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T-Mobile US Problems

Situation:
I am w/ an HD, on T-Mobile, in the US.
I have the $9.99 / month 100 mb data plan (cuz I have wifi about 85% of the time).
I have unlimited messaging (of all kinds) on my plan.
I can connect to edge and browse on it just fine.
Another person on my family plan has working mms no problem.
I put in a friends SIM and it worked straight away, he used mine and it wouldn't work.
I have already tried getting my SIM card replaced.
already tried two cabs from these threads:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=394735
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=395203
Problem:
NO MMS. I really can't figure it out. It seems that no matter what I do, it just never works. Sending gets to 99% (w/ the little icon at the top), but it never ends up going through.
When someone sends me a message...I just don't ever get any notification at all.
I have tried stock roms, cooked roms, I make sure to set my carrier to T-Mobile US, I have checked the internet as well as called CC for the server settings, and even just had my SIM replaced today...still no luck.
Anything welcome,
Thanks,
Jim.

Hi, I use Touch HD with T-Mobile, my sim accoubt is 'pay as you go' prepaid , I dont have data as my account has only MMS and it works great without any problems, after flashing my device with Dutty 1.7 the automitic configuration settings configured my phone but MMS didn't work and after checking the settings I discovered that the proxy is missing on the MMS access point setting and entering it, MMS worked again like charm.
Buy the way i am new here in US and when I go to T-mobile and ask about data plan they give me a Verizon prosure with alot of data plans and the cheapest is 39 $ !!! please let me know the details of your plan and what should I tell them when I go there in order to get the same 9 $ plan you have.
Thanks for the help

jim256 said:
I am w/ an HD, on T-Mobile, in the US.
I have the $9.99 / month 100 mb data plan (cuz I have wifi about 85% of the time).
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I have called T-Mobile several times to wee what my data usage is. Everythime they say ZERO.
I am on that same 9.99 plan and use Edge all the time. Have you ever checked your data usage? If you call don't give the secret away!

Everdog said:
I have called T-Mobile several times to wee what my data usage is. Everythime they say ZERO.
I am on that same 9.99 plan and use Edge all the time. Have you ever checked your data usage? If you call don't give the secret away!
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are you saying that you use the Tmobile data plan, but Tmobile can't tell?!!? I need to check this out. I'm on the $20 Unlimited package, but if that's the case, I'd totally switch to the $10

Everdog said:
I have called T-Mobile several times to wee what my data usage is. Everythime they say ZERO.
I am on that same 9.99 plan and use Edge all the time. Have you ever checked your data usage? If you call don't give the secret away!
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WOW what a lucky man you are!!
I will try right now! Could you please share with us what state you're in, the rom and radio you are on, and any other details?
Also...what proxy are you guys using? I have read that it needs to be DISabled...so that's what I have it to.
Thanks,
Jim.
EDIT: WOAH!! Just called and checked my data usage and they said I hadn't used any!!!!!!!!!! Billed or unbilled. THATS INSANE! Lol
I have only had a data plan for about 4 days, and only been using it for about 3 but....still. I would think it would take only 2 business days maximum to show up. Maybe I don't wanna get my phone fixed... lol I'd rather have unlimited data than limited data and mms. I know all the carrier extensions, I'll just email them maybe...
But I guess I am still going to go to the store and have them check out the mms

ahmadddd said:
...Buy the way i am new here in US and when I go to T-mobile and ask about data plan they give me a Verizon prosure with alot of data plans and the cheapest is 39 $ !!! please let me know the details of your plan and what should I tell them when I go there in order to get the same 9 $ plan you have...
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When you go to T-Mobile they give you a VERIZON brochure?
But, you just tell them that you have a regular flip phone or something (don't tell them you have a smart phone) and tell them that you want to sign up for the 100mb / month web2go internet plan. It is $9.99 / month. You can also do it over the internet (that's how I did it).
Thanks guys!
I REALLLY hope I can keep getting unlimited data for $10! (especially considering that T-Mobile's data is the slowest of all the carriers..)
Jim

I just called them and they said that for the past 3 months I've used no data, however the guy told me that $20 is the lowest plan.....? (I let it slip i have a smart phone, and he said that's the lowest for smart phones) So should I call back and tell them I have an old flip phone piece of garbage (for which they have a $10 plan) and will it still work no problem? (I'm gonna try it, but a 'yes' or 'no' would help)
Thanks, looking forward to saving my $10 a month

