I've read all post in this board.
but i can't quite understand if lag is really there, if it shows only in certain phone(say carrier,geographical area etcetc) or whatever...
reading random post here and here doesn't give precise informations about this aspect of the hero's user experience.
So i'll make a poll. 4 options of lag-tollerability.
if you vote for the poll, reply describing details of the phone, and a precise description of the lag(where, when, app open...)
ps
I'm italian so sorry for my dodgy english.
I'm going to refrain from voting until I have a better idea of what precisely people mean by lag.
The only slightly slow thing on my G2 has been the messages - sometimes there has been a bit of a delay opening the list of messages, threads etc.
Today, I waited for all of about..........four whole seconds.
I can live with that.
None of the phone's other functions have any appreciable delay or sluggishness.
It's worth noting, however, that I don't use the Farcebook or Twatter widgits, so I don't know if they cause any lag on other poster's phones.
Compare this to my Vario III/Kaiser which seized up on regular occasions.
And if you had the temerity to hit the 'back' button whilst using PIE, well, it was sometimes quicker to do a soft reset than wait for it to get its arse into gear.
That's the feedback i was looking for.
in my opinion you are in the second option of the pool.
Because it's normal that some application need loading time, and that's not lag nor abnormal..
I voted no lag, but that is because of some modifications I made.
Before I go into detail, here is my definition of "lag":
My device lags if an action that should be instant hangs for a fraction (or more) before taking place. An example of such an action is a screen swipe across the homescreen. It should happen as you perform the swipe, if it doesn't, something is lagging and preventing the screen from moving. Waiting for a calendar to load, an inbox to display, logging in to messenger, that sort of stuff is in my view not lagging. They are usualy an action that loads data for display or modification.
I voted for No lag at all, but I cheated because I have removed the entire Sense UI and its widgets from my device using the Rosie remover from Modaco.
The Sense UI is a great piece of work, but every time I used it I had the feeling the Hero just doesnt have the horsepower to drive such a UI. (Which fits my description of lagging)
So, lagging: No, but only after cheating and reverting to the default Homescreen.
I voted totally no, but it's not exactly true. The phone can sometimes lag abit while it's loading up from sleep mode, also the browser can lag depending on which sites you visit. But both of those examples are very minor and I have never had the phone freeze for more than a second.
Sure the phone could be faster, but when I got it, and after hearing about it's laggyness from reviews I was supprised of how fast it was.
I use the default ROM that came with the phone, and taskkiller isn't even installed.
I have a couple of complaints about this device but lag isn't one of them.
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I voted totally no, but it's not exactly true. The phone can sometimes lag abit while it's loading up from sleep mode, also the browser can lag depending on which sites you visit. But both of those examples are very minor and I have never had the phone freeze for more than a second.
Sure the phone could be faster, but when I got it, and after hearing about it's laggyness from reviews I was supprised of how fast it was.
I use the default ROM that came with the phone, and taskkiller isn't even installed.
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I experience the same thing, I've had doubts on buying the new diamond 2 or the hero, since i've had the diamond 1 for a while I decided to try the android thingy.
Compared to that the diamond lives in the stoneages and experiences lot's of lag, my hero sometimes hesitates when coming out of sleep and when I just refreshed the widget's (got new mail ore weather update) it lags a tiny bit, but I don't consider the hero to lag overall so I voted option 2
Typing quickly makes the keyboard lag quite alot which always winds me up.
Scrolling through contacts is very clunky (maybe due to all of them having pictures and facebook status'). But then again dont offer the feature if its crap.
Messages takes too long to load up.
BAM!
Biffert said:
I voted no lag, but that is because of some modifications I made.
Before I go into detail, here is my definition of "lag":
My device lags if an action that should be instant hangs for a fraction (or more) before taking place. An example of such an action is a screen swipe across the homescreen. It should happen as you perform the swipe, if it doesn't, something is lagging and preventing the screen from moving. Waiting for a calendar to load, an inbox to display, logging in to messenger, that sort of stuff is in my view not lagging. They are usualy an action that loads data for display or modification.
I voted for No lag at all, but I cheated because I have removed the entire Sense UI and its widgets from my device using the Rosie remover from Modaco.
The Sense UI is a great piece of work, but every time I used it I had the feeling the Hero just doesnt have the horsepower to drive such a UI. (Which fits my description of lagging)
So, lagging: No, but only after cheating and reverting to the default Homescreen.
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Did you keep any aspects of Sense UI intact? I don't know what is tied to it as far as the keyboard and music player?
Totally no for me. I thought about 'More of a slight delay' but that would be less accurate, as for the most part things happen very quickly. The keyboard has been known to miss a beat, and large pdf files take a minimum of time to load up the pages as you scroll, but apart from the expected delay in processing intensive tasks, generally I've been pretty amazed at the speed of the thing to be honest. If I was to say the Hero lagged, I'd have to say my PC lagged aswell. Some things do take time. You're not gonna load up a 5Mb pdf instantaneously on the iPhone either.
