Hi Guys and Girls,
This is my first HTC device and im loving it so far, being a long user for wimo devices, recently come from an omnia i8000, huge improvement going to the HTC, i wont look back.
Has anyone expericened missing email accounts? it still seems to be in the list but its hidden? i can create a new account with a different account name, and it works but is there any fix?
Thanks for your help
Bj,
I experienced the same problem today. However, I noticed that the mail settings had disappeared in addition to the accounts no longer showing up.
The only way I was able to solve the problem was by deleting the mailboxes and re-creating them.
Hopefully there is a better solution found in case this happens again.
Same thing happened to me just yesterday, wonder what's the cause.
Anyway I had the settings backed up to a cab as described here so a reinstall of that set them back up in seconds.
Have the same problem, but my internet settings was lost to...
Any fix for this other than the obe above?
//Johan
I had same misterious problem two times, and I didn't understand why...
:-(
Even I've had the same problem twice..and in addition to losing the email accounts, all my apps which required login like facebook, fring, etc stopped remembering usernames and passwords. Even if I selected save password, it kept asking me everytime is started the app.
The first time it happened i did not notice why, but the second time it happed immediately after a soft reset done using BSB Tweaks after making some changes in it.
I have removed BSB Tweaks for the time being, so will wait and see if it happens again.
the email problem can be solved by going to email- tab --> menu --> account settings (may have another name) --> choose your disappered account. you will notice some of your settins are lost, in my case the mail servers and the username. type in the missing information, and hit 'done', your email acc will be visible again.
Missing Accounts
Same problem after I installed the newest firmware in June. Never happened before, since then TWICE, so it must be the issue of the new FW. Sorry wergor, the solution you offer sucks. Doesn't solve the cause!
ricz73 said:
Sorry wergor, the solution you offer sucks. Doesn't solve the cause!
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i know, but at lest you don't have to set up a new acc w/ a different name and lose all your emails.....
try this next time:
http://www.freewarepocketpc.net/ppc-download-mail-account-repair.html
Bjs051084 said:
Hi Guys and Girls,
This is my first HTC device and im loving it so far, being a long user for wimo devices, recently come from an omnia i8000, huge improvement going to the HTC, i wont look back.
Has anyone expericened missing email accounts? it still seems to be in the list but its hidden? i can create a new account with a different account name, and it works but is there any fix?
Thanks for your help
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Hey,
I found a solution to this problem that I think works. The first time this happened my email accounts disappeared and all of my logins for other things (facebook, etc) also stopped working. This just happened again with no recent mods to the phone, and the only add-on I have is C00kie's Home Tabs (which I didn't have the first time).
The first time I used all the missing settings as an opportunity to upgrade my software. This time I'm on the road and I don't have time to fool with it. Happily I did figure out a way to resurrect the vanished accounts.
As you stated, if you try to recreate the settings, the system will tell you that the account exists, forcing you to create the same settings with a different name. You can probably find your original settings by doing the following:
Go to the settings tab. (Scroll left from your home)
Choose "Data Services"
Scroll down to "E-Mail"
Here you should see whatever accounts you created, even if they don't show up in your email tab proper. Select them and update your passwords (if they're missing, mine were). Everything should look normal.
As I said, I'm on data roam and I couldn't get my OTA download to work where I am. Hopefully when I get back I'll know for sure. Give it a try and I hope it helps you.
Dan
Dan.S - yes, it works, thanks so much. ;-)
It works
Yes, works. In same time, I lost my ability to connect to Facebook. Whenever I try to input name (email) and password, I get instant answer that there is problem with connection. Maybe password also lost. No idea where to find solution.
Dan.S said:
Hey,
I found a solution to this problem that I think works. The first time this happened my email accounts disappeared and all of my logins for other things (facebook, etc) also stopped working. This just happened again with no recent mods to the phone, and the only add-on I have is C00kie's Home Tabs (which I didn't have the first time).
The first time I used all the missing settings as an opportunity to upgrade my software. This time I'm on the road and I don't have time to fool with it. Happily I did figure out a way to resurrect the vanished accounts.