Svegetto said:
I just called them and they said that for the past 3 months I've used no data, however the guy told me that $20 is the lowest plan.....? (I let it slip i have a smart phone, and he said that's the lowest for smart phones) So should I call back and tell them I have an old flip phone piece of garbage (for which they have a $10 plan) and will it still work no problem? (I'm gonna try it, but a 'yes' or 'no' would help)
Thanks, looking forward to saving my $10 a month
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"yes"...lol yep that's what ya gotta do
The easiest way is to just log on to their site, change your phone to a razr or something, then add the web2go for $9.99 / month. Easy as that! That's what I did.
STILL NO MMS FOR ME THOUGH! UGH

jim256 said:
EDIT: WOAH!! Just called and checked my data usage and they said I hadn't used any!!!!!!!!!! Billed or unbilled. THATS INSANE! Lol
I have only had a data plan for about 4 days, and only been using it for about 3 but....still. I would think it would take only 2 business days maximum to show up. Maybe I don't wanna get my phone fixed... lol I'd rather have unlimited data than limited data and mms. I know all the carrier extensions, I'll just email them maybe...
But I guess I am still going to go to the store and have them check out the mms
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Now, any time I call I say, "I don't use the Interent stuff, and I want to make sure I don't have any data usage".
I really don't want them to catch on!

HAHA, yes, when I called, I too was very selective about my choice of words. But I'm gonna try and change the data plan later today through site as planned and sugested above (great minds....). I'll let you know if it works for me and if afterwords I can still send MMS since maybe it's the $10 plan that causes the problem.

Svegetto said:
HAHA, yes, when I called, I too was very selective about my choice of words. But I'm gonna try and change the data plan later today through site as planned and sugested above (great minds....). I'll let you know if it works for me and if afterwords I can still send MMS since maybe it's the $10 plan that causes the problem.
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Great would love to hear from ya.
One thing I wanna interject though is that it didn't work for me even before I got the data plan...though that was also before I got my new sim hmm...

So 10 points to whoever tells me what the $10 plan is under on the Tmobile site (can't find it for my life; my phone is set as the V3 Razor)

Svegetto said:
So 10 points to whoever tells me what the $10 plan is under on the Tmobile site (can't find it for my life; my phone is set as the V3 Razor)
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Go to www.tmobile.com
Log in.
Click on the "Learn" link / tab at the top.
Click on the "Data and Web" link / button.
Click on the "Add Web2go" link / button under web2go (left).
Go under "Your current services" to click the link / button "change services".
Scroll down till you see something like this:
"Internet & E-mail
Line Level Services
Line level services apply to a particular line on your account.
Service
Description
Price per
month
Select
Services
HotSpot
Stay connected -- get Wi-Fi access on your laptop, phone, and select cameras and gaming devices at places you already go, including Starbucks, Borders Books and Music stores, airports such as DFW, LAX and SFO, Barnes & Noble bookstores and many more.
Terms and conditions
$9.99
100 MB Web for phones
Stay connected when you are on the move, with Web access on your phone or your T-Mobile phone.
$9.99
50 MB Web + 200 Messages for phones
Get 50 MB of Web access, bundled with any 200 domestic messages. Includes 50 MB Web access and 200 domestic text, picture, e-mail, or instant messages
$9.99
100 MB Web + Unlimited Messages for phones
Get 100 MB of Web access, bundled with unlimited domestic messages. Includes 100 MB Web access and Unlimited domestic text, picture, e-mail, and instant messages
$19.95"
Click the desired checkbox, then click the "change services" link / button at the bottom!
Jim.

Thanks jim, so I was in the right place, you just can't have the Razor selected as you phone. Apparently different phones have different packages. It took me like 6 tries before I got a phone that let me change my internet, while all the others only let me add the hotspots (I almost gave up). I finally choose the Sony Ericsson TM506 - Emerald which let me change the data plan and besides the 100mb for $10, it also had a 50mb with 200 texts for $10 (which is obviously the better choice, unless you need more than 200 texts).
So in the end, I swapped from $20 for unlimited data + $5 for 400texts to $10 for 200 texts with 50mb(unlimited on HD).....not a bad deal.
again, thanks for the help jim

