you copied to the sd card and click add zip, then choose the google apps file you downloaded earlier. Click ok and choose backup current rom and wipe data.
5. Enjoy android 2.2 on your Hero!!
(be careful restoring stuff using mybackup, open source roms and htc roms don't store data the same way. applications are safe to restore but system settings can potentially break things requiring you to wipe and reload again)

Not because it is my root method, but I would actually recommend using my root method and following all of the steps. It has you flash a custom recovery and patched boot.img so you keep full root via adb.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=694572

CM6 is the ONLY 2.2 ROM for the Hero at this point. But know that it doesn't have much of the Sprint/CDMA or HTC SenseUI functionality and stuff that you're used to from your current phone....like updating Profile and PRL; Sprint Navigation/Football/Nascar/etc.; your Contacts, Dialer, Messaging, and some other menus will be a little different....that's just a few things off the top of my head.
So if you kinda LIKE the way your phone is now (except maybe for some lag/slowness), CM6 won't be a very similar ROM. But you won't know unless you try it out Just offering some helpful info. Good luck -- we're here to help.

I have not found a 2.2 FroYo that I like for the Hero, it's rooted and running Fresh 2.3.3
http://geekfor.me/new-release/fresh-hero-233/

Awesome... the community here is absolutely incredible. Although I am literally tryin my best to read the ****in manual, I continue to fear that im reading something too old or outdated, or that there is something newer (easier) that I should be doing instead. I did the rooting with the 1click which was so simple... I cant believe I even spent that much time on it.
Thinking next the nandroid/recovery image thing would be a breeze, but it appears to almost be the hardest step. I see on most posts that they always tend to mention Nandroid for backups - is there a particular reason that I should use that one? Some other ones appear to be easier, but not as interesting or fun. However, im fearfully coming across a lack of exact guides that explain the process.
I truly think that once I can get the recovery image done, and I can start trying out other ROMs and such... this will become too much fun. But again, im getting so mixed up by should i do this, that, or maybe this... or wait, is that too old of information?
Regardless, thanks for all the help!

Download ROM Manager from the Market. From ROM Manager you can flash ClockworkMod recovery or Flash Alternate Recovery (I prefer this option RA Recovery) there is a newer relase but this works fine.
You can then reboot and go into recovery, back up your system as it is right now, that way you can always go back to the basic root version that you have right now. That my friend is a Nandriod back up. now you can install a ROM of your choice, once it is installed and functioning the way you like make a Nandriod back up of it, that way you always have a good platform to start from if anything isn't playing nice.

saltyclams said:
When I found out that 2.2 wasnt coming out from this phone I decided that I would root the phone and load a 2.2 ROM, etc. etc. So I started researching all of these about 2 days ago... and for the past 2 days I have read so much information on this that I am now currently so mixed up and lost. There are soooo many different ROMs, different ways to do this, that, etc. I see some people do one thing that it works great, another person do the exact same thing and they havent the same luck.
Even when getting ready to just root the phone, I found an awesome post that had great information... but, then when I looked at it the post was from 7 months ago and in the N1 forums. So, I started to 2nd guess.
I suppose basically what Im in need of is possibly a normal/basic recommendation to get moving on this... Would a possible recommendation be to root the phone with the 1 click root being run through a file manager, then create a nandroid backup, then go with something popular like Cyanogen6 RC1? Its just that mod -seems- to be what a good bit of people have, and problems seem limited on it. But then again, ive read about 10 other ROMs that appear to be just as good, and people like just as well... so agian, this choice leaves me frozen as well.
Im just so overwhelmed with information ive just about frozen up... I think it need to bring it back to a basic simple plan to get moving on this. Everything I read in these forums sounds so awesome and just plain ole fun.... but like I said im currently frozen/lost. Please help if my request isnt too much...
Thanks! Any help with this will definitely melt this horrid ice!!!
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I know exactly what you mean. I've rooted my Hero the day the universal 1 click came out,but as yet have been reading everything I can on which new Rom to install first.
I went out and bought a new 16 gig sd card for more storage as well. I've been trying to read up on how and what is the best way to do all of the various partitions on it cause some say to just have a ext 2 partition,and others say have a ext3/4 partitions on it.Unfortunately I haven't found a easy way to make this happen except by using the FroydVillain 1.4.3 rom and I don't know if it will work with a cdma Sprint Hero or not yet.
I love the phone,and want to upgrade it to the best stable over clocked rom that will allow me to use it for everyday usage,but it doesn't look like it is going to easy as rooting the damn thing was. Seems to me that you need to be a programmer in Linux to make it work the best
I hate posting a bunch of neewb questions about it but I guess I will
Mac

