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Ever since I have my HTC Magic on Vodafone UK, I have that utterly annoying issue of Magic's internal browser reloading webpages that were previously loaded and switched into background. Simple example: I load a webpage, making sure it's fully loaded. Then I go back to home screen, play around with icons or other apps etc., or open new browser window and load another page. After short while, when I go back to that first loaded page (already fully loaded and sitting in the background) - I get blank browser window, and page gets reloaded from the scratch. Uber-annoying, especially when I try to get few pages pre-loaded for later reading while in the Tube.
There is a bug floating around Android's bugtrack: http://code.google.com/p/android/issues/detail?id=2171 - however I was wondering whether other Magic users are experiencing same thing and if there's any workaround for this?
eva_d said:
Ever since I have my HTC Magic on Vodafone UK, I have that utterly annoying issue of Magic's internal browser reloading webpages that were previously loaded and switched into background. Simple example: I load a webpage, making sure it's fully loaded. Then I go back to home screen, play around with icons or other apps etc., or open new browser window and load another page. After short while, when I go back to that first loaded page (already fully loaded and sitting in the background) - I get blank browser window, and page gets reloaded from the scratch. Uber-annoying, especially when I try to get few pages pre-loaded for later reading while in the Tube.
There is a bug floating around Android's bugtrack: http://code.google.com/p/android/issues/detail?id=2171 - however I was wondering whether other Magic users are experiencing same thing and if there's any workaround for this?
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Is it a bug or is it just that the web browser has been moved off RAM to make space for another application so that when its re-opened, it has to reload everything again.
If you load a website that is just text only without any graphics or javascript and then go to another application and come back, it will not be reloaded, because the footprint is small.
dwang said:
Is it a bug or is it just that the web browser has been moved off RAM to make space for another application so that when its re-opened, it has to reload everything again.
If you load a website that is just text only without any graphics or javascript and then go to another application and come back, it will not be reloaded, because the footprint is small.
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Yes, I can understand this point of view, however I'd still regard this as a bug, or at least as a feature that massively undermines user experience as for internet-centric mobile device...
In fact, this is the very first device I've had in my hand that has such 'feature', in every other phone or internet tablet (like Nokia N810) that has multi-window browser, I am able to load many webpages simultaneously and keep them persistent in the background. The new and shiny, internet-centric HTC Magic suddenly offers that 'magic' feature of saving RAM at a cost of utterly horrendous user experience...
dwang said:
Is it a bug or is it just that the web browser has been moved off RAM to make space for another application so that when its re-opened, it has to reload everything again.
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Anyway, content should then have been cached on sdcard (or internal memory).
have you tried swapper?
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=483110
that extends the internal ram out to flash so maybe that will help.
Seems to work fairly well. I can have imeem streaming and other stuff and the browser pages still stay in "memory" and aren't reloaded.
dwang said:
have you tried swapper?
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=483110
that extends the internal ram out to flash so maybe that will help.
Seems to work fairly well. I can have imeem streaming and other stuff and the browser pages still stay in "memory" and aren't reloaded.
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Good idea, but I'd need to root my phone first, which is actually quite good excuse to do it.
Thanks for a tip!
eva_d said:
Good idea, but I'd need to root my phone first, which is actually quite good excuse to do it.
Thanks for a tip!
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yeah, i've been using it for a few hours and once everything is loaded into memory and swap, and its not bad and I haven't encoutered a browser page reload yet.
Of course when a swap from flash to memory occurs, there's a pretty significant pause, but thats to be expected.
Just a quick update, I've finally managed to install swapper and set the swap space to 32MB. It helps to the issue, however when many other windows are opened, there is still that reloading issue...
I guess it's not a bug, but just a feature of Android and its 'clever' memory management. Fingers crossed that they would improve it in future versions...
Dear All,
I am from Singapore abt to recontract with M1 for LEgend (trading in my Nokia E75), i was wondering is there multitouch for legend internet browser and picture viewer?
As my concern is that certain countries has multi-touch disabled.
