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hotvoice.exe for 8525?

I see the hotvoice.exe in the /Windows directory, but it doesn't seem to run for me... nor does it show up as a valid Button assignment. It worked fine on my 8125... did Cingular not include this in the ROM?
hotvoice.exe was linked as the Record button on the 8125. I can launch Notes and voice record from there, I just wanted a more direct way to get there.
Is there a way for me to copy it from my 8125?
Thanks,
Mike

zim2dive said:
I see the hotvoice.exe in the /Windows directory, but it doesn't seem to run for me... nor does it show up as a valid Button assignment. It worked fine on my 8125... did Cingular not include this in the ROM?
hotvoice.exe was linked as the Record button on the 8125. I can launch Notes and voice record from there, I just wanted a more direct way to get there.
Is there a way for me to copy it from my 8125?
Thanks,
Mike
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What ROM are you on? If you do not use PTT, using the leaked Cingular 2.06 ROM then you can do the following. Remap one of your buttons to the app. You must create a shortcut to it first so that it shows up in the app list when you try to remap buttons. If you do not want to change your normal buttons try Sleuth's PPTFix to use the PTT button to launch the app.

I'm still working thru the info here as a newbie to the ROMS...
My Device info says ROM 1.34.502.1, however I'm not sure that corresponds to the general #'s I see flying around (I have read the Wiki, and while there's a lot of good info, its also written with a lot of assumption that you already know a lot of the lingo)....
Anyway, I have tried linking to the app from the Programs folder..and that link does show up in the Buttons list... but I can't get the app to launch, period
Mike

zim2dive said:
I'm still working thru the info here as a newbie to the ROMS...
My Device info says ROM 1.34.502.1, however I'm not sure that corresponds to the general #'s I see flying around (I have read the Wiki, and while there's a lot of good info, its also written with a lot of assumption that you already know a lot of the lingo)....
Anyway, I have tried linking to the app from the Programs folder..and that link does show up in the Buttons list... but I can't get the app to launch, period
Mike
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OK, you've got the stock ROM, look for and install Sleuth's PTTFix, create a shotcut to Hotvoice.exe on your 8525, and map the PTT button to the hotvoice app. It will only show after creating the shortcut in \Windows.

I've installed the PTTfix and the PTT button works fine. While this gives me extra buttons, this shouldn't be needed, should it? (ie. any reason why I can't assign Record to buttons 1-4?)
But hotvoice.exe will not launch.. I cannot launch it from the file explorer either.
Given that Record does not show up in the default list of buttons (as it does on the 8125), it seems like it doesn't work, at least not in the default ROM??
Mike

zim2dive said:
I've installed the PTTfix and the PTT button works fine. While this gives me extra buttons, this shouldn't be needed, should it? (ie. any reason why I can't assign Record to buttons 1-4?)
But hotvoice.exe will not launch.. I cannot launch it from the file explorer either.
Given that Record does not show up in the default list of buttons (as it does on the 8125), it seems like it doesn't work, at least not in the default ROM??
Mike
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Yes, you can change them to whatever you wish, I was just providing another suggestion. I prefer to leave my standard buttons as they are.

Ok, so the basic problem is that it appears that hotvoice.exe does not execute on my Hermes (regardless of button assignment)
I guess the question is whether or not it is supposed to run on my stock ROM? and/or if there is a way to add it.
Thanks,
Mike

zim2dive said:
Ok, so the basic problem is that it appears that hotvoice.exe does not execute on my Hermes (regardless of button assignment)
I guess the question is whether or not it is supposed to run on my stock ROM? and/or if there is a way to add it.
Thanks,
Mike
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You need a shortcut that calls MSVOICE ( I found this in one of Sleuth's threads)... See below for link to shortcut... Note: you must copy it to \Windows\Start Menu\Programs and map one of your buttons 1-4 to it. I read it will not work on button 5, so if you need to launch an app that you had mapped to its original button, you can remap that to 5 if needed. Note also that you will have a Record icon in programs, it doesnt work if you try to launch it from Programs, only by assigning to a button.
Get it here: http://forum.xda-developers.com/attachment.php?attachmentid=31341&d=1163177903