As you stated, if you try to recreate the settings, the system will tell you that the account exists, forcing you to create the same settings with a different name. You can probably find your original settings by doing the following:
Go to the settings tab. (Scroll left from your home)
Choose "Data Services"
Scroll down to "E-Mail"
Here you should see whatever accounts you created, even if they don't show up in your email tab proper. Select them and update your passwords (if they're missing, mine were). Everything should look normal.
As I said, I'm on data roam and I couldn't get my OTA download to work where I am. Hopefully when I get back I'll know for sure. Give it a try and I hope it helps you.
Dan
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thank you Dan,it worked for me...
Related
Hey guys,
I have no idea what happened but since yesterday I lost my ability to connect to wifi networks.
I have tried turning wifi on/off, turning the whole phone off and on as well. I went into the wireless controls -> wifi settings and checked/unchecked the "network notification" option, nothing...
I did the new hero firmware update via the HTC Poland site about a week ago since it took my serial number just fine (thought so since my unbranded phone came with eastern European countries listed in the locale and language settings) and everything was fast, nice and dandy until this happened.
Any ideas why? What can I do to try and fix it? Hopefully it didn't die forever (HW failure)
Helpppp! I also tried using a 3rd app program like wifi buddy and wifi analyzer (I already had them installed) but they don't see anything, no networks. Uninstalled wifi buddy since I installed that after the 2.73 update and thought it might be conflicting somehow with the build in stuff but still nothing.
Help please!
Hi,
I have the same problem since yesterday night.
Absolutely the same (Hero, new ROM installed one week ago...)
Strange. I hope, this is not a scheduled hardware failure. :-D
Regards,
-RoB-
Are you able to turn the Wifi on? I had similar problem.
Yes, I can turn the wifi on, the toggle shows it on, and in the settings seems to work, but this can't find any wifi network, and there isn't any wifi indicator icon on the status bar. Meantime i am using my netbook on my wifi network, so I have a network, and I have tried it in my office, with the same outcome.
So I am very disappointed. It was very good in the last 3-4 weeks.
Dj_Frost said:
Hey guys,
I have no idea what happened but since yesterday I lost my ability to connect to wifi networks.
I have tried turning wifi on/off, turning the whole phone off and on as well. I went into the wireless controls -> wifi settings and checked/unchecked the "network notification" option, nothing...
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Did you do hard reset? Try it
try to install drizzy/modaco firmware..
or maybe hard reset also
Same issue. Used Modaco 2 ROM. No hard reset yet.
same problem
I had the same problem. A few days after ROM upgrade (Orange) I could not detect wifi signals. I also had installed wifi buddy and something called Y5. Even after uninstalling these programs the wifi did not detect.
After a factory reset it seems to work OK for now!!
After same issue I have take it back to the shop. They flashed it again with the new ROM, wipe my data, and so on (okay, a have made some backup).
After it, my wifi was working again, but I could not use mobil internet. Same issue as with wifi before.
After this I have reboot the Hero, then it did not boot anymore.
It stucks in the HTC logo and not continue booting.
So tomorrow I will take it back to shop again, and I will try to change it to a new one. I think it is a hardware failure.
juyin0711 said:
Did you do hard reset? Try it
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Damn.... hard reset?
Is a hard reset the same as doing a factory restore using the option in the phone settings?
I guess this is just like doing a new firmware update, backup contacts and programs with mybackup but still having to re-do the home screens (all 7) and re-apply FB pics to contacts, etc.
This suxxxx
I really hope this isn't a hardware failure that is going to keep on happening. I think it is going to be related to the new firmware update if anything..
Cause before the update (performed 2 weeks ago) I was using the firmware that the phone brought and it was working perfectly on many different wifi networks all the time... this was for about a month or two...
Dj_Frost said:
Damn.... hard reset?
Is a hard reset the same as doing a factory restore using the option in the phone settings?
I guess this is just like doing a new firmware update, backup contacts and programs with mybackup but still having to re-do the home screens (all 7) and re-apply FB pics to contacts, etc.
This suxxxx
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Why not sync your contacts with google?
soulehmoo said:
Why not sync your contacts with google?
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Because I have 1527 contacts in google contacts (basically everyone I've ever emailed for some reason... guess google auto adds them) and I don't want those to pass over to the phone... so I disabled the auto sync on contacts at the initial setup and just left it for gmail and calendar.