Awesome! Okay perfect... it worked perfect! I know have CyanogenMod running - yeah, it def different. Seems like it will take some time to get used too. Esp since its so far from SenseUI off the bat... err well, just the way that it handles things and such.
I will definitely give it a fair shot before I even try out some other ones... but I def want to try to use one of those Fresh Roms as well.
Thanks a ton for all the help! Most appreciated!

Newbie here

Hey guys,
I am new to flashing and rooting and stuff and am needing some help with all this. I'm kinda getting lost in the forums, reading all this stuff I have a stock Vibrant that i want to root and put a Froyo rom on it. I am currently on 2.1 of course. Can anyone kinda guide me through this?
Thanks!

I would suggest starting here:
Vibrant Guides
And here:
Newb Guide
Get the basics and understand what you will be doing. These guides can help you allot. If then you still don't understand then come back with a more specific question.
Good luck and have fun!

everything is here hxxp://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=732458 (change xx for tt). read, its good for you

Thanks guys, I'm going to have to read this more carefully apparently. Let me ask this before i do anything to the phone. What backup program should i get if i need to restore it back to stock everything? I want to make sure i have that done before i try any of this. I've done Iphones and stuff, unlocking them and jailbreaking them, those were a piece of cake, but never done a custom rom on an android phone before, nor have i ever rooted one. so im kinda nervous at all this

you should make a nandroid backup, that will be a failsafe but your lifesaver will be odin. when you think you bricked your phone it will rise from the grave. i love odin

sisco22 said:
Thanks guys, I'm going to have to read this more carefully apparently. Let me ask this before i do anything to the phone. What backup program should i get if i need to restore it back to stock everything? I want to make sure i have that done before i try any of this. I've done Iphones and stuff, unlocking them and jailbreaking them, those were a piece of cake, but never done a custom rom on an android phone before, nor have i ever rooted one. so im kinda nervous at all this
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Use Odin to get back to Stock. The Bible in the Development thread has the links for Odin download, also the links for the stock android ROMs to odin back to. Make sure you can get into the Download mode before doing anything. Especially using your hardware keys. (to verify that your phone is not hardware locked). If it is you have to install the JI6 to get the hardware key issue fixed.
Also read the wiki page http://forum.xda-developers.com/wiki/index.php?title=Samsung_Galaxy_S_SGH-T959

my noob guide (signature) has videos... you can use your pc (ODIN) and have a rooted 2.2 phone in like 2 minutes!

sisco22 said:
Hey guys,
I am new to flashing and rooting and stuff and am needing some help with all this. I'm kinda getting lost in the forums, reading all this stuff I have a stock Vibrant that i want to root and put a Froyo rom on it. I am currently on 2.1 of course. Can anyone kinda guide me through this?
Thanks!
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Hey bud. If you need some visual help, I should have my videos up by tonight and ready for viewing tomorrow morning. I've dubbed it my choose your own samsung vibrant adventure, so hopefully you can see what it looks like and get your questions answered.

thanks guys, the videos are a big help. 2 things that im trying to find is the Odin download and the Nandroid download. Can't seem to find a link for those.

^ the noob guide has a link to download ODIN (and the files needed).
The ALT METHOD listed is Froyo with root already enabled... doesnt get much easier! It's in my signature, or the sticky in the Q&A section.
Also, to clarify, once you use ODIN and flash this (which gives you froyo+root) you can download Rom Manager from the market.... you use it to instal clockwork recovery.... you use clockwork recovery to make a nandroid backup of your system. You can't do this until you have root.