Anyyone help?
Can't confirm, but I find it highly unlikely HTC would disable multi-touch based on region.
Besides, check out HTC's South East Asia site. The Legend specs page lists pinch-to-zoom as a capability.
hi David, I'm from Malaysia and my unit have multitouch for both browser and picture viewer so I don't think that will differ alot from the Singapore unit.
r47z said:
hi David, I'm from Malaysia and my unit have multitouch for both browser and picture viewer so I don't think that will differ alot from the Singapore unit.
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Thanks bro ok then confirm can buy le, anyway hows the legend internet browser compared to iphone's?
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Can't confirm, but I find it highly unlikely HTC would disable multi-touch based on region.
Besides, check out HTC's South East Asia site. The Legend specs page lists pinch-to-zoom as a capability.
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pinch to zoom is their new Leap feature. but i like that feature better than to swipe and swipe hehe
hong kong's has multitouch
i like Android's browser over iphone's but my favourite is still the N900's.
yellowchilli said:
hong kong's has multitouch
i like Android's browser over iphone's but my favourite is still the N900's.
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Hi yellowchilli,
wat would be the diff between the Legend browser and the iphone browser as i surf alone this is impt criteria.
thanks
davidwong said:
Hi yellowchilli,
wat would be the diff between the Legend browser and the iphone browser as i surf alone this is impt criteria.
thanks
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hi david
first of all, here's what i've been using: the ipod touch 2g (532mhz) for almost a year now; and the Legend (600mhz) for a little under a month.
differences I've noticed so far:
mobile safari:
+UI feels sublime
+handles portrait<->landscape modes better
+more intuitive
-page reflow takes time
-strange crashes e.g. even on a regular google search page
-NO FLASH
Android browser:
+hasnt yet crashed once
+page seemingly never reflows
+text reflow is pretty amazing
+Flash (lite??)
+faster browsing
-limited to only only 3 windows (hard coded or dependent on RAM?)
-UI not quite as smooth
seems to me its a form vs function kinda thing here..
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Hi yellowchilli,
wat would be the diff between the Legend browser and the iphone browser as i surf alone this is impt criteria.
thanks
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Just to add to yellowchilli's comments...
I think the Android browser is clearly superior to Mobile Safari. Here's why:
1. Full screen browsing. Safari always displays the top and bottom bars which wastes a bunch of space, especially in landscape.
2. Text-reflow is an essential feature, not just a gimmick. You know longer have to scroll horizontally as well as vertically to read zoomed-in text. Once you've experienced this, you will never go back to Mobile Safari.
3. You never (ever!) see the checkerboard pattern on the Legend (or Desire) if you flick scroll really fast on a site. Even on the iPhone3GS, you will see the checkerboard pattern as the screen tries to refresh the content.
4. Tabs start loading in the background as soon as you instruct it to. This saves a lot of time. In Mobile Safari, only the currently active tab gets loaded. The other tabs starts loading after you switch to them. Btw, the maximum number of tabs in Android is actually 4.
5. Since Android has a file system, you can download files from the browser. Other than photos, this is impossible on Mobile Safari.
davidwong said:
Dear All,
I am from Singapore abt to recontract with M1 for LEgend (trading in my Nokia E75), i was wondering is there multitouch for legend internet browser and picture viewer?
As my concern is that certain countries has multi-touch disabled.
Anyyone help?
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Hi david,
Just got the legend not too long, and I'm from Singapore. Browser and picture gallery supports pinch-to-zoom. Very well, i must add. Really love the function. But note, not in google maps though.
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hi david
first of all, here's what i've been using: the ipod touch 2g (532mhz) for almost a year now; and the Legend (600mhz) for a little under a month.
differences I've noticed so far:
mobile safari:
+UI feels sublime
+handles portrait<->landscape modes better
+more intuitive
-page reflow takes time
-strange crashes e.g. even on a regular google search page
-NO FLASH
Android browser:
+hasnt yet crashed once
+page seemingly never reflows
+text reflow is pretty amazing
+Flash (lite??)
