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screen rotation software please

Does any one know where I can get the software to switch views on the xda2 screen between portrait & landscape formats ? When I am trying to view spread sheets it becomes extreemly frustraiting having to scroll accross every time I want to view things !!! :x

hey mate,
when i was still using my xda1 i tried out 2 kinds of software; ny-something (forgot the name) and another one called jslandscape. the ny works better but i never got the correct settins to make the appearance right (based on resolution). and the worse part is to uninstall the sucker you have to do a hard reset. now that i'm using an xda2 i haven't heard of anyone successfully using either of the 2 softwares i mentioned; a friend of mine had to do a hardreset after trying it out on his unit. my 2 cents worth is that be VERY careful when you decide to try out orientation software; make sure you back up your data well.
cheers
robson

Have a look at http://www.nyditot.com/
I never testesed it but it seems very good (pocketpc award 2003)
bye
Carlo

I use nyditot quite a lot, at 480x360 landscape for terminal services and web browsing, and it works perfectly. Note that there were issues with PC2003 until recently, so make sure you get the latest version.
I beleive you can uninstall it without a hard reset. However, you need to do a soft reset between screen changes which can be a bit irritating.
Also, the SIP is scaled too, so can be a bit fiddly to use at finer resolutions, although I rather like it tiny.
I just wish PPC devices would start to use, and properly support, the new 640x480 screens that are becoming standard on Palm5 devices.

I also use the nyditot software. I first started using it when I had an iPAQ but since it works with WM2003 is was able to migrate to my XDA II

TouchFLO UI CAB?

Can anyone get their hands on the TouchFLO UI CAB so we can give it a try on the Athena? The functionality was released on the HTC Touch in the UK. Maybe someone can get the CAB off of the HTC Touch and we can give it a try on our Athenas.
http://www.htctouch.com
Check out the TouchFLO try me link at the bottom of the page.

ltxda said:
Can anyone get their hands on the TouchFLO UI CAB so we can give it a try on the Athena? The functionality was released on the HTC Touch in the UK. Maybe someone can get the CAB off of the HTC Touch and we can give it a try on our Athenas.
http://www.htctouch.com
Check out the TouchFLO try me link at the bottom of the page.
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Now that is nice. Especially if it worked in landscape on the Athena.

Indeed. Very interesting.
I'll be looking for it too.

HTC's Touch is QVGA....
From what I've read of the specs, the HTC Touch is a QVGA device without 3G!
If the Cube Touch software is anything like the QVGA HTC Audio Manager I've seen, it will look pathetic on the Athena.
IMHO, it needs to be in a VGA device before it's worth considering installing it to the Athena and preferably a device with similar if not same hardware and software features, in order for all things to be accessible through it's interface.
Having said all that, I read somewhere recently that the Advantage comes with HTC Audio Manager (supposedly no better or worse than WMplayer), but at least natively VGA.
The Touch GUI looks great, but I know one thing for sure, if it lives up to the hype and actually allows better and more intuitive navigation through finger-touch, you can bet your bottom dollar that some big software developers like Spb will be on the bandwagon to produce an even better variant of it.
Great for the rest of the PPC community, whether VGA or QVGA.

May be it has something to do with screen build quality as well....I have a feeling that even though if we install all the interface cabs for "multi touch input method", still Athena screen will not be able to support it.
Does it has anything to do with screen build quality?
few reviews on HTC touch:
http://www.engadgetmobile.com/2007/06/05/htc-touch-hands-on/
http://www.gsmarena.com/htc_touch_with_touchflo_technology-news-274.php

mackaby007 said:
From what I've read of the specs, the HTC Touch is a QVGA device without 3G!
If the Cube Touch software is anything like the QVGA HTC Audio Manager I've seen, it will look pathetic on the Athena.
IMHO, it needs to be in a VGA device before it's worth considering installing it to the Athena and preferably a device with similar if not same hardware and software features, in order for all things to be accessible through it's interface.
Having said all that, I read somewhere recently that the Advantage comes with HTC Audio Manager (supposedly no better or worse than WMplayer), but at least natively VGA.
The Touch GUI looks great, but I know one thing for sure, if it lives up to the hype and actually allows better and more intuitive navigation through finger-touch, you can bet your bottom dollar that some big software developers like Spb will be on the bandwagon to produce an even better variant of it.
Great for the rest of the PPC community, whether VGA or QVGA.
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I want to give it a try. I see your points but am curious about it working and potentially enhancing the UI. From the demo it looked like a nice new toy to have. I'm thinking it's similar to what they did with the iPhone theme where you had the slider lock, etc. If you can at least swap screens and make custom menus using TouchFLO, that would be great. As for the phone it was released on...shame on HTC for putting something like this on such an inferior device ;-)

