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[IDEA] Multidevice kitchen

I've been thinking lately... I've been thinking of creating a new multidevice kitchen. The kitchen would support every current device, be based on the newest version of Bepe's kitchen or maybe the visual kitchen. It would add certain things like:
Automatically insert the cecompr.dll needed for both LZX and XPR compressions
Automatically hex edit the imgfs.bin during the cooking process to allow to LZX compression
It would come with an empty payload file for every device
It would support multiple languages and come with language packs
It would use the standard layout of bepe's kitchen/the visual kitchen so it would be easy to also keep build packages that would apply to every kitchen.
If I could get enough cooks involved from other devices, we could even have base STRIPED OEMs from every device that people can easily download.
We can make it automatically be able to dump any ROM and easily extract its XIP or SYS and import them into the kitchen or make the files into a package compatible with the kitchen that people could upload for everyone else to use. (Easier to spread new builds leaked by other people.)
I need more ideas as to what we could make this kitchen do.
I also need to know if any cooks would be willing to help out as it would be a MASSIVE project.
I would start it as soon as I'm done with two ROMs that I'm currently working for and a few kitchen that I'm modding for some people for LZX/XPR multicompression.

No comments, yet.
I'm working with ervius to add the LZX compression to the kitchen itself.
If no one helps, then it's going to be a little hard to do since I will have to download the default ROM for each and every device and then strip down the OEM. Then create bigROM packages to release as well. And then I can't test it since I don't have every device, so it's going to be a little bit of a slow process.
What I will end up doing will be more like just taking ervius kitchen, add a few things here and there and make all the packages and builds and whatnot available. Or at the least create a thread where people can post packages left and right. A repository of sorts. (A lot like the PPCgeeks's BuildOS but compatible with every device and using ervius awesome kitchen.)

Sounds like what Anchilus had one time! I think it was named as hypercore. But great idea though. I am not an expert cook or programmer, but I do cook ROM for myself sometime. My biggest thing is porting the ROM, doesnt matter what tutorial I read, I just dont get it LOL

Take a look in the raphael forums. Already done.

Will Help You
Ivan,
You know that I am willing to do anything I can to help you. Problem is that we have the same devices and you are my mentor so I am not sure how much help I would be, but whatever you need, you name it and I will do my best to help you out however I can.

GSLEON3 said:
Take a look in the raphael forums. Already done.
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I looked. I couldn't find a multidevice kitchen...

GSLEON3 said:
Take a look in the raphael forums. Already done.
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I think you mean this? http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=505800
Would be a great idea one kitchen for all devices, although I think the extra devices should be added in the form of plug-in, because nobody likes to dl a 20 GB kitchen . I would help but I'm not that great at dumping but especially not with the still changing structure of ervius visual bepe's kitchen. Is there a wiki or tutorial somewhere that properly explains where to put which folders? 12

Yes, it wouldn't include all the devices at once. The aim of the project is to provide plugin packages for every device. A standard repository of oem packages (divided by QVGA, VGA, WVGA, etc), a standard repository of SYS and XIP builds, and a standard set of stripped down OEMs from different devices. Everything would be downloaded seperately. It's a huge project, that's why I would need lots of help.
EDIT: Just read that link. Kind of like that, but for multiple devices. Including language packs and all.

ivanmmj said:
Yes, it wouldn't include all the devices at once. The aim of the project is to provide plugin packages for every device. A standard repository of oem packages (divided by QVGA, VGA, WVGA, etc), a standard repository of SYS and XIP builds, and a standard set of stripped down OEMs from different devices. Everything would be downloaded seperately. It's a huge project, that's why I would need lots of help.
EDIT: Just read that link. Kind of like that, but for multiple devices. Including language packs and all.
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To get the attention of the cooks I think you should start sending email to the chefs and maybe a couple of mods too. I don't think it should be much of a problem on the raph forum, we are blessed with kind and sharing chefs, 12

i would love to help out with the kitchen.
although, i dont like bepe's way of cooking as much as the old way
multi-device sounds great, like in the days of hypercore

mbarvian said:
i would love to help out with the kitchen.
although, i dont like bepe's way of cooking as much as the old way
multi-device sounds great, like in the days of hypercore
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You can use my kitchen (based on visual kitchen) to add more devices but someone should develop a kind of frontend app to have ability to download only desired build, device OEMs, VGA/QVGA etc (manual selection will be a nightmare for normal users) . I can help in building such a kitchen but I can't write app, sorry

ivanmmj said:
Yes, it wouldn't include all the devices at once. The aim of the project is to provide plugin packages for every device. A standard repository of oem packages (divided by QVGA, VGA, WVGA, etc), a standard repository of SYS and XIP builds, and a standard set of stripped down OEMs from different devices. Everything would be downloaded seperately. It's a huge project, that's why I would need lots of help.
EDIT: Just read that link. Kind of like that, but for multiple devices. Including language packs and all.
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qsqa said:
You can use my kitchen (based on visual kitchen) to add more devices but someone should develop a kind of frontend app to have ability to download only desired build, device OEMs, VGA/QVGA etc (manual selection will be a nightmare for normal users) . I can help in building such a kitchen but I can't write app, sorry
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You mean like an kitchen appstore or a bat to move everything into the right folders? 12