Svegetto said:
Thanks jim, so I was in the right place, you just can't have the Razor selected as you phone. Apparently different phones have different packages. It took me like 6 tries before I got a phone that let me change my internet, while all the others only let me add the hotspots (I almost gave up). I finally choose the Sony Ericsson TM506 - Emerald which let me change the data plan and besides the 100mb for $10, it also had a 50mb with 200 texts for $10 (which is obviously the better choice, unless you need more than 200 texts).
So in the end, I swapped from $20 for unlimited data + $5 for 400texts to $10 for 200 texts with 50mb(unlimited on HD).....not a bad deal.
again, thanks for the help jim
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Oh dang sorry. I so almost told you what phone I had selected but didn't bother.
I too saw the $10 for 200 txts and 50 mb, but since I already have unlimited messaging...the 100mb was obviously of course the better deal for me.
Glad you got it working!
I'm gonna call again right now and chk my data usage just in case...used a ton over the past 2 days or so :S
Jim
EDIT: They said that for the first month, they are unable to track / check your usage. Keep in mind! After that, you can check update anytime anyday. But up until it has been on there for one full month / billing cycle, they can't tell you how much you have used!!
They did say though that they will start over my 100mb on the 13th because they were unable to check how much I have used, and if I go ever between now and then they will credit it all back so that is awesome.

I've had the HD for about 3months now (with the Data Plan) and when I called and checked, they said 0mb used each month (which is, of course, wrong, but great) so I'm hoping that it will remain that way, but just to be sure I'll make calls to check.

i just pay the 20 bucks for the internet but i also pay for unlimited text and mms messages

wingtytn said:
i just pay the 20 bucks for the internet but i also pay for unlimited text and mms messages
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I would definitely recommend ditching that.
OK. Update.
Called up support again, wanted to add to my "trouble ticket" that I had submitted that my tmomail.net account wasn't working at all. I couldn't even email plain text to my tmomail.net address. Also wanted to update them with the fact that when some carriers send me a pic msg, they get a reply back saying that I rejected it.
The result was that I was finally transferred all the way up to 'advanced'. This is supposedly the highest. I had already spoken w/ tier 1, tier 2, and tier3 before, and once transferred to advanced I had everything fixed within about 20 minutes!
Thanks,
Jim.

I'm having trouble getting email over EDGE. It works fine over wifi. Does anyone know how to fix this?

Dawei94 said:
I'm having trouble getting email over EDGE. It works fine over wifi. Does anyone know how to fix this?
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What errors are you encountering over EDGE with email?

Proxy internet for HD2 on T-mobile?

My sister really needs a new phone and is with T-mob USA. I was telling her to get the HD2 when it comes out, and she really likes the phone but she doesn't want to pay for the added internet plan. When I had my Shadow (1st gen) I was able to use the t-mobile lower internet plan (t-zones?) and using proxy server info I was able to use the internet almost 100% normal. There were only a few apps that were odd.
What are the chances that since this is still a WinMo phone it will have that ability? Is this something that can be figured out before the phone comes out? Also, if it did work, would it access 3g data?
Thanks for any help/info.
Nick

When the HD2 launches it will have a required data pack just like all other windows, blackberry's and android devices currently do. If a discount is recieved on the device then the data pack (minimum $25/month) is required, paying full retail price is the only way not to have it. T-zones is no longer offered by itself for $5.99/month unless your plan is a grandfathered plan that supports it but would only be able to be used if the phone was purchased at retail.

NickPDX said:
My sister really needs a new phone and is with T-mob USA. I was telling her to get the HD2 when it comes out, and she really likes the phone but she doesn't want to pay for the added internet plan. When I had my Shadow (1st gen) I was able to use the t-mobile lower internet plan (t-zones?) and using proxy server info I was able to use the internet almost 100% normal. There were only a few apps that were odd.
What are the chances that since this is still a WinMo phone it will have that ability? Is this something that can be figured out before the phone comes out? Also, if it did work, would it access 3g data?
Thanks for any help/info.
Nick
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i use tmobile in uk if the proxy box is ticked my mail dosent load.

T-Mobile USA now uses the device IMEI for data plans
The proxy trick does not work anymore on Tmobile USA, they now use the phone's IMEI number to verify that the phone is on the correct data package. It works for about 24 hours now then when you try and access the internet you are sent to a screen to add the correct data package.

Proxy internet for HD2 on T-Mobile
I have T-mobile with the $5.99 T-Zones. I used it on the DASH and am now using it on a Touch VIVA. If I buy the HD2 from T-Mobile with no contract are they still going to force me to get a data plan or will my T-Zones stop working. I want to keep my T-Zones and may have to get an ulocked phone.