Nara-e-Mastana said:
May be it has something to do with screen build quality as well....I have a feeling that even though if we install all the interface cabs for "multi touch input method", still Athena screen will not be able to support it.
Does it has anything to do with screen build quality?
few reviews on HTC touch:
http://www.engadgetmobile.com/2007/06/05/htc-touch-hands-on/
http://www.gsmarena.com/htc_touch_with_touchflo_technology-news-274.php
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I don't think so but I could be wrong. For example, the iPhone theme uses slider bars, etc and can be loaded onto the Athena, with a little help of third party software. I hope someone posts the CAB so I can test it out. I'll load it and report my findings if someone can get it.

Nara-e-Mastana said:
May be it has something to do with screen build quality as well....I have a feeling that even though if we install all the interface cabs for "multi touch input method", still Athena screen will not be able to support it.
Does it has anything to do with screen build quality?
few reviews on HTC touch:
http://www.engadgetmobile.com/2007/06/05/htc-touch-hands-on/
http://www.gsmarena.com/htc_touch_with_touchflo_technology-news-274.php
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It isn't multi touch.
Or have I missed something?

ltxda said:
I want to give it a try. I see your points but am curious about it working and potentially enhancing the UI. From the demo it looked like a nice new toy to have. I'm thinking it's similar to what they did with the iPhone theme where you had the slider lock, etc. If you can at least swap screens and make custom menus using TouchFLO, that would be great. As for the phone it was released on...shame on HTC for putting something like this on such an inferior device ;-)
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Gotta agree with you ltxda. I still want to try it too.

i think it would be great. i know there are other softwares that use this interface. so i think ppc is capable but its all about the software limitation.

If were lucky, alan from the HTC Touch post can investigate this for us as he has just acquired such a device.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?p=1301886&posted=1#post1301886

mackaby007 said:
If were lucky, alan from the HTC Touch post can investigate this for us as he has just acquired such a device.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?p=1301886&posted=1#post1301886
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That's awesome! Great thinking mackaby007! Can't wait for him to reply and maybe send us a CAB or two.

Bad news so far...
This is what Paul of Modaco has reported so far;
"Random Touch trivia after spending some time today 'digging around'...
- The screen has it’s own new driver version (touch.dll). This means the TouchFLO interface won’t port to other devices. In fact, I tried it - just to be sure - by installing the driver on my Trinity, and the touchscreen stopped working ohmy.gif
- The fancy today screen plugin is just that, and would be easy for HTC to drop onto any device.
- Out of the box I feel the sensitivity of the screen is a little lacking (it occasionally misses clicks or taps from my finger or stylus), however this seems to be configurable in the registry – watch this space
- The Touch has a new version of HTC’s ‘Task Manager’ (close button) application, a new Camera application, and a very nifty network wizard for setting up GPRS settings. These settings are held on the device in a passworded ZIP file!
- NO PHONE PAD T9 ON THE TOUCH! What the hell were they thinking? I had a good moan to our HTC about it, and demo’d what Phone Pad would be like on the Touch... wink.gif
- When you boot the device, it does the email config (you know, the one that connects to the server to get settings?) and then the config of the data connection. Duh! Wrong order!
- All the IR drivers etc. are in ROM despite their being no IR port!
- The fancy UI takes up a lot of memory
- Audio Manager, Comm Manager and the Phone Dialler are all grey-skinned to match the homescreen UI. It looks real nice biggrin.gif
smile.gif
P"
Not looking good at the mo, but let's not give up hope.

mackaby007 said:
This is what Paul of Modaco has reported so far;
"Random Touch trivia after spending some time today 'digging around'...
- The screen has it’s own new driver version (touch.dll). This means the TouchFLO interface won’t port to other devices. In fact, I tried it - just to be sure - by installing the driver on my Trinity, and the touchscreen stopped working ohmy.gif
- The fancy today screen plugin is just that, and would be easy for HTC to drop onto any device.
- Out of the box I feel the sensitivity of the screen is a little lacking (it occasionally misses clicks or taps from my finger or stylus), however this seems to be configurable in the registry – watch this space
- The Touch has a new version of HTC’s ‘Task Manager’ (close button) application, a new Camera application, and a very nifty network wizard for setting up GPRS settings. These settings are held on the device in a passworded ZIP file!
- NO PHONE PAD T9 ON THE TOUCH! What the hell were they thinking? I had a good moan to our HTC about it, and demo’d what Phone Pad would be like on the Touch... wink.gif
- When you boot the device, it does the email config (you know, the one that connects to the server to get settings?) and then the config of the data connection. Duh! Wrong order!
- All the IR drivers etc. are in ROM despite their being no IR port!
- The fancy UI takes up a lot of memory
- Audio Manager, Comm Manager and the Phone Dialler are all grey-skinned to match the homescreen UI. It looks real nice biggrin.gif
smile.gif
P"
Not looking good at the mo, but let's not give up hope.
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If he wants, have him give us the passworded ZIP file. I'll try to crack it.
I guess we'll have to have someone take a look at the dll mentioned above and see what can be done about that...if there is enough interest.

