I bought my nexus the day it came out and the market was OK it had a few decent games and apps but i looked through a lot of the games today and there are tons more, and alot are from iphone developers, that i remember seeing when i owned one. Still the graphics are not the best but there not terrible either. I think we will pass the app store in 6 months to a year what do you guys think?
I think the google store should be regulated like the iPhone store. The android one is full of crap e.g. Babes Collection 15 or whatever.
Its just ridiculous, there are afew hundred worthwhile apps on the android store, the remainder need to be purged and the developers making them banned.
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I think the google store should be regulated like the iPhone store.
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This is exactly what needs to NOT happen. That is what makes the iTunes App Store suck balls.
What the Market DOES need though is a better method of users to down vote, or remove apps that are spam.
I use AppAware to keep up with the app trends. So far, so good.
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This is exactly what needs to NOT happen. That is what makes the iTunes App Store suck balls.
What the Market DOES need though is a better method of users to down vote, or remove apps that are spam.
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I agree all of the sound boards and porn apps need to be removed and it would help the market alot.
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This is exactly what needs to NOT happen. That is what makes the iTunes App Store suck balls.
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yeah that would be nice.
Its about choice...
You and I may not care for the abundance of soundboards and porn apps, but some people do. Regulation is not the way to go in an open market. Imagine if someone decided they don't enjoy programs that you do and some how got them removed. Not so fun to ban programs now, just vote with your dollars and reviews. Google just needs the ability to sort by user rating.
Totally agree, censorship would be bad and doesn't belong in a liberal democratic society. Filter instruments to get rid of all the stuff that somebody doesn't like is the better way. If you censor who decides what is appropriate or not? I don't like all the religious programs from all kind of Christian cults in the android market, do they belong censored or banned, no. Let me filter them out and I am happy
I agree that the market is going out of control but rather than some third party playing god or other supreme being I would rather see better filtering abilities on the buyer side. These along with voting and review tools allow the buyer to control what they are looking for and filter out the stuff that starts to glob up the works.
just my $0.02 worth.
marka
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This is exactly what needs to NOT happen. That is what makes the iTunes App Store suck balls.
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Uhh the iTunes App Store is perfectly fine. There are some apps that would've been nice to get through but here on Android we can install randomass APK files that aren't on the market. So I welcome better regulation on the Android Market. Clean out some crap.
If the developer really wants to push something, you can still get it off market. After all isn't that like 90% of the content that's on this forum anyway? Off market apps?
The same can be said of the Apple App Store... maybe a couple hundred truly good and useful apps, the rest are just filler fart noise apps, and what not.
There are good apps, there are bad apps, there are personal choice apps. I would rather have an open market and the ability to install whatever I want than Apple's version, where it is highly regulated, you can only load what is in the app store, and what is in that app store must fit Apple's agenda.
I don't see why apps can't be better categorised and better categorisation inforced.
Users can then choose to see/hide see items in particular categories (e.g. Porn or should I say Adult since porn is supposedly already banned). Perhaps even age rate apps.
I have to be careful letting my daughter play with my phone. She want to see apps suitable for her. It shouldn't be necessary for her to become really savy about how to filter etc...
My other gripe is why Google don't offer the 'option' of requiring a password to purchase...
Zuber
I don't want anyone telling me what I can and cannot have on my phone, so the app store is way better than apple's.
Still, better categorisation and search options should become available. You should be able to search by rating, price, downloads etc. The categorisation is sometimes silly in that twitter apps are either in 'communication' or 'social'.
I Believe a "show by Rating" option would be the best choice
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I Believe a "show by Rating" option would be the best choice
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+infinity
hahah
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+infinity
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dude, i just said the same thing a sort by rating would be epic.
They should do what Engadget does to comments. If a app is so bad it get down ranked into oblivion lol, j/k but the first idea should stand.
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You and I may not care for the abundance of soundboards and porn apps, but some people do. Regulation is not the way to go in an open market. Imagine if someone decided they don't enjoy programs that you do and some how got them removed. Not so fun to ban programs now, just vote with your dollars and reviews. Google just needs the ability to sort by user rating.
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There are porn apps??..missed that
But seriously, sorting by user ratings is quite easy to manipulate, isn´t it ?!