This link should get you to where you can download what you need:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=771111

^ to even make it THAT much easier.... here is the thread that I was referencing (and is in the sticky)
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=799105

s15274n said:
^ to even make it THAT much easier.... here is the thread that I was referencing (and is in the sticky)
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=799105
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Thanks! I was looking at it and i found this link http://forum.xda-developers.com/sho...ost in all this stuff haha! its alot of info.

^ please read both sticky's in my signature before you proceed. If you read those, this is very straight-forward.
You would need to root and download rom manager
install clockwork recovery
move the .zip to sdcard/ (internal memory)
reboot into recovery
flash the file
reboot
but please read my guide... if it doesnt make it obvious, please let me know what needs to be updated.

s15274n said:
^ please read both sticky's in my signature before you proceed. If you read those, this is very straight-forward.
You would need to root and download rom manager
install clockwork recovery
move the .zip to sdcard/ (internal memory)
reboot into recovery
flash the file
reboot
but please read my guide... if it doesnt make it obvious, please let me know what needs to be updated.
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Thanks for your help! I finally understand all of it. Apparently the Flash Clockworks didn't install correctly...so when i tried to open the zip it would open. I installed Axura on it just now and it looks like its running smoothly! Thanks for everyone's help and sticking with me!

Froyo Update Won't Install

I have the Samsung Fascinate and I recently rooted it to get all the wonderful benefits that come with rooting.
I downloaded the leaked Froyo update, renamed it "update.zip" and put it in my sd card folder in order to update.
I then turned off my phone and pushed the power button plus the volume up and down until I got to the boot screen. I kept getting an error saying it couldn't verify the package (or something along those lines) and then it sent me to a screen with the triangle, exclamation point and the little droid guy.
I also tried using Rom Manager but the same thing happened.
I hear you are supposed to use Odin, but I am running on a mac and Odin is a windows application.
Please help me, I'm desperate to get the Froyo update on my device.
Thanks in advance.

Yikes u didn't do any research at all did you?? U can't use Odin on Mac....and u need it. Do u even have cwm? Probably not since u didn't Odin. U need to Odin cwm...Make a backup...Odin eb01 modem...flash rom. Update.zip is not correct...u don't rename .zip roms...you flash them via cwm. Not trying to bash u....but you are way off...and getting help via forums will b tough.
You need to go to irc and be polite and find some help there. Someone should hopefully be able to help you...I will b on eventually.
sent from my vanilla voodoo fascinate

I did my research but if I'm not literate with how or what a CWM is or how to use it, that doesn't mean I didn't do my research.
But are you telling me I can't install the update without a windows computer?
I have access to one where I am but I would rather know all the steps before I get on someone else's computer and start trying to figure it out there.
I looked through all 50 or so pages of the Froyo leaked thread and I saw a few people who understood all these things, but if I don't understand and there isn't a tutorial it makes it harder for me to accomplish my goal.

Can your phone boot up?
Someone varify my directions.
This might work if u can get into download mode. U need to find all the links urself since I'm on tapatalk.
First off...find a pc. Without one you can't do anything. Put ur eb01 rom on sdcard for later. Instal the 32 bit or 64 bit Samsung drivers depending on ur pc. For many..its the 32 bit. Then get Odin. U will need to find a link to cwm...if I'm not mistaking there is one on like the 2nd or 3rd page in android development section...will say updated cwmq for dj05 or dl09 or something like that. Find directions of how to use Odin...but simply place the cwm.tar file in the pda section on Odin...then click start. When that's done...u should make a backup...however...u may not b able to boot up because of what u have already done. U may try odining the eb01 modem. Once u have that done...hold up down and power to get I to your new updated cwm. From there click instal zip from sdcard...and flash ur eb01 rom of choice....wipe wipe wipe...reboot system.
Again...this may not work since I'm not possitive what u already did to ur phone by not doing your research. Like I already said...be polite and head over to irc. .someone will have more time than I do to fix ur phone.
sent from my vanilla voodoo fascinate

