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I'd be interested to see how many of us upgraded rom on new Pure.
Which rom you used, performance improvements, battery life, problems etc.
Did you back up stock rom?
Andy
I'll usually run the stock rom for a few weeks then start playing. I'll be watching this thread!
What I have noticed is that on a lot of the popular roms, you'll see things like "landscape/rotate will not work", or you will see nary an ATT person in there, but lots of euro TD2 owners, etc.
I have the WWE AT&T Pure and had it stock for about 4 days and decided to flash to !Amen!'s R5 Ultimate ROM which had the new TouchFlo 3d 2.5 Leo interface. As much as I liked the new interface it was sluggish and I had a few bugs that kept me from liking it a lot. I then looked into "TESS's 3.6 WinMo 6.5 TouchFlo 2.1" ROM and switched to it and haven't looked back. It's coupled with the new radio and all it's signal goodness. I have had no issues with this rom and have thoroughly tested everything from data, tethering, bluetooth file transfer and stereo profiling, wi-fi strength and connection, gps, overall interface response time, multitasking, and video playback to the kicker -the battery life (which I am reporting is excellent, a full day of heavy use and it's at a little over half battery). All worked and I am proud to bring you the good news that if you are looking for a solid ROM to flash to then head to TESS's release thread for info. on his ROM and it's glory.
flashed my pure to energy ROM within 30 minutes of getting it, so while i cant comment on battery life, speed and stability is much better.
did the new rom affect your ability to use 3g?
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did the new rom affect your ability to use 3g?
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ROMs do not affect the radio so AT&T 3G will still work. Flashing a Radio would probably not change it either since the bands are in the chip and changeable by software. But don't take that last part for fact.
I have a Pure...running the latest stock htc Euro WWE 6.1 ROM until the official htc 6.5 ROM is out. Good Lord, when will it be here? I tried the official 6.5 ROM on my Touch Pro 2 and WOW!
FWIW, I noticed that I know have an H instead of 3G in the signal indicator. The AT&T ROM is so full of crap I just couldn't stand it. I am not big on cooked ROMs because there always seems to be something that bothers me...
Had my Pure for over a week now, played with stock ROM for only about half a day before replacing it with a cooked one. Tried multiple ones during my past week and here's my findings:
- Dutty's R4 (and R5) [WM6.5/Manila2.5]: The first one flashed to replace AT&T stock ROM, I really liked it for almost all the aspects. However, push mail sometimes does not push (which happened to Dutty's ROMs on my Diamond as well before) so I have to give it up.
- EnergyROM Leo [WM6.5/Manila2.5]: Pretty fast and stable, but the interface is not my cup of tea, and battery drains pretty fast on mine, so this one didn't stay too long.
- Tom Topaz Leo R2 [WM6.5/Manila2.5]: Very nice ROM, stable and fast, close to stock ROM in terms of interface (not too many customizations). Quite similar to Duttys but without the push mail issue. Battery life seems to be fair. This is the one I'm staying with.
- TESS 3.6 [WM6.5/Manila2.1]: A lot of people says it's good but didn't appeal to me. Forgot what was the exact issues but there were a few, so it didn't stay too long on my Pure.
- Nataly 3.0 [WM6.1/Manila2.1]: A very nice ROM, super fast and clean, just that it's a 6.1, I do prefer 6.5, so I switched back to Tom's ROM. But after a days use of this ROM, I liked its simplicity and performance. I'll probably try it again once the 6.5 version is released. Battery life is said to be super on this one but I didn't have enough time to test out. From my one day's experience it seems to be pretty good.
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Had my Pure for over a week now, played with stock ROM for only about half a day before replacing it with a cooked one. Tried multiple ones during my past week and here's my findings:
- Dutty's R4 (and R5) [WM6.5/Manila2.5]: The first one flashed to replace AT&T stock ROM, I really liked it for almost all the aspects. However, push mail sometimes does not push (which happened to Dutty's ROMs on my Diamond as well before) so I have to give it up.
- EnergyROM Leo [WM6.5/Manila2.5]: Pretty fast and stable, but the interface is not my cup of tea, and battery drains pretty fast on mine, so this one didn't stay too long.
- Tom Topaz Leo R2 [WM6.5/Manila2.5]: Very nice ROM, stable and fast, close to stock ROM in terms of interface (not too many customizations). Quite similar to Duttys but without the push mail issue. Battery life seems to be fair. This is the one I'm staying with.
- TESS 3.6 [WM6.5/Manila2.1]: A lot of people says it's good but didn't appeal to me. Forgot what was the exact issues but there were a few, so it didn't stay too long on my Pure.