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They should do what Engadget does to comments. If a app is so bad it get down ranked into oblivion lol, j/k but the first idea should stand.
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I actually think that is an EXCELLENT idea. It's kind of what I was talking about, allow users to down vote apps and hidden from regular view. Or maybe have a "spam" rating or something that would hide the app from view with enough spam votes.
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I know xda-devs is more than just releasing new apps, but was thinking about this, anybody migrating to windows marketplace to release their apps instead of here?
I would, if I wrote apps that is. To have your app on that much of a market share would be great. Minus you get that many more complaints when it does not work. Just don't start making every useless app on here (useless but fun) cost 0.99$ or more. I hate the iPhone market and Android Market for that reason.
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I would, if I wrote apps that is. To have your app on that much of a market share would be great. Minus you get that many more complaints when it does not work. Just don't start making every useless app on here (useless but fun) cost 0.99$ or more. I hate the iPhone market and Android Market for that reason.
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One could always put it on the store for $1 and here for free. Let the unwashed masses pay for it.
khaytsus said:
One could always put it on the store for $1 and here for free. Let the unwashed masses pay for it.
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Ahahaha
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Ahahaha
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LMFAO!!
Brilliant idea!
will the apps in the app store be downloadable as a simple cab? is there some annoying drm involved
also, is there any reason why some developers would not release their app on both mediums
Why would developers want to pay $100 to release a free app?
i considered posting my app there, but registration is not available for Israel.
FAIL
http://www.androidcentral.com/android-phone-porn
what better reason could their possibly be to keep your android phone?
Actually, having two teens with Heros and my Evo, that porn all over the market is the one thing I DON'T like.....at all. It's ridiculuos how much is on there now!!
haha classic steve jobs ending
"...im gonna sue you..."
HAHA...why do you think we need bigger screens?
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Actually, having two teens with Heros and my Evo, that porn all over the market is the one thing I DON'T like.....at all. It's ridiculuos how much is on there now!!
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There is a whole lot more of it on www.google.com/images "insert search string here" especially after you turn safe search off. Not to mention pornotube or whatever the hell all the you tube equivalents are. I'd say the least of the worries is the mostly soft stuff in the market.
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HAHA...why do you think we need bigger screens?
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No matter what they say, size does matter
But I agree. I don't like all the **** on the Market, it just makes Android look bad.
starplaya93 said:
http://www.androidcentral.com/android-phone-porn
what better reason could their possibly be to keep your android phone?
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nice vid but old
Its funny cause before I got my EVO I never used Android just winmo. I heard about porn on Android but I don't really see it at all..
I know funny I guess I'm searching wrong or something. Even using the browser most web sites are designed for full browser..I dunno maybe I just need to research better.
Funny Vid!
Maybe they should set up age ratings then put some parental controls on there. Just have it be user or developer rated, so it's still "open"
That might keep the kiddies safe and might give developers more encouragement to make mature violent porn filled games for me(I would love Duke Nukem for android!).
Now that I think about it I havn't seen one game I would say was a M rating for android
No, android is for porn, especially the evo, check this out!
http://www.androidcentral.com/pro-tip-wipe-porn-your-phone-exchanging-it
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Actually, having two teens with Heros and my Evo, that porn all over the market is the one thing I DON'T like.....at all. It's ridiculuos how much is on there now!!
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Not to offend you but your teens are viewing more than you think is in the Android market. I know i was when i was a 'teen' and i was a good kid!!
Any good free sites...lol
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Not to offend you but your teens are viewing more than you think is in the Android market. I know i was when i was a 'teen' and i was a good kid!!
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Ya, but it doesn't need to made easy for them. You really think it is responsible to make it easy. Android needs to have an adult section. Besides the fact developers are spamming the crap out of the market with the all the porn crap. Everytime I look and see what's new, 50% of it is new porn. Look at sowallpaper.com, he/she is the king of spam!
http://www.androidcentral.com/pocket-god-android-now-available
Just wanted to give people a heads up since its such an iconic game for the iPhone.