You obviously didn't research. There is an eb01 walkthrough on fascinate development section...impossible to miss. If ur incompetent at following step by step directions u should not be Modding your phone. Seek help and knowledge before doing anything...u don't want a 600 dollar paper clip do you?
sent from my vanilla voodoo fascinate

kyfredrickson said:
You obviously didn't research. There is an eb01 walkthrough on fascinate development section...impossible to miss. If ur incompetent at following step by step directions u should not be Modding your phone. Seek help and knowledge before doing anything...u don't want a 600 dollar paper clip do you?
sent from my vanilla voodoo fascinate
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How would you use it as a paper clip? A paper weight I see, but not a paper clip?!?!

TheFake said:
I did my research but if I'm not literate with how or what a CWM is or how to use it, that doesn't mean I didn't do my research.
But are you telling me I can't install the update without a windows computer?
I have access to one where I am but I would rather know all the steps before I get on someone else's computer and start trying to figure it out there.
I looked through all 50 or so pages of the Froyo leaked thread and I saw a few people who understood all these things, but if I don't understand and there isn't a tutorial it makes it harder for me to accomplish my goal.
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Not to be a ****...but the first thing you learn when reading is how to flash the modem using ODIN...so, yeah....
Since you've f'd up the phone already. Download the restore to stock files and odin. Go to someone with a PC and follow the restore directions to the T. DO NOT FALTER.

kyfredrickson said:
You obviously didn't research. There is an eb01 walkthrough on fascinate development section...impossible to miss. If ur incompetent at following step by step directions u should not be Modding your phone. Seek help and knowledge before doing anything...u don't want a 600 dollar paper clip do you?
sent from my vanilla voodoo fascinate
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No, but I also don't see the need for the disrespectful way you are treating someone looking for help.
Not everyone out there is as "smart" as you may be with modding but that's what this forum is for. Questions and answers, not smartass replies that don't help at all.
I appreciate the other posters response because at least he gave me information with no attitude. If you want to help someone, help them, don't demean them and offer a little advice.

jenisiz said:
Not to be a ****...but the first thing you learn when reading is how to flash the modem using ODIN...so, yeah....
Since you've f'd up the phone already. Download the restore to stock files and odin. Go to someone with a PC and follow the restore directions to the T. DO NOT FALTER.
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The phone is working fine, if not better than before.

TheFake said:
The phone is working fine, if not better than before.
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Honestly, you haven't done anything to your phone yet, so it shouldn't be running any differently than it was before.
There is a way to push CWM using ADB and Terminal on a Mac, but you would still need Odin to flash the modem, so might as well do everything that way. Download this Odin package from Android Central, and flash that using the PDA box in Odin. After that, you can flash a different 2.2 ROM or theme if you like

The only thing I am having trouble with is how to "flash" something.

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The only thing I am having trouble with is how to "flash" something.
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Go to the Eb01 modem thread and read it. They will tell you how to "flash". You download the modem, plug in your phone, select PDA in ODIN and hit write or whatever...
It's as easy as reading and searching,
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=948679
Not searching for things will get you flamed, ignored and banned (If not reading the rules). The reason I suggested you flash back to complete stock is because until you know what flashing is, difference between a ROM and a Radio...you are in dangerous territory of bricking your phone.

Guys, I'm also new to this flashing thing, but I've used Odin before and have read all the steps in the EB01 thread. My question is: can I install EB01 on top of stock, unmodded EA28 (which is the latest Eclair from Verizon) without wiping my data? All sets of instructions I've read include wiping, wiping, wiping... But since the new ROM is supposedly signed with the same Samsung/Verizon key as my current ROM, why shouldn't I be able to just install it on top, without wiping my data?
Or is it that because the guy who posted the ROM actually modified it, it's no longer signed with the Samsung or Verizon key?
I searched, but didn't find. I think the answer to this may be relevant to the original poster of this thread too, that's why I'm posting here.

