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I had used this on my Palm PDA for some time and had no problems. I downloaded the trial and found that when I went to preferences I couldnt scroll down the page to see all the settings/options. I tried the DPAD, moving the scroll bar with my finger and the stylus, it just popped back to it's starting place and the page didnt move.
Dataviz said it's because the software wasnt designed for a touch screen. Excuse me?! For one, I can scroll through the document fine with the dpad and I can pan a page by way of the touch screen. Also, palm devices have always been touch screens and didnt windows mobile start on PDAs with touch screens?
Anyone else tried the software and have it work?
Um, I guess this is not a direct answer to your question, but why on earth would you want to use Documents to Go? The Touch has native Work, Excel, and Powerpoint capabilities, no conversion required. You can even view and edit the new 2007 formats (docx, xlsx, pptx). The Touch also comes with the Adobe PDF viewer built in, so you're not getting anything out of that program.
I had good experience with Documents to Go on my palm pda. I thought I would see how it worked in windows mobile as reviews still gave it high ratings. But after that run around I unistalled it.
It's certainly a very good program - I used it on my old Clie UX40. I'm just saying it's completely redundant and unnecessary on a WinMo 6.0 device.
I'd like to know if you have any problems with Astronavigator on Touch HD.
I have installed it and as soon as go in the menu for changing location, the application freezes
I'd also like to know if there's any similar program, which uses gps to define current location...
Tnx
Andrej
Same for me: app freezes
yep
fine till you change location - then freezzzzz
here the same...no sulotion in the pas half year?
here the same...no solution in the past half year?
I've tried running Atronavigator on both HTC shift and Touch HD, the stuff just freezes.
But... if you de-select all the stuff on the map, once in a while, you can get to the location part, I was even able to get a fix one time and see the soft. as it should be.
On the shift, it's even harder to get it working, one must reboot, kill activesync,kill all the other stuff like GSM/Radio, kill the stars, planets and the rest and..
you might get lucky once in a while...
possibly it's due to the origins of my file...
Same here; just freezes when trying to locate position or even when wanting to input position manually on Touch HD
Hi,
It's Working with WGAFIX.
WGAfix ?
I guess you mean WVGA Fix(.cab) to switch to VGA, I first was confused into downloading WGA fix for XP :-(
This looks like the place to get it.
Incidentally, the freeze happens with the version legitimately downloaded from vitotechnology.com. I sent a request to their support 3 weeks ago, and then by email, haven't heard from them.
The previous version (astronavigatorII 1.2) works fine though...
goulniky said:
I guess you mean WVGA Fix(.cab) to switch to VGA, I first was confused into downloading WGA fix for XP :-(
Where do I get this anyway?
Incidentally, the freeze happens with the version legitimately downloaded from vitotechnology.com. I sent a request to their support 3 weeks ago, and then by email, haven't heard from them.
The previous version (astronavigatorII 1.2) works fine though...
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Not sure if this is the WVGA fix your talking about
yeah, that's the one. I find that I need to do a soft reset to switch back from VGA to WVGA with that program, but that's fine.
The good news is, once you've set the astroNavigatorII location in VGA mode, you can return to WVGA as everything else works, and it 'cookies' your location. So, as long as you don't move to a distant location, you'll be able to enjoy the app.
Wow, I've been looking for a suitable app that can rival the iPhone's Starmap. Doesn't look like Vitotechnology are too reliable though... No fix for the problem in however many months, and no replies to tech support requests?
More annoying though, I go to their website and find they have an iPhone app themselves called Star Walk 3.0 which has all sorts of goodies like GPS/Digital compass etc, whilst the Astronavigator app for Windows Mobile phones seems to be stuck in a development freeze with a location feature that doesn't even work properly on our phone!
iPhone virtual machine?
from what I can judge, Astronavigator is nowhere as impressive as Starmap, still more expensive, no editing, scant documentation. The navigation / screen gestures are also quite confusing. Haven't used Starmap though.
I guess what we need is an iPhone emulator running under WM6
Greetings here! A few months ago, when I saw the "new" touch pro 2 phone, I knew it was "THE" phone for me. Well, I must say it really was, but I just decided to try the new HD2. So, from TP2 to HD2, what can I say? Perhaps my point of view coul help some tp2 owners to choose between "I keep my tp2" or "I buy the hd2"? Here is my opinion:
1) ROM / programs / games / ect...