I wont be getting it myself (wiimote + emaulators suit me just fine) but I really like the fact that more and more iPhone developers keep coming over to Android. Soon enough iPhone owners will have one less reason to justify putting up with Apples monopolistic system.
another point is that the iphone must be connected to a pc to do just about anything
whereas android users need not even own a pc/laptop, EVER, since everything can be done on the phone
to the cloud!
Not everywhere
Free Google maps navigation? Not in my country.
Free Google voice? Not in my country.
iPhone only on AT&T? Not in my country.
hold the phone....... iphone doesnt have a user replaceable battery?
also in uk iphones on every network.
kids eh.....
bah, where the hell is words with friends. They could be making so much with ad revenue
I tried it and it does not work on my N1, it crashes when it is started.
May try after the update
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another point is that the iphone must be connected to a pc to do just about anything
whereas android users need not even own a pc/laptop, EVER, since everything can be done on the phone
to the cloud!
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You do need a Google account to get access to many of the apps/games. Just a way for them to more deeply tie you into their ad spying cash cow. Nothing is perfect, son.
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You do need a Google account to get access to many of the apps/games. Just a way for them to more deeply tie you into their ad spying cash cow. Nothing is perfect, son.
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sorry, i don't understand your point, are you saying apple doesn't spy on you?
who clicks ads/reads anyway?
On the other hand, you have a choice to use Google Market and apps. If you don´t want it you don´t. Apple does not give their users much if a choice but that´s ok also. It all depends on your own needs.
Did a search for this via market and nothing comes up what gives?
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Did a search for this via market and nothing comes up what gives?
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I assume you're not in the US?
I'm iin Seattle. Using Rodriguez miui latest. Could it be my ROM?
edit * realized some of my timezones were off adjusted them, now it shows up
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Free Google maps navigation? Not in my country.
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Enjoy
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=630887
I must be missing something, I don't get the point of this game. Is it just killing off the little people in a couple of different ways in each area or is there something more to it that I can't see?
It's in the market for me down here in New Zealand.
knightnz said:
I must be missing something, I don't get the point of this game. Is it just killing off the little people in a couple of different ways in each area or is there something more to it that I can't see?
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Yea same, I don't get the point of this.. Disappointing considering people were saying this was one of the more popular games on the iPhone.
jasrups said:
Yea same, I don't get the point of this.. Disappointing considering people were saying this was one of the more popular games on the iPhone.
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they own iphones what do you expect
They don't get out much.
bud760 said:
they own iphones what do you expect
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Made my day.
bud760 said:
they own iphones what do you expect
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hahaha I played the game for a few minutes and refunded. I don't see how this could be entertaining at all
To me it just seems much more cluttered and slower.
The slower part really doesn't bother me as much as the cluttering.
Plus the "carousal" hangs too low allowing only a few apps to be seen at a time.
I expected better functionality not a "prettier" design.
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It just seems much more cluttered and slower.
The slower part really doesn't bother me as much as the cluttering.
Plus the "carousal" hangs too low allowing only a few apps to be seen at a time.
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just you my market is fine no lag not cluttered .. i say get use to it once its pushed in sure its here to stay
CheesyNutz said:
just you my market is fine no lag not cluttered .. i say get use to it once its pushed in sure its here to stay
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You don't think the individual screen, when you select an app, is just obnoxious?
mattykinsx said:
It just seems much more cluttered and slower.
The slower part really doesn't bother me as much as the cluttering.
Plus the "carousal" hangs too low allowing only a few apps to be seen at a time.
I expected better functionality not a "prettier" design.
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The design really is awful. Some complaints:
1. Why isn't the full description shown? It's one of the most important things! And you only get maybe 12 words by default. Useless and annoying to be forced to hit "more" every single time.
2. The labels are just as annoying. Single words without a description would have been fine, we end up seeing more text about what a generic UI labels means instead of what the actual app you are looking at does.
3. Bring back the old tabs. Way too much information at one time. As you said it's cluttered.
4. Again like you said, the top carousel occupies up to 1/2 of the screen. Why?
That said, the new Market looks A LOT better in landscape. Still has a lot of the same problems but at least the huge space that the carousel takes up is a little more forgiving in that orientation.
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4. Again like you said, the top carousel occupies up to 1/2 of the screen. Why?