+faster browsing
-limited to only only 3 windows (hard coded or dependent on RAM?)
-UI not quite as smooth
seems to me its a form vs function kinda thing here..
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THanks Bro yellowchilli,
good to hear as this was one of my stumbling block in deciding, ok i will be getting the legend this weekend yea!!
ohyeahar said:
Just to add to yellowchilli's comments...
I think the Android browser is clearly superior to Mobile Safari. Here's why:
1. Full screen browsing. Safari always displays the top and bottom bars which wastes a bunch of space, especially in landscape.
2. Text-reflow is an essential feature, not just a gimmick. You know longer have to scroll horizontally as well as vertically to read zoomed-in text. Once you've experienced this, you will never go back to Mobile Safari.
3. You never (ever!) see the checkerboard pattern on the Legend (or Desire) if you flick scroll really fast on a site. Even on the iPhone3GS, you will see the checkerboard pattern as the screen tries to refresh the content.
4. Tabs start loading in the background as soon as you instruct it to. This saves a lot of time. In Mobile Safari, only the currently active tab gets loaded. The other tabs starts loading after you switch to them. Btw, the maximum number of tabs in Android is actually 4.
5. Since Android has a file system, you can download files from the browser. Other than photos, this is impossible on Mobile Safari.
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Dear Ohyeahar,
ya i love the reflow of my opera in my diamond, just that the screen too small.
thanks for the in depth addition
myglowinghalo said:
Hi david,
Just got the legend not too long, and I'm from Singapore. Browser and picture gallery supports pinch-to-zoom. Very well, i must add. Really love the function. But note, not in google maps though.
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hehe... i seldom use googles maps as i am using a dedicated car gps as sometimes the connection is too slow for the phone to load the map as i am driving and its don have the turn by turn voice guidance (though the beta version i heard now has it)
if u really need multi touch in the maps. download this mod, works in legend with multitouch.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=630887
Hey folks ... first post, and I did try to search for this but came up with nothing.
Wondering if there's a fix or workaround for this. Some pages, when I load them, are not resized correctly for the browser. I would post a link, but ... you can google search for "best of the web today" and the first match is a page that does this wrong-resize behavior.
While it's loading, it is sized correctly. But once it completes loading, it resizes and it's too wide, so I have to scroll horizontally to read it.
This is just one example, but there are many pages that do this.
If I stop the page load before it's 100%, then it stays sized correctly for the browser (well, the block indents still run off the right side, but this seems to be true for every single thing that has block indents). So something that happens when it completes the loading is the problem. FWIW stopping it at like 95% doesn't seem to affect the content.
Any of you seen this, or know how to get around it? It's becoming quite annoying.
have you tried an alternate browser?
no ... is there an alternate browser that 1. doesn't embed ads and 2. supports flash?
tried it in skyfire, same problem.
flash isn't supported with android except the new 2.2 froyo build. even then, most official froyo builds haven't been released. there is a froyo build for the aria built from cyanogen mod source, but flash hasn't been figured out yet.
a lot of people like dolphin browser. opera mini is pretty popular as well.
@mattbollenbach, I think the OP may have meant "FlashLITE support", one of the nicer HTC features, if you ask me. I don't know if there are other browsers that support HTC's FlashLITE, but it shouldn't take too much to test that out.
Personally, the only thing that annoys me about the browser is when I load it, google is my homepage and it never displays correctly... haha, always way to big for the screen. Obviously, this is nothing more than the tiniest of gripes.
Update:
Some headway is being made on this. See here:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=907659&page=8
Ok, here's the damage report.