Well... I can't say. It's the same basically. Evertything the hd2 has, the tp2 can have (with cooked roms at least). Of course, the hd2 is much faster, and can launch many more app in the same time (much more memory). Even after some days without soft-reseting, the thing is still fast and good responding (I must say I use some taskmanager to kill apps I don't use)
2) Keyboard
I must say I write about 4-5 emails each day. The lack of physical keyboard on the hd2 was my worst fear. Well, I was quite disappointed with the hd2 software keyboard, as many people in this forum. Then I tried fingerkeyboard, it was better. Then again, I tried Touchpal, and it was MUCH better. Of course, I can't type as fast as I was used to with my tp2 but... I can type quite fast using touchpal. I can say I'm satisfied with typing on this phone.
3) Battery life
Well, 1'500 Mah for the tp2, and "only" 1'200 for the hd2. I can see the difference. But I'm not using the battery too much (average use: 30 min phone, 1 hour music, 1 hour reading / answering mails, perhaps 30 min on internet, no wi-fi, no bluetooth, and some playing with differents apps), and the hd2 can do it for 2 days without problems.
4) Screen
Is there any need to comment? 3.6' resistive VS 4.3' capacitive? The difference is HUGE!
5) Size
Well, I find that, finally, the hd2 isn't so big compared to the tp2. Much more thinner. I use my hd2 with 2 hands... but I was used to do the same with my tp2 (I didn't ever tried to use it single-handed)
6) Phone / Signal quality
It's still a phone, isn't it? I find the signal quality is the same as it was with my tp2 (flashed with the last radio). Phone quality is very good. The sound is clear and good, better (in my opinion) than on the tp2.
7) GPS
The fix is quite fast, nothing to say, I'm satisfied. Perhaps faster than it was on the tp2.
8) Windows mobile 6.5
My tp2 was 6.1 version (at least until I flashed it). I don't see much differences, and I don't care, actually. I like windows mobile. Why is that? simply because I can choose exactly what I want for my mobile phone. I mean I can choose between (at least):
* Manilla "Sense UI"
* WM6.5 Titanium (not so bad)
* SPB Mobile shell 3.5 (using it right now and quite pleased)
* PointUI Home 2 (long to test and configure, but you can do everything you want with this one. I had some lag with my tp2, but everything runs fine with the hd2)
* ...
9) Camera:
I don't think the hd2 is much better than the tp2... Well, I don't really care. If I want to take a picture, I generally use a "real" camera...
10) Keys:
There is 1 more hardware key on the hd2 (if you don't consider the tp2 hardware keyboard and on/off button). I don't really care about the key functions as I remap them all using AE Button (which I use as taskmanager mapped on a button also). I must even say AE button works better with the hd2 (no idea why... but finding which button was what on the AEB button list was harder on the tp2).
Well... I think that's all. I see many threads flaming the hd2 here, and I don't really understand why so... I decided to share my experience.
PS: Sorry for my english, it's not my main language
Thanks for sharing your experience I upgraded from Touch HD to HD2 and it was a right decision. This phone is just great.
hey mate, well I have a TP2 from work and a HD2 as my personal phone.
Some good points above but I'll add the following:
A)- The TP2 is atrociously slow with the newer 'sense' official ROM's from HTC - Seems the 1Ghz CPU really does make allot of difference when using the WM6.5 ROM's.
B)- The camera is way better than the TP2 - no flash on the TP2 for a start but the overall quality is better on the HD2....
C)- I find the TP2 bulky but thats the compromise you have to make for having a keyboard - one well worth it taking into account the excellent well spaced out keyboard on the TP2 - And I agree with you - the HD2 keyboard is quite sensitive - takes some getting used to.
The way I see it - The TP2 is an excellent business tool and the HD2 is an excellent multimedia / consumer tool. I wouldn't give up my TP2 for work use as I type on the excellent keyboard allot (using MS Communicator) but don't need it for personal use hence the HD2 is well suited for that purpose.
Usual principles apply - everyone has their personal preferences
hehe thanks for your sharing
I'll probably switch from my s710 to the hd2 (what a huge change)
• The speaker in TP2 is the double of sound volume (it has 2 speakers). You can watch films without headphones without any problem as it is very loud and clear
• The screen in TP2 is brighter than HD2 even when both are to the maximum of bright. Also TP2 by default is always in the maximum when HD2 is not to keep the weaker battery safe. The extra bright doesn’t compensate the screen size but makes easier to see it in sunlight and movies with dark-night environments
• TP2 is extremely reliable out the box, HD2 is buggy. Simply don’t try to upgrade TP2 to 6.5 than offers little new and uses more memory.