To completely remove delay or lag from a phone you'd need processing power far beyond that normally required by the software, which isn't practical.
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Did you keep any aspects of Sense UI intact? I don't know what is tied to it as far as the keyboard and music player?
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Only the visible parts have been removed such as HTC widgets and the homescreen itself. The apps still work great (calendar, people, keyboard, etc). The background services are still present.
Just a bit of delay between switching screens and once in a while I do encounter keystroke lag when typing on eBuddy and RoadSync email - rarely any keyboard lag when texting.
I've been trying out some bits and pieces over the past couple of days and have noticed some serious performance differences.
After my factory reset I didn't set an 'unlock code' with the connect the dots dealy, this has made a massive difference to the performance of my phone. Also, as I'm with Vodafone, I didn't bother setting up Peep, I opted for Twidroid instead. Without peep on a home 'scene' I've got a performance boost too. Twidroid is still running in the background, mind and I don't miss a tweet!
Just thought I'd chime in and see if anyone else had noticed the same.
No lag at all here with anything yet, tried a few different configurations. Maybe I'm one of the lucky ones, but looks like the new update will sort out any lag in the next few days?
No lag for me, sometimes you have to wait a second but compare to my last phone (HTC Diamond) it's just black and white.
The diamond was buggy and slow. The hero is fast, I never had a freeze and Android is the best OS I never tried!
This is my first touch screen, and first android phone, so of course im constantly impressed with it. Blows my mind in fact.
That said, I do experience lag problems:
- that require me to use Taskiller to kill everything once in a while if ive been using to many difference apps.
- Keyboard lag when typing fast. More noticeable if apps are piled up in the background
- Sliding between home screens straight after unlocking the screen. Seems like once they screens are 'buffered' they slide smoothly and quickly. FYI i only use 3 home screens with only the clock, dialer, Taskiller and WIFI widget. Rest is plain app shortcut icons.
- Dialer widget. Sliding through favourite contacts is sloooow. Take a second or two to start moving, and as aboive, once I've slid all the way up and down and its 'buffered' its smooth as silk...
I voted for Sometimes is unusable.
First week I used TasKiller and Advanced Task Killer (great app btw!) to kill unnecessary apps running, and I was very pleased with the performance. Next week I uninstalled all third party task killer apps because I read here that Android should be very capable of handling these things. Well in my experience, I doesn't handle this all too well, I think now my device is lagging more than with me using task killers.
Lagging here means screen unresponsive when unlocking, not being able to drag notifications bar to properly view what's there, home screen switching is not so smooth etc. I'm only using Wi-Fi & other ON/OFF switches, medium weather app, couple of calendar widgets and bunch of shortcuts on my home screen. Only FB contacts are integrated, I'm not on Twitter or Flickr.
Just today I started using class 6 microSD card, and for now, everything seems pretty smooth. But I did remove the battery before doing this so it might not be so dramatic change compared to previous experience. Waiting eagerly for the new Hero update!
Only Sense is slow sometimes
Sometimes (once or twice a day) it definately lags. But it seems only a "Sense" issue. When it happens, for example the scrolling is not smooth anymore and the "SMS" Widget stops working properly (you can't flip trough the messages anymore).
But if I enter any Application, the App. itself works smooth and without any lags at all.
Strange thing is: after a couple of minutes (and it doesn't matter if the phone is turned on or not) the lag disappears totally. Maybe theres is some sort of "memory-rearrangement" or "Disk defragmentation" going on that slows the phone down while running.
it's worth noting as well that whether or not there are any "issues" it's always possible to make the phone lag - playing high-bit-rate-music while trying to browse a flash website will do it, for example - but that's only because the phone doesn't artificially limit what you can do
Hey All, I've had my TF for about a month now, and while I do love the device. the one thing that is constantly annoying me is in the browser. I have the agent string set to "Desktop" and it displays almost all websites without a problem. The annoying thing is when I open up Facebook and click on a picture someone has posted, it loads the picture up at a large size (almost full screen) with flash, but when I try to scroll to the comments the picture stays up blocking the picture. Has anyone else had this problem or know a workaround for it? The closest that I have come is keeping Dolphin also installed on the TF with the agent string on that set to Phone so I can view without Flash freaking out. Thanks!
Wow over 40 views and no thoughts. Am I the only having this issue, or the only one too dumb to know how to fix it?
sorry i cant offer a solution, but i can agree with what youve described. Picture blows up, and ive noticed the most horrible lag during that time. I try closing the picture and it takes a good 3-4 seconds to close..
havent tried on any other browsers
I have been very happy with my Nexus 7 since I got it. One major problem I am having is lag. I think my tablet has a hardware issue. Games like Riptide GP should be silky smooth with this hardware, but my game lags every 10-15 seconds. It drops like 5 frames and then is back to normal for another few seconds. It's not only with games though, it happens when I am scrolling down web pages. Even just news articles with no flash content and only 1 picture lag. At first I thought I was expecting too much from this device, but after watching some YouTube reviews it is clear that my device isn't as snappy as others.
