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Hi,
I was active in the BA forum about a year ago, and have some free time now so would like to get my BA working again
When I was here last helmi had just released his first 6.0 rom. Could anyone advise me about how the ROMs have improved since then, i.e. improvements between 6.0 - 6.1 - 6.5, and recommend which version to install?
I'm mainly looking for stability and a clean and well organised interface. I tried a ROM just now out of curiosity and found it was completely messed up with coverflow picture viewers, oversized task managers etc. which did not look good.
Thanks for any help, or just general ROM discussion
hardingt0110
maybe i will recook latest 6.1
if you really look for stability do not try WM 6.5, about the speed the 6.5 roms are quite fast
i personally use 6.5 because i can handle the crashes here and there, but it is possible you never encounter a crach on 6.5
WM6.5 is still in beta stage thats why you may encounter bugs ...
try for yourself, i recomend if you use your device on daily basis and not just for toy use 6.1 until 6.5 becomes RTM
wm6.1 build 21032 or 21038 are waiting for ya
Cheers for the help
So which ROM would you guys reccomend for my requirements of fewest bugs / cleanest interface? I guess imatrix you were talking about xtreme's ROMS there, or sun_dreams?
@xplode: once wm6.5 is stable, will it have any improvements over 6.1? Would I be better with a 6.0 over 6.1 for that matter? That would be great if you could make a new version of 6.1
Thanks
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try for yourself, i recomend if you use your device on daily basis and not just for toy use 6.1 until 6.5 becomes RTM
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I for once don't agree with you! LOL Well I use R3 Your Creation... on a daily basis and beat the cheet out of it, and have had very few crashes... So... C'mon mate, trust your work Its going great. Getting ready to flash R5.1 . I just need to sync phone first. I had to re-format my pc and haven't installed Outlook yet, so, till I can find my Office CD and can Sync my contact I won't be flashing. Oh... I hate moving... Still have 1/2 my stuff in boxes and can't remember what is where.
@ hardingt0110: I can suggest Swampy's WM6.1 : BA_M2D_CE_OS_5220275__Build_20275.1.3.3_V3 I used it for quite a while, still have it on one of my other BA's and to me, it was pretty featured and stable. Use it with his ExtROM.
If you read a little on the top 10 threads, you will find most answers to your questions about 6.0 vrs .1 and .5
Happy Flashing!
@ Explode: Like I said, I haven't flashed 6.5 R5.1 yet, but just from what you've wrote, I can already say... Thank You! You've really put your time into this last ROM. My Respects to you and all the other great cookers.
@ Swampy: You've been a little quiet my friend. Waiting to see what's New @ Swamps Cooking
@ markanthonypr: Edit your signature lazy boy, you don't have a "working Tornado" anymore LOL
@ Rafyvitto: Thanks for suggesting BA its all your fault LOL
I will always try latest ROM, though I know it could be buggy, but I feel we are the persons to give true feedback to developers to resolve build related issues and finally make them solid. Developers are working for us and we should help them by pointing out bugs in decent ways ( not discouraging ways) I have installed xplode's 6.5.1
April 1 said:
I will always try latest ROM, though I know it could be buggy, but I feel we are the persons to give true feedback to developers to resolve build related issues and finally make them solid. Developers are working for us and we should help them by pointing out bugs in decent ways ( not discouraging ways) I have installed xplode's 6.5.1
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I'm totally agreed with that!
I tried Swampy's M2D CE_OS_5.2.20931, its fast but the folders are not really organized. I'm currently using xplode's Build 19209; slower but stable and looks pretty official.
Cheers to ROM developers!
xplode said:
maybe i will recook latest 6.1
if you really look for stability do not try WM 6.5, about the speed the 6.5 roms are quite fast
i personally use 6.5 because i can handle the crashes here and there, but it is possible you never encounter a crach on 6.5
WM6.5 is still in beta stage thats why you may encounter bugs ...
try for yourself, i recomend if you use your device on daily basis and not just for toy use 6.1 until 6.5 becomes RTM
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@xplode,
You know mark is right, right? You should have more trust in your work buddy!! Your roms are normally great with a few bugs here and there.
@ hardingt0110
If I were you, I would jump directly to WM6.5. markanthonypr is right on the money... I use 6.5 for daily use and I beat it like a rented mule without any issues. I have had to do a series or SR in the past week, but it is not because of the rom itself but rather because of the latest release of PointUI2, which for some reason is buggy as hell. I uninstalled it and everything is back to normal. Try it, you may like it...
@ mark
Moving is always a pain in the a$$. Don't feel bad though, I moved about 2 years ago and I still have half of my stuff packed in boxes.
Thanks for all the help guys, you've saved me hours of ROM trying and the associated risks in flashing
I think I will try xplode's R5.1, as the screenshots of the interface look pretty neat. How does the honeycomb interface work? It always looks slightly too big for the screen?
Has anyone got any reccomendations for interface enhancements for wm6.5? S2P http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=417511 looks a lot nicer than WMP along with all the other apps by A_C.
