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[IDEA] Multidevice kitchen

I've been thinking lately... I've been thinking of creating a new multidevice kitchen. The kitchen would support every current device, be based on the newest version of Bepe's kitchen or maybe the visual kitchen. It would add certain things like:
Automatically insert the cecompr.dll needed for both LZX and XPR compressions
Automatically hex edit the imgfs.bin during the cooking process to allow to LZX compression
It would come with an empty payload file for every device
It would support multiple languages and come with language packs
It would use the standard layout of bepe's kitchen/the visual kitchen so it would be easy to also keep build packages that would apply to every kitchen.
If I could get enough cooks involved from other devices, we could even have base STRIPED OEMs from every device that people can easily download.
We can make it automatically be able to dump any ROM and easily extract its XIP or SYS and import them into the kitchen or make the files into a package compatible with the kitchen that people could upload for everyone else to use. (Easier to spread new builds leaked by other people.)
I need more ideas as to what we could make this kitchen do.
I also need to know if any cooks would be willing to help out as it would be a MASSIVE project.
I would start it as soon as I'm done with two ROMs that I'm currently working for and a few kitchen that I'm modding for some people for LZX/XPR multicompression.

No comments, yet.
I'm working with ervius to add the LZX compression to the kitchen itself.
If no one helps, then it's going to be a little hard to do since I will have to download the default ROM for each and every device and then strip down the OEM. Then create bigROM packages to release as well. And then I can't test it since I don't have every device, so it's going to be a little bit of a slow process.
What I will end up doing will be more like just taking ervius kitchen, add a few things here and there and make all the packages and builds and whatnot available. Or at the least create a thread where people can post packages left and right. A repository of sorts. (A lot like the PPCgeeks's BuildOS but compatible with every device and using ervius awesome kitchen.)

Sounds like what Anchilus had one time! I think it was named as hypercore. But great idea though. I am not an expert cook or programmer, but I do cook ROM for myself sometime. My biggest thing is porting the ROM, doesnt matter what tutorial I read, I just dont get it LOL

Take a look in the raphael forums. Already done.

Will Help You
Ivan,
You know that I am willing to do anything I can to help you. Problem is that we have the same devices and you are my mentor so I am not sure how much help I would be, but whatever you need, you name it and I will do my best to help you out however I can.

GSLEON3 said:
Take a look in the raphael forums. Already done.
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I looked. I couldn't find a multidevice kitchen...

GSLEON3 said:
Take a look in the raphael forums. Already done.
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I think you mean this? http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=505800
Would be a great idea one kitchen for all devices, although I think the extra devices should be added in the form of plug-in, because nobody likes to dl a 20 GB kitchen . I would help but I'm not that great at dumping but especially not with the still changing structure of ervius visual bepe's kitchen. Is there a wiki or tutorial somewhere that properly explains where to put which folders? 12

Yes, it wouldn't include all the devices at once. The aim of the project is to provide plugin packages for every device. A standard repository of oem packages (divided by QVGA, VGA, WVGA, etc), a standard repository of SYS and XIP builds, and a standard set of stripped down OEMs from different devices. Everything would be downloaded seperately. It's a huge project, that's why I would need lots of help.
EDIT: Just read that link. Kind of like that, but for multiple devices. Including language packs and all.

ivanmmj said:
Yes, it wouldn't include all the devices at once. The aim of the project is to provide plugin packages for every device. A standard repository of oem packages (divided by QVGA, VGA, WVGA, etc), a standard repository of SYS and XIP builds, and a standard set of stripped down OEMs from different devices. Everything would be downloaded seperately. It's a huge project, that's why I would need lots of help.
EDIT: Just read that link. Kind of like that, but for multiple devices. Including language packs and all.
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To get the attention of the cooks I think you should start sending email to the chefs and maybe a couple of mods too. I don't think it should be much of a problem on the raph forum, we are blessed with kind and sharing chefs, 12

i would love to help out with the kitchen.
although, i dont like bepe's way of cooking as much as the old way
multi-device sounds great, like in the days of hypercore

mbarvian said:
i would love to help out with the kitchen.
although, i dont like bepe's way of cooking as much as the old way
multi-device sounds great, like in the days of hypercore
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You can use my kitchen (based on visual kitchen) to add more devices but someone should develop a kind of frontend app to have ability to download only desired build, device OEMs, VGA/QVGA etc (manual selection will be a nightmare for normal users) . I can help in building such a kitchen but I can't write app, sorry

ivanmmj said:
Yes, it wouldn't include all the devices at once. The aim of the project is to provide plugin packages for every device. A standard repository of oem packages (divided by QVGA, VGA, WVGA, etc), a standard repository of SYS and XIP builds, and a standard set of stripped down OEMs from different devices. Everything would be downloaded seperately. It's a huge project, that's why I would need lots of help.
EDIT: Just read that link. Kind of like that, but for multiple devices. Including language packs and all.
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qsqa said:
You can use my kitchen (based on visual kitchen) to add more devices but someone should develop a kind of frontend app to have ability to download only desired build, device OEMs, VGA/QVGA etc (manual selection will be a nightmare for normal users) . I can help in building such a kitchen but I can't write app, sorry
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You mean like an kitchen appstore or a bat to move everything into the right folders? 12

