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Its not advertised, however I've had phones in the past with the functionality even though its not advertised, kind of treated as a standard feature.
Before I shelled out for the X10, I read quite a few reviews and spec sheets on it and was very impressed by the offering. One site I normally used before buying a phone is GSM Arena as they seem to be very good and realistic.
Anyways point in hand, they all said, under multimedia that Video Out was present on the phone.
This doesn't seem to be the case at all! I've tried 3 3.5mm video out cables, all which I know work with othet devices but nothing but audio.
Anyone else has any success with it, or have any insight to whether it'll come or not?
I appreciate I have already posted a similar question in the accessories area, however it doesn't get enough traffic for any decent answers to come from it. Cheers guys!
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Hmmm, have you tried a micro usb to video cable like I have on my Cannon? I will try and report back.
EDIT: My cannon has a mini USB port, so I can't try.
I posted this over at AndroidForums on the Vibrant board. I figured I would post it here too.
No, you won't be able to use this everywhere. (Unless you have a portable TV).
1. Connect your Galaxy S to a TV/monitor/etc. using these:
Amazon.com: Microsoft Zune 30GB, 80GB, 4GB, 8GB AV ( Audio Video ) RCA Cable - 4.5 Feet: Electronics
2. Go into options and turn TV Out on.
3. Go into your Video chat app. Place the phone backwards so the regular camera is facing you.
4. You can now look at the TV/Monitor to see who you are talking to while they can see you because your camera is facing you.
Perhaps you thought of this, maybe you didn't. I did it this afternoon. It's fun!
haha clever, didn't think of that.
Very clever indeed.
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richiehd said:
I posted this over at AndroidForums on the Vibrant board. I figured I would post it here too.
No, you won't be able to use this everywhere. (Unless you have a portable TV).
1. Connect your Galaxy S to a TV/monitor/etc. using these:
Amazon.com: Microsoft Zune 30GB, 80GB, 4GB, 8GB AV ( Audio Video ) RCA Cable - 4.5 Feet: Electronics
2. Go into options and turn TV Out on.
3. Go into your Video chat app. Place the phone backwards so the regular camera is facing you.
4. You can now look at the TV/Monitor to see who you are talking to while they can see you because your camera is facing you.
Perhaps you thought of this, maybe you didn't. I did it this afternoon. It's fun!
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And for that trouble I will use my laptop with a built-in webcam.
Or you could just stand in front of a mirror...
wow thats for the info! Will try it when i get home
btw what chat app are we talking about here? Sory for the noob question
Also, is there a way to turn the phone into a webcam?
denny_1986 said:
wow thats for the info! Will try it when i get home
btw what chat app are we talking about here? Sory for the noob question
Also, is there a way to turn the phone into a webcam?
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Search "Droidcam Wireless Webcam" in the Market. There are others as well but this one has the best reviews I believe.
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lqaddict said:
And for that trouble I will use my laptop with a built-in webcam.
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Hey, hey, hey. Be nice. Some people don't bring their laptops with them everywhere. I always have my phone and TV Out A/V wire with me.
niceeeeeee idea.
Call this guy "MacGyver".....Brilliant!
Jeez, the FFC mod is probably less trouble and less expensive, too. Taking apart a Vibrant isn't exactly rocket surgery - the parts either clip on or are attached with a small cable + clip. A novice could do it in five minutes, ten with extreme care. Hardly "ripping apart", and you can even find complete teardown videos on YouTube. Even the camera itself is trivial to install - no soldering or special tools required, save some cheap solvent to remove the paint.
But hey, for those who can't he bothered this is certainly a viable, if inconvenient solution.
Good idea
I ll give it a try
jbacon617 said:
Jeez, the FFC mod is probably less trouble and less expensive, too. Taking apart a Vibrant isn't exactly rocket surgery - the parts either clip on or are attached with a small cable + clip. A novice could do it in five minutes, ten with extreme care. Hardly "ripping apart", and you can even find complete teardown videos on YouTube. Even the camera itself is trivial to install - no soldering or special tools required, save some cheap solvent to remove the paint.
But hey, for those who can't he bothered this is certainly a viable, if inconvenient solution.
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It's also the best solution for people who do not wanna VOID THEIR WARRANTY. LoL.
thats just like a webcam very different from the front facing camera, the whole point of having a front facing camera is we can video chat anywhere.
Great idea! Thanks!
Any tips on the best app to use for video chat? I'm new to Android. I saw qik (sucks.. for me anyway) and knocking live..
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Feel desperate that your XPERIA X1 don't have TV-Out?
To make your X1 act as USB host, it will need a hardware modification and some patches. Coming soon.
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what about this ??
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=480899
finally, someone really smart did it waiting...
one more question, it works with mini usb tv-out cable?
Erikazz said:
finally, someone really smart did it waiting...
one more question, it works with mini usb tv-out cable?