Serendipity ROM: animated GIF broken AND checkerboards
Phoenix ROM: animated GIF broken AND checkerboards
Firefly ROM: animated GIF broken AND DOES NOT checkerboard (with latest version ONLY)
Cognition 3.0x: animated GIF WORKS AND DOES NOT checkerboard
ROM Kitchen: animated GIF broken AND DOES NOT checkerboard (with XWJS3 w/2.2 browser ONLY)
Perception 10.x: animated GIF broken AND DOES NOT checkerboard
di11igaf ROM: animated GIF broken AND DOES NOT checkerboard
Ultimate ROM: animated GIF broken AND checkerboards
I have tested all ROMs released that were developed based on JPY Froyo 2.2.1. This includes the latest Phoenix, Perception, Serendipity, Doc Gingerborg, and others. I spent 2 entire sleepless nights doing complete flashes from scratch, without any data on the phone, and came up with this out of all of them.
While in general they are good, fast, and stable, there are a number of issues they are having that I believe are inherent to the base firmware. Some are fixable, such as the Wifi battery drain bug; others, I'm not sure. The main one, in my opinion, are general issues with the internet/browser rendering of Froyo.
The problems are as follows:
1. Animated GIFs do not render properly. They are very random and sometimes to not work at all. You should try it and see for yourself.
2. Trying to type into fields are VERY hit and miss. For example, when browsing to a forum, such as this one, when responding to a thread, try clicking in the field where you type the response; what happens is that the cursor goes WAY up the screen, while you are left staring at the bottom of the blank white space. This happens in any forum. Some forums do not have apps developed for mobile, so it renders it useless.
3. Tapping and holding (moving) the page around in general is very iffy. Most of the time you can see a checkered background when this happens, instead of it being seamless, like it is in Froyo 2.2 ROMs. It's easy to see this on the Google homepage when it opens.
We all know that Android OSes use a cut down version of the Dolphin browser. So I installed Dolphin HD. Same problems. Only when I installed mobile Firefox as well as mobile Opera, do the problems disappear. It seems that if you open these browsers, go to a page that has animated GIFs, it sort of "kick starts" the rendering engine, from which point animated GIFs start working in the Dolphin based browser. However, the moment you close mobile Firefox or Opera, the animated GIF problem returns. Also, the issue is that using those browsers are not a solution, since they are not fully featured, underperform, slow, and are in general underdeveloped, and not suitable for daily use. I also tried taking the browser from the older versions and putting it in the new ones, but it didn't help.
That's basically all I came up with for now. That made the experience a break-it deal for me, so I simply moved back, in this case, to Perception 9.5, which works flawlessly. Any of the ROMs based on the older 2.2 Froyo firmware work perfectly.
If anyone has anything to add to this thread, that's great. This is mainly to see whether or not the ROM devs here can actually fix such a thing, or if it's something lower level. Some input from the ROM devs would be great.
If mods do not think this is the proper place for this topic, please feel free to move it.
What site is giving you problems with the gifs...I'll go try it?
Mac
Any site that has animated GIFs. Try this one:
http://www.animatedgif.net/
ajm786 said:
Any site that has animated GIFs. Try this one:
http://www.animatedgif.net/
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Well..the top banner on that site is working fine for me..as well as clicking on any of the sites that offer animated gifs... All of the animated gifs I see are ...well..animated....?
So...what exactly am I to look for to see if they aren't working properly..and I am using Phoenix 2.0 stock browser..
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OK...I see what you talking about now...it's the embedded re-direct adds that aren't showing up for you...correct ?
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No. If you reload the page, or back out of that one and go to another, it will randomly not work. Not the top GIF one, but all the small GIFs that are supposed to be animated.
Some other people were complaining of this same issue. It's hit/miss and very random.
I have to agree. When scrolling around a large image in the browser, it starts resizing randomly. I also have not been able to get any animated gifs to work in the browser.
i noticed that when scrolling up/down a page with large images, the stock browser reformats the text & breaks up images so part of the text & image looks smaller while the rest is original size. when i finish scrolling, the text & images are reformatted correctly. it's not a big deal to me. animated gifs that don't animate aren't a big loss to me either, i find them annoying
sent from my captivate + di11igaf 3.0.2 + speedmod k12k
sublimaze said:
i noticed that when scrolling up/down a page with large images, the stock browser reformats the text & breaks up images so part of the text & image looks smaller while the rest is original size. when i finish scrolling, the text & images are reformatted correctly. it's not a big deal to me. animated gifs that don't animate aren't a big loss to me either, i find them annoying
sent from my captivate + di11igaf 3.0.2 + speedmod k12k
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Well, there are some forums that use animated GIFs (like weather), so it renders it useless.