Thanks
EDIT: What are the fixed themes next to the ROM download? do I need these if I download the fixed rom?
hardingt0110 said:
Thanks for all the help guys, you've saved me hours of ROM trying and the associated risks in flashing
I think I will try xplode's R5.1, as the screenshots of the interface look pretty neat. How does the honeycomb interface work? It always looks slightly too big for the screen?
Has anyone got any reccomendations for interface enhancements for wm6.5? S2P http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=417511 looks a lot nicer than WMP along with all the other apps by A_C.
Thanks
EDIT: What are the fixed themes next to the ROM download? do I need these if I download the fixed rom?
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The apps enhancements are really up to personal taste... Here's what I normally have
Main UI: Varies but currently using PointUI 2 Free v 2.018b (later releases are too buggy)
Music Player: S2P
Lock Program: either S2U2 or ThrottleLock
Browser: NetFront Browser Concept 3.5 and Iris Browser (both are light, pretty fast, and Iris can use true Flv video (youtube and such))
Contact Manager: Pocket CM
Keyboard: PCM keyboard
Mail Management: I use the stock Pocket Outlook. However, Flexmail isn't bad either (not free though)
Video Player: Either CorePlayer or TCPMP
Picture Viewer: S2P
Games: A bunch!!
GPS Program: IGo 6 (will change it to Google Navigate eventually, but this one works rather well).
Calendar: Thumbcal (not free)
Thanks i will look into those
By the way I figured out that the honeycomb scrolls
I still don't know what those fixed themes are :S can I still use my own background in wm6.5?
yes of course you can use customized backgrounds. if you pick a qvga jpg picture, open it with "pictures and videos" you can set it as today background and select transparency, that also makes it the start menu background and those abstract pictures, general dark background with colorful lightplay looks wonderful. i already tried a lot of custom backgrounds and can't even decide with which to go permanently. i wouldn't recommend .tsk today themes though, they didn't just change the title bar and menu bar, which i expected, they took away all the finger friendlyness and put back the ugly old menus and scrollbars.
Hi all,
Anyone can advice which version of the TF3D is running best on the X1 for those portrait and landscape mode that available here?
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I'm wondering to. What are you're xperiances from the different TF3D:s?
I'm getting the performance due to response have been slow down and also it's still not support the landscape mode.
...sorry...
as far as I could understand, the best ones are the the tf3d versions of itje and daran clarke, which are cooked into the rom. The diference between them is that itje's is much more customized, while daran's is close to the original. I personally don't have balls yet to try out the roms using daran's beta2 as a panel from time to time (it is not that fast as the ones cooked into the rom and doesn't have landscape support though).
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I'm getting the performance due to response have been slow down and also it's still not support the landscape mode.
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TF3D from rhodium support landscape mode (included in Itje's Touch-It 4.5 rom)
Itje's version 5.0 of the newest rhodium TF3D is up and running. VERY fast and smoothe. No bugs reported as of yet, so if i were you, I would flash this goodie onto the X1 asap. Enjoyy
I am a big fan of TF3D right from day 1 of my X1. But recently i sifted to Home UI 2 and trust me its very very good. TF3D is resource hungry and slows your x1 a lot. Just try Home UI 2 and see.
yeah, home ui 2 is delicious, but it does not support Russian, thatmakes me sad panda
Manila Good, Home 2 Good
I haven't tried the ROMs - still too chicken to go the full hard SPL and non-stock ROM root at the moment.
I've tried both the main TF3D cabs (daran's and itje's) and I personally prefer itje's:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=442154
I've found both of them problematic as a normal today plugin and found that they run better as a panel (search for pubba's TF3D panel.)
As with moleculez, I've recently fallen for Home 2. The initial betas seemed to play up but the latest one I downloaded (v2.0.28e) seemed to be a lot better. There are already a load of applets and themes for Home 2 as well and I particularly like the 5-day forecast that allows you to select cities more easily than the default today applet.
But I digress... so for me its itje's cab that wins the day for me (if you aren't willing to go the whole hog and flash a custom ROM.) Also tried it with the Rodium mods, supplied by xboxmod, which includes landscape but that's only for VGA (not WVGA like the X1) so it screwed up the portrait mode a bit and has caused a couple of other funny bits of behaviour. xboxmod's mods are available here:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=493531
Really, I think if you are serious about TF3D then its got to be a custom ROM though.
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Itje's version 5.0 of the newest rhodium TF3D is up and running. VERY fast and smoothe. No bugs reported as of yet, so if i were you, I would flash this goodie onto the X1 asap. Enjoyy
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Really? However, i'm just only find the thread for 4.5; can you advice the link for the version 5.0 so that i can take a look then?
Many Thanks
Webbmeister said:
I haven't tried the ROMs - still too chicken to go the full hard SPL and non-stock ROM root at the moment.
I've tried both the main TF3D cabs (daran's and itje's) and I personally prefer itje's:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=442154
I've found both of them problematic as a normal today plugin and found that they run better as a panel (search for pubba's TF3D panel.)