That's a great idea. An app that automatically downloads the needed files just for your device type of thing... I'm not a programmer, though.
I want this to also have language packs that modify the language of the ROM.
Let this be the kitchen to rule all kitchens.

ivanmmj said:
That's a great idea. An app that automatically downloads the needed files just for your device type of thing... I'm not a programmer, though.
I want this to also have language packs that modify the language of the ROM.
Let this be the kitchen to rule all kitchens.
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i agree, this would be a very great idea. I think ppcgeeks has something similar with their BuildOS kitchen
p.s. ivan, while you're here, could you answer this question for me?
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Replace the FIRST one and FIRST ONE ONLY with "LZX". Save the file, close the hex editor. Let your kitchen do it's thing.
That's it.
http://www.4shared.com/file/101370353/b7650aff/Compression.html
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do we need to do this step on the "mythical" cecompr.dll?
thanks

mbarvian said:
i agree, this would be a very great idea. I think ppcgeeks has something similar with their BuildOS kitchen
p.s. ivan, while you're here, could you answer this question for me?
do we need to do this step on the "mythical" cecompr.dll?
thanks
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Already answered there.
But,
Yes.
The cecompr.dll is what tells the XIP how to read the LZX compressed imgfs.bin. The hex editing is what tells the kitchen tools to write the imgfs.bin in LZX compression.
I worked with evirus and now his kitchen has an option for LZX compression. It will do everything automatically. ^_^

That's a great idea. Not sure it could work on my device (ks20) as bepe's kitchen crashes on my nk.exe so I have to build xip part the old way (using xipport). Anyways, if you need french 96dpi resources, I can give you mine.
And for this project, instead of a special software to download packages, why not using a svn repository ?

Although a SVN repository would be awesome, I wonder if there would be a legal problem just like there was with the XDA FTP server used to host ROMs and stuff for building ROMs?

Yes, that's possible... perhaps we should ask a moderator, what was the exact reason it was removed (because after all, everything is still present on this forum, it's just not grouped in 1 place, but I think legal issues remain).
I also know that somewhere on the web, there is a svn server for winmo builds (I had once a wm build that had .svn folders).

Ivan, You can use my site to host your files, repositories, and current roms. I can alot you as much space as needed and even a .info domain name if you like. It will be hosted on the the same host as mycw.info (My gf's site for our chickens and stuff.) PM me or just respond on this post.

DestructDez1 said:
Ivan, You can use my site to host your files, repositories, and current roms. I can alot you as much space as needed and even a .info domain name if you like. It will be hosted on the the same host as mycw.info (My gf's site for our chickens and stuff.) PM me or just respond on this post.
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PM sent. Thank you!!

Kitchen Repository

Well, I guess I will contribute with something...
There are way too many kitchens out there (all scattered in the different device forums). Now, since this is "Chef Central", I figured that we needed the kitchens for the Chefs to cook. Without further ado, I present you with... the kitchens.
[highlight]PPCKitchen.org:[/highlight]
Easy to use for the beginner...
http://www.ppckitchen.org
[highlight]Ivanmmj SuperJust Kitchen (thanks +QuePPC and kokotas):[/highlight]
Multi-Device Kitchen
http://justkitchen.info/main/index.php
[highlight]osKitchen:[/highlight]
New kitchen based on bepe's work (thanks mwalt2)
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=628948
[highlight]Ervius Visual Kitchen (EVK)thanks mwalt2)[/highlight]
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=469420
[highlight]Wallaby (Peter Poelman):[/highlight]
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=219037
[highlight]Blue Angel:[/highlight]
Latest: 28230 by sun_dream
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=428030
Swampy395 Porting Kitchen
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=587446&highlight=porting
[highlight]Himalaya:[/highlight]
Latest: 28230 by sun_dream
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=519129
[highlight]Wizard:[/highlight]
Not really a single kitchen but xda2_haseeb made a nice guide with links to some kitchens for the Wizard.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=501941
[highlight]Universal: (thanks orb3000)[/highlight]
ROM Kitchen v2.0 by Tomal: Next generation Kitchen for Universal
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=476544
[highlight]Raphael:[/highlight]
Resources and kitchens lumped together by hilaireg
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=582134
[highlight]Polaris:[/highlight]
Not really a single kitchen but cruiserrr made a nice guide with links to some kitchens for the Polaris.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=648171
Now, I am not going to scan the whole site for kitchens, so this is where we all have to pitch in. I know I am missing a few of the multi-device kitchens, but if we all contribute with kitchens for different devices, we can have a nice little resource for many new aspiring chefs...
Let's get cookin'!

Opinions
I decided to make post #2 as an Opinions Page. I will link the posts from each and every one of you that talks good or bad about a kitchen over here.
[highlight]Visual Kitchen[/highlight]
player911
[highlight]Polaris Chef Corner[/highlight]
cruiserrr

One more for the road...