That's a great idea. An app that automatically downloads the needed files just for your device type of thing... I'm not a programmer, though.
I want this to also have language packs that modify the language of the ROM.
Let this be the kitchen to rule all kitchens.

ivanmmj said:
That's a great idea. An app that automatically downloads the needed files just for your device type of thing... I'm not a programmer, though.
I want this to also have language packs that modify the language of the ROM.
Let this be the kitchen to rule all kitchens.
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i agree, this would be a very great idea. I think ppcgeeks has something similar with their BuildOS kitchen
p.s. ivan, while you're here, could you answer this question for me?
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Replace the FIRST one and FIRST ONE ONLY with "LZX". Save the file, close the hex editor. Let your kitchen do it's thing.
That's it.
http://www.4shared.com/file/101370353/b7650aff/Compression.html
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do we need to do this step on the "mythical" cecompr.dll?
thanks

mbarvian said:
i agree, this would be a very great idea. I think ppcgeeks has something similar with their BuildOS kitchen
p.s. ivan, while you're here, could you answer this question for me?
do we need to do this step on the "mythical" cecompr.dll?
thanks
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Already answered there.
But,
Yes.
The cecompr.dll is what tells the XIP how to read the LZX compressed imgfs.bin. The hex editing is what tells the kitchen tools to write the imgfs.bin in LZX compression.
I worked with evirus and now his kitchen has an option for LZX compression. It will do everything automatically. ^_^

That's a great idea. Not sure it could work on my device (ks20) as bepe's kitchen crashes on my nk.exe so I have to build xip part the old way (using xipport). Anyways, if you need french 96dpi resources, I can give you mine.
And for this project, instead of a special software to download packages, why not using a svn repository ?

Although a SVN repository would be awesome, I wonder if there would be a legal problem just like there was with the XDA FTP server used to host ROMs and stuff for building ROMs?

Yes, that's possible... perhaps we should ask a moderator, what was the exact reason it was removed (because after all, everything is still present on this forum, it's just not grouped in 1 place, but I think legal issues remain).
I also know that somewhere on the web, there is a svn server for winmo builds (I had once a wm build that had .svn folders).

Ivan, You can use my site to host your files, repositories, and current roms. I can alot you as much space as needed and even a .info domain name if you like. It will be hosted on the the same host as mycw.info (My gf's site for our chickens and stuff.) PM me or just respond on this post.

DestructDez1 said:
Ivan, You can use my site to host your files, repositories, and current roms. I can alot you as much space as needed and even a .info domain name if you like. It will be hosted on the the same host as mycw.info (My gf's site for our chickens and stuff.) PM me or just respond on this post.
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PM sent. Thank you!!

[Release] [Kitchen] - SuperJustKitchen v0.7 - Shields up!

SuperJustKitchen v0.7 Released.
Go to my site: http://justkitchen.info to get the updates and the info. It takes to long to update every device's forum that is supported, and I plan to support all devices.
For more information on the kitchen, please read: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?p=4288668
Word of warning:
None of the new EXT's have been tested and fixed for the Herald, Opal, Hermes AND Artemis. Please test test and test and then let me know which packages don't work and what YOU've done to fix them. (I don't have time to fix ALL of them by myself.)
(I'm no longer updating each thread separately for each device but just updating my site and posting the release info here.)

ivanmmj said:
Now with Opal support!!
Wait until you see the announcement on my site to know that it's been updated/uploaded.
Word of warning:
SJK v.5 has had some major changes. None of the new EXT's have been tested and fixed for the Herald and Opal. Please test test and test and then let me know which packages don't work and what YOU've done to fix them. (I don't have time to fix ALL of them by myself.)
Take not that there are many versions of certain packages. Let me know if the older ones are close enough to the new ones so that I can delete the old ones.
Go to my site: http://justkitchen.info to get the updates and the info. It takes to long to update every device's forum that is supported, and I plan to support all devices.
At the moment, consider SJK v0.5 to be a test... Don't expect to have THAT many builds when it goes into v0.5.5
Right now it has the following builds available to you:
21054 (wm6.1)
21864 (COM2 - old style gui - wm6.5)
23064 (COM4 - newer gui - wm6.5)
5.5 will only have 21054, 21864, and 23064 unless something new gets released.
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Thanks for providing us a new kitchen for opal. Can u give me a tutorial on using this kitchen for opal. Full explaination plz

It works exactly the same as your other Ervius based kitchen. You can follow that tutorial as well.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showpost.php?p=4446173&postcount=3
The real difference is that I do the porting of new builds and the addition of new EXT packages for you.
(Granted, I've added more options under the Extra Buttons section, but you can go in there and figure out what most things are from their names and descriptions.)