As with moleculez, I've recently fallen for Home 2. The initial betas seemed to play up but the latest one I downloaded (v2.0.28e) seemed to be a lot better. There are already a load of applets and themes for Home 2 as well and I particularly like the 5-day forecast that allows you to select cities more easily than the default today applet.
But I digress... so for me its itje's cab that wins the day for me (if you aren't willing to go the whole hog and flash a custom ROM.) Also tried it with the Rodium mods, supplied by xboxmod, which includes landscape but that's only for VGA (not WVGA like the X1) so it screwed up the portrait mode a bit and has caused a couple of other funny bits of behaviour. xboxmod's mods are available here:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=493531
Really, I think if you are serious about TF3D then its got to be a custom ROM though.
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Actually, i'm much prefer to using TF3D since i like the interface much more then HomeUI2 However, i've still using the stock ROM of R2AA from SE instead of the customize one; so, i may try to wait for the B3 release by Darans's then....hehee....
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Really? However, i'm just only find the thread for 4.5; can you advice the link for the version 5.0 so that i can take a look then?
Many Thanks
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Touch-It v5.0 here
MOD! please move to Vogue Upgrading Forum!
I just installed 6.5, but I think I am going back to 6.1
CONS
MD2 is far superior in every way, especially when it comes to email, you can view headers and check multiple accounts quickly, it is much nicer too.
I hate the fact that I cant quickly access my recently used programs.
PROS
it feels a bit faster
Bottom Line
I really think that 6.5 is no big deal, just a bit of eye candy, its funny how microsoft paid big bucks for fashion designers to design some themes instead of investing a couple of thousand dollars for a decent UI expert, they never cease to amaze me with their stupidity.
it is a shame that everybody is going along with it, as if this is the next big thing, it is really a very small baby step. MD2 not to speak of MD3 are far superior in every way.
Have I missed something? What do you guys think?
Which version of 6.5 did you install? The one nfsfan cooked up has m2d in it and thats what iam using... 6.5 w/ m2d as the GUI... i have noticed everything on my phone seems much easier/faster to work. No way id go back to 6.1...
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Which version of 6.5 did you install? The one nfsfan cooked up has m2d in it and thats what iam using... 6.5 w/ m2d as the GUI... i have noticed everything on my phone seems much easier/faster to work. No way id go back to 6.1...
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Really? I am gonna try this. Last time I tried 6.5, I did not see M2D
just try nfsfans v8 6.5 rom, if that isnt a good enough reason for you to keep 6.5, then you need to switch to a crackberry
yup... under the today options...uncheck the default and check touchflo...
I didnt like the 6.5 gui either and went straight back to m2d in the options. Just updated to v8 for 6.5 a few moments ago and the options are there... I believe nfsfan had it in is roms for the last few versions...
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Which version of 6.5 did you install? The one nfsfan cooked up has m2d in it and thats what iam using... 6.5 w/ m2d as the GUI... i have noticed everything on my phone seems much easier/faster to work. No way id go back to 6.1...
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I use his rom, but MD2 is buggy in 6.5 (i tried v8 too)
I loved his ROM , it's best of both world, but i mainly use M2D , and also SPB Shell 3 , switch it back and forth.
I switched back to 6.1 simply because I hated 6.5's UI on the Today screen.
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I use his rom, but MD2 is buggy in 6.5 (i tried v8 too)
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Buggy in which way? Can you eleborate?
I was using v6 r2 for almost two weeks and it was rock solid...then i switched over to v8 just the other day and again.... rock solid. If you find it "buggy" in his release you should make note of it so he can work on it and try and resolve those issues...
Personally it feels like m2d w6.1 but faster and more stable. Launching Garmin would take some time before hand, and now with 6.5, is 10x faster...
i dont particularly like the large icon start menu. is there anyway to change it to a smaller view of the icons?
I went back to 6.1.
Slingbox Mobile looks like ass using 6.5 unless I disabled both the 6.5 GUI and M2D. It's a big deal for me cause I use Sling a lot. Memory issues somewhere.
Other than that, I think 6.5 with M2D worked pretty good.
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Buggy in which way? Can you eleborate?
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see the screen shot please
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see the screen shot please
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that never happen to me i ahve the sprint touch works prefectly
what the.. with the purple thing lol
mine looks awesomee *_*
I don't know when you encountered that screen glitch, but I experienced a similar issue with NFSFAN's 6.5 rom after I changed themes. A soft reset always cleared up the problem for me.
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I don't know when you encountered that screen glitch, but I experienced a similar issue with NFSFAN's 6.5 rom after I changed themes. A soft reset always cleared up the problem for me.
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same thing here... its a problem with some of the themes.. not 6.5
and there is a way to get smaller icons. just seach the forums. its there somwhere in a 6.5 guide
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I went back to 6.1.
Slingbox Mobile looks like ass using 6.5 unless I disabled both the 6.5 GUI and M2D. It's a big deal for me cause I use Sling a lot. Memory issues somewhere.
Other than that, I think 6.5 with M2D worked pretty good.
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What versions are you using?