I could possibly live without the animated GIF, but posting in a forum is basically impossible using the ROM. Try it on these forums (NOT using XDA app).
JPY browser has terrible issues for me.
Sent from my SAMSUNG-SGH-I897 using XDA App
I agree, the JPY browser is almost un-usable for me. Dolphin Mini has been my replacement so far.
ajm786 said:
Well, there are some forums that use animated GIFs (like weather), so it renders it useless.
I could possibly live without the animated GIF, but posting in a forum is basically impossible using the ROM. Try it on these forums (NOT using XDA app).
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Not its not as i just posted this from my phone using dolphin hd mate
may want to try an older browser along with an older, non-2.2.1 libwebcore.so found in /system/lib.
this is one of the main reasons i didnt want to even make a 2.2.1 rom, its decent, the browser loads pages faster generally i think, but it checkerboards like an iphone 3g, along with the other problems you mentioned. theres other things i dont like about it but thats not what this thread is for, but changing those files may help with those problems.
di11igaf said:
may want to try an older browser along with an older, non-2.2.1 libwebcore.so found in /system/lib.
this is one of the main reasons i didnt want to even make a 2.2.1 rom, its decent, the browser loads pages faster generally i think, but it checkerboards like an iphone 3g, along with the other problems you mentioned. theres other things i dont like about it but thats not what this thread is for, but changing those files may help with those problems.
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I'm intrigued. Is the libwebcore.so responsible for "rendering" webpages? I might load up Phoenix again to give it a shot.
shaolin95 said:
Not its not as i just posted this from my phone using dolphin hd mate
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I'm confused. As soon as I load up a reply page and click in the area to type, the "cursor" goes way up the page and is basically impossible for me to type. I have to scroll up and as soon as I enter one letter, the screen goes way back down the blank area, and I have to rinse/repeat. For each letter.
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I'm intrigued. Is the libwebcore.so responsible for "rendering" webpages? I might load up Phoenix again to give it a shot.
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im not saying im 100% sure it will work as i havent tried it, but it should. im gonna try it tonight before i release a 2.2.1 build, and if it works, ill include and post back here and let you know.
worst case senario browser FC's, but its worth a shot if it does work.
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im not saying im 100% sure it will work as i havent tried it, but it should. im gonna try it tonight before i release a 2.2.1 build, and if it works, ill include and post back here and let you know.
worst case senario browser FC's, but its worth a shot if it does work.
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Yeah, just tried it, and it didn't work. Loaded up a 2.2.1 based ROM (Doc ROM), replaced the libwebcore.so with a one from Perception 9.5, and it just FCs the browser when trying to type in a blank field.
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Yeah, just tried it, and it didn't work. Loaded up a 2.2.1 based ROM (Doc ROM), replaced the libwebcore.so with a one from Perception 9.5, and it just FCs the browser when trying to type in a blank field.
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did you replace the browser as well, i was saying replace both, even then it may not work, but if you didnt youll have a better shot of it working with a browser from the same build you got the libwebcore from
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did you replace the browser as well, i was saying replace both, even then it may not work, but if you didnt youll have a better shot of it working with a browser from the same build you got the libwebcore from
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Yes. When I got the FC, the next thing I did was replace the browser with one from Perception 9.5, and then, as a final resort, rebooted. Same ordeal; FC when typing into a field (in landscape mode).
Go to any page that plays audio from the flash player.
Is it playing ok?
Audio plays at half speed for me. but video plays fine.
I'm getting quite annoyed at my phone's lack of RAM.