- Nataly 3.0 [WM6.1/Manila2.1]: A very nice ROM, super fast and clean, just that it's a 6.1, I do prefer 6.5, so I switched back to Tom's ROM. But after a days use of this ROM, I liked its simplicity and performance. I'll probably try it again once the 6.5 version is released. Battery life is said to be super on this one but I didn't have enough time to test out. From my one day's experience it seems to be pretty good.
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Which HardSPL did you use to flash the ROMS?
on this one Topaz-HardSPL_V5_00R5_183HSPL my AV shows a virus and deletes it
I used the stock ROM for about a day, but like most everyone else, I don't like all the extra junk that AT&T puts in there, so I flashed right away. I first used the EnergyROM Leo, liked it well and may go back to it. However, after reading the benchmark spreadsheet, I decided to give Dutty's R5 a try, and have been happy with it. I like the eye candy look of the EnergyROM better, and generally, I can't tell much difference in speed between the two, though Dutty's benchmarks much faster.
Strangely, I found that the stock AT&T ROM was the most error-prone. I got a lot of Windows error messages (shell32.exe, I think) with it. I've managed to lock up both EnergyROM and Dutty's here and there.
I can't say much about battery time at all.
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Which HardSPL did you use to flash the ROMS?
on this one Topaz-HardSPL_V5_00R5_183HSPL my AV shows a virus and deletes it
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There are no viruses at all. Just turn off you AV and DL it. Do you have Norton? For some reason Norton sees it as a virus a lot. AVG did not for me. But there is no virus. Or I'm sure there would be hundreds of angry TD2 owners and you woulda heard about it.
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There are no viruses at all. Just turn off you AV and DL it. Do you have Norton? For some reason Norton sees it as a virus a lot. AVG did not for me. But there is no virus. Or I'm sure there would be hundreds of angry TD2 owners and you woulda heard about it.
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Thanks for replying, and you are right I've Norton.......I'm going to try later... Cheers
Tried just about every rom available: energyrom, Showdowline's, Dutty's, and TESS rom. Out of all of them the TESS rom drains my battery the least and is still the most quick in response and rarely locks up or lags. The others have manila 2.5 and I just don't think the pure can handle it unless htc or att comes out with their own version for the pure/td2.
Ahh I can't wait until I get my Pure and start crankin out builds.
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Flashing a Radio would probably not change it either since the bands are in the chip and changeable by software. But don't take that last part for fact.
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What do you mean "bands changeable by software"? If I'll install radio from Europe, will HTC Pure start support European 3G?
AT&T Pure results
I've had pretty good success with several of the most popular ROMs on the AT&T Pure, including TESS, Dutty, X-Treme2.V5, and some of the less popular ROMs too.
What I've found, though, is that in many of these ROMs there is a dialer glitch and a close-button glitch that probably is unique to the Pure.
The dialer glitch: When a voice call comes in, it seems that a third of the time, you cannot use the slider to actually answer the call. And when the call does answer, there is major lag between sliding and answering. I have no idea what causes this, but I've been looking for a ROM that doesn't have this glitch and haven't found one yet.
The close window glitch: This might or might not be unique to the Pure, but in a lot of ROMs, the close-window X in the upper right corner has a graphical glitch. When pressed, the highlight graphic actually appears to the left of the button, rather than beneath it. This is not a functional issue; it's an aesthetic one. But it crops up a lot in the ROMs that I've tested.
I also installed a reduced AT&T Pure ROM listed in another thread, but that was a work in progress and had broken aliases scattered around. I actually like the blue AT&T Pure interface, and I'm hoping that somebody will take that stock ROM and do a nice speed customization with it to cut out the bloatware and make it more responsive.
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When a voice call comes in, it seems that a third of the time, you cannot use the slider to actually answer the call. And when the call does answer, there is major lag between sliding and answering. I have no idea what causes this, but I've been looking for a ROM that doesn't have this glitch and haven't found one yet.
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If it's anything like the prior gen diamond for ATT, you will want to find a rom WITHOUT a slide to answer add on.
They were 100% not compatible with the phone, and did exactly what you described.... well if it even connected the call after waiting a while.
Most of those rom cookers are aware of the problem with the prior gen, maybe if you are having a problem, mention it AND mention you are on ATT. Looks like history is repeating itself.
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If it's anything like the prior gen diamond for ATT, you will want to find a rom WITHOUT a slide to answer add on.
They were 100% not compatible with the phone, and did exactly what you described.... well if it even connected the call after waiting a while.
Most of those rom cookers are aware of the problem with the prior gen, maybe if you are having a problem, mention it AND mention you are on ATT. Looks like history is repeating itself.
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Intersting. But isn't the slider the default for all dialers in Manila/Sense? This means I would have to go to Titanium to avoid this bug I guess -- unless there's some dialer mod that can patch a Manila/Sense slider. All the Manila/Sense ROMs I've tried have had this slide dialer.