Slingplayer mobile currently has these version that were just released
* SlingPlayer Mobile for Windows Pocket PC 1.6.0.114 (US)
* SlingPlayer Mobile for Windows Smartphone 1.6.0.62 (US)
* SlingPlayer Mobile for Palm OS 1.00.22 (US)
* Windows Mobile Downloads (UK)
As for an application not working correctly with a pre-release version of WinMO, thats hardly the Chefs fault as the Application might not have a version to even look at yet let alone develop for
What versions of WinMO 6.5 have you tried - different Chefs utilize different kitchens and different items and tweaks as well so without trying all of them you really dont know if one wouldnt work or all wouldnt
Up to you if you want the time to spend with it I dont use it as if I want to watch television, I watch it, if Im out and cant watch some show or event, well thats what bittorrent or hulu is for LOL
Detroit Doug
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see the screen shot please
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have to agree here - thats an incompatible version of some theme on that ROM
Have seen it a few times myself, not the ROM thats for sure as it didnt occur when you first flashed and used the device, just after something was installed
Detroit Doug
I have a pair of bluetooth headphones by Sony (DR-BT21G) with media controls (AVRCP). This has always worked perfectly with the HTC Audio Manager throughout many ROMS (the default and Dutty's) but I upgraded to WM6.5 this weekend and it no longer works. Now, any time I try to use the controls, Windows Media Player fires up and takes over. Is there any way to change this or to manually set this back to the HTC Audio Manager? Listening to music is probably what I do most with my HD so this is probably reason enough for me to go back to a different ROM if I can't figure this out.
I've searched like crazy and it seems to happen to the WM6.5 Energy ROMs too, so it must be a general WM6.5/Manilla problem. So far, I've tried looking through all the settings in HD Tweak and Advanced Config, as well as changing the 0 and 1 keys in HKLM\Software\Microsoft\Shell\Rai\:WMPLAYER to point to AudioManager_Eng.exe, but none of that worked.
Does anyone have any other ideas?
Edit: Slowly, it seems to be becoming clearer that the Bluetooth Driver might be (part of) the solution. Any assistance in getting different versions of the BTHCI.DLL file or more insight would be great! If you have a Manila 2.5 ROM with working bluetooth control, please take a minute to share your driver with us!
I have exactly the same problem and I've posted about it here: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=566157&highlight=AVRCP
elammertsma said:
I have a pair of bluetooth headphones by Sony (DR-BT21G) with media controls. This has always worked perfectly with the HTC Audio Manager throughout many ROMS (the default and Dutty's) but I upgraded to WM6.5 this weekend and it no longer works. Now, any time I try to use the controls, Windows Media Player fires up and takes over. Is there any way to change this or to manually set this back to the HTC Audio Manager? Listening to music is probably what I do most with my HD so this is probably reason enough for me to go back to a different ROM if I can't figure this out.
I've searched like crazy and it seems to happen to the WM6.5 Energy ROMs too, so it must be a general WM6.5/Manilla problem. So far, I've tried looking through all the settings in HD Tweak and Advanced Config, as well as changing the 0 and 1 keys in HKLM\Software\Microsoft\Shell\Rai\:WMPLAYER to point to AudioManager_Eng.exe, but none of that worked.
Does anyone have any other ideas?
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Same here with Dutty R5.
A fix would be great.
I worked pretty hard at trying to find a solution but to no avail. I found that there's a key in the registry that refers to a bluetooth plugin for WMP, but deleting it had no effect and I don't think there's a simple way to get rid of the actual plugin. Doing so also still doesn't guarantee that AudioManager will take over. Maybe if someone takes the time to try swapping out files between (for example) Dutty's WM6.1 v4.3 and Dutty's WM6.5 Leo R5, it might work. Particularly, swapping out AudioManager_Eng.exe and all WMP files and registry settings might work. Just an idea! I'd do it myself, but considering crazy work hours, my need for a working phone and problems I've been having with 6.5 it will be a while before I can do more on this.
I was also using Dutty's Leo R5 but due to major stability issues which seemed to be primarily related to importing contacts and texts (through either PIM or "My Phone"). I'll miss the twitter tab and all the neat features of the new manila and WM6.5 improvements but for now Dutty's v4.3 Final is just so much faster, more reliable and doesn't have the bluetooth problem.
Unless some smart guy figures this one out, I think we can best just hope for it to be resolved in a future rom with a fix in the new Manila.
The question for me is: Is this problem on all 6.5 ROMs??? I thought I had tried a 6.5 ROM before without this issue... but I might be wrong...
Am I right in assuming you returned to Dutty's 6.1 ROM? Because then I would flash a 6.5 ROM and we could test replacing files: You upload them here and I try replacing them on my Blackstone!
Update: I just flashed PhamQuang's V67 (a 6.5 ROM with Manila 2.1) - and guess what: My BT-headset controls the TF3D music player!
So maybe this is not a 6.1 vs. 6.5 problem, but rather a Manila 2.1 vs. 2.5 problem? Or it just depends on what ROM you are using and if the cook has done his magic correctly?