NRGZ28 said:
I think we'll need to neatly catergorize these kitchen collections later on. Maybe we'll them all in the first post of this thread, or we can create another one.
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I can update the first post as needed. I actually left two more posts after that just in case I run into space issues. I am thinking, one or two posts for device specific kitchens and one for generic kitchens. What do you think?

dXsL said:
excellent initiative, tnx!
wouldn't mind more pro's/con's per kitchen but also realize that is subject to personal experience and/or (strong) opinion
so perhaps only mention the pro's?
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+1 on this.
PRO's/CON's can be easily worded such that it isn't considered a personal attack.
I would rather know about the CON's and how to work-around them than spend hours in trial-and-error. If a member decides to select a certain kitchen, at least they know what they are "getting into".
M2C's Worth,
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@egzthunder1:
BTW; if you need extra empty posts near the top of your thread, let me or another moderator know and we'll make it happen.

hilaireg said:
+1 on this.
PRO's/CON's can be easily worded such that it isn't considered a personal attack.
I would rather know about the CON's and how to work-around them than spend hours in trial-and-error. If a member decides to select a certain kitchen, at least they know what they are "getting into".
M2C's Worth,
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@egzthunder1:
BTW; if you need extra empty posts near the top of your thread, let me or another moderator know and we'll make it happen.
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Thanks hilaireg, I might have to bother you regarding the extra posts if this grows as much as I fear it will .
As far as the pro/cons... well, we could do this in such a way that only people who have used the kitchens in question can post them in this thread, so they can give their points of view. I personally have had time to play with 3 of the kitchens that I have posted and used a few tools of another one, but I guess I can add this to the first post and you guys let me know what you think:
"If you are going to post a kitchen in this thread, please be kind enough to give your opinions on it (likes, dislikes, hard to use, buggy, best kitchen ever... well, you know what I mean). This way, new coming chefs will not have to go through the pain of trial and error"

egzthunder1 said:
Thanks hilaireg, I might have to bother you regarding the extra posts if this grows as much as I fear it will .
As far as the pro/cons... well, we could do this in such a way that only people who have used the kitchens in question can post them in this thread, so they can give their points of view. I personally have had time to play with 3 of the kitchens that I have posted and used a few tools of another one, but I guess I can add this to the first post and you guys let me know what you think:
"If you are going to post a kitchen in this thread, please be kind enough to give your opinions on it (likes, dislikes, hard to use, buggy, best kitchen ever... well, you know what I mean). This way, new coming chefs will not have to go through the pain of trial and error"
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No worries ... let me know once you decide on the format for this thread. Have a look at this thread; might give you some ideas of what could be done for this:
Sous-Chef's Kitchen Utensils & Appliances Review
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=651026

I use Visual Kitchen
I chose visual kitchen because that was what Da_G used and started me out on. Here are my thoughts:
_________PRO_________
- GUI interface to visually select/deselect packages
- Expandable with Programmable Extra Buttons to ease sorting and cooking stuff
- Allows users to select multiple builds, Lanuages, packages, etc using drop down boxes
- Save/Load configurations and settings
- Robust, Organized and Complete
_________CON_________
- File structure has to be intact or it will fail
- Have to know the building procedure to make sure custom files aren't overwritten
- Packages are in folders, so finding a specific file can be tedious
- Can be overwhelming and confusing to get it setup initially from scratch
I would recommend using this kitchen as it pretty nice. Now of course I say that without using any other kitchen to compare it to... but it does everything I need thus no need to look elsewhere.
_________TIPS_________
EXT folder = Packages (Games/HTC Apps/HTC Dialer/Etc). Additional apps outside of stock MS stuff
OEM folder = Phone specific stuff, OEM customizations, tweaks (usually left alone)
ROM folder = Basic building blocks for WM builds. Has basic device and WM drivers (MSXipKernel updated when SYS gets updated)
SYS folder = WM Build. Contains all the stuff that is stock MS products (updated to change to newer builds)
- Starting out as a new chef... I would suggest that you find a Fully working kitchen designed for your device that is fairly new and updated. Once you can create a working rom, you can then slowly start to expand it by adding more packages and features.
- Don't add too much at once. If you do, and it fails... you'll have to troubleshoot what you added and that can be tedious. It helps to add new packages in groups of 5... so you can test specific parts of the rom before continuing. You'll be surprised that 1 screwed up file can keep your kitchen from completing the building process. Keep that in mind.
- The "EXT" folder is optional and gets updated the most. OEM, ROM, and SYS folders are the only folders really required. Knowing this can allow you to build a very very basic stock Windows build designed for your device. If you have any problems building or flashing, try disabling all of the packages in the EXT folder. If your very very very basic rom still doesn't work... then your "base" kitchen is screwed up. This can be harder to fix.
- Make frequent backups of your "Base" kitchen in the event you screwed something up. I usually will remove the EXT folder and ZIP up the rest in an archive on a memory stick. I update my backup archives after a successful upgrade/edit/tweak of the "base".

player911 said:
I use Visual Kitchen
I chose visual kitchen because that was what Da_G used and started me out on. Here are my thoughts:
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Updated post #2. Thanks player911!

Hi man!
I think you could add vistang's multidevice kitchen too :
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=573778
I'm not the right person for a review, but I'm sure one of the guys who used it will be up to the task
Best Regards!

Hi, if you check the link in my signature (Polaris chef corner) you will find quite a few polaris specific kitchens

cruiserrr said:
Hi, if you check the link in my signature (Polaris chef corner) you will find quite a few polaris specific kitchens
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Thanks cruiserrr for the links. I updated the first post.
Can you give us some insights (in the format in the first page) of pros/cons for some of these kitchens? I don't have a Polaris, so I cannot write any comments about them. Thanks.

i dont have the link but there is a Superjust kitchen for sooo much devices in the net...