Weird.. I thought I had tried exactly that, about 5 times
But since it ain't broke no more, I'll stop trying to fix it.
Many thanks for your help!!
Mike

zim2dive said:
Weird.. I thought I had tried exactly that, about 5 times
But since it ain't broke no more, I'll stop trying to fix it.
Many thanks for your help!!
Mike
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No problem, I found that the difference is in how the shorcut is made. If you look at the content by opening it with Wordpad on your PC for example... you can see differences in the shortcuts... some ppl where making shortcuts to hotvoice.exe and renaming the shortcut to Record.lnk, some were renaming wrong... but this works for sure.

hotvoice.exe not working
Mike & ercave1, I'm also looking into usign the hotvoice.exe. I have the new ROM, even downloaded the shortcut link and nothing happens. Via Resco Explorer, I first unhide the files to view hotvoice.exe. there I find the hotvoice.exe which is 3K, and hotvoice.lnk (14B) I create a new shortcut from the .exe to the start menu. Nothing happens, I used the shortcut that ercave1 recommended and nothing. Looks like the hotvoice.exe in the Cingular 8525 new ROM and perhaps original ROM does not work or is corrupted. Looking at the attributes, hotvoice.exe shows the following: Read-Only, Hidden, System, ROM. Any help would be greatly aprreciated.

kiwikenji said:
Mike & ercave1, I'm also looking into usign the hotvoice.exe. I have the new ROM, even downloaded the shortcut link and nothing happens. Via Resco Explorer, I first unhide the files to view hotvoice.exe. there I find the hotvoice.exe which is 3K, and hotvoice.lnk (14B) I create a new shortcut from the .exe to the start menu. Nothing happens, I used the shortcut that ercave1 recommended and nothing. Looks like the hotvoice.exe in the Cingular 8525 new ROM and perhaps original ROM does not work or is corrupted. Looking at the attributes, hotvoice.exe shows the following: Read-Only, Hidden, System, ROM. Any help would be greatly aprreciated.
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How are you accessing the .lnk? Use the shortcut from the zip file.
You must place it in \Windows\Start Menu\Programs (this makes it visible in the button map app)
Then remap one of your buttons 1-4 to Record. Soft Reset.
I applied this today on my 8525 without a problem.

Yes, i unzipped the link from the file i downloaded, then i transferred it to the start menu. No luck on that. I also have a program called SKTools and there is an option to configure the 5 buttons of the 8525. It allows me to browse by file or by Alias. I noticed one of the ALIAS is :MSHOTVOICE. I tried that ALIAS along with another called :MSVOICE to no avail (I did a reset BTW). Do you have the new ROM or the original cause im not getting this hotvoice to work at all.

kiwikenji said:
Yes, i unzipped the link from the file i downloaded, then i transferred it to the start menu. No luck on that. I also have a program called SKTools and there is an option to configure the 5 buttons of the 8525. It allows me to browse by file or by Alias. I noticed one of the ALIAS is :MSHOTVOICE. I tried that ALIAS along with another called :MSVOICE to no avail (I did a reset BTW). Do you have the new ROM or the original cause im not getting this hotvoice to work at all.
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Don't understand what is happening I will try and create a cab to install this... I'm on the 2.06 PTT enabled ROM, but that should not matter...

Record cab
For those having problems creating the shortcut try this...
Install the CAB, then navigate to Start>Settings>Buttons then select one of the four buttons to modify and set it to Record, tap OK and test the button.
Let me know how it goes.

That fixed it for me.
Thanks.

berdinkerdickle said:
That fixed it for me.
Thanks.
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You're welcome, glad it works!

Glad it worked for you, unfortunately it's not working for me. There must be a thrid party application or setting that must of corrupted the hotvoice.exe. Next time I do a hard reset, I'll give it a try. Thanks again ercave1 for your help.