I had the same prob with my HTC Pro and winMO + MSN... it imported all my hundreds of msn contact to my phone contact list and it sucked!
Unless there is a specific subgroup in google contacts or way to make it so it only syncs/reads the ones I want it to?
K for your contacts, go to people app groups tab create a group called phone. Add your contacts to this group then go back to the group tab press menu then 'sync groups' make sure only phone is checked. Enable contact sync and your away.
soulehmoo said:
K for your contacts, go to people app groups tab create a group called phone. Add your contacts to this group then go back to the group tab press menu then 'sync groups' make sure only phone is checked. Enable contact sync and your away.
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Ok I went into the "All contacts" menu and then into the "Groups" tabs by using the bottom sliding menu. I then clicked on "add group" and created the group called HTC Hero. I went into the group , clicked menu button on the phone then clicked on the "Edit" option that popped up and it gave me the option to "add contact to group" so I added 62 contacts.
Now I'm stuck there... I've checked in the "all contacts" menu, the "Groups" tab, the "HTC Hero" group I created and hit the menu button on all of them but I get nothing that says "sync groups" or gives me the option to select which groups to sync.
The only thing I can ever find is by just going into the sync settings and having the gmail, calender and contacts "autc sync" checkmark.
Help
It is easier than that.
Go into People, and then Groups. Press "Menu" and the "Sync Groups". I've never set up any groups, so I'm presented with two "default" groups:
1. Sync all contacts
2. My contacts
Ensure that only "My Contacts" is ticked and you should be good to go, as "My Contacts" only includes people you've explicitly set up as a contact, as opposed to everyone you've emailed or received email from.
Regards,
Dave
EDIT: I just noticed that you said you don't ever see the "Sync Groups" options. Possibly this is because you did not select the option to sync contacts when you initially set up the phone. Assuming you've a custom recovery image, I'd be inclined to make a nandroid backup and try wiping the phone and setting it up from scratch again - at least the initial stages to see if you can get "Sync Groups" to appear. If it doesn't do anything, you can restore your backup.
foxmeister said:
EDIT: I just noticed that you said you don't ever see the "Sync Groups" options. Possibly this is because you did not select the option to sync contacts when you initially set up the phone. Assuming you've a custom recovery image, I'd be inclined to make a nandroid backup and try wiping the phone and setting it up from scratch again - at least the initial stages to see if you can get "Sync Groups" to appear. If it doesn't do anything, you can restore your backup.
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Yup... maybe that's it.
Ok so to do a nandroid backup, do I need to root it? Cause I haven't done that.
Dj_Frost said:
Hey guys,
I have no idea what happened but since yesterday I lost my ability to connect to wifi networks.
I have tried turning wifi on/off, turning the whole phone off and on as well. I went into the wireless controls -> wifi settings and checked/unchecked the "network notification" option, nothing...
I did the new hero firmware update via the HTC Poland site about a week ago since it took my serial number just fine (thought so since my unbranded phone came with eastern European countries listed in the locale and language settings) and everything was fast, nice and dandy until this happened.
Any ideas why? What can I do to try and fix it? Hopefully it didn't die forever (HW failure)
Helpppp! I also tried using a 3rd app program like wifi buddy and wifi analyzer (I already had them installed) but they don't see anything, no networks. Uninstalled wifi buddy since I installed that after the 2.73 update and thought it might be conflicting somehow with the build in stuff but still nothing.
Help please!
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I had a similar problem after upgrading to the latest MoDoCo release. I tried everything bar hard reset. Lastly I removed the wifi networks that were listed in Wifi Settings and it fixed the issue. I later found out that whenever a BTOpenzone hotspot was remembered in my list of networks wifi would stop working, if I remove that hotspot wifi starts working again. No idea why.
Hope this can be of some help.
Dan
caliginous said:
I had a similar problem after upgrading to the latest MoDoCo release. I tried everything bar hard reset. Lastly I removed the wifi networks that were listed in Wifi Settings and it fixed the issue. I later found out that whenever a BTOpenzone hotspot was remembered in my list of networks wifi would stop working, if I remove that hotspot wifi starts working again. No idea why.
Hope this can be of some help.
Dan
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Holy hell... you got it!