Oh, and by the way, it's not just the slide itself that seems to be causing the problem. Actually pressing the physical send/talk button has the same effect when answering a call. That is, about a third of the time, it won't actually answer a call at all, or does connect but only after lagging for four or five seconds. Really annoying stuff.
Ths send/talk button issue might be related to the dialer glitch you're talking about, but I haven't done any testing with a dialer that doesn't use the slide-to-answer. Haven't seen a ROM that doesn't have the slider in the dialer.
Yup in my prior gen case, it was also the physical buttons. Sounds exactly the same!
The ONLY one that would work was a stock ATT diamond rom that someone took the bloatware out of, and left the stock answer buttons.
Is the slider modified in any way in each of these roms?
Do they use another slider in place of the manila slider?
Usually they give a list of the oem rom and the added or modified applications.
Sometimes, and actually a lot of times, they base their work on a euro rom version and call it WWE, that may not have the right drivers or whatnot for the ATT specific hardware.
It really does sound like the same issue all over again. But I'd ask in each of the rom threads and hopefully you'll get a quick answer!
Just finished some testing on Dutty's new Holy Grail ROM, and the results are good. Called my phone 20 times, and answered with the slider 10 times and send/talk physical button 10 times. All slides/presses connected the call immediately with no lag whatsoever. So unless my sampling is too low to be conclusive (perhaps the glitch will kick in less than 10 percent of the time) I think this is the ROM I will use for now.
Unfortunately, the graphics glitch with the close button (the highlight occurs to the left of the X rather than beneath it) is in this build. Plus, the built-in version of Bing doesn't work/launch. But these are small sacrifices to pay for a great all-around ROM that actually answers calls when you press the button or move the slider. Woot!
Ok, so it came first thing this morning. I've spent the last few days reading up on the forum, and was wanting to flash a new rom (for the customised screens etc)
Now, I know I'm a NOOB in the biggest sense of the word when it comes to WM but some of the abbreviations in the guides are confusing me, can someone please explain them to me, or excatley what i need to be doing (just until i work my way round a bit!)
I know that there's a noobs guide, and i have read it honest, but i don't wanna be bricking it!
Pwweeease?
Make sure you have windows mobile device center installed on your pc. Connect the hd2 via usb to your computer (with the cable included with your hd2) and wait until windows mobile device center says it is connected.
To put an official rom on your hd2, download the rom and run the .exe included in the package. Follow the steps onscreen and you're done.
To put a custom rom on your hd2, you need to flash hardspl first. Steps are explained in detail here . Basically it involves connecting your hd2 to the pc, running the hardspl .exe file on your pc, and following the onscreen steps. Then that is done, and you will have to run the .exe file included in the custom rom package, and follow the onscreen steps again. To be safe you won't have any bugs, do a hard reset of your hd2 just after flashing the custom rom. Look here how to do that, it is explained at nr. 15. Pretty easy
good luck
if you make sure your hd2 battery doesn't run out (higher than 50% is usually said), and you make sure your pc doesn't shut down or do anything weird while updating, and you don't disconnect the cable while you are flashing, chances are practically 0 you will brick it.
What abbreviations are confusing you?
Cheers for the quick reply mate, i don't wanna come across as a complete knob (although i probably am already!)
TBH, it was things like hardspl and the other one, sspl or something?
If i put a customised ROM on it, is there any way of going back or is that it then?
Also, is windows 6.5.3 worth it? It's new out of the box, so have no idea whats what yet.
What, if any roms would people suggest? Also, do push notifications for twitter and facebook work? I've found already that the stock FB app that comes with it doesn't let you see people's comments on status's etc
All very confusing so far, but I'm still not reaching for the iphone back.....Yet!
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Cheers for the quick reply mate, i don't wanna come across as a complete knob (although i probably am already!)
TBH, it was things like hardspl and the other one, sspl or something?
If i put a customised ROM on it, is there any way of going back or is that it then?
Also, is windows 6.5.3 worth it? It's new out of the box, so have no idea whats what yet.
What, if any roms would people suggest? Also, do push notifications for twitter and facebook work? I've found already that the stock FB app that comes with it doesn't let you see people's comments on status's etc
All very confusing so far, but I'm still not reaching for the iphone back.....Yet!
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best to check what you have got on the device before you start upgrading..lol
when my phone arrived most of the updates from htc were on it already..
Forget about sspl (softspl), you don't need it. Hardspl is "better" (to keep things simple)
Flashing a new rom will delete all your settings, installed programs, etc etc. So backup what you need before flashing (you can use microsoft MyPhone -which is preinstalled on hd2's- to backup certain things).
About going back, yea you can 'go back', in case you can download the rom that is currently on your hd2. It is probably official hd2 rom version 1.48, but of course i'm not sure. But i don't think you would want to go back, there is no reason to. Unless you hate new roms, but you can always find one that is undebatably better and more up to date than the rom you are using now.