Hi guys, I am new to this forum but have read and benefitted from some of your posts.
Zim,
Not sure if this is what you are looking for, but the Notes app is setup to do voice records on the 8525. I will grant you this... there are absolutely NO instructions about it in the manual so I had a hell of a time finding it, but through looking around I finally discovered this.
Just open Notes and then click Menu>Show Recording Toolbar. Now you can record voice records all you want and it puts them in your notes folder for review.
Then, of course, you can map any of your buttons 1-4 to the Notes app and, since you selected to show the recording toolbar, all you do is press the mapped button and then "New" and speak.
Hope this helps (someone).
JWP

ercave1 said:
For those having problems creating the shortcut try this...
Install the CAB, then navigate to Start>Settings>Buttons then select one of the four buttons to modify and set it to Record, tap OK and test the button.
Let me know how it goes.
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cool thanks, this seemed to help.
it is odd for me the record short cut will not work directly but if map the button to it, it will work and as long as you hold the button in. it keeps recording till you are out of time.
as jwpetree said the the other way to use the recorder is to open notes 1st.
now to find a tweak to give more recording time.

how to enable multiselect with stylus!

just put this reg tweaj in regm and multusekect is ebabled adter sift reset. (exept inbox outlook).

And what exactly enables that?

smaberg said:
just put this reg tweaj in regm and multusekect is ebabled adter sift reset. (exept inbox outlook).
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I bet you are thumb-typing this on your X1 ?

SomeoneSimple said:
I bet you are thumb-typing this on your X1 ?
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Or he's still drunk from last night

But what does it do? By asking google i get that multiselect is, that i can press the stylus, move it and seclect multiple items. But this is allready working. Even in outlook. And i dont have that registry key at all. So whats the point?

nurps said:
But what does it do? By asking google i get that multiselect is, that i can press the stylus, move it and seclect multiple items. But this is allready working. Even in outlook. And i dont have that registry key at all. So whats the point?
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exactly that! in most cooked newer roms, multiselecting don't exist.(thx microsoft).
still, dr..k, and thumbtyping on microsoft soft keyboard!

smaberg said:
just put this reg tweaj in regm and multusekect is ebabled adter sift reset. (exept inbox outlook).
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Ermmm..what does 'regm' mean and where would I find it in my x1 files?

HOW to multiselect Pictures then???
Okay, if this is already there, kindly somone explain HOW I can multiselect some pictures i.e. to beam at once?
Cannot find a way, only one by one so far.

I use resco file explorer which enables me to select many files at once to beam it to another phone.

michaelthemage said:
Okay, if this is already there, kindly somone explain HOW I can multiselect some pictures i.e. to beam at once?
Cannot find a way, only one by one so far.
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well this is like holding the left mousebutton i windows and dragging the mouse to select several files at once, so in x1 and other it will work in total commander and other apps like it by simply drag stylus over several files to select them.

Oops accidental double post!

And that's all just a registry setting? How rare. Nice though, thanks!

michaelthemage said:
Okay, if this is already there, kindly somone explain HOW I can multiselect some pictures i.e. to beam at once?
Cannot find a way, only one by one so far.
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The answer to this lies in understanding bluetooth. Natively Bluetooth beam supports single file transfer. I.E. you have to send them one at a time, even folders containing multiple files cannot be beamed. This is where a third party application is required, which can automatically send multiple files 1 by 1 when you select more than one. I use Resco Explorer, out of the box it allows you to select multiple files with a drag of the stylus and perform any regular operation on them all even transfer across wifi/bluetooth. hope this helps

Don't think this has anything to do with 'understanding' either Bluetooth nor 'how its beamed'. My P990i could do this just fine with bluetooth or infrared!
And when you "try" to select more pics, the phone does not know yet what you want to do with that.... sending via Bluetooth, email, mms, etc. So that has nothing to do with this. Its a Windows craps perhaps?!?!
bharat4ever
Okay, thanks.
Will try a third party app now (once again...)