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Yeah, I fear what this would look like on a smaller screen!
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You don't think the individual screen, when you select an app, is just obnoxious?
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Nope fine for me. Imho people find the stupidest crappy to complain about.
Not saying you in general but overall.
New market is fine imho if people don't like it learn to code get a degree get google to hire you and make something better.
Hell if enough people cry and whine about they might change it
from my phone duh
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Nope fine for me. Imho people find the stupidest crappy to complain about.
Not saying you in general but overall.
New market is fine imho if people don't like it learn to code get a degree get google to hire you and make something better.
Hell if enough people cry and whine about they might change it
from my phone duh
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So, others think the new market is flawed but their opinions are "stupid and crappy" and if they don't like the new market, they should "code one themselves" and "stop whining"?
However, you like the new market just fine and, of course, your opinion is not "stupid and crappy" at all.
Got it.
There are both good and bad on the new market. It seems like they rushed it out instead of trying it for a while to see if they even like it. I agree that not being able to see the whole description without hitting the more button is bad. The more button should be used to view the other less useful stuff at the bottom of the page like the developers email and similar products and not the product description that you are trying to view. I do like the new look, but do agree the carousel hangs too low and does not allow for more apps to be viewed on the screen. I do like the looks of the new market, but they could have done some things differently to make it a better user experience. I know that this is what it is and I will deal with it, but I do have the right to complain about the things I don't like. I will deal with because I have to, but I feel that a lot of folks are going to complain and that another update fixing some of these issues is imminent.
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So, others think the new market is flawed but their opinions are "stupid and crappy" and if they don't like the new market, they should "code one themselves" and "stop whining"?
However, you like the new market just fine and, of course, your opinion is not "stupid and crappy" at all.
Got it.
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No opinions are like assh¤les everyone has one. Mines no more important than the other.
from my phone duh
There are a lot of devs that are royally pissed off about this update, people outside the US were having almost all of their orders declined and in turn losing money.
how do u install the new market
I already dumped it myself. To much going on. Half the screen is gone by the carousel. It will prolly grow on us once we are all forced to have it.
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I'm still on the old market. Change is good people.
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DirtyShroomz said:
I'm still on the old market. Change is good people.
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Change is good? There's good change and then there's bad change. I usually love any change - I don't love this.
Dear Google,
As much as I like change, this new market design is simply atrocious. Nobody is going to use the scrolling view on top, and it takes 2/3 of the screen. You tried to fit a square in a circle, and did so poorly. It reminds me of a xbox marketplace; just a bunch of graphic throw up. Now, I like having everything on one page, but why minimize the description? The most important part of buying and or upgrading is the description.
On top of that, the placement and order of the pages feel like a maze to me. There is no indication how far back you can go in the application without being sent to your home screen.
While I am sure this app will serve its purpose, I really do expect more from Google come next market update.
From,
A concerned Android enthusiast
How do i get it? i still have the old one...
If you really want to try out the new market it's right here:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=869522
If you think it's too cluttered, set your lcd_density = 162. That'll take care of it.
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Change is good? There's good change and then there's bad change. I usually love any change - I don't love this.
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I don't think you love anything android
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drmacinyasha said:
If you think it's too cluttered, set your lcd_density = 162. That'll take care of it.
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And make everything else look terrible lol.
I created this thread to get other people's opinions. Everyone's opinion is as valid as the next so let's try in keep that in mind when posting.
Totally added a poll.
wow - stupid but fun to waste 5 minutes on.
http://blog.hunch.com/?p=51781
that was probably commissioned by apple,
Iphone - older, more affluent
Android - younger, less affluent
Looking ahead, iphone = doomed to a ~10% niche market, just like the Mac
Put me in the asshole camp.
It states that android users are 50% more likely to use Yahoo mail.
I call bull**** on that one.
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It states that android users are 50% more likely to use Yahoo mail.
I call bull**** on that one.
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Lol of course
Edit: what the hell android users more likely follow than iphone users lead WTF? Also bull****
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86% more likely to live in the country
well that's obviously because AT&T has crap coverage in rural areas. Same can be said about iPhone more likely to live in the city. Verizon is better at least, but around here if you live in the sticks you are best going with US Cellular who obviously doesn't carry the iPhone, but they have a few Android devices.