Yea windows mobile 6.5.3 is nice and in some ways a little better than 6.5, but it doesn't work 100% correctly with HTC sense. There are some graphical glitches with this on 6.5.3 roms.
I prefer Dutty's 0.3a rom (here) because it is basically the same as your stock rom, but with up to date software, up to date windows mobile 6.5, updated htc sense - and everything works flawlessly for me.
Haven't tried push notifications for facebook or twitter, so can't comment on that. 6.5.3 roms have some graphical glitches with HTC sense. Many other 6.5 roms have other customizations that I don't like.
Forget about the iPhone, the hd2 baby is miles and miles better (yes i've used the iPhone).
if you need more recommendations, shoot
Cheers for that mate. I'm gonna put sprog to bed and give it a go!
You are correct in the fact that it is a stock 1.48 rom shipped on the phone, please excuse my ignorance, this is my first wm phone! I'm an expert on the iphone now though lol!
I did read about flashing with bepe's thing, is that still needed?
Hopefully i'll find some decent FB and twitter apps that does push (I'm addicted lol!)
Umm, then to sort out google activsync again!
"bepe's thing" is hardspl, which is needed only once (ever) to unlock your phone to enable flashing custom roms. So yes, you need to do it when you want to flash a custom rom.
I don't want to be a damp rag or anything but I'd personally use the phone for a week or two before installing any custom ROMs. When I received my phone it was perfect, lasted 2 days easy on one charge (with everything set to auto update) and had no camera issues. I then installed the unofficial 1.48 and now the battery struggles to get 2 days even with most auto updates turned off and the camera developed the over exposure issue. Now I regret updating it and am slightly hesitant to do it again.
Also, most custom ROMs at the moment do not have very major upgrades to them and are usually just very slightly tweaked. I'm waiting for something more worthwhile to be released (like WM6.5.3 with a fully functional Sense) before I go and HSPL my phone. Take a look at this user for an example of what might happen.
But then again I may be acting over cautious and might not be enjoying the full power and epic-ness out of my HD2.
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I don't want to be a damp rag or anything but I'd personally use the phone for a week or two before installing any custom ROMs. When I received my phone it was perfect, lasted 2 days easy on one charge (with everything set to auto update) and had no camera issues. I then installed the unofficial 1.48 and now the battery struggles to get 2 days even with most auto updates turned off and the camera developed the over exposure issue. Now I regret updating it and am slightly hesitant to do it again.
Also, most custom ROMs at the moment do not have very major upgrades to them and are usually just very slightly tweaked. I'm waiting for something more worthwhile to be released (like WM6.5.3 with a fully functional Sense) before I go and HSPL my phone. Take a look at this user for an example of what might happen.
But then again I may be acting over cautious and might not be enjoying the full power and epic-ness out of my HD2.
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What is unofficial 1.48? There is an official 1.48, and most unofficial custom roms are based on a higher rom version than 1.48. I think you're being a little over cautious, I have flashed practically millions of roms on HTC devices and never experienced a problem. The problems you are having with battery and camera are probably related to your custom rom choice and/or your settings.
But you're right that there isn't a world of difference between the stock rom and newest custom roms, the hd2 is a relatively new device. Still, I feel you can't go wrong by updating the rom to a good custom one, and it will be better than the stock rom. Dutty's holy grail 0.3a is my recommendation, but to each one his own.
Slow down mate!
Northerneil,
I know you are dying to get into your device and flash roms like there's no tomorrow. I say STOP, slow down, take your time.
I would get to know how your device works the way it is first. One good thing about this is that if there any hardware problems you can return the device as an exchange without having to undo loads of changes that are NOT warranty friendly.
Next, READ, READ and READ again. Flashing roms sounds quite simple and the process has improved tremendously. The problem isn't flashing a rom; its knowing how to recover if it all goes wrong. Its getting to know the pitfalls and how to get out of them e.g your device rebooting for no reason, which is a problem some serial flashers are having right now.
Welcome on board, hope you heed my advice although I appreciate you are a big boy and can do what you want. However a bricked device can take a long time to fix, even if you know what you are doing, and if you are lvery ucky.
WB
PS: Feel free to PM me if you want to know more about certain functions and abbreviations. You need to know as much as possible before you start tinkering with your device.
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What is unofficial 1.48? There is an official 1.48, and most unofficial custom roms are based on a higher rom version than 1.48. I think you're being a little over cautious, I have flashed practically millions of roms on HTC devices and never experienced a problem. The problems you are having with battery and camera are probably related to your custom rom choice and/or your settings.
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By "unofficial" I was referring to the 1.48 405 WWE that was available for download before HTC made it official on their website.
I am still running that "unofficial" 1.48 ROM with the stock settings so I doubt that these problems have anything to do with my settings.