I browse the internet and constantly open new windows (up to the max 4 allowed by the HTC browser, but that's another story) so that I can quickly go back a page when I need to.
If for some reason I go and use a couple of other apps on the phone, and then come back to the browser I constantly find that the oldest 3 pages have dropped completely out of RAM, and the 4th one has as well, and that last one alone loads up again.
This is annoying, time-consuming and messes up my browsing session. Is there some way I can prioritise the browser so that most other apps get killed off before it does?
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I'm getting quite annoyed at my phone's lack of RAM.
I browse the internet and constantly open new windows (up to the max 4 allowed by the HTC browser, but that's another story) so that I can quickly go back a page when I need to.
If for some reason I go and use a couple of other apps on the phone, and then come back to the browser I constantly find that the oldest 3 pages have dropped completely out of RAM, and the 4th one has as well, and that last one alone loads up again.
This is annoying, time-consuming and messes up my browsing session. Is there some way I can prioritise the browser so that most other apps get killed off before it does?
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Try using firefox instead on the defualt browser .its not perfect yet but its getting
better and better with every beta release .
I don't think an alternate browser will help with Android unwantedly killing off processes.
Incidentally, I tried Firefox a couple of months ago and found it to be completely unusable - I take it it's worth checking out again now then?
Another possibility is to set the Android memory manager to be less aggressive in removing things from memory (you can use an app like AutoKiller to change the settings easily---try tweaking the settings to see if helps with your usage model).
I know AutoKiller will also allow you to lower the oom value for the process (the lower the oom, the less likely the memory manager will kill it in the background), but I don't think this will help for the browser (since the OS will dynamically change its oom each time you bring it to the foreground and send it to the background again). If someone knows a way to make the oom value permanently lower, that sounds like exactly what you want.
Maybe someone else has some ideas. I know often times launchers will have the option to keep themselves in memory, and CM6 has the option to keep messaging in memory (more like your situation), so it should be doable.
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I don't think an alternate browser will help with Android unwantedly killing off processes.
Incidentally, I tried Firefox a couple of months ago and found it to be completely unusable - I take it it's worth checking out again now then?
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defo ,its much better now i figured since you were annoyed by 4 tab limit
you might find firefox helpful. because it doesnt have limit or if it does its more than 4 for sure also it has an aption called (your tabs from last time) which again i think
you will find it usefull ,you can also sync it with you pcs firefox too .
EDIT: I just tried it to make sure, even if you reboot your phone
and open firefox again you can just press on (your tabs from last time)
and it will restore them all.
The way I see it there are a few things you can do...
Firstly, you could try a renice script. It does what other people have suggested and changes the oomph value to what you like. It was commonly used on the g1 for the dialer so that you wouldn't miss phone calls lol. Its easy to do if you know the syntax, I would make you one myself if I was near a computer lol.
Another thing you could do is try an aosp/CM based rom, as those generally have much, much lower ram usage compared to sense.
Lastly you could try a different browser. There are so many to choose from I'm sure one will fit your needs.
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I use autokiller on my DZ, you have to have root to use this tho... quite satisfied about it, almost all the time 90+ free ram even when doing heavy stuff... quits the unused shizzle...
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I HIGHLY recommend Dolphin Browser HD.
It is significantly faster than the stock Browser and I have had no issues with Android closing it down. One feature I like is that there is actually an 'Exit' button in the menu for those individuals who have OCD like me and don't like the Browser running in the background when not wanted.
Thus far, this is the best mobile Browser I have used. That being said, I have not tried Firefox and have been a regular user of Opera Mini in the past on other devices.
You should try miren browser once, i'm using it now instead of dolphin hd, and there is a exit button in the menu to. I think its better styled, it has got all the features of dolphin HD without all the bloating around... no gestures tho
cheers
I think its more of poorly optimized software because im pretty sure that google devs don't even utilize the full 512mb of RAM in 2.2. Chances are its the HTC sense limiting you.
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Yeah I don't think this issue is anything to do with a lack of RAM.