In the meantime I found to use the Virtual Keyboard, hold down Ctrl button and then can select any number of files. Most of the time it works to mutli send / beam the files/pics.
Or, one can use Resco Explorer to do the same.
Regards

Issues in the contacts list

I have a couple of problems with the contact list and the phone favorites portion of the Sense UI.
1) Are there any way to display First name then Last name in contact list? Everyone in my contacts have Last name then First name.
2) Also, if it's just a company name, when you add a contact to the "shortcuts" (the 3x3 boxes), it says "No Name". There must be a way to fix that.. right? I'd hate to go into all of my contacts that only have business names and fix it by putting the company name in the first name field. Especially considering that I'm syncing contacts with Google contacts and I would prefer to have each field be accurate.
3) Lastly, because most of my contacts do not have pictures, and the "shortcuts" will only display first name. I would for example have 5 Johns w/o any way of immediately knowing which John it is. Are there any workarounds for that?
If it's a configuration setting for some/all of these issues, could someone please point them out to me? I apologize in advance if it's a simple thing and I just couldn't find where the settings are.

Allied to the points just raised - I would like to change my favourite contacts to display surname, not just the first name. Is there a workaround to achieve this please?

Bump. Are we the only 2 people that see these as issues? Or have you guys figured out some workarounds?

Count me in...i am shouting about this from my touch pro 2 time ... i have put a shortcut to contacts in main tab, and set it to view them filtered by company name, it helps a little.

To get first name first =
Find a contact, edit the contact... scroll all the way down to the bottom, and push the "more" button. Change the second "name choice" - I cant remember what exactly its named in english. But is should be the choice of how to vies the contact. In this form you can choose first og last name.
I have'nt figured out how to do/if its possible to mass change this. I have onlyd found one by one solution
Hope it was helpfull

mobilebuddha said:
2) Also, if it's just a company name, when you add a contact to the "shortcuts" (the 3x3 boxes), it says "No Name". There must be a way to fix that.. right? I'd hate to go into all of my contacts that only have business names and fix it by putting the company name in the first name field. Especially considering that I'm syncing contacts with Google contacts and I would prefer to have each field be accurate.
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Company logo as the contact picture perhaps? I've done that myself, far better than a blank box anyway.
Similar thing with your collection of Johns.

scrabble8 said:
To get first name first =
Find a contact, edit the contact... scroll all the way down to the bottom, and push the "more" button. Change the second "name choice" - I cant remember what exactly its named in english. But is should be the choice of how to vies the contact. In this form you can choose first og last name.
I have'nt figured out how to do/if its possible to mass change this. I have onlyd found one by one solution
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I think what you're trying to say is change the 'File as' to First name, Last name.
Perhaps there's a registry hack to change the default behaviour of this field?

ContactFix
Search for ContactFix v1.3 & this will do what you're looking for. I use this & it works great on HD2.

ian_uk1975 said:
I think what you're trying to say is change the 'File as' to First name, Last name.
Perhaps there's a registry hack to change the default behaviour of this field?
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Yes ! That is the name of the field for changing first or last name Thanks !

could you point to me where ContactFix v1.3 is? I found a posting by someone with 4 cabs here:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showpost.php?p=966683&postcount=3
However, installing it does nothing on my HD2. Can you tell me where the ContactFix v1.3 is? thanks!

Bump. Could someone point me to the location for the ContactFix program? I searched but couldn't come up with exactly v1.3 of the program. Anyone?
Thanks in advance for the assistance!

Contact Fix
mobilebuddha said:
Bump. Could someone point me to the location for the ContactFix program? I searched but couldn't come up with exactly v1.3 of the program. Anyone?
Thanks in advance for the assistance!
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Check your PM......Cheers!

weepatc said:
Check your PM......Cheers!
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Could you pm me with the info to please

I'm sorry to dig up an old thread of my own, but I still have an issue un-resolved from the ContactFix solution. The ContactFix solution does provide the sorting fix. However, in the Sense UI's "shortcuts" for the People, I can still only have a first name.
So if you've got 5-6 Johns and you don't have a picture for them, then you are pretty much screwed - you can't really tell which is which unless you have memorized exactly where on the shortcut list you've placed them.
HTC, could you please fix this? I really don't understand how something as basic as this was missed in QA!