Great news! I'm glad you have it working and it narrows the problem down a bit.
So it seems that for now, bluetooth music lovers should steer clear of M2.5. I'd think it's a Manila 2.5 problem considering it works on all Manila 2.1 versions I've tried so far and on PhamQuang's V67 ROM with WM6.5 that you're using. I still wonder if swapping files between Manila 2.1 and 2.5 would be possible, but after using WM6.1 and Manila 2.1 for a day I'm hooked on the speed and won't be going back to Manila 2.5 until some major speed improvements have been made. (Or am I mistaken and is WM6.5 the laggy culprit?)
Considering you have your headset working with PhamQuang's V67 and it runs WM6.5, I'd like to wander off topic a bit and ask how you like that one? Has it been fast and stable so far? I've been pretty happy and faithful to Dutty's work but if there's something better out there (with working bluetooth to HTC's AM) I'm definitely game! I especially miss the smoother kinetic scrolling of WM6.5 and the wonderful Twitter tab in Manila 2.5. I guess I'll just have to be patient for that last one considering it seems you can't have everything.
Fix. thx to Gooru from xda-developers.info
Awesome! Thanks NewFolk! I'm glad there's a solution and hopefully it will help anyone who's searching for it. I can't test whether it works on Dutty's Leo R5 at the moment but I'll take your word for it
At least this is one less reason to avoid WM6.5 + M2.5!
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Considering you have your headset working with PhamQuang's V67 and it runs WM6.5, I'd like to wander off topic a bit and ask how you like that one? Has it been fast and stable so far? I've been pretty happy and faithful to Dutty's work but if there's something better out there (with working bluetooth to HTC's AM) I'm definitely game! I especially miss the smoother kinetic scrolling of WM6.5 and the wonderful Twitter tab in Manila 2.5. I guess I'll just have to be patient for that last one considering it seems you can't have everything.
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PhamQuang's ROMs aren't the fastest ones out there, which is why I'll switch to a different 6.5 ROM or back to Topix (the best 6.1 ROM I've tried) as soon as I get my LCD replacement (I managed to break my LCD screen while attempting to exchange the touchscreen... )
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Fix. thx to Gooru from xda-developers.info
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Awesome! Thank you! Hopefully this fix enables every WM+Manila combination!
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Awesome! Thanks NewFolk! I'm glad there's a solution and hopefully it will help anyone who's searching for it. I can't test whether it works on Dutty's Leo R5 at the moment but I'll take your word for it
At least this is one less reason to avoid WM6.5 + M2.5!
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If you get around to trying a 6.5+2.5 ROM, please post some feedback!
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Fix. thx to Gooru from xda-developers.info
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Didn't work for me on Miri's V10, still launching WMP. Still looking for a solution.
Wow, sorry to hear about your screen, MAMeingast. I wouldn't dare attempt that with my dear HD, although I do wish it had a capacitive screen. I haven't touched my stylus in months.
If I can get Sashimi to do decent backups and automated installs, I might be able to experiment with ROMs more freely, but for now XML provisioning and other settings restorations don't seem to work well and reflashing and configuring still takes a few hours each time. I might try a full backup of my current setup this weekend and test a few Manila 2.5 ROMs. Maybe I can pinpoint what the differences are between the working and non-working BT configurations are and make a cab to fix it. Unfortunately, I'm not aware of a method to monitor file or registry key access so I can't see what's active during BT headset pairing. In other words, getting that together will have to be a pretty labor intensive process.
The cab file simply contains a version of the BTHCI.dll driver file. I haven't been able to find Gooru's original post (using Google translate considering the site's all Russian), so I don't know which ROM(s) the cab file is meant for, where the file comes from or which build of WM it is included in. A quick search turned up this post by Da_G from way back in May, noting that the 216xx WM6.5 build comes with a BTHCI.dll version that isn't bound to WMP. How the binding is done isn't clear to me, but it's possible that the currently running media player (usually AudioManager_Eng.exe) would accept the input without extra configuration. If people can grab that version (see below) and post results here (or any other versions for that matter... it can't hurt to try more!), we could see if it fixes the problem. It's starting to look like that file is indeed the culprit, so good news there!
Thinking out loud: If it turns out to be more than just the driver, I might try replacing the dll on Dutty's Leo R5 first, followed by others until I find a Manila 2.5 that the cab file fixes. If that works, I can dump the file system and registry before the fix, and the file system and registry of other uncabbed ROMs to see if a general fix can be made and hopefully pass that along to Dutty and the other cooks to add to future releases. If anyone is running a Manila 2.5, please try installing the cab and posting your results. It would be additionally helpful to let us know which version (or date and size) your original BTHCI.dll is.
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Didn't work for me on Miri's V10, still launching WMP. Still looking for a solution.
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I'm sorry to hear that. Naturally, I hoped someone had come up with a general fix, but we'll keep looking. I changed the topic title back from [Solved] considering it didn't work for you. If you find out more, let us know! Maybe you can help with the dll questions, considering you're running a 2.5 ROM.