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It seems that it uses 3.5mm headphone output,cause on mini usb are no cable attached
Mr.D - S said:
what about this ??
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=480899
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Believe me it will not be enough, I have to change a different USB Port and a little panel modification. Huh? Finally it's working but very slow.
kew1701 said:
It seems that it uses 3.5mm headphone output,cause on mini usb are no cable attached
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Absolutely correct. I try Nokia TV Out Cable,
How is that possible, i thought the X1 doesnt have the hardware for TV-out?
nurps said:
How is that possible, i thought the X1 doesnt have the hardware for TV-out?
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Our msm7200A/7201A support TV-Out, maybe HTC (that build our kovsky aka xperia x1) didn't want to give SE an advantage against his phone and did not connected 35mm to video out
We will need soldering? I love soldering
Ow what are you doin' so it can work, Big Bang Holic?
How could you do that??? Tell us please....hehehe...
any news?
i start to think, that tv-out still impassible on xperia x1
Erikazz said:
i start to think, that tv-out still impassible on xperia x1
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Yeah, the OP hasn't been here for over 2 weeks now.
And what exactly would be the purpose of TV out? The Movies that can be played smoothly on an Xperia X1 are of far to low quality to watch them on a tv screen. And for everything else I don't see the point.
http://www.engadget.com/2012/01/10/analogix-slim-port-technology-lets-you-connect-your-phone-to-you/
Sometimes, the simplest ideas are the best ones, and Analogix Slim Port technology certainly qualifies as both. It's a cabling solution that allows you to mirror what's on your phone or tablet's screen to your TV via microUSB -- instead of needing an extra HDMI or MHL port. Analogix's secret sauce is on a chip embedded in the jack portion of the cable and because it's based on DisplayPort technology, it can connect using HDMI, VGA, or DVI connections. Of course, as an OEM, Analogix won't be selling the cables when they go on sale this summer, but retailers like Belkin and BizLink will probably be put one in your bag for around $20 or $30 bucks.
-engadget
So now we can connect our beloved Play to that TV XD
I think it doesn't work like that... you have to have the tech on your phone (Mobility DisplayPort (MYDP) digital interface) it then allows uncompressed video/audio from a phone over display-port and also allows usb transfer modes
http://www.interconnectionworld.com/index/display/wire-news-display/1578435639.html
It won't work on the play
ff7fan4eva said:
I think it doesn't work like that... you have to have the tech on your phone (Mobility DisplayPort (MYDP) digital interface) it then allows uncompressed video/audio from a phone over display-port and also allows usb transfer modes
http://www.interconnectionworld.com/index/display/wire-news-display/1578435639.html
It won't work on the play
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i dont get you guys it clearly says it uses the MICRO USB port on the mobile device i mean how much more clearer need it be regardless ive sent an email to analogix and will tell u guys what they say
Why do we have two threads about the exact same thing I dont know
But i'll post the same thing I did over in the other one
Do you think that TV out is just going to magicly work when you plug in USB LOL
FYI your usb port is never outputting video lol. you would have to run some type of program to do it and that will use CPU power
When have you ever plugged usb into your PC and a message comes up "Would you like to mirror image on your screen?"
You guys know the PSP actually had software written for it that allowed USB mirror to desktop and it lagged the device so badly most games weren't playable anymore
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Why do we have two threads about the exact same thing I dont know
But i'll post the same thing I did over in the other one
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You do realize that PSP is less than 1/3rd the Xperia PLAY's overall capability, right?
PSP also couldn't handle any form of graphical MMOs.
TLRtheory said:
You do realize that PSP is less than 1/3rd the Xperia PLAY's overall capability, right?
PSP also couldn't handle any form of graphical MMOs.
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I wasnt aware of that fact
you got a source i can see for my own eyes? thanks
also my points is still valid. the device aint outputting video as it sits now
You guys know the PSP actually had software written for it that allowed USB mirror to desktop and it lagged the device so badly most games weren't playable anymore
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Thats because it used VNC. VNC lags on anything.
Hogwarts said:
I wasnt aware of that fact
you got a source i can see for my own eyes? thanks
also my points is still valid. the device aint outputting video as it sits now
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check the spec sheets. Also, notice that the Play has Dev units with HDMI out and they don't lag a little.
A bit off topic, but I don't think I ever posted this while I was analyzing the play for HDMI.
According to the kernel, the Dev plays have this chipset and all Plays have the drivers for it: http://www.analog.com/en/audiovideo-products/analoghdmidvi-interfaces/adv7520/products/product.html
And this can be seen on the Dell Streak: http://www.ifixit.com/Teardown/Dell-Streak-Teardown/3512/2
Now, I tore apart my Play (when I had it), and I can confirm that that chip is NOT on my retail r800i. This means that there is no "hidden" port or some unfilled solderpads that can be used to attach a microhdmi. There is NO support on the retail motherboard for it. You can't even buy the ADV7520 chip because there are no space on the retail motherboard for it.