Thanks BUT....
Thanks for your work man BUT: When i make my rom everything works Except the HOME settings and COMM manager,it is the same thing with BesFen kitchen,sometimes it works and then sometimes it does not.
I have tried and tried but nothing seems to help,i give up. I hope you guys can figure it out. Thanks.

What Home settings?
As far as the COMM Manager, don't choose the Comm manager in the EXT list. It's meant for older devices (like the Herald). Don't choose a Comm Manager at all. The OEM still has a comm manager built in. It will automatically insert a working comm manager.

Sorry i meant when you go to start/settings/Today does not work and i did not choose the comm manager, the one that comes with the oem does not work. Like i said sometimes they work and then it does not.

theglen35 said:
Sorry i meant when you go to start/settings/Today does not work and i did not choose the comm manager, the one that comes with the oem does not work. Like i said sometimes they work and then it does not.
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Weird... The Today works fine on the Herald and it's part of the SYS, not the OEM. Are adding or not adding the MyCPL?
So the Comm Manager, even the one that's made FOR the phone has problems?

No i left out MyCpl. What is that BTW. The same thing happens in BesFen kitchen but it works when you put the PP on 12,anything higher it will not work.But i tried it on 12 & 16 PP in your kitchen but it does not work at all.Also when using file explorer and when selecting a theme when Today is working i have to long press or hold down the stylus to select something.

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No i left out MyCpl. What is that BTW. The same thing happens in BesFen kitchen but it works when you put the PP on 12,anything higher it will not work.But i tried it on 12 & 16 PP in your kitchen but it does not work at all.Also when using file explorer and when selecting a theme when Today is working i have to long press or hold down the stylus to select something.
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So it happens with BesFen's kitchen as well? The Opal is so strange and different than the other devices when it comes to cooking, I wonder what other changes I must make to the kitchen to get it work properly. At the moment, without an Opal, I can only make a kitchen as good as BesFen can when it comes to proper NB creation. Does anyone have a current WORKING kitchen for the Opal that doesn't have these problems? If so, point me to it and I will study the differences.
As a side note: Doesn't the Opal use myCPL by default? If it does, then you MUST choose it.

If you know PhamQuang you can ask him what kitchen he uses,his roms are usually buggy but i think the last one he made was good and everything works smooth.

You can find more detailed info on the kitchen in the main thread.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=545572&highlight=superjustkitchen
theglen35, I'll go ahead and try to contact PhamQuang. Thanks.

ivanmmj said:
As a side note: Doesn't the Opal use myCPL by default? If it does, then you MUST choose it.
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Official Opal's ROM have MyCPL, it should be include in ROM.
The reason I made opal's kitchen because no one share working kitchen here, some one asked me to make kitchen for Opal.
PhamQuang is from PDAVIET, and as we all know they always don't want to share the kitchen and source. You can try to contact him, maybe they change their mind now.

BesFen said:
Official Opal's ROM have MyCPL, it should be include in ROM.
The reason I made opal's kitchen because no one share working kitchen here, some one asked me to make kitchen for Opal.
PhamQuang is from PDAVIET, and as we all know they always don't want to share the kitchen and source. You can try to contact him, maybe they change their mind now.
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Hey BesFen THANKS very much for making a kitchen for the Opal,I have made many roms with it and except for a few problems it works good.But i think you should try and get all the bugs and problems worked out so we don't have to rely or wait for PhamQuang or PDAVIET to get any roms.
Because of the problems i am using Opals original WM 6.1 until you guys can figure it out.