Edit: Found a download of the proposed older working BTHCI.dll! Try the cab from this post and let us know if it works for you: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showpost.php?p=3807872&postcount=114
It should be uninstallable, but I still recommend backing up your original. You can never be too careful, right?
neither #8, nor #12 can fix my problem, ROM udk Leo R3. still looking for solution...
elammertsma said:
Wow, sorry to hear about your screen, MAMeingast. I wouldn't dare attempt that with my dear HD, although I do wish it had a capacitive screen. I haven't touched my stylus in months.
If I can get Sashimi to do decent backups and automated installs, I might be able to experiment with ROMs more freely, but for now XML provisioning and other settings restorations don't seem to work well and reflashing and configuring still takes a few hours each time. I might try a full backup of my current setup this weekend and test a few Manila 2.5 ROMs. Maybe I can pinpoint what the differences are between the working and non-working BT configurations are and make a cab to fix it. Unfortunately, I'm not aware of a method to monitor file or registry key access so I can't see what's active during BT headset pairing. In other words, getting that together will have to be a pretty labor intensive process.
The cab file simply contains a version of the BTHCI.dll driver file. I haven't been able to find Gooru's original post (using Google translate considering the site's all Russian), so I don't know which ROM(s) the cab file is meant for, where the file comes from or which build of WM it is included in. A quick search turned up this post by Da_G from way back in May, noting that the 216xx WM6.5 build comes with a BTHCI.dll version that isn't bound to WMP. How the binding is done isn't clear to me, but it's possible that the currently running media player (usually AudioManager_Eng.exe) would accept the input without extra configuration. If people can grab that version (see below) and post results here (or any other versions for that matter... it can't hurt to try more!), we could see if it fixes the problem. It's starting to look like that file is indeed the culprit, so good news there!
Thinking out loud: If it turns out to be more than just the driver, I might try replacing the dll on Dutty's Leo R5 first, followed by others until I find a Manila 2.5 that the cab file fixes. If that works, I can dump the file system and registry before the fix, and the file system and registry of other uncabbed ROMs to see if a general fix can be made and hopefully pass that along to Dutty and the other cooks to add to future releases. If anyone is running a Manila 2.5, please try installing the cab and posting your results. It would be additionally helpful to let us know which version (or date and size) your original BTHCI.dll is.
I'm sorry to hear that. Naturally, I hoped someone had come up with a general fix, but we'll keep looking. I changed the topic title back from [Solved] considering it didn't work for you. If you find out more, let us know! Maybe you can help with the dll questions, considering you're running a 2.5 ROM.
Edit: Found a download of the proposed older working BTHCI.dll! Try the cab from this post and let us know if it works for you: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showpost.php?p=3807872&postcount=114
It should be uninstallable, but I still recommend backing up your original. You can never be too careful, right?
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Hi elammertsma,
I've already tried the T-Back 6.5 BT Driver.cab, still launches WMP so I'm guessing there's more to this than just the version of BTHCI.dll. The BTHCI.dll included in Miri's V10 ROM is dated 01/10/09 16:31 (although that may be the date I installed the ROM, not sure) and is 63K in size. Hope this helps.
seems the bthci.dll is a rom file, and prevent copy? I try to copy the file from a rom which headset could interface with manila audiomanager, but fail - say the file in not allow to copy...
i-PDA2006 said:
seems the bthci.dll is a rom file, and prevent copy? I try to copy the file from a rom which headset could interface with manila audiomanager, but fail - say the file in not allow to copy...
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You'll need to use another file manager like Total Commander or Resco File Explorer to copy the BTHCI.dll file
mauriceheath said:
You'll need to use another file manager like Total Commander or Resco File Explorer to copy the BTHCI.dll file
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I'm using the Resco, but still same problem. Properties of the bthci.dll is checked for hide/ready/sys/rom. It can not be seen both in WM file explorer and Resco, but in Resco search for the name you can find it. I try to copy via Resco, it said copy fail...
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Hi elammertsma,
I've already tried the T-Back 6.5 BT Driver.cab, still launches WMP so I'm guessing there's more to this than just the version of BTHCI.dll. The BTHCI.dll included in Miri's V10 ROM is dated 01/10/09 16:31 (although that may be the date I installed the ROM, not sure) and is 63K in size. Hope this helps.
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For mine:
1. BTfix.cab, still activate WMP, and seems no change at all.
- I try WMP, my headset is still interface with it, works well.
- Manila audio - sound was transferred to headset but interface no.
- CorePlayer - sound was transferred to headset but interface no.
2. T-Back 6.5 BT Driver.cab, not activate the WMP any more, and others unchanged.
- I try WMP, need manually open WMP first, and my headset is still interface with it, works well.
- Manila audio - sound was transferred to headset but interface no.