Hi. I've had these problems with my htc hd2, I've had the sms probs, but that got fixed after talking to you guys And now when people call me, or I call other people it freezes, im able to stop the conversation (which doesn't actually start), reset the machine (red button on the back or pull-out-battery) and then call back... This is really annoying, it has happened twice today, one time yesterday, and one time every day before.. I don't call people or receive alot of calls, but always the first call "****s up". Then its ok for the next call. Doesn't happen to anything else (yet), only calling. It's not that big of a problem, but my bills are keeping to get longer seeing that I have to call back all the time. :/
Jnygaard
I think the information you are providing is just a bit to little. you have explained your problem but you are not telling what radio and rom you are using.
in general have you tried a hard reset? or is the problem also there with your sd card in the phone? people have problems with phone freezes because of sd cards. especially the larger cards.
Oh yeah, sorry, I'm abit new to this.
Rom: 1.66.409.1 (NOR)
OS: 5.2.21869
Radio: 2.06.51.07
I always use a SD-card which is the standard 2gb which came with the phone, i could go some days without, and see if it works. Unless you have any other ideas?
Haven't tried a hard reset, doesn't that mean I'd have to upgrade it again?
I suffered from this last week & almost tested the bounciness of the phone I got so annoyed with it. As you'll see from my postcount I am an absolute noob but...I removed a couple of custom taskbars I had installed & bizzarrely everything returne to normal. probably a complete coincidence which I'm sure the experts here will confirm
Clever.. But "Custom taskbars" what did you mean by that, I'm more of a noob than you ;b
Hi, the taskbar is the info' strip display at the top of the phone. The standard one is a "clunky" black & white design. I installed some fancy, coloured ones which I now know should only be installed on HD2s with winmo6.5."whatever number it's at now" installed. Mine is a stock 1.66 ROM with winmo 6.5 device. Like I said the two may be completely unconnected but - touch wood(Ooh err missus), I've not had a call freeze since uninstalling them. I can't believe I've been outnoobed either lol! Best of luck...
Oh, yeah I've got the stock "black 'n white chunky" one :/ so there must be something else
I'll keep an eye on this thread for updates, of course I tempted sodding fate & the bloody thing locked up on me about half an hour after posting my reply. Cover off & soft reset & we're off again but this is soooooooooooo annoying when it does happen. best of luck to you.
Dunno if this is alowed, but Bump? (bring up my post )
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Oh yeah, sorry, I'm abit new to this.
Rom: 1.66.409.1 (NOR)
OS: 5.2.21869
Radio: 2.06.51.07
I always use a SD-card which is the standard 2gb which came with the phone, i could go some days without, and see if it works. Unless you have any other ideas?
Haven't tried a hard reset, doesn't that mean I'd have to upgrade it again?
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what upgrades are you talking about? if you've installed any apps or customisations then you'll have to reinstall those after a hard reset, but otherwise it will just blow away all your info and give you a clean slate to start from with whatever ROM/Radio combo you have. definitely worth doing if you haven't done that yet.
otherwise maybe try upgrading the radio? or another ROM if that doesn't work...
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Hi. I've had these problems with my htc hd2, I've had the sms probs, but that got fixed after talking to you guys And now when people call me, or I call other people it freezes, im able to stop the conversation (which doesn't actually start), reset the machine (red button on the back or pull-out-battery) and then call back... This is really annoying, it has happened twice today, one time yesterday, and one time every day before.. I don't call people or receive alot of calls, but always the first call "****s up". Then its ok for the next call. Doesn't happen to anything else (yet), only calling. It's not that big of a problem, but my bills are keeping to get longer seeing that I have to call back all the time. :/
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Try flashing to one of the latest Radios.
I had this problem when I was on a very old Radio 2.04 with the latest custom Roms.
Well, I have the latest rom, and thats the only rom I can get :S and isn't the radio upgraded with the rom ? if not, where do I upgrade the radio ? (radio: 2.06.51.07)
radios are in one of the stickies in the ROM forum
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=611787
if you want info on how to flash it then read thru the relevant stickies
Finally understood and downloaded/flashed a new radio (2.08), after hours of reading and decrypting "nerd language" (no offence of course). We'll see if it helped tomorrow, if I have no probs tomorrow it *might* have been fixed!
TMOUS user here. Have had the HD2 for a total of 5 days. Making phone calls, it freezes repeatedly. I will receive a phone call(feel it vibrate, try to answer, and it just locks. Can still hit the Home button and hit HD2SoftReset, but this really sucks.
R:2.08.50.08?2
G 15.34.50.07U
D 2.10.82076 8G
Hopefully that's the radio info you need. It is a stock TMOUS rom. Installed a handful of Apps, and loaded up some music on my microSD card. Any suggestions?