NickPDX said:
My sister really needs a new phone and is with T-mob USA. I was telling her to get the HD2 when it comes out, and she really likes the phone but she doesn't want to pay for the added internet plan. When I had my Shadow (1st gen) I was able to use the t-mobile lower internet plan (t-zones?) and using proxy server info I was able to use the internet almost 100% normal. There were only a few apps that were odd.
What are the chances that since this is still a WinMo phone it will have that ability? Is this something that can be figured out before the phone comes out? Also, if it did work, would it access 3g data?
Thanks for any help/info.
Nick
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I'm currently with AT&T and about to switch to T-mobile when the HD2 comes out. When I spoke to the T-mobile rep., (trying to get him to set me up on the cheap data plans instead) He told me T-mobile can tell what phone you are using and know if it is on the correct plan. He also stated that if the phone is unlocked then you can trick their systems into letting you keep your old plan. Now again, I dont know if this is true or not, I am about to switch...hopefully this month, I'll find out then.
With AT&T, I have an old data plan (unlimited internet, 1500 text, 200 MMS) and I pay $19.95/month. they have never made me change my data plan and I am using the Tilt2. If you go through the priemer business website to upgrade your phone, they dont give you the $50 discount and you get to keep your data plan unchanged....all other channels force the upgrade with an updated data plan. Again, the only way around that is to buy your phone from someone else, unlocked, or have warranty dept. swap out your phone for a different model. My nephew has the $10 data plan and is now using the Tilt2 on it via warranty swapping out his phone for a different model (the Tilt2).
I know on the AT&T service you do get the 3g speeds, so I assume it will be the same for T-Mobile (but then again assuming may not be the best way to go). Hope that helped

I am pretty certain that my sister has a grandfathered in 5.99 T-zones package too. I am hoping that she can get it and use this way. The email not loading problem that adamo mentioned though doesn't sound good. Do the other internet based things work ok?

NickPDX said:
I am pretty certain that my sister has a grandfathered in 5.99 T-zones package too. I am hoping that she can get it and use this way. The email not loading problem that adamo mentioned though doesn't sound good. Do the other internet based things work ok?
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from what I was told, everything should work correctly and at the correct speed, as long as the phone is unlocked. The cell phone service providers don't seem to really offer different speeds at different rate plans like the cable internet companies do.

I had not seen your message from earlier ... we posted at the exact same time. Thanks though for your input. I will let her know. It seems like it is worth a try. Worst case scenario, she has a great phone but she has to use Wifi to check her mail and such.

NickPDX said:
I am pretty certain that my sister has a grandfathered in 5.99 T-zones package too. I am hoping that she can get it and use this way. The email not loading problem that adamo mentioned though doesn't sound good. Do the other internet based things work ok?
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every other site works u can download email via direct site.then i noticed o2 network has its proxy unticked so when i was using tmobile i unticked it.now i can download email auto.
there was on promotional offer in uk.£10 top up u get unlimited txt and web.i used it on my htc shift as modem for a few months tmobile has no complained about going over fair usage policy on web unlike other networks.

How can I make a mytouch3G to work with T-Mobile's BlackBerry data plan?

I know that a non-T-Mobile branded HTC Magic will work with the T-Mobile BlackBerry Plan; however, a T-Mobile branded can only work with T-Mobile's google plan.
How can I make the T-Mobile branded myTouch3G to work with T-Mobile Blackberry plan?
I tried to unlocked and rooted the myTouch3G, but still doesn't work with t-mobile blackberry plan. (Every time i start browsing, it will direct me to the data plan upgrade page.)
Can I fresh the Kernel or something to make it work?
Thanks

you know your posting this in the wrong section right?? try the q&a section next time... and as far as i know i dont think its possible.... have you tried flashing a non tmobile rom?? you may want to go check out the g1/dream forum..

sorry about the wrong section posting...
I tried on a non-Tmobile ROM, but still not working... but I just could not find the element that locks up on the T-Mobile branded phones.

Can't be done. T-Mobile knows your imei and sees it everytime you connect to the internet. That is why you get routed to the upgrade page. Short of changing your imei (which is illegal), you'll need to get the google plan.

Ok do this.
Open your blackberry take out the mother board and everythign screena dn all..
Then JAM that **** right into your myrtouch 3G and use about 10-20 slices of tape to hold everything together.
then get another strip of tape and put the battery in and tape it so it holds the everything in place.
Now trn on your blacktouch2G custom and it should work without a problem...
Although its useless you can just say swap your grandfather plan to your mytouch3g as the same price and you will be ok.

death1246 said:
Ok do this.
Open your blackberry take out the mother board and everythign screena dn all..
Then JAM that **** right into your myrtouch 3G and use about 10-20 slices of tape to hold everything together.
then get another strip of tape and put the battery in and tape it so it holds the everything in place.
Now trn on your blacktouch2G custom and it should work without a problem...
Although its useless you can just say swap your grandfather plan to your mytouch3g as the same price and you will be ok.
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Hysterical.