- CorePlayer - sound was transferred to headset but interface no.
being a bluetoth headphones ower to i ued the htc audio player too. im using nrgz photon rom 11.10.09 manilla 2.1. the default launched audio player from headphones is media player. tried this fix it dont fix it. yes i know its for m.2.5 i was just hoping it would work.
guess i will have to make playlists there instead. i remember there being issues with Wmp it wouldnt recognise all my content. like eminem album i got from play.com. all my own cd rips are good though lol. i will post a fix if i find one. i got a cab. the for s2p which is called tback but all that does is the opposite and unlocks the htc audiomanager and reverts to WMP or s2p. ive looked at nitrogen but unable to find anyway to make headphones work.
My Observations on this
Now my observations on this is that it was not happening on NRG Leo release 14092009 (think it may have been the last Genisis version). We know that NRG's rom platform on 23016 is rock solid as he has stated that many times so I'm suspecting it must be something in the lastest M2.5 version 1919xxx or another package addition as it seems to be effecting all the current Roms running this version of the Leo Manilla. I'm really suspecting that it is something in the way M2.5 HTC audio player is interfacing with WMP but that is just my humble non technical opinion
Can't find if BT stack has been updated in all of this. Bit of a bugger as I have the same issue in the my current version 23092009 release and it is also in the 11102009 release. Hope NRG can take a look at this as I use my BT headset constantly or my bit helps in some small way in finding a solution. In the meantime I'm falling way back to 14092009 NRG Leo version.
Introduction:
I have been around for a few years "cooking" Windows Mobile ROMs for various CDMA devices from the Titan and ending with the Rhodium. I took a break form Windows Mobile and bought an EVO and had cook a few android ROMS, but had gotten very bored with the lack of internal customization of Android, so I decided to buy another WM 6.5 phone and restart my favorite pass-time hobby.
Concept:
The "concept" of this ROM is based off of what HTC did with its Sense interface and how deeply HTC embedded Sense within the Android OS. I like using Sense on Windows Mobile and wanted to do the same with what I believe HTC should have done with WM 6.5.3, so this ROM is alot different from your normal ROM as it is solely based and dependant on Sense.
Features:
This is not a "feature" ROM in fact most of your normal Sense features like Facebook intergration, Twitter, and Footprints have been disabled and removed for the time being since those are services that I do not heavily rely on, however if interest persist I may add Twitter and Facebook intergration later. The ROM does contain most of HTC's common Sense software such as Audio Booster to the Voice Recorder with the removal of the "bloat" software such as the WorldCard Business Card Reader, Java Blend, and JetCet Printing.
Summary:
This basis of this is to remove as much un-neccessary parts of the WM 6.5.3 OS to replace it with Sense to make Sense as much of the main OS as possible.
Instructions for flashing:
Code:
This ROM is compatible with all HD2 devices manufactured by HTC.
If you're a beginner, please read as there's a few things you need to do first.
•You need to install a modified SPL on your device that allows installation of custom ROMs such as this one. It's called a Hard SPL and it's here http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=611433.
•You need to install a compatible radio that works with this ROM. The radios that work with this ROM all have ".50" in their name.
If you have a TMobile USA branded device, then you don't need to flash a radio. The ROM will work just fine with it. However, if you own an asian or european HD2 then you NEED to flash a .50 radio.
* :HSPL 1.66 Minimum recommended.
* :No Radio is included in this release.
* :Correct radio needed to enable 576 ram for NON-T-Mous HD2 users.
* :Please hard reset after flashing.
Info about the ROM:
* Base official T-Mous stock 3.14.531 (T-Mobile US HD2 and HTC HD2 EU compatible)
* MS build 23152 WM6.5.3
*Only compatible with radio version: 2.xx.50.xx
Available memory:
Storage: over 750 mb
Program: over 300 mb
576mb ram enabled
It's a very light rom with all of the HTC "stock" look, there is no user customization built in
Added:
Code:
Adobe Reader
RSS Hub
Digital Compass
YouTube
Teeter
FM Radio
MP3 Trimmer
Audio Booster
Streaming Media
HTC Album (6.5.3 version No Facebook album viewing)
Quick GPS
Voice Recorder
HTC Wi-Fi Router
Opera Browser
HTC Messaging Client
Removed:
Code:
Windows Live
Windows Messenger
Solitaire
MS Office
Adobe Flash
Internet Explorer 6
Remote Desktop
WM Widgets
MS MyPhone
WM 6.5 Lockscreen
Google Maps
JetCet Printing
Java
All WM 6.5.3 Themes
HTC NaviPanel
Foot Prints
WorldCard Mobile
MS Facebook
IME Tutorial
MS Market (you have a better chance visiting a ppc freeware site)
Leo Manila 2018 (No RSS Home)
Tabs Included:
Home
Contacts
Sms
Email
Internet
Calendar
Album
Music
Weather
Settings
TESTING THE ROM FOR PERFORMANCE
* Flash the ROM
* Hard reset after ROM Flash orTask 29 before Flashing ROM either choice
* DO NOT INSTALL ANY 3RD PARTY APPS UNTIL TRYING THE ROM FIRST AND READING IF YOUR SOFTWARE IS COMPATIBLE WITH WM6.5.3, This will help to give you the experience of the base ROM
* I dont use 3rd party apps or tweak since my rom is tweaked how i use it daily.