Maybe we could at least have the today plugin? That looks pretty sweet.

Touch.DLL
I Have a T-Mobile Wing, and I have the Touch.dll file in \Windows . . . (Touch.dll 26.9k 3/21/07 21:21.04)
It came that way, does that mean that TouchFlo may work on my device?

2 things i do not like:
mackaby007 said:
- Out of the box I feel the sensitivity of the screen is a little lacking (it occasionally misses clicks or taps from my finger or stylus), however this seems to be configurable in the registry – watch this space
- The fancy UI takes up a lot of memory
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pretty dissapointing but to be expected i guess.

Just grab yourself Wisbar, and the graphics file and youll be 2/3rds the way home and hosed to recreating the Interface.

Osir1s said:
Just grab yourself Wisbar, and the graphics file and youll be 2/3rds the way home and hosed to recreating the Interface.
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Well see, we're not trying to recreate the interface, we're trying to get the actual app from the actual source and see if it works. Please try to contribute to the thread instead of making ambiguous statements!

WarezAppz said:
I Have a T-Mobile Wing, and I have the Touch.dll file in \Windows . . . (Touch.dll 26.9k 3/21/07 21:21.04)
It came that way, does that mean that TouchFlo may work on my device?
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Just maybe, you never know. I can't remember which post I read, but I do recall it mentioning that the the screen is a new techology and another report that that would not make it a standard WM6 device (I remember now, a discussion at 4winmobile.com about the HTC Touch etc..). Anyway, that makes sense + fellow member neilm also went on to mention that a lot of current WM5 & WM6 wouldn't work on it as it wasn't written with this type of multi-touch screen in mind.
Fair point I think and follows the logik that HTC haven't built a WM6 device that is incompatible with software written for its O/S. No it's more likely that that .dll is all the software needed to make that plug-in (shell or whatever) interface with any WM touch screen.
So, WarezApps, if you have the .dll by default, it could mean that your device is capable of running the plug-in with the screen driver you seem to have, as they may have considered selling it as a default app within your device, but possibly recognized the potential to knock out another new device (for more money), which will appeal to some people just for this particular touch interface!
I think it will work with that Touch.dll screen driver.
Can you upload your file for us all to share and examine.
Anyway bottom line: I think it's all about transferable software now and just want to try it for myself to see.

Winterface

Has anyone tested winterface from VITO?
http://vitotechnology.com/vito-mobile-shell.html

yes. looked fine to me at first but after a few minutes i noticed some issues.
i had problems with the taskmanager (because it did not uninstall or deactivate the standart taskmanager) and most of the good looking skins are not available for the x1 resolution.
- QuadWord

Buggy and sometimes slow... and you have to click/hit an icon more than once to get it to acknowledge selection...
I prefer iFonz: http://xperiancer.blogspot.com/2009/01/ifonz-iphone-for-windows-mobile.html
Best Regards.

tegera said:
Has anyone tested winterface from VITO?
http://vitotechnology.com/vito-mobile-shell.html
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Warning!
vitotechnology.com/vito-mobile-shell.html may cause a breach of browser security.
Why were you redirected to this page? When we tested, this site attempted to make unauthorized changes to our test PC by exploiting a browser security vulnerability. This is a serious security threat which could lead to an infection of your PC.
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Mcafee site advisor.

I use it, I like it. Not that it's perfect.
Also I have no problem with the site.

Dr.Sid said:
I use it, I like it. Not that it's perfect.
Also I have no problem with the site.
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It's not a problem you can see. Basically it means that the website tried to automatically download and run a script on the connecting computer. Mcafee tests this.