So it looks like this is a bug of some sorts. I remember that the last wifi network I remembered was one off an APPLE airport or whatever device they use to share wireless connections... so that must have been it. If not maybe it was one in Bennigans (yes, it still exists down here in Panama).
caliginous said:
I had a similar problem after upgrading to the latest MoDoCo release. I tried everything bar hard reset. Lastly I removed the wifi networks that were listed in Wifi Settings and it fixed the issue. I later found out that whenever a BTOpenzone hotspot was remembered in my list of networks wifi would stop working, if I remove that hotspot wifi starts working again. No idea why.
Hope this can be of some help.
Dan
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Yeah, It works for me! Just delete remembered wifi connections and it will turn on! Thanks a lot, mate
Hello,
When I use the facebook app come with HD2, I found that the app cannot remember my email and password even though I checked "Save Login" already. I need to enter them everytime when I run the apps.
Anyone faced similar problem? Any solution?
Thanks.
Edward
Close the app by hitting the X in the top right corner and never select log out/sign out.
lorin.bute said:
Close the app by hitting the X in the top right corner and never select log out/sign out.
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Thanks a lot for your reply. However, actually I used X to close the program (although I use task manager to close the application instead of minimising it) instead of log out. I also noted that in the registry there is a key called "login" under facebook. However, everytime when I run the app, the program still asks me to enter username and password.
I am getting this problem also.
It all started after the phone cocked up opening an email from the sense viewer - I had to soft reset and after that the HD2 had lost all passwords, email acounts and Wi-Fi keys etc. Every thing is fine now I have re-entered the details apart from the facebook app?
I have tried re-installing facebook but that doesn't help.
I know most people recommend using the web version, but I quite like the app and this is a real pain in the ass to input password each time I use it
Any ideas anyone?
Thanks
Same problem over here. It happened to me yesterday while installing and de-installing some custom manilla cab's ( sorry, I can't recall which). I had to reinsert all my passwords but the facebook app is the only one keeping asking for the login info.
I appreciate if somebody come with any ideas. Really I don't want to hard reset my device.
Thanks
It doesn't happen to me at all. It didn't on my previous 3 wm phones. I don't know why you get this behavior.
Me too
I allso have this problem. My phone suddenly lost "all" settings, and now Facebook won't remember my credentials.
Me too!
Wont remember my login details?!
My phone has lost all settings today twice (wi-fi key, email settings etc), and still won't remember fb at all!
Would a hard reset be the best bet for resolving this?
No idea mate, but I hope not! Dont want to loose everything!
The same problem here. Any solutions ??
Same problem here, always requires username/pass everytime. Very frustrating
Unfortunatelly it is same here too
extremely annoying!
The solution for this has already been found. Install Omarket and search for the facebook app.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showpost.php?p=6524948&postcount=47
Has anyone else experienced problems with the integration of facebook app with the contacts, specifally when it comes to showing the friends profile photo? Just did a hard reset yesterday, and before that I was able to see my friends profiles pictures when i linked them in the contacts, next to their name and when they called me. Now all I see is th default gray siloutte. Even if i open up the facebook app, and goto the friends tab, all i see is the default silouette icon...
Help please, this was one of my favorite features, now my people tab is full of the same icons
This may be obvious, but since you have reset your HD2, have you remember to "link" contacts via the contacts menu?
Ibb1982 said:
This may be obvious, but since you have reset your HD2, have you remember to "link" contacts via the contacts menu?
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yeah, the little "F" is there on the bottom left...
dont know if it matter or not, am in the UAE, website bans galore, facebook has been reallu s... l o w here lately, starting to think it has something to do with that, anyone in the UAE can confirm?
If you can still access FB then it should work. If you can't then it could be a reason.
I hate to do this, but I might just perform another hard reset, will install nothing this time until i get the facebook pics to work, i disabled HTC messaging via some thread i found here, dont know if that has something to do with it or now
jaoropez said:
Has anyone else experienced problems with the integration of facebook app with the contacts, specifally when it comes to showing the friends profile photo? Just did a hard reset yesterday, and before that I was able to see my friends profiles pictures when i linked them in the contacts, next to their name and when they called me. Now all I see is th default gray siloutte. Even if i open up the facebook app, and goto the friends tab, all i see is the default silouette icon...