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Hey BesFen THANKS very much for making a kitchen for the Opal,I have made many roms with it and except for a few problems it works good.But i think you should try and get all the bugs and problems worked out so we don't have to rely or wait for PhamQuang or PDAVIET to get any roms.
Because of the problems i am using Opals original WM 6.1 until you guys can figure it out.
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If your ROM can boot, it mean the kitchen work great.
The problem that you figure is not causes by the kitchen, it's pure something in the ext or OEM or SYS, try to read more reference from others device thread, I can't fix it since I don't have opal for test it, I am sorry about that.

ivanmmj said:
Now with Opal support!!
Wait until you see the announcement on my site to know that it's been updated/uploaded.
Word of warning:
SJK v.5 has had some major changes. None of the new EXT's have been tested and fixed for the Herald and Opal. Please test test and test and then let me know which packages don't work and what YOU've done to fix them. (I don't have time to fix ALL of them by myself.)
Take not that there are many versions of certain packages. Let me know if the older ones are close enough to the new ones so that I can delete the old ones.
Go to my site: http://justkitchen.info to get the updates and the info. It takes to long to update every device's forum that is supported, and I plan to support all devices.
At the moment, consider SJK v0.5 to be a test... Don't expect to have THAT many builds when it goes into v0.5.5
Right now it has the following builds available to you:
21054 (wm6.1)
21864 (COM2 - old style gui - wm6.5)
23064 (COM4 - newer gui - wm6.5)
5.5 will only have 21054, 21864, and 23064 unless something new gets released.
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thanks ivan u've done great... thanks for having opal too in ur kitchen.. hopfully everything work great like the herald... ur the best... i thought i'll never see u since my phone is not the wing no more its touch viva now.. cuz i like wat u done for herald lots cooks already doing different roms... it is impressive... hopfully i'll start my own too... for here... thanks alot ivan keep it up...

BesFen said:
Official Opal's ROM have MyCPL, it should be include in ROM.
The reason I made opal's kitchen because no one share working kitchen here, some one asked me to make kitchen for Opal.
PhamQuang is from PDAVIET, and as we all know they always don't want to share the kitchen and source. You can try to contact him, maybe they change their mind now.
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Yea, if the Opal comes with the MyCPL and they don't choose it, then that's part of the problem.
I agree with you, though. Technically, the issue is not with the kitchen but with what you DO with the kitchen as a cook. Since I don't have an Opal either, I won't be able to look around and preemptively fix all the bugs by pre-packaging certain EXT's into the OEM.
I also appreciate you working on that Opal kitchen. It's what I used as an example to get the Opal compatibility on my own kitchen. I appreciate your advise about PDAVIET.
ob_izzy, now it's your turn to be a great cook. ^_^

I agree with you, though. Technically, the issue is not with the kitchen but with what you DO with the kitchen as a cook. Since I don't have an Opal either, I won't be able to look around and preemptively fix all the bugs by pre-packaging certain EXT's into the OEM.
Come on guys, what are you saying? Both of you are making a kitchen for a device that you don't have and can't test and you are saying it's not the kitchen! I beg to differ because believe me i have tried all sorts of ways to get the rom to work including reading alot, re-arranging files, adding, leaving out, different PP. Maybe it still has stuff to add or leave out that i don't know about, so that is where you guys come in. I need PLEH.

theglen35 said:
I agree with you, though. Technically, the issue is not with the kitchen but with what you DO with the kitchen as a cook. Since I don't have an Opal either, I won't be able to look around and preemptively fix all the bugs by pre-packaging certain EXT's into the OEM.
Come on guys, what are you saying? Both of you are making a kitchen for a device that you don't have and can't test and you are saying it's not the kitchen! I beg to differ because believe me i have tried all sorts of ways to get the rom to work including reading alot, re-arranging files, adding, leaving out, different PP. Maybe it still has stuff to add or leave out that i don't know about, so that is where you guys come in. I need PLEH.
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The kitchen only puts things together. What the stuff does depends on the OEM's and EXT's included. If you took all the EXT's that came with the official Opal ROM, you may not have any bugs because the manufacturer has worked out all those little bugs. If I had an Opal to play with, I'd probably find all the bugs myself and fix them (like I did with the Herald.) Unfortunately, we need the help of a very experienced Opal cook who HAS an Opal. (Or I need an Opal, which isn't happening since I have a G1 as my main phone and wouldn't buy an Opal to replace it (nothing wrong with the Opal, but I love android. )

theglen35 said:
Come on guys, what are you saying? Both of you are making a kitchen for a device that you don't have and can't test and you are saying it's not the kitchen! I beg to differ because believe me i have tried all sorts of ways to get the rom to work including reading alot, re-arranging files, adding, leaving out, different PP. Maybe it still has stuff to add or leave out that i don't know about, so that is where you guys come in. I need PLEH.
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You can make an experience, dump the official opal's ROM (ruusigned.nbh) with Visual kitchen from mine or ivanmmj, go to the official rom folder, there is a "dump" folder there with Ervius kitchen tools, then run that kitchen and build the rom, it will build ROM same as official that you dump. If it run well, no problem with the kitchen.

BesFen said:
You can make an experience, dump the official opal's ROM (ruusigned.nbh) with Visual kitchen from mine or ivanmmj, go to the official rom folder, there is a "dump" folder there with Ervius kitchen tools, then run that kitchen and build the rom, it will build ROM same as official that you dump. If it run well, no problem with the kitchen.
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Great suggestion man. I tried it and it did build the 6.1 rom without problems but it builds 6.1 good but not 6.5. When it builds wm 6.5 there are problems.