Most UI interactions like swiping through apps are fine, but scrolling through my email quickly makes my device stutter for a second.
So is anybody else noticing this? Do you thinks it really is a hardware problem of will a software update fix it?
Been smooth all around so far. Don't own that game and haven't had issues with any web pages I've tried so far. Want to list a specific url that is extra laggy to try and replicate your problem.
It's not web page specific. It's any web page that I can scroll on (all webpages lol). Try reading a Wikipedia article. wait for the page to fully load then try to scroll from top to bottom in one swipe. Does it stutter of lag at all? Mine does 95% of the time. It doesn't make the tablet unusable, but its a little annoying considering my HTC thunderbolt is smoother most of the time. And project butter is supposed to stop all this from happening.
I'm assuming you're on stock 4.1.1 and nothing weird eating up background resources, then yeah, I'd take it back and exchange it. (I tried a few different wiki pages just to see and they were all smooth sailing for me)
Yeah I am on stock (4.1.1) I even rooted and flashed a custom ROM to see if that would fix it. It didn't. Thanks for testing for me. It may be hard to return to GameStop but I'll call them up.
I think chrome on android has improved quite a bit since it launched but I feel like it's especially bad on my nexus 10, and on specific sites. Some sites, such as this one, are very responsive to touch and there isn't any lag to speak of. Some sites, however, seem terrible. One example is androidcentral.com - the desktop version. The lag I'm referring to is when you're scrolling down the page, and you try to stop the scroll, or scroll back up the page. It seems like the browser goes unresponsive for a second and then jumps up the page a bit.
This happens on many sites I visit, but androidcentral.com is one of the better examples. It kind of kills the browsing experience for me and is one of the reasons I don't use my nexus 10 that much.
I've googled and the closest complaint I can find was on this forum - http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1986212 However it's an older post and when I checked on the link to the issue it looks as though it had been resolved.
So, my question(s) are:
1) are others experiencing the same issue?
2) is there a fix / workaround for those specific sites?
3) Is there a way to report this to google?
Mine freezes while browsing...I blamed Chrome Beta, and went back to Chrome recently.
Remains to be seen if the problem is gone.
Hi,
First, if you're using Chrome Beta (like me), I'm facing a similar problem as well, but usually mine goes blank and doesn't work till I restart the app. If you want the best fix, then it's best to download the Chrome or a different browser like Firefox or Dolphin.
You can report a bug here: http://code.google.com/p/chromium/issues/list
~Lord
Use your warranty and ask for a touch replacement.
I struggled with phone for half year and finally decided to send it to service.
My phone lagged pretty much from first day. With updates lag become less noticeable but unwanted tap events (clicks) were main problem that persisted whole time. I couldn't scroll through gallery without opening picture almost on every scroll. Scrolling web pages was often resulted on visiting links I didn't want to visit. Facebook page was pretty interesting because phone was clicking Like button on it's own and also was sending friend requests on its own.
With new touch my phone feels like a completely different device. No lag, no unwanted or missed taps.
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Video I recorded earlier (lag problem): https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jttoOoC8k_Q
tomtomhr said:
Use your warranty and ask for a touch replacement.
I struggled with phone for half year and finally decided to send it to service.
My phone lagged pretty much from first day. With updates lag become less noticeable but unwanted tap events (clicks) were main problem that persisted whole time. I couldn't scroll through gallery without opening picture almost on every scroll. Scrolling web pages was often resulted on visiting links I didn't want to visit. Facebook page was pretty interesting because phone was clicking Like button on it's own and also was sending friend requests on its own.
With new touch my phone feels like a completely different device. No lag, no unwanted or missed taps.
P.S.
Video I recorded earlier (lag problem): https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jttoOoC8k_Q
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That video just shows a badly optimised web page lagging, which it does on mine, but I have no touchscreen issues and no missed or unwanted taps. If I use a page which is well written with less ads, it's silky smooth.
Jonathan-H said:
That video just shows a badly optimised web page lagging, which it does on mine, but I have no touchscreen issues and no missed or unwanted taps. If I use a page which is well written with less ads, it's silky smooth.
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I could agree that web page is badly optimized but on my old phone (Galaxy S4) scrolling works ok and worked earlier when I recorded video. Now, after touch replacement G4 scrolls is it even better.
Ok, some minor lag occurs but only when page loads more content on scrolling down (same is on every device I own). Lag on video was not caused by content loading but because of problem with phone and I'm happy now is resolved. As I told earlier, it feels like totally different (better) device now.
I could record video to show difference.
Jonathan-H said:
That video just shows a badly optimised web page lagging, which it does on mine, but I have no touchscreen issues and no missed or unwanted taps. If I use a page which is well written with less ads, it's silky smooth.
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That site simply *is* smooth as can be on my G4 (5.1.1 / UCBrowser) :good:
Note: of course using an adblocker as ads can really cripple your phone, speed-wise... And this page has lots of ads, considering all the empty white spaces I see...