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wow - stupid but fun to waste 5 minutes on.
http://blog.hunch.com/?p=51781
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I'm surrounded by assholes!
jdelano said:
that was probably commissioned by apple,
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I say almost definately an Apple person. "Ugly phones that do everything vs Sleek phones that do less."
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It states that android users are 50% more likely to use Yahoo mail.
I call bull**** on that one.
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Well, if 2 out of 1000 iPhoners have Yahoo mail and 3 out of 1000 Androiders, then that would be "50% more likely," even though essentially nobody on either side actually has it.
It's probably true, I would bet, because most of the iPhone people I know don't even realize that AOL isn't the only email provider on the internet.
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It states that android users are 50% more likely to use Yahoo mail.
I call bull**** on that one.
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I use the following email services..
Yahoo
Hotmail
Aol
Gmail
Now ofcourse I use others more thn others.
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xopher.hunter said:
what the hell android users more likely follow than iphone users lead WTF? Also bull****
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Actually, it says that iphone users are "more likely to say they lead," which I tend to believe. Studies have shown that "popular kids" and those who think they are trend-setters tend to be the biggest followers (copying what they see on TV, movies, ads, etc.). iPhone users believe they are leaders and trend-setters because they're doing what they see other popular people do, but clearly there's a difference between saying you're a leader and actually being one.
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I use the following email services..
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Hotmail
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Gmail
Now ofcourse I use others more thn others.
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Yeah, I was going to come here and say that might also mean android users are just more likely to have multiple email addresses.
Edit: And now that I've continued reading, I see that is not case. I'm skeptical. Though we are more likely to be gmail users, so, maybe we don't need the other crap.
I had to come comment on the "122% more likely to want a pretty looking, but worthless, device" that's the iPhone demo to a T
(not that the iPhone is worthless, but they definitely have that attitude.)
That is the dumbest **** I ever read. Apple propaganda. Sad thing is it will actually work on someone.
I suppose the take home message here is that android has come full circle. We here on XDA aren't your average android user anymore. The average android user is someone that went to best buy and figured "if I'm going to pay ____, I may as well get a smartphone."
In other words, this is really a testament to the extent that android has done away with the concept of "dumbphones," more than it is a statement about user differences.
This may as well be iPhone users vs the public.
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That is the dumbest **** I ever read. Apple propaganda. Sad thing is it will actually work on someone.
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Well, I don't think "propaganda" is fair. I don't think anyone is trying to pull one over on anyone, or make a point.
It's just important to keep in mind that this is a self selecting survey, with no verification. Perhaps iPhone users exaggerated, or weren't quite honest with themselves, as someone already hinted at. To me a large number of the answers iPhone look like they're trying too hard to look special/deep. "Look at me! My fav ice cream is salted caramel, my fav food is tapas, my fav fruit is the clementine!"
Edit: not to mention a lot of the points are "iPhone users are more likely to spend money, regardless of the return" Well, no kidding. Maybe way more iPhone users use gogoinflight because android users, correctly, IMO, think paying $13 to have internet access for 3 hours is absurd. So, you can take a lot of these data points either way.
whats the problem with clementines?
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whats the problem with clementines?
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The fruit-to-effort ratio is too low.
I mean really, if I'm going to go to all that trouble to peel the darn thing, I should get a little more for the effort. iPhone people probably have an app to peel it for them.
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The fruit-to-effort ratio is too low.
I mean really, if I'm going to go to all that trouble to peel the darn thing, I should get a little more for the effort. iPhone people probably have an app to peel it for them.
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I LOL'd at this one. "fruit-to-effort ratio"...that made my day so far, thank you for that.
And FWIW, I had never heard of salted caramel ice cream until recently. And it is fricking delicious. I love caramel anything (within reason of course) so that makes sense.
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The fruit-to-effort ratio is too low.
I mean really, if I'm going to go to all that trouble to peel the darn thing, I should get a little more for the effort. iPhone people probably have an app to peel it for them.
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i take it youve never peeled one then, because the peel comes off of them way easier than an orange, and they have no pith. pound wise, they are cheaper too if you buy in a 10 lb bag.