+ Que PPC said:
i dont have the link but there is a Superjust kitchen for sooo much devices in the net...
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Is that the name of the kitchen?

egzthunder1 said:
Is that the name of the kitchen?
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Here is the link : ivanmmj's SuperJustKitchen
(Supported devices : Artemis , Elfin , Herald , Hermes , Opal)
Regards!

kokotas said:
Here is the link : ivanmmj's SuperJustKitchen
(Supported devices : Artemis , Elfin , Herald , Hermes , Opal)
Regards!
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Thanks for the link. I will update the first post. Any pros/cons opinions about this?

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Thanks for the link. I will update the first post. Any pros/cons opinions about this?
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Well it is a kitchen based on OsKitchen by OndraSter&airxtreme!
ps:check post #10 too

egzthunder1 said:
Thanks cruiserrr for the links. I updated the first post.
Can you give us some insights (in the format in the first page) of pros/cons for some of these kitchens? I don't have a Polaris, so I cannot write any comments about them. Thanks.
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Well, I am not a seasoned cooker but I have updated the polaris chef corner 1st post with my view of each kitchen. Please feel free to take the text if you find it interesting. Most of polaris kitchen's are 26016 EVK kitchens with old kernel, I guess based on gullum's kitchen the first one the share the polaris kitchen for wm6.5. Most of them are based on mega packages. There is one from amenatis based on leo packages but is not 100% completed in english since it is a french kitchen (however, is the one I used as the basis).
For the rest, there are a few other kitchens like vistangs but it seems ondraster kitchen is growing each day. The best one for me is TomAngel's Ondraster kitchen: like any Ondraster's kitchen it has an easy set up of splashscreen and this kinds of things and allows you to cook in several languages at a time. It also has a nice documentation of packages. Additionally TomAngel included a 6.5 native kernel that we are currently testing a few cookers in Polaris but that seems to work and my end with our recmodding hobby.
I personally like better EVK UI but I must say ondraster is also a good solution (and I have "stolen" the kernel from there). I would be glad to share my kitchen I use my own method of cooking shortcuts and tweaks with cmd and mortscript scripts both in the ppc and the pc, so my packages have no app.dat and no png and very few reg files.

cruiserrr said:
Well, I am not a seasoned cooker but I have updated the polaris chef corner 1st post with my view of each kitchen. Please feel free to take the text if you find it interesting. Most of polaris kitchen's are 26016 EVK kitchens with old kernel, I guess based on gullum's kitchen the first one the share the polaris kitchen for wm6.5. Most of them are based on mega packages. There is one from amenatis based on leo packages but is not 100% completed in english since it is a french kitchen (however, is the one I used as the basis).
For the rest, there are a few other kitchens like vistangs but it seems ondraster kitchen is growing each day. The best one for me is TomAngel's Ondraster kitchen: like any Ondraster's kitchen it has an easy set up of splashscreen and this kinds of things and allows you to cook in several languages at a time. It also has a nice documentation of packages. Additionally TomAngel included a 6.5 native kernel that we are currently testing a few cookers in Polaris but that seems to work and my end with our recmodding hobby.
I personally like better EVK UI but I must say ondraster is also a good solution (and I have "stolen" the kernel from there). I would be glad to share my kitchen I use my own method of cooking shortcuts and tweaks with cmd and mortscript scripts both in the ppc and the pc, so my packages have no app.dat and no png and very few reg files.
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I am putting your review with the others (not that it follows the format that I want, but it is good enough for me )

egzthunder1 said:
I am putting your review with the others (not that it follows the format that I want, but it is good enough for me )
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Hi, I think it is interesting to share: I can confirm that cooking for Polaris with the kernel shared by TomAngel requires not any recmodding at all !!!
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showpost.php?p=6135182&postcount=27
Do not know if it works for other devices with old kernel, To try import in your kitchen and tell the machine is true kernel

[SOLVED] Cooking WM 6.5.5 Elfin Kitchen ... Need Some Help

Hey first of all i only start wid my problems.
I just cooked a WM6.5.5 Rom for Elfin and these are the problems i am facing.
OEM drivers 3.14 for Elfin.
-->i know that i will get the oem drivers by dumping the latest stock rom. but other elfin cooks are cooking with oem driver 3.14 which is not there in any stock rom. i am able to find 3.07 only. So some one please give me the link to OEM driver 3.14
When i add EXT packages like htc audio manager, album, its getting cooked but is not showing in phone.
how to add ExtRom
how to add SDAutorun application in my rom. i have the executable file but i dont know how to cook it in my rom
I hope i will get answers for all these question soon.
thank you
-Ankush