Blackberry plan
To give you an idea of how tmo's data plans work I'll break it down as I used to work for them. The blackberry plan adds two apn's to your profile on the switch. epc.tmobile.com and tmo.blackberry.net. This also adds a filter on the back end that will only allow a blackberry device to access the internet with this plan. There are two other plans that you can have on your account. Total internet and the android plan. Both of these add identical apn's to your profile on the switch. epc.tmobile.com, internet2.voicestream.com, and wap.voicestream.com. Once again, there will be a filter on the back end. If you try to use an android device with the total internet plan you will be able to browse the internet but not through any of the applications and the market will be out of your reach. The only way that you will get full functionality out of that lovely little phone is to add the appropriate android plan... sorry!

I may be in the minority, but I haven't had any problems with that. I just bought a MyTouch 3G off of craigslist and I currently own a BB 9700 with BIS through T-Mobile. When I bought the phone I popped in my SIM card, registered the phone with my Gmail account, and had no problems browsing the web and utilizing the Android Market. It's been about 3 days since I've been using the Mytouch and I have yet to have had to contact T-Mobile to change my plan.

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I may be in the minority, but I haven't had any problems with that. I just bought a MyTouch 3G off of craigslist and I currently own a BB 9700 with BIS through T-Mobile. When I bought the phone I popped in my SIM card, registered the phone with my Gmail account, and had no problems browsing the web and utilizing the Android Market. It's been about 3 days since I've been using the Mytouch and I have yet to have had to contact T-Mobile to change my plan.
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you're in the minority. my BIS data plan lasted 3 minutes (enough to get through activation) on the mytouch before i got routed to the upgrade page. stuff still works on wifi though.
just call and change your plan. costs the same unless you've got a grandfathered plan.

Interesting. I switched off the MT3G for the Bold 9700 on the day it came out. Lately I've had an itch to use Android, which I can't due to the plan. Oddly enough, however, when I put my SIM into my TouchPro2 (running Windows Mobile 6.5, of course) I get full internet as if I had the Total Internet package on there. I find that interesting, since there's supposed to be a filter. But I used my TouchPro for 3 days with no issue. I even used WMWifiTether to share the internet off to my iPod touch for Pandora/streaming podcasts. But soon as I put it into my MT3G, I can't get the activation done. I don't even get a short grace period, it's almost instant lock-out. But I can put it back in the TouchPro2 and there's no problem. And back into the BlackBerry and all my emails come in, my messages from BBM (which is the main reason I don't want to switch plans. As soon as u switch plans, your BB account is suspended, so emails to your @tmo.blackberry.net account bounce back, and BBM won't receive any messages, as well as PIN messages just hang in limbo, AFAIK).
SO, what's the deal here, is there an APN setting somewhere, or is it truly IMEI filtering? Would it be possible to plug the MT3G IMEI into the BIS management interface? I would guess not, since the first so many numbers of the IMEI determine the type of device, and they could limit it only to BlackBerry devices.

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Interesting. I switched off the MT3G for the Bold 9700 on the day it came out. Lately I've had an itch to use Android, which I can't due to the plan. Oddly enough, however, when I put my SIM into my TouchPro2 (running Windows Mobile 6.5, of course) I get full internet as if I had the Total Internet package on there. I find that interesting, since there's supposed to be a filter. But I used my TouchPro for 3 days with no issue. I even used WMWifiTether to share the internet off to my iPod touch for Pandora/streaming podcasts. But soon as I put it into my MT3G, I can't get the activation done. I don't even get a short grace period, it's almost instant lock-out. But I can put it back in the TouchPro2 and there's no problem. And back into the BlackBerry and all my emails come in, my messages from BBM (which is the main reason I don't want to switch plans. As soon as u switch plans, your BB account is suspended, so emails to your @tmo.blackberry.net account bounce back, and BBM won't receive any messages, as well as PIN messages just hang in limbo, AFAIK).
SO, what's the deal here, is there an APN setting somewhere, or is it truly IMEI filtering? Would it be possible to plug the MT3G IMEI into the BIS management interface? I would guess not, since the first so many numbers of the IMEI determine the type of device, and they could limit it only to BlackBerry devices.
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there's no way around it for the mytouch. my BIS plan worked on the iphone, but that's a phone they don't have control over. pretty sure once your mytouch registers with it's imei# on the network that tmobile detects it's on the "wrong plan" and gives you the upgrade message. not sure why though, since they are the same price. same thing happens w/ iphone on blackberry plan w/ at&t, except at&t doesn't completely block data like t-mobile does.
not really BIS's fault. would make no sense to register the imei on BIS. it's t-mobiles issue. they want everyone using a mytouch on a mytouch plan. i'm guessing because they get more money per subscription from google than they do with BB.