Help please, this was one of my favorite features, now my people tab is full of the same icons
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Have a look at this thread. Hope that will solve your problem.
myth1001 said:
Have a look at this thread. Hope that will solve your problem.
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alas , no results, it was already set to zero (as per the link), guess i have no choice but to hard reset to see if this changes...
should i take this opportunity to upgrade to 1.48?
Hard Reset completed, still no luck! have not installed ANY applications, went through the start up wizard, when prompted for wifi, i skipped, then went to social section, and attempted to enter facebook email and pass, log in error, went back, enabled wifi, connected to wifi, then used the exact same user/pass and was successful.
Still do not have my profile picture in my contact card, just the default silouette with the small F...
this only makes me think that it has sometihgn to do with my isp, etisalat
jaoropez said:
Hard Reset completed, still no luck! have not installed ANY applications, went through the start up wizard, when prompted for wifi, i skipped, then went to social section, and attempted to enter facebook email and pass, log in error, went back, enabled wifi, connected to wifi, then used the exact same user/pass and was successful.
Still do not have my profile picture in my contact card, just the default silouette with the small F...
this only makes me think that it has sometihgn to do with my isp, etisalat
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Maybe it's due to Facebook privacy settings? Try checking your facebook settings.
Btw, you need to log in to facebook located at Settings >Data Services> Facebook.
And.. you might want to consider to upgrade to at least Rom 1.48 ( though v1.61 is much better ) since 1.48 has been officially released by HTC.
Mine does not update either, I have to do it manually as autoupdate does nothing!
Ok guys >>>> at last i found the solution
all you have to do is opining you FB from laptop and change the way you login to "unsecure" (http not https) >>>> And its done
now reupdate ur contacts and FB thumbnails appear beside each name
PS: if u want to change it again to the secure mode plz turn off ur Auto FB contacts update
thanks
***UPDATE***
Figured it out, but still would like to know why it happened. From the Sense Mail screen I was able to got to accounts and see the Yahoo to edit it, which after filling in the boxes for the server names, it showed back up in Winmo. Both the incoming and outgoing mail servers were deleted. But the server names that I typed in didn't actually work. I used some info I found on the web for that, maybe they were wrong? So then I deleted and readded it letting it pull the settings for yahoo that it found. Now it's fine.
Also noticed after the original soft reset that it lost my wifi password, just thought of that. My exchange email has never been affected by whatever this is. What would delete the server settings for my yahoo account and delete the stored password for my wifi connection?
This is a weird issue that I haven't seen discussed on here. It's happened to me twice now. The last time it happened I ended up doing a hard reset.
I have two email accounts on my phone. My Outlook Exchange account and my Yahoo Mail account.
My Yahoo Mail disappears in Winmo on the Messaging\ Email accounts screen. Doesn't even show it listed. BUT it shows up in the preview panes in Sense Mail, but only shows old emails. I can't send receive on the account at all from that Sense Mail screen or anything. I can just flip through what was already there before whatever happened, happened.
If I try to add a new account via Email accounts screen, it tells me that account is already on the phone. So it knows the account is on my phone, just won't let me access it.
Wondering if anyone else has had this problem. I don't mind hard resetting again, but I would love to know why it is happening.
Ive had the same issue happen to me twice so far also. Looks liek the new mail app maybe the culprit as I have had this happen on the diamond before with the new build.
This happened to me again today and here is exactly what it happening, yet I don't understand why.
First thing I noticed today was that I had no data connection. So I checked wireless control panel and sure enough it was disabled... So I tried to enable it. No love. gave me an error and took me to the network setup screen.
Then I looked and my Yahoo account was missing again from the windows email screen, yet still showing up in sense.
Back to the data situation: I had to edit the Tmobile connection settings and click ok through all of the screens. Once I did that, my Data connection was back.
Back to yahoo: I had to edit it through sense and it had lost both incoming and outgoing mail servers and my password. Tried to manually enter Yahoo's mail servers and it still doesn't work. Once I delete it and add it back, (letting it find the server info on it's own), it will work fine again... But for how long?
It's driving me a little batty...
Same issue has happened to me. Happens when I run out of battery or let the phone drain. Also when I reset phone while an app is running. Let me know if you guys find a fix for this.
it happens on stock and on custom roms. havent seen a fix yet
Happened to me again today. It's not specific to the shipping ROM because I have the new 2.13 ROM on my phone and this is the first time it has happened since I upgraded to the new ROM...