• TP2 keyboard is perfect, the best ever. HD2 is faulty but you always can train yourself to compensate it.
• TP2 touch screen is predictable; it does what you try to do. HD2 screen is unpredictable. It doesn’t really work in a lot of programs with old menus.
• HD2 browsing internet and movie player is very powerful and way ahead to TP2.
I find very handy also the tilt support of the TP2 when placed in a table. You can have the correct vision angle to see movies at same time you have the keyboard to pause, go backwards and forwards etc. When I see a movie in HD2 everything is ok except if I need to do these operations as the touch screen is not acurate and send me to any part of the movie except the one that I'm looking for.
In general I find HD2 a god with broken legs and TP2 and well rounded hero.
touchpro2 all the way
Honestly I think HD2 has some software issues and do not recomend it. Some programs that work on windows mobile 5,6,6.1, for some reasons do not work on HD2. Especially the games . Wait for an update before getting HD2.
Hi Guys,
Just wanted to know from those who are moving from HD to HD2.. how are you guys coping without a stylus??
I am so much in a habit to pull out the stylus from the blackstone...
Are the OK and the X easy to press... scroll bar??
Thanks guys!!
Having moved from a HD to a HD2 about six weeks ago (with 1st batch from Clove Tech) I have one reply for you "what's a stylus ?"
Seriously, it's very good. I have moved to using the Resco keyboard as the standard one is too sensitive and sometimes I use Swype which is amazingly accurate.
So far, I only miss the little metal pointy thing for SPB finance (vintage 2008) which really needs a stylus for operation. But, I'm now using http://sites.google.com/site/maximusmobileproject/Current-Apps/winmoFinance which seems a good alternative.
So, here's one delighted user that the stylus is gone. Second-hand HD with spare stylus anyone ?
Never used my stylus on my HD so not missing it at all. The down arrows in certain menus are a little tricky to operate some times (like changing the text message notification) but if you get the screen alignment right then you get it used where to press. But then, that's the OS problem rather than the phone so when WM7 comes along hopefully it'll all be great!
Moved from a Xperia, which is not useable without stylus, to HD2.
No problem.
well, just fine sometimes I hit the wrong thing, but now I'm adjusted to the sensitivity, I feel that I can text easier than on my iphone. I don't notice anything in the GUI that winmob was designed for a stylus. well,not really, though
Totally agree with the above, and I too came from a HD to a HD2, but had a very similar ROM on the HD, and had already got that as finger friendly as possible, so not much of a transition.
With respect to one particular question...
prateekgujral said:
scroll bar??
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Oh they're actually fun to use! It goes wider where you put your thumb on it, so it's actually easier to use than it was with a stylus!
Sounds good.. thanks
I came to the HD2, from an Athena (X7500) for me the lack of a stylus has turned out to be a big issue*, I cannot enter data reliability nor use applications such as Cash Organizer or Pocket Informant reliably. It is a fine media phone though. I rather hope that the rumoured HTC patented stylus may be a help here
*(This is an opinion, because it may differ from other peoples opinion, it does not make me a Troll, Stupid, or a member of a vast anti-Windows-Mobile conspracy)
Coming from a Kaiser to Leo I thought I would miss both hardware keyboard and stylus, truth is I have missed neither. My typing speed is still not as quick but is getting better all the time.
I had an HTC Touch and then an MDA Compact IV (HTC Diamond). Of course, I still go for the stylus (conditioned reflex) but always realise that I really do not need it. I was very apprehensive when I ordered the HD2 but the apprehension vanished when I tried to use it without the stylus. No need for it at all. I even ported my Sudoku Mastersoft 2.0 and play it every time with no problem! It's true that, eventually, you come across bits that need a stylus and where finger pinching does not work, but that's once every 99 times you use the HD2. Fear not. Go for it. And take advantage of all the .cabs available here. I dowloaded a dozen of them, so had no need to touch the registry.
I've been using Touch Pro for more than a year now. After around 7 months I stopped using the stylus completely, even for Solitare. Without any problems.
HD2 is going to come to me next week and there is no way it could be worce, since it has a capacitive and huuuuuge screen.
Don't worry / don't hesitate to get one.
Using HD2 for 3 weeks. At first I thought I'd go to buy the HD2 stylus as soon as it is available, but now I have second thoughts.
Yes, it is much easier to work with a stylus. Even after practice, the finger is not as precise. Working with Listpro is a really difficult when I have narrow columns that shows exactly a checkbox. I hope listpro will soon release its finger friendly version, or another product will attract me to leave listpro.