Introduction to Chef Central [READ FIRST!!]

I would like to present a small personal collection of general cooking/develoment links I came across browsing XDA.
Please feel free to add/suggest your own.
This is just the beginning. I will format this post to be easier to follow.
Frequently used Tags to add to a title:
[SOLVED] or [SOLUTION] = Solution to problem found, thread remains open (not locked) for others to add discussion points.
[TUT] or [TUTORIAL] = Tutorials.
[Q] or [QUESTION] = Question; change to [SOLUTION] or [SOLVED] when solved.
[PROBLEM] = Issue/problem; change to [SOLUTION] or [SOLVED] when solved.

Kitchen Resources
The great "official" 6.5 releases thread started by the great Da_G. This is where we usually see posts about new releases and discussions about those releases.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=544445
Tutorial for using the visual kitchen (excellent reference!)
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=521632
Bepe's platform rebuilder
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=467488
The Raphael OEM repository...
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=482173
Conflipper's collection of SHIPPED ROMs
http://conflipper.com/shipped
Sparklien's kitchen
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=515824
Welcome.exe how to disable certain parts of it
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=269507
Sense 2.5 tweaks and mods started by Smaberg
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=584415
Sense 2.5 VGA port thread
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=633795
Opera Browser central thread
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=486502
Ervius's DSM Editor tool
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=523139
Ervius's Great Visual kitchen
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=469420
Dotcompt's EXT collection
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=642817
Personal OEMizer Tool for newbies chefs
http://tiermann.net/index.php?optio...d=3:personal-oemizer&catid=1:Desktop&Itemid=3
Duron's cooking essentials kitchen tools
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=587655
Debug over activesync tool set
http://www.xs4all.nl/~itsme/projects/xda/tools.html
Leo OEM repository
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=611007
XDA HTC Leo File Sharing (Shipped ROMs, OEMs, Cabs, Hotfixes and everyone can upload)
http://XDAShareLeo.4shared.com/
Leo OEMs and Tweaks
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=624256
Leo Tips Hints reg entries tweaks
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=583638
More sense 2.5 cabs and tweaks
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=637671
Sixty Universal Tutorials from Mr. Makk
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=564130

Manila Resources
Reserved for future use

Reserved for future use

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@NRGZ28:
Here's another good resource; feel free to add it to your list and delete this post. Let me know if you need a hand doing that.
[GUIDE] 58 Universal Tutorials for Customizing any Device and Cooking
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=564130

Congrats NRGZ8!!
Great collection!

hilaireg said:
@NRGZ28:
Here's another good resource; feel free to add it to your list and delete this post. Let me know if you need a hand doing that.
[GUIDE] 58 Universal Tutorials for Customizing any Device and Cooking
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=564130
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Awesome collection. Let's keep adding things like that... than we can shape this thread into something that easily flows and is easily searched and read. Right now, we're just throwing things together and "brainstorming"...or should I said... "threadstorming". Hehe

nice collection dude

For let this thread a bit clear for newcomers, isnt better to edit NRGZ post instead make a new post?
Thanks.
hilaireg said:
@NRGZ28:
Here's another good resource; feel free to add it to your list and delete this post. Let me know if you need a hand doing that.
[GUIDE] 58 Universal Tutorials for Customizing any Device and Cooking
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=564130
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Thanks NRGZ28!!

Here are some manila editing tool's
[UTILITY] Manila 3D Kitchen [BETA, with rhodium manila support]
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=487331
[KITCHEN][09.03.2010]Manila CMD Kitchen Environment
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=528548
[REF][APP] Manila file names
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=546820

af974 said:
For let this thread a bit clear for newcomers, isnt better to edit NRGZ post instead make a new post?
Thanks.
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It's probably best to have folks post link to other resources for the moment so as to allow NRG to collect, review, and organize them in some order. That said, I agree that we shouldn't allow the thread to grow to a point that it contains too many pages.
NRGZ28 said:
Awesome collection. Let's keep adding things like that... than we can shape this thread into something that easily flows and is easily searched and read. Right now, we're just throwing things together and "brainstorming"...or should I said... "threadstorming". Hehe
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Do you have sufficient premissions to delete posts in this thread? If not, let a moderator know and we'll help delete posts and/or add post to thread that are assigned to you.
* EDIT *
Inserted some extra posts for you, let me know if you need any more.
Cheers,

I wish I could have found this a few months ago ....
Anyways, here are my two cents on this:
This is a fantastic idea since information is scattered throughout the site when it comes to cooking instructions. There is no single guide on how to do this and most people have different takes on how to do certain things. Having a centralized cooking resource (sub-forum) is by far the best idea I have seen in xda in the last couple of years.
Now, there is one other thing. I know that most of the information posted is for newer devices (meaning any device whose rom extension is nbh. I personally have a Blue Angel, which has roms with extension nbf. Cooking for these devices is a completely different story since porting is different as well. I will add a few links that I found along the way for cooking nbf roms, but if any of you have any good guides about this, please share them
All in all, NRG, you have outdone yourself once again!
Congrats and let me know if I can be of any help!