Question is how severe the problem is, and if the problem is actual. Their site could get hacked in past.
This company really sells software and not bad one. This indeed is their main site. Why would they put viruses on their site ?
If I run this check now:
http://www.siteadvisor.com/sites/vitotechnology.com
I get no warning,

Does anybody know if it is possible te install a pincode after the standbye schreen (I don't mean the normal screenlock from WM)

I use it
all the time, it makes using the X1 so much easier for 90% of the tasks.
What it doesn't do isn't worth worrying about.
It will improve, it is only a 1.2 product !!
I guess it depends what you're after, if you want the HTC Touch interface then install it / buy an HTC. If you've bought an X1 because you like the features but want to short cut some WinMo issues this is a very good way to do it.

Anyone knows where I can get some Winterface WVGA icons compatible with Xperia? Can't seem to find them anywhere and the default icons from 1.2 version look somewhat pixelated.

How does your X1 crash/hang up on you?

Okay, im just curious about this. I've read all over the net (and this forum also) that your X1 is bound to crash one way or another. Sometimes i read that people can have 2 or more crash everyday, which i think is quite strange.
My X1 fortunately never crash up on me. I surf the net, use wifi, listen to music, use the GPS via Garmin, chat on yahoo messenger and even watch a full length movie on it. Fortunately it just never crash on me. Not on a normal use anyway...
Speaking of which, i've tested my X1 also, to see until which point it might actually crash. I surf the net + Activate garmin + chat on yahoo + listen to music + occassional sms in between, and the phone is still doing fine.
It does get pretty laggy at times, but the point is it's still very usable.
here is all the apps that i've installed on my X1 (as in remove program thing):
Astraware bejeweled 2
Astraware Sudoku
Xperia Tweak
Garmin Mobile XT
Google Maps
HTC enlarge start menu
J.S Advanced config
Slick
.Net CF3.5
All the panels
the only bug that i have in my phone is the one where i cant add the speed dial. But this doesnt concern me because i just dont use speed dial anyway.
So im just curious, how does your X1 (if ever) crash up on you?
Oh and one more thing, im still using the R1A original ROM.

mine crashes whenever it sneaks out in the middle of the night and steals a car.
doesn't seem to have got the hang of cornering yet...

I have not updated to the latest ROM.
My X1 crashes when I leave it untouched for a period of time. The battery will be hot and no matter what button I press the screen just won't light up.
I'm trying to update to the latest official ROM now but I have no idea how to use the SEUS thing. -_-'

My R1A crashed about once to twice a day.
What I had installed is pretty much what you had plus TF3D HD as panel from itje, PlumSIP (Chinese input), SKTOOLS, SPB Shell.
It got a bit better when I switched to Daran's TF3D but that had problem of itself. And I started using SKtool's memory reclaim in the back.
Now I'm on R2A and its virtually crash free. I've yet to try TF3D as I'm waiting for a solid TF3D 2 solution as cab.
So al fingers are pointing to TF3D at the moment. Shame because besides being the best eye candy, I've also found it to be the most useful including SPB Shell

im on r2a. mine doesnt crash but hangs occasionally.
ironically its everytime when im showing it off to my frens. sometimes the screen just hangs.
wanted to show a video to my fren today when out of nowhere the video and all other videos cant be played. had to soft reset..

xcen_xda said:
I have not updated to the latest ROM.
My X1 crashes when I leave it untouched for a period of time. The battery will be hot and no matter what button I press the screen just won't light up.
I'm trying to update to the latest official ROM now but I have no idea how to use the SEUS thing. -_-'
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the million dolar question is, do you have TF3D installed on ur phone?
TBH, i'd love to get TF3D installed on my phone, but for some reason i just bound to know that it's gonna cause me problem anyway
Can we safely say that the crash free ROM is actually the official ROM now?
Or maybe someone else use cooked up ROM but still actually run the X1 crash free? leave your experience here...

What would it take to make Leo the MOST awsome phone ever?

I really like HD2, and with the New SMS Hotfix released today, it might be even better
But what do you REALLY want on the phone, that might come out?
For me, in order of how important:
1. Spotify official client
2. Companies like EA starting to develop big titles to Windows Mobile. We know HD2 is just an capable gaming device like the one Apple makes
3. A good Facebook Client (todays client is poor compared to iPhones)

Two for the price of one?? hehe

samsamuel said:
Two for the price of one?? hehe
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I don't know if this would be considered as an feature thou

Google navigator.

I would like the random freezing to stop, especially coming out of unlock.
I'd love the lockscreen to have music access, its just easier to control from there instead of sliding to the specific tab in sense.
Also I'd really like a better windows live messenger program, its just so dated and old and if they could integrate push notifications on there that would be awesome, Facebook app needs to be improved seems like a half assed attempt because everyone phone was getting the app and they had to rush it.
Other than that, Im pretty happy with the phone at the momemnt, each time they update the software it seems like a brand new phone to me.
Im still waiting on whether wm7 is going to be put on the HD2 because the tasks, calendar, notes and whatever else needs to be updated.