I may try another ROM, however I'm just not up for flashing all the time like I used to with my old Desire or G1 before that. I want a 100% working ROM, preferably something that allows overclocking with a kernel that doesn't break stuff.
And I also want my HTC phone dialler/contacts as well, not vanilla or a cheap copy from the Market. Oh, and I hate the vanilla lockscreen - it's just hard to operate compared to the Sense one. I don't know why it's so hard to unlock side to side on Android - the iPhone takes a little flick and it's unlocked - vanilla Android is like a mission to ensure I've dragged it far enough across to unlock.
And I don't want my keyboard or capacitive keys or quick keys mullered up (I am running a Euro DZ).
If these issues can be dealt with easily when setting up the ROM/phone then I'm prepared to devote a little time to doing it.
So - any suggestions, please?
dont use htc sense roms.
I'm running the virtuous sense rom with his advanced kernel, ive ran the normal rom about 2 weeks, and ive yet to see differences other then a huuuuuuuge speed increase... i would just try it once if i were you its such a relieve...
I played with the latest over the weekend. I ended up uninstalling it. I'd hit a page with scripting and then firefox would lock up and crash.
Web2Go isn't perfect, but at least it doesn't crash as often.
This has nothing to do with RAM. This phone handles RAM just fine. Use Miren and thank me later. It's the best browser by far!
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You should try miren browser once, i'm using it now instead of dolphin hd, and there is a exit button in the menu to. I think its better styled, it has got all the features of dolphin HD without all the bloating around... no gestures tho
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No text reflow = showstopper.
Unless I'm just being blind, I can't find any way to enable this in the settings for Miren.
It's sense. Sense roms use way more RAM than vanilla roms do. Also check out dolphin HD or dolphin mini browser.
Another issue I'm having which points to lack of RAM (whether this is due to Sense sucking it all up or not) is that programs do not stay in in RAM for that long, ie I go away from an app then return after using a few other apps (not massive games or anything) and when I return the first app's UI has been kicked out of memory and has to load up again, causing anything between a momentary (dialler, mesaging) to an annoyingly long (browser, maps, market) white screen, as data is downloaded again.
People talk a lot of sh*t about the iPhone, but cacheing (caching? sp?) a copy of the last screen for each app before it's closed so you instantly get a visual image of the UI of the app following the opening animation is a pretty good idea IMO.
Has anyone here used the Desire HD? I would think with the 768MB of RAM on that badboy this would be less of a problem.
setspeed said:
Another issue I'm having which points to lack of RAM (whether this is due to Sense sucking it all up or not) is that programs do not stay in in RAM for that long, ie I go away from an app then return after using a few other apps (not massive games or anything) and when I return the first app's UI has been kicked out of memory and has to load up again, causing anything between a momentary (dialler, mesaging) to an annoyingly long (browser, maps, market) white screen, as data is downloaded again.
People talk a lot of sh*t about the iPhone, but cacheing (caching? sp?) a copy of the last screen for each app before it's closed so you instantly get a visual image of the UI of the app following the opening animation is a pretty good idea IMO.
Has anyone here used the Desire HD? I would think with the 768MB of RAM on that badboy this would be less of a problem.
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I've now installed Enomther's Official rom - what a difference to the speed of the phone! It absolutely flies, even when clocked at a lower CPU speed, and it appears to retain stuff in memory a lot better than the standard Sense rom. Also, there's over 100MB more of free RAM afte a fresh boot.
I'm definitely sold on the efficiency of stock Android, but I'm now missing some of my HTC goodies... I don't think anyone can deny that the HTC dialler is a different level to the rudimentary Android one. And I am missing my HTC browser - that seems a bit smoother, and the text reflow is more reliable, the stock browser seems a bit temperamental on that front.
Other than that, I can live without all the other Sense stuff. So my next question is, can the dialler and browser be installed on my new rom? Do they have any dependencies which would prevent me using them? How would I go about ripping the apps from the HTC rom? I'm an ADB noob so I need some kind expert to tell me how