Dotcompt's EXT collection
Hi guys
Regarding Dotcompt's EXT collection kindly posted by NRGZ28 in the first post:
I have extended these Leaked exts to other devices resolution like HVGA or QVGA instead of WVGA only.
So for a start, I added the HVGA - Photon EXT EastEurope_1.06.479.2_Manila_Core_2_5_20131825_0, and you can find it in the original thread.
I also asked Daveshaw to move this thread from Rhodium sub-forum to the Windows Mobile Development and Hacking > Windows Mobile Software Development forum.
Thanks

Great!!
But can you point me on QVGA version one? i cant find any QVGA in you thread.
Thanks.
dotcompt said:
Hi guys
Regarding Dotcompt's EXT collection kindly posted by NRGZ28 in the first post:
I have extended these Leaked exts to other devices resolution like HVGA or QVGA instead of WVGA only.
So for a start, I added the HVGA - Photon EXT EastEurope_1.06.479.2_Manila_Core_2_5_20131825_0, and you can find it in the original thread.
I also asked Daveshaw to move this thread from Rhodium sub-forum to the Windows Mobile Development and Hacking > Windows Mobile Software Development forum.
Thanks
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af974 said:
Great!!
But can you point me on QVGA version one? i cant find any QVGA in you thread.
Thanks.
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I will upload the EXTs from Mega_HTC_Europe_1.28.401.4 in a couple of hours.
Edit: Wait , wait, I just got my hands on Mega_TMO_UK_1.33.110.2.
It is going to take a few hours to download & upload.

New Mega version
OMG cant wait for that ...leave my hat mate
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I will upload the EXTs from Mega_HTC_Europe_1.28.401.4 in a couple of hours.
Edit: Wait , wait, I just got my hands on Mega_TMO_UK_1.33.110.2.
It is going to take a few hours to download & upload.
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Here's a link to the Extendir thread. Even if you don't want to use (I don't use it myself), it's very good reading, and has a lot of great info. The thread itself should probably be moved over to this forum. It might cut down on the noobs who periodically poke their heads in and ask for a .cab.

Hey guys,
Great work going on here, let me know if i can be of some help here, collating, moving and deleting etc.
Cheers and keep it up
Tim.

Please help me start out - Rhodium Rom

Ok, I came to the point where I would like to see if it's possible to cook my own rom. There is, however, so much (cluttered) information around the forum and I just have no idea where to start. I did figure some stuff out, but with everything I find out I also get more questions. I hope I'm allowed to ask these here.
Windows Mobile / Sense:
I am planning to begin flashing a rom only for my phone: Rhodium / Touch Pro 2. I just don't realy get how I can get the latest version of windows mobile (the on with the start menu at the top left) and sense (2.5.2015 ?). The stock roms I can find for Rhodium contain older versions.
Kitchens:
There are quite some kitchens out there, even those that do a lot of work for you. To understand everything, however, I would rather get a kitchen with only the essential tools. This way I am hoping to understand what steps are needed for the cooking. What kitchen would be recommended for this?
Terms
There are lots of terms around, but for some of them I can't figure out what exactly they are.
- XIP
- SYS
- OEM
Thanks!
~Sph

For WM, you should find the newest version of COM2 build, which is Build 21905 at this moment. It seems that not mentioned in XDA, but you could Google for that.
I think you should be able to use these essential tools, often refer as "old style" kitchen
ImgfsFromDump
xidump (ImgfsToDump) and DMP2PKG
osnbtool
BuildOS
EXTReloc
XIPPort
maybe there are more tools when you need to repack back to nbh format
For Terms, you should read Da_G's post here
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=544445

I will tell you this....
read the tutorials... check the main stickie
read eve you dont understand nothing... then when you want to start trying things, you can ask.. with some knowledge.. the lates kitchen to date is Oskitchen by airxtreme and osbuilder.. i guess