I think many "old" applications will have similar troubles. Even some of the Windows screen (like the Connections setting screen) have small UI elements and are not really finger friendly. I can only hope things will improve in the future.
At first, the capacitive screen (and thus the lack of stylus) was a factor that nearly drove me to buy Omnia II instead of HD2. I still am not convinced whether one of these two devices is better than the other, but I heard the WM7 is going to be capacitve and so finger is the future.
PS: for legacy applications, it is very difficult to control the scroll bar when the list is long. When the list is short (say 100 entries), the finger sized scroll button is rather good to use. For big pages (say 300 entries, or the help file of swype), I found that it is nearly impossible to scroll. The list keep jumping around uncontrollably. For big lists, I am forced to use the swype page up page down buttons.
Within Sense UI it is very easy to use finger-only. Once you jump into WM it can get difficult to hit certain lists/buttons.
I have my HD2 for about38 days already. In the first week I was hunting high and low for a stylus and eventually bought 2 types ( meant for iphone). However I found is a waste of money as it takes a lot of hard presses to get the stylus working well; so both stylus gone into the trash can. Then I realized I just need to "exercise" my fingers to make best use of it. I am proud to say now I do not miss the stylus and I find that my finger presses had improved dramatically and accuracy of keys input is 99.99 % and pretty fast. I was on Swype for keyboard input for about 2 weeks ( a fantastic piece of software - highly recommended). However now I go back to use the default touch input for normal use as I have now find it very easy to use now. I now swype only for cases needing lots of data input .
Has the HTC HD2 Capacitive Stylus been released yet ?
I see it's being advertised here:
http://www.clove.co.uk/viewProduct.aspx?product=83E47B82-89E5-4C33-95D5-84F7AE3C3F50
no problem without stylus at all if somebedy have problems with any app, you can add this app to pinch to zoom whitelist, and than just zoom in and click on it
i sometimes miss my stylus, there is really a problem but others advantages of finger scrolling make no turning back! i have accepted the inconveniences!
can't play All Mobile Minesweeper anymore... and many other games...
Moved from the SE X1 where I did use my finger for some things (even typing with FingerKeyboard - brilliant piece of software). Haven't missed the stylus much except for using TotalCommander which can be a real pain!
Most of the time it is OK. But I wish there was an accurate stylus. All Mobile Mines was a favourite of mine. I find Total Commander impossible to use. Data on the Run 5 (a database app I use to record all my books) is a swine to use, as it is designed for stylus. Some apps do not show a scroll bar that expands, so are very difficult (Opera for one!) Zooming in can be hit and miss, and can zoom back out when you do not want it to.
Keyboard is OK (but I was quicker on hx4700) when desensitised (I use BsB 1.6).
Sense UI is very clever, but the icons are huge "off the shelf" and waste so much space.
I really miss easy access to task manager; on my hx4700 I used Magic Button but it is not happy with WM6.5, and I don't want more memory hoggers running. The small icons it creates for runing programs are too easy to miss-hit, and WM6.5 could not show as many as WM2003SE, so it was pointless using it. Now I have Task Manager shortcut in my home screen to switch between progs. I have not found a 16 icon home screen fix that works for me, but it is to my mind a must.
I currently use an old Nokia 6230i for phoning / texting, and a Dell Axim PDA for my diary / taking notes in meetings / etc. Both are on their last legs, so I fugured a smart phone would be the best thing to replace both. Logic dictates WM would be the better O/S (everything I do is Windows), but I found the HD2 too big to carry around all of the time (I leave the PDA in my work bag now). So I thought the HD Mini would be ideal. After weeks of waiting, I managed to get my hands on a demonstration model in a shop yesterday.
Whilst it looked great, and was nice and small for carrying around, I could not get the keyboard to work for me (and my fingers aren't that large). I had assumed that I would turn the devive to landscape when I wanted to type a lot, but it seems that it only does this in the web browser or for texting. Have I missed something? I'm trying to get the Office apps (eg OneNote) in landscape for faster typing whilst in meetings.
I also read that the screen - which looked great indoors - is very difficult to see outdoors?
Can somebody more familar with this device answer these questions for me please?
TIA, Kevin
Use AutoRotate 1.2 or BsB Tweak 1.6 to get Mobile Office apps to go to landscape mode via g-sensor. This will enable you to use landscape keyboard.
I've tried it in Mobile Excel. Works as expected.