I was on the phone with T-Mobile Support (611), regarding my HD2 and the issues that I am still having with this device. The rep. stated that T-Mobile is aware of the issues on the phone and that the 1st ROM update did not resolve them all and caused some new ones.
She stated specifically this new update would resolve the issue of the device hanging after you try to wake up the phone...also, the "unreliable data connection" issue is still prevalent (I still have this problem - and I have tried everything I can think of or read about). She stated that there are other fixes that they are working on to resolve with this new update.
I could not get a solid time frame, but she stated that it should be pretty quick, given that they issued the first one within a short time frame after the HD2 release.
Now, I'm not sure if this means an upgrade from 6.5 to 6.5.3, but I wouldn't count on it. I just hope it is released soon. This device is so nice and so awful at the same time. Constantly I experience little nagging issues that make using this device such a hassle.
Have you tried just flashing it to one of these custom ROMs?
No I have not yet tried the custom ROM yet on the HD2. I like the way the T-Mobile ROM are, I just am getting fed up with the "unreliable data connection" BS. Also, the phone (since the ROM update) has been running slow and I don't think that is acceptable with the 1GHz snapdragon on this device. My only other issue is that the speaker phone stops working because T-Mobile added some stupid software to the device. If you dial 611, the software pops up and tries to solve your problem via webpage and stops the speaker phone from working till you restart the device.
While that is a short list of issues, they are major issues in using the device. But I think i will wait till this 2nd update comes out...if it does not resolve my issues, custom ROM here I come!
I belive flashing NRG will solve your issues It did mine.
Which issue did it solve? The data connection issue?
Data and freezing as well not to mention the phone just flies now. flashing a new radio fixed reception issue
well I will give it a try and see if it resolves my issues as well. I figure we have about a month or so before T-mobile releases the 2nd update. I know I will not be able to last that long with these issues. It is just a pain in the a-- to flash ROMs every day...I'm not into doing it all the time. I would like to find a good stable ROM and run with it. It just takes too much time flashing and reinstalling all those programs and changing the settings to where I like them all (too much work).
Like I said it is a shame, i really like this device on paper, but in the real world is just has some serious issues. I thought i would get a year or two out of this device when i bought it, now I am already looking to swap this puppy out. I'm looking to see what is coming down the pipeline. I refuse to go with WP7 (feels like the step backwards with it limitations as compared to WM6.5 - and i don't want a device that clones the iPhone of 4 years ago)
Anyone other suggestion on custom ROMs?
NRG 21911 is very solid and you don't have to flash everyday it has xda uc and pim backup witch will back up and reinstall all your software I did it yesterday in about 20 min. I refrain from flashing during the week. the the first time it will take about an hour just read all you can on it. 670megs free space on device 13gigs on sd and 300 megs of free RAM
I'm downloading the 23121 Cookie Dinik Glass version right now...I'll let you know how it works on my device. thanks for pointing me in this direction, appreciate it!
tmobile rep told me the same thing after I had a warranty exchange, she said to expect the update soon as there are alot of people experiencing problems with the current software. Although to be honest after running Android on my HD2 I dont think I ever want to use winmo again.
are you getting everything to work with Android? i did not think they have a fully functional Android ROM for the HD2 yet
They're all the same...
My biggest complaint is the bad data connection. Paying too much money for crappy connection. I can't even get connection in my lower level of my house. I think every carrier and cell phones all have their own problems. My two co-workers, one with Droid and the other iPhone have similar problems. Droid keeps freezing 2 warranty phone exchanges so far and iPhone looses connection frequently. iPhone guy wishes his would freeze so he could get a replacement. So it's not just me.
Help me please
So i tried to install android, and on gthe web it said i needed to install hpsl well my phone had it set to 2.10 they stated i needed 2.08 or earlier so i did it but the install still didn't work !!! How can i return my phone back to 2.10 and still get my warranty back
android fo real?
cabrone said:
tmobile rep told me the same thing after I had a warranty exchange, she said to expect the update soon as there are alot of people experiencing problems with the current software. Although to be honest after running Android on my HD2 I dont think I ever want to use winmo again.
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i read on pocetnow that android is being worked on on xda. seen a couple of post too, but there is always some component not really working. is there an official android post where all the kinks are worked out? i would like to switch if thats the case. thanks.
Wow is all I can say about that NRG ROM....it is great! does everything I have been looking for, no data connection issues since last night (I'll report back on this issue as time goes by). It's fast and very stable (so far, but hell I'm impressed), and I did not even use most stable version the 21911.
The UI is great, I love the three pages of app slot, everything is within one or two finger stokes this way. It also gets rid of the apps that I don't want (ie TelNav, etc...) but keeps most of the apps that I do want...I can always install cabs for the programs I want from the official ROM. Plus it has cooked into it all those sweet tweaks and settings. Great work, I'm not even waiting for T-mobile to release the 2nd update any longer.