TP2 + BB data plan = no MMS??
flamingblue8z said:
Interesting. I switched off the MT3G for the Bold 9700 on the day it came out. Lately I've had an itch to use Android, which I can't due to the plan. Oddly enough, however, when I put my SIM into my TouchPro2 (running Windows Mobile 6.5, of course) I get full internet as if I had the Total Internet package on there. . .
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I've had the T-Mo $19.99/month BB BIS add-on for a long time but switched phones to the Touch Pro 2. I also get good internet speed - phone & SMS work well, too. Have you been able to send or receive MMS on the TP2 with your BB plan? I have not and was told by T-Mo (who offered to sell me a more expensive plan) that my TP2 sends MMS via the data plan and the two are incompatible. Bugs me that my kids' cheap camera phones send/receive MMS just fine without a data plan.

Thread closed
I'm closing this thread because it was posted in the wrong section.
I'll move it though but it should have been in the General, G1 Q&A or even Android Software and Hacking General but in this case I'll move it to General.
And to make it interesting for the OP, I will continue to block any efforts to open another thread (even if it is in the correct section because of rule #5.
To request for me to open this thread up I need the OP to send me the link to the post Thread merged/deleted/moved/locked!!! This is DEVELOPMENT section not General!!!!
Until then this is closed

Vibrant and NO data plan but 3G/E signal?

My wife fone does not subscribe to data plan. But sometimes, she got 3G/E signal display on the phone. Will Tmobile automatically add data plan to her phone? is she getting charged to browse the internet? Is there a way to disable this? Thanks.

nguyenmd said:
My wife fone does not subscribe to data plan. But sometimes, she got 3G/E signal display on the phone. Will Tmobile automatically add data plan to her phone? is she getting charged to browse the internet? Is there a way to disable this? Thanks.
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How did she get a plan without data? Its a requirement for the android devices.
I'm sure tmobile will automatically add it.
Yes they will charge. Either 30 bucks a month for per meg. I had someone that tried to do this with Verizon and he got a bill for 300 bucks.
You can turn sync off which will prevent it from going online to get info. (sometimes)

Those 3G/E are normal even if you dont have data plan
Disable with "APNdroid" from the market. After you disable 3G/Edge/Gprs data connection make sure you reboot so it actually disables it...you will no longer see 3G/E BTW Expect even better battery life after doing so.
laristech said:
You can turn sync off which will prevent it from going online to get info. (sometimes)
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I wouldn't touch sync its still very useful even if just using Wifi

Not sure what you will get charged but a data plan is NOT required on this phone. On other android devices it has been but for some reason this one can be used as a "dumb" phone. Store employees may tell you otherwise so they can get the commission.

joshthewaster said:
Not sure what you will get charged but a data plan is NOT required on this phone. On other android devices it has been but for some reason this one can be used as a "dumb" phone. Store employees may tell you otherwise so they can get the commission.
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I've seen people INSIST up and down that you can't run smartphones without a data plan or the carrier will add them. They told me the same thing about AT&T and guess what? My wife runs her iphone 2g without one (edge disabled) and nary a problem.

mk262 said:
I've seen people INSIST up and down that you can't run smartphones without a data plan or the carrier will add them. They told me the same thing about AT&T and guess what? My wife runs her iphone 2g without one (edge disabled) and nary a problem.
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I used my nexus and then my vibrant as prepaid with no problems...I went into the store and paid full price for vibrant and told them i had a tmobile prepaid sim card i was going to use...they dont care.
But now i have a $60 month plan so i can use my smart phone for what its intended for

yep, no problem with my even more + plan sans data. been using it that way since i got my g1, and they have not said anything.