Not to be mean but like +Que PPC said READ FIRST you should have look for information first and found this answers by your self ... Now about the systems and xip ext, sys, modules, cabs and all other stuff like that you will learn them when you start working on a kitchen.
About the kitchens there are various kitchens it just deppends which one you want to choose, all the kitchens will help you create your rom and customise it, and also one recomendation and requirement that you should have in order to create your own rom and that is patience and time, because you will need to look for alot of info and also looking for fixes and customisation and all of that.
Here is another kitchen that I recomended thanks to +Que PPC with the tutorial with videos in english made by me.
HTML:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=669535
PS. Search & read first

XIP = eXicuteInPlace -- it's the core of the entire OS. Without it you got nothing.
XIP is made up of 2 main parts:
oemxipkernel - device specific
msxipkernel - build specific to SYS version
SYS is basically all the microsoft files
OEM is basically all the device specific files, and nonMS applications
If you have a CDMA Touch Pro 2, I have a kitchen here all set up for you:
http://www.mobileunderground.info/showthread.php?t=12797
If you have GSM, you will need to change out some components of the kitchen, specifically xip and oemdrivers, plus a few other things.

[Q] Problem: No changes take effect in cooked ROM in EVK!

Hi pals
I Cooked a WM6.1 19971 Official ROM for OPAL in Ervius Visual Kitchen. The cooked ROM seems quite alright except that:
1.The original ROM was about 100MB while despite the fact that I added a lot of packages, the cooked ROM is about 80MB.
2.None of my packages exist in the cooked ROM when I flash it.
Can you tell me what the problem is?

The smaller size is fine.
What do you mean packages not there?
Are the files not in the windows folder or are you just missing shortcuts?

mnvoh said:
2.None of my packages exist in the cooked ROM when I flash it.
Can you tell me what the problem is?
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What?!...EVK generates a build_log...look at this, and u'll see, what's in your rom.
Cannot belive that u've applied packages in EVK they wouldn't cook in....strange.

It is happened to me too in the beginning when i was cooking for kaiser and tried to cook inside HTC Mega packages with Manila 2d...i solved it using OsKitchen,lol.

af974 said:
.i solved it using OsKitchen,lol.
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Sorry...but usin' OSKitchen is still hard work in my opinion. Maybe others think similar to me, and please forgive me @airxtreme!
But still the best kitchen in my opinion is EVK....

Its not true,
OsKitchen compared to any other Kitchen is much more easy to use expecially for newbie users.
EVK it is much complete.
Which is the best between one and another its only a personal taste.
icke said:
Sorry...but usin' OSKitchen is still hard work in my opinion. Maybe others think similar to me, and please forgive me @airxtreme!
But still the best kitchen in my opinion is EVK....
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Kitchen
I can`t understand that someone say the os kitchen is to difficult
I work with these kitchen hours and days and no problems whatsoever and easys`t do use, if someone got problem to use this kitchen,live the finger from cooking

af974 said:
Which is the best between one and another its only a personal taste.
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And that's what i said!
For new's, maybe OSKitchen is easier to use...but still beta.

Speak is free and give opinions too...but please people dont start flaming about kitchens.
I mean about what in red....its not nice.
lumisab said:
I can`t understand that someone say the os kitchen is to difficult
I work with these kitchen hours and days and no problems whatsoever and easys`t do use, if someone got problem to use this kitchen,live the finger from cooking
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While EVK was building the ROM I checked the log it was generating. I saw all my packages. But when I used osKitchen it had problems with the *.dsm file in the packages and said that it's corrupt. I think it's the problem but I used package-creator-v2.7 to convert *.cab files to a package. So obviously the problem is with the package creator.
But on thing that's for sure is that newbies (like me) should stick to osKitchen.

FYI, Barin's OSBuilder has a .dsm autocorrection option.

Well, OsKitchen has its own package creator so all you need is to import your original rom and convert all your cabs again plus it has an auto mui converter,thats mean if that you have some 0410 mui's and you are cooking for 0409 oskitchen wiil rename all the mui for you.It worth a try.
mnvoh said:
While EVK was building the ROM I checked the log it was generating. I saw all my packages. But when I used osKitchen it had problems with the *.dsm file in the packages and said that it's corrupt. I think it's the problem but I used package-creator-v2.7 to convert *.cab files to a package. So obviously the problem is with the package creator.
But on thing that's for sure is that newbies (like me) should stick to osKitchen.
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Let's state this once for all: Ervius kitchen is basically a GUI to create _skip files that launches a giant batch file that does all the cooking and that needs to be customized for every device: if you created your own _skip files by hand and used a batch file to cook there would be virtually no difference. OsKitchen has a simple GUI by design but that doesn't mean that it isn't orders of magnitude more complete and advanced than ervius kitchen: it does everything from detecting all device/ROM informations without asking anything (the list of supported devices actually has nothing associated to them but the alternative names: no customized fixed, no customized settings, nothing) to cooking with all sorts of checks to prevent bricking or unbootable ROMs and even parsing all the files in the package: if I had proper relocation code (that I was waiting Da_G to write since he knows that stuff better than everybody else) the kitchen could already natively cook its own ROMs. I'm already using all the code I wrote to replace platformrebuilder to implement all sorts of cool stuff like complete validation of all package files and installing packages directly on the phone trough activesync (to avoid having to reflash any time you want to test something) as you can see on the alphas thread, things that on ervius kitchen, where cooking just means running a giant batch file, you could only dream of.
I hope that finally clears the minds of the people saying that ervius is more advanced or complete: it's not, it's just a simple batch file-based kitchen with an unnecessarily complex GUI. It may have some bundled tools that oskitchen doesn't include (like xipporterex, that while works on some NK.EXE wreaks havoc on unofficial native kernel and latest kernels) but having a dedicated button to launch a tool doesn't make a kitchen "more advanced" or "more complete".