thetodor said:
Guys, I'm also new to this flashing thing, but I've used Odin before and have read all the steps in the EB01 thread. My question is: can I install EB01 on top of stock, unmodded EA28 (which is the latest Eclair from Verizon) without wiping my data? All sets of instructions I've read include wiping, wiping, wiping... But since the new ROM is supposedly signed with the same Samsung/Verizon key as my current ROM, why shouldn't I be able to just install it on top, without wiping my data?
Or is it that because the guy who posted the ROM actually modified it, it's no longer signed with the Samsung or Verizon key?
I searched, but didn't find. I think the answer to this may be relevant to the original poster of this thread too, that's why I'm posting here.
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It's always recommended to wipe. Those that don't are typically those who end up complaining about bad battery life, force close loops and utter suckageness...now flashing let's say super clean 2.0 to 2.2...that's fine bypassing the wipe, but imho that's the only exception.

thetodor said:
Guys, I'm also new to this flashing thing, but I've used Odin before and have read all the steps in the EB01 thread. My question is: can I install EB01 on top of stock, unmodded EA28 (which is the latest Eclair from Verizon) without wiping my data? All sets of instructions I've read include wiping, wiping, wiping... But since the new ROM is supposedly signed with the same Samsung/Verizon key as my current ROM, why shouldn't I be able to just install it on top, without wiping my data?
Or is it that because the guy who posted the ROM actually modified it, it's no longer signed with the Samsung or Verizon key?
I searched, but didn't find. I think the answer to this may be relevant to the original poster of this thread too, that's why I'm posting here.
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You can install without wiping (saying from experience) as long as you dont mind problems later. I had plenty of force close problems and widget problems when I didnt wipe data.
Most ROM here are modified, to help protect the person who leaked it.

Interesting. Do we know the cause of those problems? How come no such problems exist when you update OTA with a similar official build?
I'm a developer and it seems weird to me that if you're starting with a stock ROM and upgrading to another stock ROM, apps will have issues. Or are the issues due to the fact that the newer ROM is still buggy (and that's probably why they haven't officially released it yet)?
Also, it doesn't hurt to try, right? And if I do get problems, THEN I can just do a simple wipe and start off clean. But if I don't have huge problems, I don't have to go through the trouble of restoring all my apps and settings, logging into everything again, etc.

it's not hard to restore apps/data, use titanium backup.
go ahead and try it without wiping, just do a full nandroid backup first. then if it sucks or you get funny errors you can revert really easily. I'd wipe with a major change like this, but if you're determined to try it there's really no big downside. just back up!
I ran EB01 over the weekend, didn't like a couple of things and was back up and running on DL09 in no time when I decided to switch back.

Its recommended to wipe but I've seen it a lot where u OK not wiping... u can try without and it u get bootloop just do a wipe. Like posted...titanium backup is ur bff when I mod.
Also about the post about me being rude.. I gave u the info u need...just telling you to research. U said u did, and I pointed out u didn't. If your not going to take the time to learn what ur doing...then expect help ASAP...expect ppl to b a bit rude. Ppl are welcome to help...but if u do something dumb without research...expect people to tell you.
Glad u got it working ok
sent from my vanilla voodoo fascinate

Just FYI everyone, I was able to to install Froyo without wiping and everything works fine. (except that my home screen shortcuts and maybe even some of my settings got reset... which was one of the things I was trying to avoid... but whatever.). The only issue I've run into so far is that Google Maps hangs for many seconds every once in a while. But I reset its internal cache and it's better now. All other apps are working fine.

umm "TheFake" is obviously a troll
nobody is that stupid, and his screen name gives it away

[Q] about to reset my phone

been having some problems with my phone lately and just wondered if anyone else has encountered these. first off it seems to stop playing any media files whatsoever. i have a bunch of music on it and the player just cycles through and says its not supported. youtube always brings up the error message that the video can not be played. i turn the phone off and on and it works after that but around 24 hours later i'm back to the same thing. also tried using kies to download the 2.2 update but that sucks and doesn't work. would like to root but have no idea where to begin and am afraid i'll screw the phone up. does anyone have an explanation as to what my problem can be and the best way to get 2.2 on this phone?