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How did she get a plan without data? Its a requirement for the android devices.
I'm sure tmobile will automatically add it.
Yes they will charge. Either 30 bucks a month for per meg. I had someone that tried to do this with Verizon and he got a bill for 300 bucks.
You can turn sync off which will prevent it from going online to get info. (sometimes)
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thats not true. its not required to have a data plan with an android phone. I talked to a tmobile rep and he said if you buy the android from them by either upgrading or starting a service then you do. but if you bring a tmobile android to them to start up service you dont have to have a data plan. although its really pointless to have an android phone without a data plan.

thanks for the replies guys. I download APN Droid and that took care of the concern. Thanks.

nguyenmd said:
thanks for the replies guys. I download APN Droid and that took care of the concern. Thanks.
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you dont need to download any apps. just go to mobile network, select APN setting and change the epc.tmobile.com to some arbitrary characters like "24532lk34j23l45ju204213" and hit the "menu" button and save. then turn off background sync at all time (unless you turn on wifi for android market donwload apps and gmail or apps that requires internet) and then reboot the phone.
the phone will will still shows 3G/E but u wont be able to get on internet as the APN setting has changed. T-mobile wont charge you data plan for this even though they got the IMEI detected. Ciao!

njfpolyr6 said:
you dont need to download any apps. just go to mobile network, select APN setting and change the epc.tmobile.com to some arbitrary characters like "24532lk34j23l45ju204213" and hit the "menu" button and save. then turn off background sync at all time (unless you turn on wifi for android market donwload apps and gmail or apps that requires internet) and then reboot the phone.
the phone will will still shows 3G/E but u wont be able to get on internet as the APN setting has changed. T-mobile wont charge you data plan for this even though they got the IMEI detected. Ciao!
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Yea remove epc.tmobile.com and for some reason you want it back but you forgot what it was so you go searching online because your forgot to write it down...you get the point
You really think that's easier than just getting APNdroid click to disable, click to enable. And why would he want to and disable background sync im sure he will use wifi.
BTW when you use your "method" and still see 3G/E your phone might not be able to connect to tmobile but it is still searching for those signals ultimately wasting battery

I don't have a data plan and I haven't disabled the APN settings. Whenever I go onto the browser without WiFi it shows me a T-Mobile page that just says that I need a data plan use the internet. It has never charged me. But I do have an unlimited text message plan and I can send picture messages just fine. Just an FYI.

I have used several android phones with out a data plan. We have a family plan, and so all I needed to do was use the sim card for a line that did not have a plan. It actually works well, and were I not waiting for the ota for froyo, I would be tempted to drop my data plan and I use my phone extensively.
If I recall correctly, the only applications that I could not use when out and about were the browser based apps. Initially, the thought of not being able to user google maps would have been enough of a reason not to drop the data plan, but with my trip to canada, that was cured with a $20 download of Co pilot. I am generally using my phone where I have wifi access. Nonetheless, I still was able to get email updates with out a data plan.
In essence, with out a data plan you can still access email, messaging, and use many if not most of your downloaded applications. If you need constant access to FB, you tube, twitter and the likes, you will not easily be able to drop you data line.
Note that I was able to get my wife's phone upgraded to a my touch slide on t-mobile and was not required to add a data plan. I did, but it was weeks after I already had it up and running which was possible because it provided an option to configure wifi before having to have the google account configured (unlike the G1).
Just fyi those those interested.
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T-Mobile will NEVER add a data plan to your line, especially without your knowledge.
I've been using a smartphone with my plan without data for years now.

[Q] Rogers data plan not working?

So a couple of weeks ago I bought a new HTC desire outright on Telus. I got it unlocked to use with my rogers prepaid sim card. So far so good.
But when popped it in, set up the apn and tested out the internet, I got a message saying: "Before using the mobile internet, you must have a valid mobile internet option. To continue, select from the following:" and it went on to list the data day and week passes for smartphones.
But, i DO have data. I have the socialite 20 prepaid data plan which includes
unlimited internet. Before the desire, I was using the plan with my blackberry bold just fine. Anyone have any ideas as to why my generic data plan worked on my bb but not my htc?
Any help is much appreciated, thanks.

Maybe cause your on a blackberry specific plan ?
im not really sure never had this problem
then again i never used an unlock phone on rogers just got a phone with a 3 year contract :\

That's what i thought at first. but I'm just on a regular data plan.

something similar happened like that and I called rogers who assured me out was a glitch in their system. just needs a data reset.

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something similar happened like that and I called riggers who assured me out was a glitch in their system. just needs a data reset.
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so all i have to do is ask rogers to reset my data?