onlyankush_s said:
Hey first of all i only start wid my problems.
i just cooked a WM6.5.5 Rom for Elfin and these are the problems i am facing.
[1]Touch Screen is not functioning properly, so what should i do so that it works properly & how.
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[2]From where i can get latest htc camera, audio manager, album, photo canvas...etc so that i can include them in my rom.
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[3]From where i can get OEM Drivers 3.14 for Elfin
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[4]How can i change which time zone, date and time appears when phone starts after flashing my Rom.
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[5]Navigation Buttons along with Action button have stop working????
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[6]My phone is lagging a lot and gets stuck, what should i do?
I hope i will get answers for all these question soon.
thank you
-Ankush
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1.- touchscreen is not functioning properly???? please be more specific tell us what happend exactly to your tocuh screen.
2.- from where???? you can get the latest pkgs from the XDA developers.. using the search option like.... "latest camera QVGA"
3.- OEM Drivers??? for elfin??? you can get them dumping a stock rom this is basic from setting the kitchen i told you that your OEM drivers folder is poor dunno why.
4.- This is a good question for begginers
5.-Action button stops working??? you need to be specific cause some OLD wm6 (your dumped base rom) apps are incompatible with 6.5
6.- the rom is laghing a lot... well that is just experience
you will se when you add and delte old things will see that the rom will be better.
You know.... there is no need to make this huge thread...
cause the answers are there... you all new chefs needs to search as we did in our noobnest times

+ Que PPC said:
1.- touchscreen is not functioning properly???? please be more specific tell us what happend exactly to your tocuh screen.
2.- from where???? you can get the latest pkgs from the XDA developers.. using the search option like.... "latest camera QVGA"
3.- OEM Drivers??? for elfin??? you can get them dumping a stock rom this is basic from setting the kitchen i told you that your OEM drivers folder is poor dunno why.
4.- This is a good question for begginers
5.-Action button stops working??? you need to be specific cause some OLD wm6 (your dumped base rom) apps are incompatible with 6.5
6.- the rom is laghing a lot... well that is just experience
you will se when you add and delte old things will see that the rom will be better.
You know.... there is no need to make this huge thread...
cause the answers are there... you all new chefs needs to search as we did in our noobnest times
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i asked from where i can get latest pkgs and i am asking for pkgs that works in elfin
i know that i will get the oem drivers by dumping a stock rom. but other elfin cooks are cooking with with oem driver 3.14 which is not there in stock rom.

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General conscensus was to collapse the thread. I have adjusted the title to be more indicative of the help required.
Ankush, which kitchen are you using to cook your ROM - Ervius, OnDraster, etc.?
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touchscreen is not functioning properly???? Please be more specific tell us what happend exactly to your touch screen.
Did you omit any drivers or registry entries in OEM? Reads like you may have or there may be a compatibility issue ... see next response.
From where???? you can get the latest pkgs from the XDA developers.. using the search option like.... "latest camera QVGA"
Some camera package may not be compatible with the device or the version of OEM drivers. See next response.
OEM Drivers??? for elfin??? you can get them dumping a stock rom this is basic from setting the kitchen i told you that your OEM drivers folder is poor dunno why.
To elaborate; many chefs will track down an original ("official") HTC release ROM and extract it using a kitchen. They will then take this kitchen, make a copy of it for archive purposes, and start altering the kitchen.
Have a look at the Shipped ROM thread to see if you can locate the drivers you mention below.
This is a good question for begginers
There's a few thread on this already; have a look at the Tips And Tricks from Mr. Makk.
Action button stops working??? you need to be specific cause some OLD wm6 (your dumped base rom) apps are incompatible with 6.5
As above, it likely a driver issue. Also note that some device (ex: AT&T Fuze) have a proprietary KEYBOARD.DLL compiled specifically for the device. This may result in certain buttons not functioning with newer SYS and/or drivers from a similar device that doesn't have the same buttons.
The rom is laghing a lot... well that is just experience. you will se when you add and delte old things will see that the rom will be better.
You may need to increase the PagePool size. You'll need to some searching as different devices need different sizes - it's specific to RAM and processor.
HTH,

new questions look at the first post.....;

onlyankush_s said:
Hey first of all i only start wid my problems.
I just cooked a WM6.5.5 Rom for Elfin and these are the problems i am facing.
OEM drivers 3.14 for Elfin.
-->i know that i will get the oem drivers by dumping the latest stock rom. but other elfin cooks are cooking with oem driver 3.14 which is not there in any stock rom. i am able to find 3.07 only. So some one please give me the link to OEM driver 3.14
When i add EXT packages like htc audio manager, album, its getting cooked but is not showing in phone.
how to add ExtRom
how to add SDAutorun application in my rom. i have the executable file but i dont know how to cook it in my rom
I hope i will get answers for all these question soon.
thank you
-Ankush
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mmm interesting
1.- 3.14 maybe or maybe not is a hybrid... some are 3.07 and some are other ported OEM folders to ELFIN... i know that some of them works ok with elfin, like.... mmmm OPAL OEM drivers (some of them not all)
2 & 3.- As you may red on the tutorial I said that the EXT pkgs must have categorized.. something like
EXT
-ELFIN
--23658
--COMMON
---Conectivity
----Commanager_2.0_HTC_Mega
----Connection Setup_3.2_Opal
---Images
----OS images
----Red theme 6.5.X
----Red theme 6.5
---Reg tweaks
----Performance
----Asharsunny_touchresponse
----Regional_settings
be sure your new added EXT PKGS applications are well categorized
Remember too.. that every EXT pkg needs or sometings has as a default the files app.dat and app.reg... I will update the tutorial for other langs to explain this two files function for noobs, but if you search you can have many tutorials lost there in the forums by amesh... hilaireg... and many awsome members.
5.- the SDautorun is an enhaced function into the normal or RUNCC app... the SD autorun allows you to install apps onfirst boot via cab in your storage card...
The SD autorun needs a line in the config.txt that must be in the normalOEM pkg for autorun, mmmm something like...
LOCK:Enabled
EXEC:\Windows\SetHSDPA.exe /Enable
CAB: \Windows\Certs.cab
CAB: \Windows\SMSFIX.cab
CAB: \Windows\btfix.cab
Hide:Enabled
LOCKisabled
EXEC:\Windows\SDAutoRun.exe
THIS