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I'm sorry to dig up an old thread of my own, but I still have an issue un-resolved from the ContactFix solution. The ContactFix solution does provide the sorting fix. However, in the Sense UI's "shortcuts" for the People, I can still only have a first name.
So if you've got 5-6 Johns and you don't have a picture for them, then you are pretty much screwed - you can't really tell which is which unless you have memorized exactly where on the shortcut list you've placed them.
HTC, could you please fix this? I really don't understand how something as basic as this was missed in QA!
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I believe the shortcuts are meant to be used with a photo. There's no room there to put labels with first and lastname. So unless you name them John1, John2 etc, I don't think there's a solution.

30 seconds in MS paint should give you an image with Faceless John's full name typed on it. It's a reasonable workaround for those shadowy figures with no visible appearance.
Not perfect, but it's something.

Further to the earlier raised issue of contacts defaulting to File As.. Last Name, First Name.
I have between 450 - 500 contacts in Outlook and sync'd to my HD2 via Exchange Server. Works well. Nearly all of the time my contacts are added/edited on my laptop and I love the fact they are automatically 'there' on my phone.
I also like the HTC front-end interface for the Contacts bit of Windows Mobile 6.5, making it easier (finger friendly) to add contacts. However this interface neither gives you the option to default to File As.. First Name, Last Name nor let you change it on entry/edit. Instead you have to then go into the native WM6.5 Contacts bit and change it there. A bit of a pain and oversight in my opinion.
Ideally there'd be a way to set a default? Any ideas anyone?
Thanks in advance..

I'm sorry, but that's not a reasonable request from my point of view. The system should at least give you the option.
To be honest, I really think you've used to mediocre OS for too long. I did not just spend $800 so I can use MS Paint to paint a faceless John full name typed on it. If I spent $50, I might be okay with that, but not when I spend $800.
mr_Ray said:
30 seconds in MS paint should give you an image with Faceless John's full name typed on it. It's a reasonable workaround for those shadowy figures with no visible appearance.
Not perfect, but it's something.
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Actually, I have a question: Would a custom ROM for HD2 be able to fix this? I'm just asking about the possibility, not whether we can do it right now or not. I know that the phone is so new that we don't have custom ROMs yet.
But would it be possible for a custom cooked ROM alleviate issues like this?

Actually, I have a question: Would a custom ROM for HD2 be able to fix this? I'm just asking about the possibility, not whether we can do it right now or not. I know that the phone is so new that we don't have custom ROMs yet.
But would it be possible for a custom cooked ROM alleviate issues like this?

stuck!

how do i change the contact name from Last, First name to First last?
anyone know i cant bloody find this thing anywhere!!

ive search for this and couldnt find anything, in the end i just put peoples names in the first name space only.

ah thats abit annoying

Search for Contact Changer or Contact Fix. This does what you're looking for, even better it's free & works a treat. Hope this helps.

Try this...
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=549477

Saw this somewhere, maybe on here..sorry to OP, cannot find original.
If you sync with outlook
Click on the person name
say the name is john smith if you click the “file as” drop down. it will show two option
“Smith john” and “john smith” click which one you want
You will need to do this to each name
Its only 3 click with a mouse so it wont take long unless you got 500 name to change lol…….

that sucks alot.. lol

Martyn Day said:
that sucks alot.. lol
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SIMPLE SOLUTION: Just download and install the freeware application Contact Fix, also called Contact Changer on this website. Install the application (click on the .cab file within the file explorer of your phone). Then open the application by clicking on the shortcut in the windows menu. When you run it, it orders ALL your contact at once in less than a second, almost instantly. It won't change the default order though, so when you a new contact, you'll have to run the app again. But it's so easy and quick!

manila softkey

I'm having a real moment, and searching doesn't help, but i wanna change the left home soft key from Phone to All People. Anyone got a cab?
Thanks

EddyOS said:
I'm having a real moment, and searching doesn't help, but i wanna change the left home soft key from Phone to All People. Anyone got a cab?
Thanks
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Havent got a cab but the reg keys are:
\HKLM\Software\HTC\Manila
HomeLSKPath (path to the executable)
HomeLSKText (Text of the Button)

what's the executable though? I'll have a dig about and see what I can break!!