I remember that the unlimited data only applies to the selected payg rogers phones using the wpa network?
5. Includes unlimited on-device mobile browsing, excluding tethering (use of device as wireless modem) on select Rogers certified devices (excludes smartphones). Usage subject to Rogers Terms of services and Acceptable usage policy; rogers.com/terms. Data transmission charges of 5¢/page viewed when roaming in the US and 25¢/page viewed when roaming internationally apply. Visit Rogers.com/mobileinternet for details.
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However, if it turns out to work for you then I might get that plan too

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I remember that the unlimited data only applies to the selected payg rogers phones using the wpa network?
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sorry, but what exactly do you mean by wpa network?
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Technodude88 said:
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I remember that the unlimited data only applies to the selected payg rogers phones using the wpa network?
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sorry, but what exactly do you mean by wpa network?
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i think he meant "wap"
also, I'm not sure if you've called rogers yet but i know that plans are dependent on phones anymore - for example you can use your blackberry on an iphone data plan and vice versa - when I HUPed to the iphone 4 i was on a regular data on one line and a blackberry on another - i thought I would have to switch both lines to iphone plans but they said that it's been set so that I can switch "data" between both phones so no plan change was necessary.
I think you should just call Rogers and see what they say, likely what will happen is they will "reset" your data and you'll remove the battery and the sim for 10 seconds then put everything back and it should work fine.
I don't think pay as you go is any different but I'm speaking from contract experience
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Earbuddy said:
Technodude88 said:
i think he meant "wap"
also, I'm not sure if you've called rogers yet but i know that plans are dependent on phones anymore - for example you can use your blackberry on an iphone data plan and vice versa - when I HUPed to the iphone 4 i was on a regular data on one line and a blackberry on another - i thought I would have to switch both lines to iphone plans but they said that it's been set so that I can switch "data" between both phones so no plan change was necessary.
I think you should just call Rogers and see what they say, likely what will happen is they will "reset" your data and you'll remove the battery and the sim for 10 seconds then put everything back and it should work fine.
I don't think pay as you go is any different but I'm speaking from contract experience
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Oh, ok. Thanks for your help! I'll give them a call tomorrow and see how everything goes.
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Well, I gave that a try, but no dice. , when i turned on my phone after they reset my data, i still got the same message, any ideas? The person i was talking to said that it would only work with feature phones and not smartphones. But obviously not as i could use my blackberry...

Any help, ideas, or opinions, ate greatly appreciated.
And I could just get an android data plan but I can't afford paying around 60 bucks per month for the amount of data I use, around 3 gigs.
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Naive question : have you tried to put your SIM (the present one you have in your Desire) in your old Blackberry ?
If it's not working either then definitely a problem with your carrier (probably misconfiged your plan when you changed your phone). Just call'em again and again...Sorry no more ideas then...
If it's working in your BB and not your HTC then probably a conf problem on the phone itself OR (like said earlier) your data plan (not the fees you pay or the customer contract but I mean the real configuration of your profile in the network) that is not the same for a BB and a regular smartphone.
That's nearly always the case, BB using different data services that other constructor....If that's the case then......calling carrier support again and again and again to make them correct that...
As for the network conf of the HTC itself, I guess you have verified everything, especially the APN part ?

ChiccoFR said:
Naive question : have you tried to put your SIM (the present one you have in your Desire) in your old Blackberry ?
If it's not working either then definitely a problem with your carrier (probably misconfiged your plan when you changed your phone). Just call'em again and again...Sorry no more ideas then...
If it's working in your BB and not your HTC then probably a conf problem on the phone itself OR (like said earlier) your data plan (not the fees you pay or the customer contract but I mean the real configuration of your profile in the network) that is not the same for a BB and a regular smartphone.
That's nearly always the case, BB using different data services that other constructor....If that's the case then......calling carrier support again and again and again to make them correct that...
As for the network conf of the HTC itself, I guess you have verified everything, especially the APN part ?
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so i gave that a shot and it works fine in the bb, and yea i double checked my apn settings, guess im just going to have to bug rogers untill they point me in the right direction

I think your problem is that you are not using a valid smartphone data plan, the unlimited internet option is only available to Roger's dumbphones/bb. If everyone were able to get unlimited internet on their smart phones with $10 a month, there wouldn't be a need for a data plan right?

so i found something interesting today,
if i toggle the data on and immediatly load a page, news feed, video, whatever, i can get maybe 3-5 seconds of working data, which is progress
its as though it starts and then identifies the phone i have, and sees that its a smartphone, so it shuts it off... or is this a phone problem?
also, if it is and i.d. thing, is there any way to make your phone appear as though its a dumbphone? sort of like changing the user agent or something?
thanks in advance

i hope you've had your data plan restored, but in case you haven't, i asked Rogers for a "special reset".
i rooted and flashed cyanogenmod 6.1
my data was working
then when in windsor, it lost my Rogers (Canada) data network but logged on to an American AT&T data network
Even when Rogers was available again, and AT&T was not, it just never came back.
the technician told me it might have stuck to the AT&T network and a data reset would fix it.
it did!