Thanks gtrplr71 again for suggesting this custom ROM, it's so nice, I don’t even think I will be trying out any other ROMs.
I would not get hopes up of a 6.5.3 upgrade. Could you imagine the Technical support nightmare if they had to troubleshoot 2 different OS versions?
This is one reason I think Android and Linux will really take off in the future.
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i read on pocetnow that android is being worked on on xda. seen a couple of post too, but there is always some component not really working. is there an official android post where all the kinks are worked out? i would like to switch if thats the case. thanks.
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There's a HD2 Android section in the original HD2 area (euro hd2 section).... but it is a work in progress. There are still a lot of issues and kinks. It will be a while before it works as well as a native android phone. But the progress they've made is unbelievable. It's great having both winmo and android on my phone.
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Wow is all I can say about that NRG ROM....it is great! does everything I have been looking for, no data connection issues since last night (I'll report back on this issue as time goes by). It's fast and very stable (so far, but hell I'm impressed), and I did not even use most stable version the 21911.
The UI is great, I love the three pages of app slot, everything is within one or two finger stokes this way. It also gets rid of the apps that I don't want (ie TelNav, etc...) but keeps most of the apps that I do want...I can always install cabs for the programs I want from the official ROM. Plus it has cooked into it all those sweet tweaks and settings. Great work, I'm not even waiting for T-mobile to release the 2nd update any longer.
Thanks gtrplr71 again for suggesting this custom ROM, it's so nice, I don’t even think I will be trying out any other ROMs.
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your welcome don't forget to make a backup with pim backup to your sd card and use xda uc once you get things settled. Have fun!
how does the xda uc work? i could not figure that out, when I ran the app it stated that i did not have that file on my storage card...but it appeared there somehow.
Also, the incall record does not seem to work at all. when i lauch it (after I connect or before I connect a call) all I get is a blank lined page (note pad page).
And, is there a list of the added and removed apps somewhere? I could not find it in the ROM thread.
As for the 6.5.3 upgrade from T-Mobile, i don't think it will happen either and right now, after trying the NRG ROM...I don't care. I'm not even going to try the T-mobile 2nd ROM upgrade. Now with Android comes along on the HD2 (fully functional) then i will surely set up a dual boot situation on my HD2. That is like the best of both world.
(xda uc)-you wont notice anything different It will run and monitor the phone for new settings when you decide to flash a new build it will auto run and import settings and apps.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=653563 (stock apps) I am not familer with in-call record is that an app? this link might help
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=588644
tip = turn off second hand on clock in CHT misc settings sync errors happen if you dont
You can PM me if you need more help!
Phone freezes no matter what I try. Stumped
I have a question that seems not to be able to get answered where ever I post it. so please forgive me for posting here if this is not the correct place. I have been trying android from the beginning and I've tried everyones builds. from winmo to droid and different radios to find the right combination. The problem i keep running into is that my phone freezes up no matter what i do. I tried the letama .2 & .3. This problem even occurs in winmo even with the sd out. I may get a full day out of it with no problems then the problem returns. Right know i'm running MDJ Froyo revolution v.1.3 and winmo ozrom 5.10 wwe and radio 2.10.50.26. Also, wipe the sd clean every time i switch builds or upgrade. Haven't figured out how to do logs yet. still searching and reading to try and teach myself how to be more useful around the forums. Thanks and I appreciate all the hard work the DEVS put in. That's why i follow the rules except this time.
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That's why i follow the rules except this time.
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Obey the rules!
Naa, just kidding. But if your phone's freezing even in WinMo there's something really messed up. Did you try to make a task 29 and flash your ROM again? That might be helpful.. If not, turn your phone back to original standards (ROM, HSPL, Radio must be as given by the factory) and go to your retailor to use your guarantee if you still have.
Obey the rules!
Naa, just kidding. But if your phone's freezing even in WinMo there's something really messed up. Did you try to make a task 29 and flash your ROM again? That might be helpful.. If not, turn your phone back to original standards (ROM, HSPL, Radio must be as given by the factory) and go to your retailor to use your guarantee if you still have.
I like you sense of humor. thank you for taking the time and commenting. there has been 30+ people that have viewed this and haven't even responded. But, some can ask like where is the download link and we all now where its at. always at the beginning of the thread,but they get all kind of replies. It just makes no sense to me when someone has a legit question they can't get much help. don't really understand that. Thought we were here to help each other.I don't believe that its an issue hardware issue. i believe its more software than anything. It comes and goes. My phone was going thru a period where it would reboot all by itself with no apparent reason. Then all of a sudden it stopped it and hasn't done that for 4 to 6 weeks.
really 97 views and no insight.
you tried the stock factory rom?? It might be hardware. You will be surprised a tiny drop of water inside your phone will slowly mess up your phone through a long period of time.