@onlyankush_s
Not to offend you but most of the questions you are asking here are already answered on the board.
Cooking a rom is asking some action from you too. A lot of reading, trying, flashing, tweaking etc.
About the 3.14 base you are talking about you could try asking the people who are cooking with it.
I don't think Chef Central is created to dump questions but it's a place to help each other out if you realy don't know what to do anymore.
Just my 2 cents and good luck with cooking.
Leo

Laurentius26 said:
@onlyankush_s
Not to offend you but most of the questions you are asking here are already answered on the board.
Cooking a rom is asking some action from you too. A lot of reading, trying, flashing, tweaking etc.
About the 3.14 base you are talking about you could try asking the people who are cooking with it.
I don't think Chef Central is created to dump questions but it's a place to help each other out if you realy don't know what to do anymore.
Just my 2 cents and good luck with cooking.
Leo
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+1...i agree with you completely...search, flash, and read...it will take many trial and error before you find the correct combo!

Laurentius26 said:
@onlyankush_s
Not to offend you but most of the questions you are asking here are already answered on the board.
Cooking a rom is asking some action from you too. A lot of reading, trying, flashing, tweaking etc.
About the 3.14 base you are talking about you could try asking the people who are cooking with it.
I don't think Chef Central is created to dump questions but it's a place to help each other out if you realy don't know what to do anymore.
Just my 2 cents and good luck with cooking.
Leo
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No offence but Ya i know that, and i am not a fool that i will simply ask questions and not search it before.
About OEM3.14 drivers, i ask many cooks i dont want to name them but it seems one of them lost it, one of them modified it in his kitchen and some of them are not replying. Thats why i asked it over here.
And about SDAutorun, i saw the tutorial but nowhere it is mentioned that i have to add it in oem pkgs and edit config.txt
which i know now as our fellow member +Que PPC told it to me.

+ Que PPC said:
mmm interesting
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but i categorized ext only then also but other applications which i am trying by as EXT pkgs like g-alarm, regedit, arkswitch are working!!!!
hey thanks for the sdautorun tut i will work on it.

Sorry friend but it's obvious to me you didn't read at all.
If you ask questions why Album and Audiomanager not showing that's just a simple initflash edit which you can find in the sticky here at Chef Central.
And about Sdautorun offcourse that is explained on the board as well a simple search will give you answers.
http://www.google.com/cse?cx=partner-pub-2900107662879704:fs7umqefhnf&ie=ISO-8859-1&q=sdautorun
onlyankush_s said:
No offence but Ya i know that, and i am not a fool that i will simply ask questions and not search it before.
About OEM3.14 drivers, i ask many cooks i dont want to name them but it seems one of them lost it, one of them modified it in his kitchen and some of them are not replying. Thats why i asked it over here.
And about SDAutorun, i saw the tutorial but nowhere it is mentioned that i have to add it in oem pkgs and edit config.txt
which i know now as our fellow member +Que PPC told it to me.
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onlyankush_s said:
Hey first of all i only start wid my problems.
I just cooked a WM6.5.5 Rom for Elfin and these are the problems i am facing.
When i add EXT packages like htc audio manager, album, its getting cooked but is not showing in phone.
-Ankush
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@Ankush:
The original intention of Chef Central was to help beginner/aspiring chefs who felt overwhelmed by the task of chef'ing their own kitchen.
That said, most seasoned chefs have no issues providing guidance and assistance providing of course, that you have have taken the time to search the forum. There is a wealth of information available and often times, there is a thread that already provides insight into a particular problem that you may be experiencing.
Most seasoned chefs started off by cooking a ROM for their device using what was officially released by HTC. For example, I first started off with WM6.1 for my Raphael (as that is what was shipped by HTC) using Ervius PkgToolsBuildOS. When I was comfortable with this, I moved to Ervius Visual Kitchen; and then proceeded to inject WM 6.5.x to the kitchen. You have no idea how many times I re-read the Porting Tutorial - a lot!
It is important to provide as much detail as you can when posting about a problem you are experiencing. I also suggest contacting some of your fellow Elfin chefs as I am certain they would be more than happy to help as well - keep in mind that this is a hobby for most folks and that questions may go unanswered for a long time. Additionally, manufacturers, vendors, and operators aren't really keen on what we do so other than the tutorials and information you find on forums such as these ... you're going to have to learn by trial-and-error.
Lastly, as I believe that threads in Chef Central should remain open to help on an ongoing basis, I also feel that it is the responsibility of the OP to eventually mark their thread as [SOLVED] ... hence my initial recommendation that each problem be a single thread. I also feel that you, as an aspiring chef, must take the time to research before posting about an issue you are having.
Regards,