Just to fix the flaws eg call volume too loud and distorts/crackles, screen switches back on making calls so your ear ends up pressing other functions, and text input glitch when pressin 12#
If these were fixed it would be the best phone on the market imo, but with them it's becoming extremely irritating

IMO it already is the "most awesome" phone ever. Sure, there are (or rather have been) some teething problems with the device but with the latest SMS hotfix released today it's near perfect (apart from the camera, but this issue was well publicized as a hardware problem before most of us purchased our phones - and yes, no matter what HTC are saying now, it is a hardware fault).
An official spotify client would be nice, but really I prefer to use the built in media player and store my music on the SD card. Spotify may not be around for much longer anyway if certain analysts are to be believed.
The FB client does suck, but it does what it's supposed to - more or less. Even on the iPhone I tend not to use the app but go directly to the website. Unless all you're doing is changing your status or uploading a photo it's just as fast (and should you do a status update or share a photo there are better ways than the app anyhow - I do miss having the ability to add a caption using the MS Uploader though).
So far I haven't come across any apps I need (or want) that are not available on WM, and while the iPhone does have a uniform look, UI wise, the fact WM does not is perhaps a good thing as it allows for more variety. If anything I wish MS would come up with a standard set of skinnable controls so that applying a theme to the phone would change the entire experience - I have a feeling this is in WM7 (to some extent).
Of course, there are ways to make it even more awesome, such as a better battery life, TV out, USB host capabilities, second camera (video calls / webcam) etc, but really it doesn't matter due to the 4.3" screen we do have - that, and the processor, is what makes this device what it is. Without the larger screen it would have been just another phone. By the time WM7 is available we'll likely get another handset with all the features above, the large screen and hopefully Nvidia Tegra

I'd be happy with it if they'd just fix all the damn bugs.

The only things that I want are tv-out and a larger capacity battery. Everything else is spiffy

arxx said:
I really like HD2, and with the New SMS Hotfix released today, it might be even better
But what do you REALLY want on the phone, that might come out?
For me, in order of how important:
1. Spotify official client
2. Companies like EA starting to develop big titles to Windows Mobile. We know HD2 is just an capable gaming device like the one Apple makes
3. A good Facebook Client (todays client is poor compared to iPhones)
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Ever up until when?
Now?
or now?
or how about now?
Technology is constantly moving, expect a new handset from HTC by the end of the year that blows away the HD2...
It currently is already an awesome handset with some slight quirks/bugs that need rectifying but it will quickly be caught up by other manufacturers and also by HTC itself...

arxx said:
I really like HD2, and with the New SMS Hotfix released today, it might be even better
But what do you REALLY want on the phone, that might come out?
For me, in order of how important:
1. Spotify official client
2. Companies like EA starting to develop big titles to Windows Mobile. We know HD2 is just an capable gaming device like the one Apple makes
3. A good Facebook Client (todays client is poor compared to iPhones)
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It might be a stupid question but why don't you get an iPhone then

DinoZ1 said:
It might be a stupid question but why don't you get an iPhone then
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I have an iPhone 3G, But I think HD2 is better in many ways
Tactile feedback, 4.3" screen, HTC Sense...
I was also hoping this post would enlighten someones needs, and someone else knowing about how to for fill those needs
I love HD2, but i still have to bring two devices for using i.e. Spotify

Better battery life would make it near perfect for me.

arxx said:
I have an iPhone 3G, But I think HD2 is better in many ways
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I totally agree with you

I only need:
1. a program to disable the T9 button in the keyboard..
2. a program to disable the "Other button other than the power button can't turn on screen"
3. rotate screen will rotate every program..
would be AWESOME!! and I think I'll have the perfect phone..

completely agree with zelduy , id love those three points as well

zelduy said:
3. rotate screen will rotate every program..
would be AWESOME!!
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Have a look at PLToggle (in my signature). It's not an automatic program that rotates the display when you rotate the device, but it allows all programs to rotate with a long-press on the call button (to the rotation of your choice).
That might help

DinoZ1 said:
I totally agree with you
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I sort of agree. The HD2 would be better if everything worked properly. As a device it's better, but because my iphone 3G worked flawlessly it didn't cause me so many headaches, and therefore could be considered better

The main kicker for me would be the battery life.
If I could get about 2 days average use out of the phone that'd be perfect.
It's not happened to me yet but if I desperately needed to make a call at about 4:30pm I can see myself not having enough battery left. What are mobile phones for after all?

I just want it to do everything good without freezing