1st things 1st, Go to the noob guide by S15274N in the Gen section. It has all the info you need. Read it..........
Here is basically what you will do:
Make sure you have the Samsung USB drivers loaded on your computer (found in the noob guide)
Download superonclick to Root the phone (on to the computer)
On the phone download rom manager (from the apps store)
Follow the directions from superoneclick (look at unlockcr.com good how to video)
After you root the phone then decide what to load as far as a custom ROM. I would Try the Trigger or Axura, they both very stable Download on to the computer
Then hook up the phone on to the computer Make sure you connect the usb
(the pulldown at the top) make usb debugging is clicked.
Load the rom on to the Internal sd card and then go to the Rom manager and click reboot into into recovery.. install it wait 15 mins to install and you are good to go
READ the NOOB guide it is complete this is just an outline.
good luck

well i'll give it a read and see if i have enough balls to do it. thanks

ndavis_28 said:
been having some problems with my phone lately and just wondered if anyone else has encountered these. first off it seems to stop playing any media files whatsoever. i have a bunch of music on it and the player just cycles through and says its not supported. youtube always brings up the error message that the video can not be played. i turn the phone off and on and it works after that but around 24 hours later i'm back to the same thing. also tried using kies to download the 2.2 update but that sucks and doesn't work. would like to root but have no idea where to begin and am afraid i'll screw the phone up. does anyone have an explanation as to what my problem can be and the best way to get 2.2 on this phone?
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I'm having these same exact problams and it is very frustrating. Also the video recorder will stop working I found.
So you are using 2.1? I've gone up to 2.2 using kies. I can't remember when I went to 2.2, but my guess is this has been happening since then.
In the past week I've been on the phone way too long with Tmobile support. They say that they have never heard of this (apparently I'm not the only one though) and had me try a master reset. That didn't work and the only solution seems to be to reboot the phone. Am I the only one who thinks having to reboot within 24 hours is ridiculous?
So now that they have sent me 3 phones, they directed me to Samsung which wanted to try the same Master Reset. I know that will only temporarily fix the problem so the next step is to send the phone in. How is that suppose to work? Have no phone for a week.
I guess I could ask Tmobile to do it for me and give me a loaner, but I think it is time to go with a custom ROM.
So is anyone else having the problems we are having? We can't be the only two. Is the stock 2.2 just bad and I will be better served with a custom ROM?
I was hoping to avoid this, but the phone is pretty much crap to me now anyway, so I guess what can I lose?

pmiller said:
So is anyone else having the problems we are having? We can't be the only two. Is the stock 2.2 just bad and I will be better served with a custom ROM?
I was hoping to avoid this, but the phone is pretty much crap to me now anyway, so I guess what can I lose?
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IMO stock from samsung have never been very impressive especially when compared to all the custom roms out here. The simplest roms to flash will be the kb1 based roms such as Trigger, Axura or Bionix (in no particular order).
Your phone will feel completely different and you will likely gain a new found appreciation for it, so go flash a custom rom

shreddintyres said:
IMO stock from samsung have never been very impressive especially when compared to all the custom roms out here. The simplest roms to flash will be the kb1 based roms such as Trigger, Axura or Bionix (in no particular order).
Your phone will feel completely different and you will likely gain a new found appreciation for it, so go flash a custom rom
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Thanks for the advice. After reading through the steps and getting lost at only the 2nd step of rooting, I think I'll just stick to stock and deal with the problems.
Not ideal, but I'm just not in the mood to put that much into a phone anymore. Maybe I'm just lazy, but I'd like to have a program that will do all the steps of getting a new ROM on my device. I feel overwhelmed by having to maintain a ROM.

Its not as hard as you think. Just use superoneclick to get root access, download rom manager , download the rom you want on your sd then reboot into recovery from root manager and chose your rom from the sd.
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pmiller said:
Thanks for the advice. After reading through the steps and getting lost at only the 2nd step of rooting, I think I'll just stick to stock and deal with the problems.
Not ideal, but I'm just not in the mood to put that much into a phone anymore. Maybe I'm just lazy, but I'd like to have a program that will do all the steps of getting a new ROM on my device. I feel overwhelmed by having to maintain a ROM.
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Give this a look
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=954509