hilaireg said:
@Ankush:
The original intention of Chef Central was to help beginner/aspiring chefs who felt overwhelmed by the task of chef'ing their own kitchen.
That said, most seasoned chefs have no issues providing guidance and assistance providing of course, that you have have taken the time to search the forum. There is a wealth of information available and often times, there is a thread that already provides insight into a particular problem that you may be experiencing.
Most seasoned chefs started off by cooking a ROM for their device using what was officially released by HTC. For example, I first started off with WM6.1 for my Raphael (as that is what was shipped by HTC) using Ervius PkgToolsBuildOS. When I was comfortable with this, I moved to Ervius Visual Kitchen; and then proceeded to inject WM 6.5.x to the kitchen. You have no idea how many times I re-read the Porting Tutorial - a lot!
It is important to provide as much detail as you can when posting about a problem you are experiencing. I also suggest contacting some of your fellow Elfin chefs as I am certain they would be more than happy to help as well - keep in mind that this is a hobby for most folks and that questions may go unanswered for a long time. Additionally, manufacturers, vendors, and operators aren't really keen on what we do so other than the tutorials and information you find on forums such as these ... you're going to have to learn by trial-and-error.
Lastly, as I believe that threads in Chef Central should remain open to help on an ongoing basis, I also feel that it is the responsibility of the OP to eventually mark their thread as [SOLVED] ... hence my initial recommendation that each problem be a single thread. I also feel that you, as an aspiring chef, must take the time to research before posting about an issue you are having.
Regards,
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okay i got it. thank you everyone.

iam trying to cook my own wm6.5.3 23569 rom for elfin
evry thing is good but when i try to flash the rom it bootup but
it stop at window mobile screen
what to do plzzzz help me

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OEM drivers 3.14 for Elfin.
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The 3.14 OEMDrvers for Elfin comes from RUU_Elfin_Dopod_CHS_3.14.706.02_4.1.13.71_03.34.90_BLUE_Ship.exe.

[REQ] Oskitchen Help

I am going to give chef'in a try and as I have never done it before I would ask you to be patient with me.
I have the HTC Leo with Radio 2.10.50 and HSPL installed.
Im using oskitchen and so far I have updated a Stock rom to 6.5.5. Nothing difficult there I hear you say ! But hey, its my first working ROM.
Now I have 2 questions that I hope you can help me with.
Q1. When I flashed the ROM to my phone all worked as you would expect apart from the main screen looked like it had dropped down about 10 pixels. Top and bottom bars looked OK but the middle looked wrong (Screen coming if needed)
Q2. Can someone instruct me on how to set the default wallpaper from oskitchen ?
I have an image called HTC_BG.png and I would like to cook it into the ROM as the default wallpaper.
Ive looked on the forums for help with these questions but I am unable to find them.
Any help / links would be helpfull
Once I have this info, I will proceed to cook my ROM and eventually post the results on the forums along with a complete tutorial as I go along, for those who are looking for similar info.

I have any problems with the buttons and the prefrence folders.
I have create a clip how can you see this problem.
h**p://youtube.com/watch?v=qmDQOzCIWu8
I hope i exist a fix, or what are the right kitchen for the Leo??

BoTTeR1337 said:
I have any problems with the buttons and the prefrence folders.
I have create a clip how can you see this problem.
h**p://youtube.com/watch?v=qmDQOzCIWu8
I hope i exist a fix, or what are the right kitchen for the Leo??
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From what I know dumping and rebuilding a Leo ROM works correctly on both oskitchen 1.30v3 and 1.31beta3 so you probably changed something that broke that stuff. Always try if a clean dumped ROM rebuilds fine before doing changes that may break it.

Okay... I think im not so Stupid to do this.
I go this way:
1. I Install (extract) OS Kitchen on a folder into my Harddrive (C:/OS)
2. Then i Load the original Rom, extract this to get the RUU_Signed_0407.nbh
3.I Start OSKitchen and klick on Import-> Import a new ROM file.
4. I Select my Model, HTC Leo (HD2) and type the pfad of the RUU_Signed_0407.nbh and go to next (Waiting a minute)
5. I klick on start bulding, and os kitchen go throte without errors..
I Flash the Rom...
And the Taps didn't work. I Have a Windows XP OS and the OS Kitchen Version is 1.31.alpha4

BoTTeR1337 said:
Okay... I think im not so Stupid to do this.
I go this way:
1. I Install (extract) OS Kitchen on a folder into my Harddrive (C:/OS)
2. Then i Load the original Rom, extract this to get the RUU_Signed_0407.nbh
3.I Start OSKitchen and klick on Import-> Import a new ROM file.
4. I Select my Model, HTC Leo (HD2) and type the pfad of the RUU_Signed_0407.nbh and go to next (Waiting a minute)
5. I klick on start bulding, and os kitchen go throte without errors..
I Flash the Rom...
And the Taps didn't work. I Have a Windows XP OS and the OS Kitchen Version is 1.31.alpha4
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Update to 1.31beta3 because anything before the beta1 had issues with HD2

like Shaddex I am looking into creating ROM's from scratch (for HD2 Leo also!), first for personally use and maybe for general if I can get a ROM to look nice.
My question is, is there a kitchen which work's best for the HD2? Or are all basically generic and just "cook" in different ways?
Sorry to hijack your post Shaddex I hope you get an answer soon, wish I could help

And back on topic
Ok. I extracted Oskitch again, added "RUU_Leo_HKCSL_WWE_1.72.831.1_Radio_CRC_Signed_15.32.50.07U_2.07.51.22_2_Ship"
as the base ROM.
Next installed the "24619_MSXIPKernel_SYS_QVGA_WQVGA_HVGA_VGA_WVGA_0409" so I can use the latest build.
Thats all I did.
No extra EXT packages, Just cooked the ROM and below is what I get.
Anyone shed any light ?