* After testing the rom and your'e happy, Install your software one at a time then soft reset and try the device to see if anything any bugs occur.
Disclaimer:
This is a ROM that I created for myself with me in mind, that I am sharing with the XDA community. If enough general interest is surfaces any feature that is not present or that should be remove will be taken into consideration in future ROMS.
DOWNLOAD
http://www.mediafire.com/?jhn239kfztxd5xs
RESERVED ..........
It is always a good news to have a new cook cooking a cooked rom for hd2
Please add additional info on the rom you cooked, such as version, radio, spl, etc
Congrats and thanks for sharing your rom
Cheers...
Coming back from WP7, will flash soon and let you know.
Virus! Virus!! Virus!!!
So said my norton antivirus
will download it now ,and w'll see what happens.
hummy15 said:
So said my norton antivirus
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AVG and Microsoft security essentials they say no.
Fat boy Norton scaremongering again?
Hey thanks you guys let me know what you think I have to finish my OP but it will be later and we will call this a beta
So far so good, no freezes, crashes or glitches.
All connections work.
Good work.
Thanks 10 char
http://www.mediafire.com/?jhn239kfztxd5xs Updated ROM and updated first OP ... don't sleep on this one I will put my old rep on the line and say that this one is as stable as the most popular ROMs
So this is stock Sense ROM, but based on WM 6.5.3 and without twitter, facebook and bloatware?
If yes, it's really cool! However I miss twitter, is it possible to bring it back?
"results"
hello,
well, i got back from droid as few of things i need did not worked. so needed something to start again with
so .. i flashed this and i must say i am pleased very nice, everything thats needed, nothing more. ok, i need some of my usual stuff, but thats MINE .. but ..
of course there should be "but.." you cannot satisfy everyone
the only thing i really miss in this rom are buttons. close/back/send in combo with back .. you get the idea .. one of the main problems in droid is missing those buttons, and destroying hw buttons on the bottom of the phone. yes, i know those hardware buttons are there for that, but as we all know, they are not so good in quality .. so .. if this could be solved, this would be the perfect rom .. well, for me anyway
cheers
raven_raven said:
So this is stock Sense ROM, but based on WM 6.5.3 and without twitter, facebook and bloatware?
If yes, it's really cool! However I miss twitter, is it possible to bring it back?
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yes completely stock no bloatware
I am working on another update since a new "sense" version was released I will try to work something out for an add-on
vicai said:
hello,
well, i got back from droid as few of things i need did not worked. so needed something to start again with
so .. i flashed this and i must say i am pleased very nice, everything thats needed, nothing more. ok, i need some of my usual stuff, but thats MINE .. but ..
of course there should be "but.." you cannot satisfy everyone
the only thing i really miss in this rom are buttons. close/back/send in combo with back .. you get the idea .. one of the main problems in droid is missing those buttons, and destroying hw buttons on the bottom of the phone. yes, i know those hardware buttons are there for that, but as we all know, they are not so good in quality .. so .. if this could be solved, this would be the perfect rom .. well, for me anyway
cheers
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I will make a cab for this it is just a registry tweak
If it's just a registry tweak, you can simply post it, I think we can do it ourselves .
raven_raven said:
If it's just a registry tweak, you can simply post it, I think we can do it ourselves .
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After some testing I decided to add the virtual buttons back will be "fixed" or added in the next upload
jakdillard said:
I will make a cab for this it is just a registry tweak
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raven_raven said:
If it's just a registry tweak, you can simply post it, I think we can do it ourselves .
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cabs are silly for simple registry tweaks.
Since you did not get an answer raven, the entries are listed below. Change them to 0 or delete them if you want the stock 6.5.x interface.
Code:
[HKEY_LOCAL_MACHINE\SOFTWARE\Microsoft\Shell\BubbleTiles]
"TextModeEnabled"=dword:00000001
"HardwareStartKeyEnabled"=dword:00000001
"HardwareDoneKeyEnabled"=dword:00000001
mwalt2 said:
cabs are silly for simple registry tweaks.
Since you did not get an answer raven, the entries are listed below. Change them to 0 or delete them if you want the stock 6.5.x interface.
Code:
[HKEY_LOCAL_MACHINE\SOFTWARE\Microsoft\Shell\BubbleTiles]
"TextModeEnabled"=dword:00000001
"HardwareStartKeyEnabled"=dword:00000001
"HardwareDoneKeyEnabled"=dword:00000001
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Thanks for posting this registry tweak, however you are coming off little aggressive and negetive, could you not do that please as the emotion is not necessary to help someone out. Thanks JD
jakdillard said:
Thanks for posting this registry tweak, however you are coming off little aggressive and negative, could you not do that please as the emotion is not necessary to help someone out. Thanks JD
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Sorry, that was not my intention at all.
mwalt2 said:
Sorry, that was not my intention at all.
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No problamo I am just glad we got that sorted and cleared up again that for posting that tweak since I didn't get back to it