EddyOS said:
what's the executable though? I'll have a dig about and see what I can break!!
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no idea tbh.
i just ran all people and looked at the processes running on my device and it doesnt show up as a seperate entity... makes me think this might not be possible?!!?!
let me know if you manage to crack it.
Incidently... i set my manila LSK to launch the camera app as "all people" can be accessed when you hit the phone dialer with left hard key.

Try this for the path...
Manila://people\browserlayer\?.page

Last thing, I guess I can just use a mobile reg editor to do all this and then a soft reset?

EddyOS said:
Last thing, I guess I can just use a mobile reg editor to do all this and then a soft reset?
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Yes mate. I plump for CeRegEditor as you can do it on your PC via ActiveSync, but obviously any reg editor will do.

I like IBE registry editor for winmo as a pure standard registry editor.
But i have started using dotfreds task manager for reg edits as it has so much capability. Not just a reg editor but a task manager (the best imo), plus endless amounts of other stuff.
BTW @JohnC... did you try that path yourself? does it work etc? where did you get that info from?

Audio Oblivion said:
I like IBE registry editor for winmo as a pure standard registry editor.
But i have started using dotfreds task manager for reg edits as it has so much capability. Not just a reg editor but a task manager (the best imo), plus endless amounts of other stuff.
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Completely OT (and I slate people for that normally) - I've got dotfred's task manager on my storage card, but never actually used it. I didn't realise it did reg editing too. Is it finger friendly (I use Total Commander, so most things are finger friendly in comparison!)
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I've got a Dutty ROM on my phone and it adds the "All People" link as standard. I just got that value out of the registry. Would love a list of all the Manila:// commands available!

Awesome!
Slowly getting my head around WinMo and its foibles - just need to spend some time in a kitchen and I might start making my own ROMs to my taste...we'll see though as the missus hates I play with it enough as it is!!!
I was using Dutty's ROM but the V.06 had the gash outlines on the buttons so went back to stock 1.66...might try v.07 though

johncmolyneux said:
Would love a list of all the Manila:// commands available!
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Thats what i was hoping you'd link me too! lol
DotFreds is excellent... its not that finger firendly but i forgive that as it is so powerful. Its shows me more about my winmo device then task manager does on desktop windows.
I have it assigned to long press send key which is extremely handy. Once you start it... click on the drop down menu (top right of the interface) and scroll through all of its options.... a truly epic program imo.

Audio Oblivion said:
Thats what i was hoping you'd link me too! lol
DotFreds is excellent... its not that finger firendly but i forgive that as it is so powerful. Its shows me more about my winmo device then task manager does on desktop windows.
I have it assigned to long press send key which is extremely handy. Once you start it... click on the drop down menu (top right of the interface) and scroll through all of its options.... a truly epic program imo.
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Nice one. Think I'll have a play with that tonight. Cheers

for ref, that path you put worked a treat - nice one!!

EddyOS said:
for ref, that path you put worked a treat - nice one!!
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Glad to hear it. That's one for the bookmarks!

now if I could just get rid of the CoPilot trial I'd be happy!!

EddyOS said:
now if I could just get rid of the CoPilot trial I'd be happy!!
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You can just delete it mate. Delete the CoPilot folder in program files, delete the shortcut, delete the folder on the storage card and it's gone!

yeah but if I hard reset it its back - would just be easier to get a ROM with just that reg edit and CoPilot gone and I'd acutually be happy for now!

EddyOS said:
yeah but if I hard reset it its back - would just be easier to get a ROM with just that reg edit and CoPilot gone and I'd acutually be happy for now!
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Sounds like Dutty's ROM to me

does v07 have the old soft keys or them gash now button ones? if it's the former ill get it on as i downloaded it this morning before work...

EddyOS said:
does v07 have the old soft keys or them gash now button ones? if it's the former ill get it on as i downloaded it this morning before work...
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I got this one...
http://htcpedia.com/duttys_leo_hg_multi_lang_v_9f8ef5533cf709534/soft/htc-leo-rom.html
It's a 6.5 version, not a 6.5.3, so no silly buttons on the menu bar.