5haddex said:
And back on topic
Ok. I extracted Oskitch again, added "RUU_Leo_HKCSL_WWE_1.72.831.1_Radio_CRC_Signed_15.32.50.07U_2.07.51.22_2_Ship"
as the base ROM.
Next installed the "24619_MSXIPKernel_SYS_QVGA_WQVGA_HVGA_VGA_WVGA_0409" so I can use the latest build.
Thats all I did.
No extra EXT packages, Just cooked the ROM and below is what I get.
Anyone shed any light ?
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The 6.5.3 windows mobile builds have the top and bottom bar of different sizes while Manila is probably calibrated for the WM6.5 bars (indeed there's empty space at the top and overlap at the bottom). There is probably something else you have to do to fix manila after changing the windows mobile build but I'm pretty sure it's not a kitchen problem I've had several people reporting the Leo ROMs dump and build fine with the 1.31 betas.

Is anyone willing to assist me on getting a Stock HD2 rom and upgrading it to 6.5.x without the problems I am seeing ?

5haddex said:
Is anyone willing to assist me on getting a Stock HD2 rom and upgrading it to 6.5.x without the problems I am seeing ?
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Could you post a screenshot of your problem, and if you upload your background, i will use it to replace the one in HTC Black.TSK (You need OCP CE CAB Manager)

I have posted a screenie of the problem and someone says its because manila is not the correct version for the 6.5.5 im using.
Dont suppose you have a 6.5.5 stock rom ???

So...
Can anyone let me have a oskitchen with 6.5.x + latest manila so I can add to it.

[Q] Been at this a week now and need some assistance - Cooking in latest Manila

I have been trying all week to get the latest (or any v2.5) Manila integrated into my ROM. I am using the latest osKitchen. There has been a lot of trial & error but here's what I have done so far:
Import latest HTC WWE ROM - 1.56
Rebuild this ROM just to prove it works
Replace 6.1 Kernel with 6.5 Kernel found on here
Import a newer Windows Mobile Build
Build ROM to test it works with stock OEM drivers/apps etc
Add my own preferred applications & settings etc and rebuild
At this point I now have a working ROM with the apps & settings I need, however it has the stock Manila (TouchFLO 3?) that I would like to replace. I have downloaded LOTS of manila packages and tried including them in the build whilst excluding the stock 'Manila v1.3.37395.2' but each time there is a problem. Typically the device boots OK but locks up during the first boot customisation sequence.
I am assuming (hoping?) other people have followed a similar procedure and hit the same issues? I was hoping for some pointers as to how I get past this hurdle
Thanks, Andy

Maybe you should ask in Chef Central forum?
http://forum.xda-developers.com/forumdisplay.php?f=612
And your signature says Kaiser??? We use Blackstone...

Bodisson said:
Maybe you should ask in Chef Central forum?
http://forum.xda-developers.com/forumdisplay.php?f=612
And your signature says Kaiser??? We use Blackstone...
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Been trawling through the Chef Central forum for a week...
There are lots of Manila threads but I can't find anything that matches my issue. Thought I'd try on the Native Blackstone forum
Only got the Blackstone last week - still have the Kaiser until I can get the ROM just as I want it. I'll update my signature

I can't believe that nobody has hit the same issues as me
The stock ROM that I imported simply doesn't have the correct packages or simplu cannot support the latest Manila so needs updating/replacing etc. I have searched and searched (and searched and searched...) but I am really struggling to find out what I need to add/remove/update from the stock ROM packages to get the latest Manila in my 6.5 ROM.
Anyone? Please?

i think you didnt search enough.
if you look to sticky thread there you can see a fully working kitchens.
i would say take a look at there.
Based to this kitchen you will learn more about the packs what you need to use manila 2.5
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=515824
and take a look at this thread You will learn more about manila
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=584978
If you really cant find anything
I can upload mine kitchen which is working great
I did go to the dark side (iphone 4)
I have 42 memory usage after soft reset and it very stable
Its up to you do you want a kitchen which is made by yourself ( which is the best way to learn cooking) or...
cheers
Rambo

Thanks for that link Rambo. I honestly tried searching using different word combinations and could not find that thread
It has helped me somewhat however I am still struggling getting Manila 2.5 to work with osKitchen.
I have now resorted to using the whole of the HTC Leo EXT packages and then replacing/grafting in EXT packages from the original Blackstone dump. This is working but has various issues that need fixing.
I'll plod on....
Andy

it isnt that easy ha
if you need any help let us know.
or you can always ask questions in the chef central thread.
good luck
rambo