Are you on tmobile? I will try to look for a stock rom for you.
BTW, what do you mean by freezing? it hiccups or you have to do a battery pull.
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really 97 views and no insight.
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btw, your title is a curious one, that is why you have many views and received little to no response. If they can't help you they won't post anything. But I will try my best to see whats going on.
if your suffering from the freezes in winmo and android then you I think that you need to forget about android for the time being and concentrate on getting a stable WM set up........
If you havent already done so then try a hard reset and see if that helps.......
try booting and running your phone with and without your sd card........
with and without your sim card........
if it still happens after the hard reset then you will need to reflash your WM rom, if you plan on using the phone mostly for android then I would opt for a basic rom like the energy reference series or one of duttys roms.....
there are many reasons why your phone might freeze and you need to spend time trying all situations to figure out what makes it freeze..........
if it still happens after the reset/reflash then we can only assume that it is a serious problem which may well require a warranty replacement.....
if your suffering from the freezes in winmo and android then you I think that you need to forget about android for the time being and concentrate on getting a stable WM set up........
I have tried all that you have suggested. The curious thing to me is that it seems to come and go. It first started with the energy rom and it's also happened with dutty's as well. if you guys know how to pull logs that devs need is possible you could give me a run down on how and then maybe i can find out if it is hardware. My phone has never been near water. i'm very careful about that. I'm using ozrom now. This is the 3rd HD2 i've had. the last one lost all touch response. I just have a feeling its software, but i just have a gut feeling on that. Thanks everyone though for your input i greatly appreciate it and keep it coming.
BTW, what do you mean by freezing? it hiccups or you have to do a battery pull.
I have to pull the battery. Then i may have to leave it out for a minute or two maybe longer then replace battery before it will load windows. it will just show the splash screen.
was this happening even when you were running the stock rom?
Have you tried to reformat your SD Card? I have two, and when I used my original card received with my HD2, TMOUSA, it would freeze. Since I reformatted and use new and old card, no problems for over a month.
was this happening even when you were running the stock rom?
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Have you tried to reformat your SD Card? I have two, and when I used my original card received with my HD2, TMOUSA, it would freeze. Since I reformatted and use new and old card, no problems for over a month.
yes. I have two the 16 that came with it and an 8. it happens with both. I reformat every time i switch builds.
I see that your using radio 2.10 and that caused my HD2 to freeze a lot. change your radio to 2.12 or 2.14
I use the same Android build as you but with the elegancia gtx wm rom with radio 2.14 and after upgrading the radio the freezing (SOD) stopped.
I started using the radio 2.15.50 and have had no problems whatsoever. Also unchecking auto rotate and auto britghtness helps. Sometimes redownloading and installing your Android helps if you got a bad download the first time.
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now runnning enery extreme from 11/5 and mdj desire hd with his newest kernel smartass and the only time it freezes in during a call. usually anywhere from 5 - 15 minutes into the call. Anyone have any insight two a possible solution?
This is what I would do:
1. Task 29
2. Flash a slim WM ROM such as the one mentioned in my signature.
3. Flash a NEW RADIO...at least 2.12 or even higher.
3a. Install NOTHING. NOTHING AT ALL. Just answer and make calls. Period.
4. Test that build for two days. If I have freezups, then my phone is bad and I would flash the stock rom and radio and return it. If it does not freezup goto 5.
5. Completely reformat my SD card to Fat32 32kb (or 64kb if you think it affects stuttering in music).
6. Since you and I are both in the US, I recommend getting an Android that has a built in TMO MMS fix such as the new MDJ build (with link to MMS fix) or the fine MooMoo build or even Bluetopia.
7. Test the basic features in Android for two days minimum and see if I get freezeups (after disabling auto-rotate and wi-fi on the Android build as well as completely shutting off all radios in WM).
8. Be glad I got this far, and slowly reinstall my apps, testing each thoroughly for freezing.
This is what I would do:
1. Task 29
2. Flash a slim WM ROM such as the one mentioned in my signature.
3. Flash a NEW RADIO...at least 2.12 or even higher.
3a. Install NOTHING. NOTHING AT ALL. Just answer and make calls. Period.
4. Test that build for two days. If I have freezups, then my phone is bad and I would flash the stock rom and radio and return it. If it does not freezup goto 5.
5. Completely reformat my SD card to Fat32 32kb (or 64kb if you think it affects stuttering in music)
Thanks for taking the time to post this i appreciate it. I have tried it all. It appears to be getting better. I have been using MDJ's kernels since he posted them with his desire hd build. I have always felt that it was software related and not hardware. It appears to me to be caused maybe by the data drops from ppp. Not sure though till i teach myself how to do that. thanks again though.
Turned out to be a hardware issue. Got my new replacement and it works flawless. Can't believe the fun I was missing. At least it was a great learning experience.
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