No offence and I do appreciate and use your work, but aren't all kitchens just fancy GUI's around a set of batch files and same old imgfstools and platformrebuilder from yesteryear?

pkoper said:
No offence and I do appreciate and use your work, but aren't all kitchens just fancy GUI's around a set of batch files and same old imgfstools and platformrebuilder from yesteryear?
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Not really, I process all the files before feeding them to platformrebuilder hence the recmod/upx/tweaks/ordering/manila compression/etc without touching any of the original files. I also only use the newest tools available like libnb and osnbtool that the kitchen calls directly and checks the output to warn of any error and to get informations about the ROM format indeed it can import any proper BIN/NB/NBH file and cook it without even knowing what device they come from. The only original imgfstools I keep are nbmerge and nbsplit because I was waiting Da_G to finish his BuildNB function but osnbtool can probably replace both (nbsplit for sure with the -sp parameter).

@OP, it sounds like your package structure is wrong. Are the packages in EXT format (not OEM)? If they're in oem format, none of the files will be included. Just make the packages manually, it's a lot easier.

Can you please post the build log file?

pkoper said:
No offence and I do appreciate and use your work, but aren't all kitchens just fancy GUI's around a set of batch files and same old imgfstools and platformrebuilder from yesteryear?
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My kitchen (OSbuilder) uses it's own engine to process packages, build dsms, rebase modules, merge dsm and build ROM file. The only external tool i use is "TurboImgfs" by airxtreme.

Yes , when i wrote that EVK ,maybe, its more complete then OsKitchen i was referring to this, only some tools.
airxtreme said:
It may have some bundled tools that oskitchen doesn't include
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airxtreme said:
Let's state this once for all: Ervius kitchen is basically a GUI to create _skip files that launches a giant batch file that does all the cooking and that needs to be customized for every device: if you created your own _skip files by hand and used a batch file to cook there would be virtually no difference. OsKitchen has a simple GUI by design but that doesn't mean that it isn't orders of magnitude more complete and advanced than ervius kitchen: it does everything from detecting all device/ROM informations without asking anything (the list of supported devices actually has nothing associated to them but the alternative names: no customized fixed, no customized settings, nothing) to cooking with all sorts of checks to prevent bricking or unbootable ROMs and even parsing all the files in the package: if I had proper relocation code (that I was waiting Da_G to write since he knows that stuff better than everybody else) the kitchen could already natively cook its own ROMs. I'm already using all the code I wrote to replace platformrebuilder to implement all sorts of cool stuff like complete validation of all package files and installing packages directly on the phone trough activesync (to avoid having to reflash any time you want to test something) as you can see on the alphas thread, things that on ervius kitchen, where cooking just means running a giant batch file, you could only dream of.
I hope that finally clears the minds of the people saying that ervius is more advanced or complete: it's not, it's just a simple batch file-based kitchen with an unnecessarily complex GUI. It may have some bundled tools that oskitchen doesn't include (like xipporterex, that while works on some NK.EXE wreaks havoc on unofficial native kernel and latest kernels) but having a dedicated button to launch a tool doesn't make a kitchen "more advanced" or "more complete".
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Don't let them get you down man. Ervius's kitchen is a piece of **** in my opinion. The GUI blows and it crashes on the smallest thing that's not exactly right with a package. Did I mention the GUI is horrible ?
I will say it as well, erv's kitchen is NOTHING but a glorified GUI for platformrebuilder which is the real workhorse.
p.s. I made my own kitchen GUI, based on platformrebuilder as well. Mine's designed to cook for 12 devices at a time though... so I can't exactly share it. PM me if you'd like the details necesssary to make Samsung Omnia 2 ROMs with prb though, it seems nobody else seems to know what the "secret" is... I just think they didn't try hard enough. lol If anything, you can add 4 more devices to your already impressive collection of supported devices