Gotta be something simple.
Even I've had the same problem twice..and in addition to losing the email accounts, all my apps which required login like facebook, fring, etc stopped remembering usernames and passwords. Even if I selected save password, it kept asking me everytime is started the app.
The first time it happened i did not notice why, but the second time it happed immediately after a soft reset done using BSB Tweaks after making some changes in it.
I have removed BSB Tweaks for the time being, so will wait and see if it happens again.
this happened both the times after upgrading to the 2.13 official ROM.
I don't have BSB Tweaks installed and it has happened to me multiple times. I usually lose most of my saved passwords as well in the other programs...
Lost E-Mail in 2.13 T-Mobile ROM
After upgrading to the new T-Mobile 2.13 ROM, I've had two instances where the email server settings have been lost. Same as described by others. Old emails show in Sense, but when I hit the soft button for my Inbox, I'm taken to the email setup screen.
If I cancel out and go to the setup screen through Sense, I find that everything is present except the inbound and outbound servers. Once I restore these everything is back to normal until the next time it happens.
It also happen to me. I believe this is because of the 2.13 update by T-MO.
Glad this thread exists. I ran in to this issue today too.
Hello guys
I've been trying few builds of android and install apps from the market.
When switching to a new build, I link my phone with a googlemail account so all the contacts are restored.
Unfortunately also ALL the apps are sync, downloded and installed aswell from the market, without asking me anything. I do not want this to happen.
This happen everytime, no matter whichever build I was using.
Searched first in google, then in xda but didn't find anything. Does it happen only to me? xD
has anyone got a solution?
thx
I don't know how to get rid of this problem, but it's normal, so you're not the only one. The apps you have downloaded in the market are safed in your google account, because some people have purchased apps and don't want to buy them again..
ok
fair enough then.. cheers
Hmm.. Maybe there is a solution. I never tried, but it may work.
After setting up your phone (the first thing you have to do when you boot a new build) go at first to settings > Accounts & synchronization. Sorry dunno how it's spelled in Englisch, using my phone in German There go to your Google Account and remove the ticks at contacts, mail and calendar. Then go to your market and accept the license agreement.
It could be that the market now doesn't install your apps because you don't sync your google account anymore. But if you're using this account for mail and so on this is no option, will see if I find another possibility.
Edit: Found another solution that worked for other users. In a German forum they told you have to skip the setup at the beginning, go directly to settings > SD-Card & Telephone Memory (something like that) and do a factory reset. Then boot again and the market won't install anything. If this doesn't work try to set up your phone at the beginning and do a factory reset then.
That's all I've found. Now I'm out. Tell me if it worked
Cheers
JanssoN said:
Hmm.. Maybe there is a solution. I never tried, but it may work.
After setting up your phone (the first thing you have to do when you boot a new build) go at first to settings > Accounts & synchronization. Sorry dunno how it's spelled in Englisch, using my phone in German There go to your Google Account and remove the ticks at contacts, mail and calendar. Then go to your market and accept the license agreement.
It could be that the market now doesn't install your apps because you don't sync your google account anymore. But if you're using this account for mail and so on this is no option, will see if I find another possibility.
Edit: Found another solution that worked for other users. In a German forum they told you have to skip the setup at the beginning, go directly to settings > SD-Card & Telephone Memory (something like that) and do a factory reset. Then boot again and the market won't install anything. If this doesn't work try to set up your phone at the beginning and do a factory reset then.
That's all I've found. Now I'm out. Tell me if it worked
Cheers
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I realised that it only installs the programs that you had installed in the last build.
Therefore all the apps I removed won't sync..
I probably had a bug in my last build that blocked google to complete sync.. damn xD
However my internet is not that fast as I live in the middle of farms & field, so I'm gonna download all the .apk from internet; then I will put them in the folder Android Apps and the new build just install them on the first boot.
But thanks for your research, I may use it later on.. you never know.
Cheers
merry xmas
turn off Google backup, in settings as well as when FIRST setting up Android after hitting the Android on the first screen. One of the few first things is Google Backup, for apps and bookmarks. Disable this.