There's no chip or hdmi port on the play I've watched dissasemblies of all types r800a,x,I
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There is a solution where you connect to a bluetooth HDMI dongle using your bluetooth and its specific app to stream phone content onto the screen, I think it was mentioned on Engadget but I cannot seem to find the link for it.
Logseman said:
check the spec sheets. Also, notice that the Play has Dev units with HDMI out and they don't lag a little.
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so your dev unit theory is irrelevant because our plays contain none of the architecture to run this setup with hdmi.
would have to find another solution.
Hogwarts said:
so your dev unit theory is irrelevant because our plays contain none of the architecture to run this setup with hdmi.
would have to find another solution.
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I don't have a theory, as I don't care one bit about TV output of any kind. However, you mentioned that the PSP wasn't powerful enough to beam out content, which is not a problem in the Xperia Play (or Arc and Neo for that matter).
Why do people keep saying "the play has no HDMI transmitter" if you read the OP, with this cable the HDMI transmitter is built into the jack, the device does not need one
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bubblegumballoon said:
Thats because it used VNC. VNC lags on anything.
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Pretty sure it didn't
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AndroHero said:
Why do people keep saying "the play has no HDMI transmitter" if you read the OP, with this cable the HDMI transmitter is built into the jack, the device does not need one
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FINALLY someone bothers to actually read the goddamed article
So the USB Device registers itself as.. what exactly ?
I mean, the play still has to send it's image to the dongle either way.
HearthC0re said:
So the USB Device registers itself as.. what exactly ?
I mean, the play still has to send it's image to the dongle either way.
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The adapter is probably accompanied with an app. Although the app would need root acces, atleast I think so.
whilst i think this would be an awesome piece of kit if it works as intended, im a little curious as to how it actually works, afaik the cpu sends its work to the gpu for output, the gpu processes it, and outputs it to the display....so how exactly does the usb port get the information from gpu...maybe easy with root access on one device...but making it work on a wide range of devices would be crazy hard.
im not gonna straight up bash this, because they have said its a vendor agnostic solution, so im assuming they have worked out some technical magic with no downsides to pull this off. I'm all for being proved wrong, i just want to see it in action.
TLRtheory said:
You do realize that PSP is less than 1/3rd the Xperia PLAY's overall capability, right?
PSP also couldn't handle any form of graphical MMOs.
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First statement is a bit overstated.
By capability the gpu in the PSP has a fillrate of 30 million polygons/s
I believe our Adreno has 52 mil/s
Plus instead of the capability I believe it was the limitation of USB speeds that affected the computer mirroring software.
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Hello devs,
Please look into enabling the displayport alt mode!!!
Its really frustrating how this phone cuts quality (480p) when used with a 4K TV. The only way is usb to hdmi cable, but sony decided to disable this feature.
Can you please make a tutorial on how to enable this?
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I have found this intresting information:
https://patchwork.kernel.org/patch/9195059/
It should be that easy as adding some lines of code?
Another intresting video:
https://www.ifixit.com/Guide/Sony+Xperia+XZ+Premium+USB+Port+Replacement/97361
From this video we know thatXZ premium has all the USB type c 3.1 pins connected to the motherboard and therefor to snapdragon 835 (5:07 in the video)
Also take a look at this:
https://cdn.arstechnica.net/wp-content/uploads/2015/01/type-c-pinout.png
Seems like the tx pins are responsible for Displayport alt mode
The good news is that they are soldered into the motherboard connector
Is it possible that the data pins have been disabled in kernel?
I look forward to this thing happening! (Although I'm waiting for a DRM backup method first)
as I said on the other thread, don't hold your breath, pins on a socket and PCB mean diddly squat.
Sony may very well disabled this or not even included supporting chips. I would strongly suggest if anyone wants to confirm this to find the same chipset on a different device with a working video out, then take a super high resolution photo of both sides of the PCB paying special attention to the numbers on the chips, then someone else do the same with the XZp
we will never be about to check the traces since it will be amulti layer PCB and we wont be able to check if any traces have been severed from a photo. but we will know if there are some supporting chips missing.
I disagree with you. Today chips are not just chips, are SOC.
Hardware is there. This tx prins are active for usb audio also, but not for video data transfer.
Sony hasn't implemented snapdragon 835 low cost version, because it does not exist. There are no other chips related to display port alt mode. It is done in Sd835. Simple as that.
Inerent said:
I disagree with you. Today chips are not just chips, are SOC.
Hardware is there. This tx prins are active for usb audio also, but not for video data transfer.
Sony hasn't implemented snapdragon 835 low cost version, because it does not exist. There are no other chips related to display port alt mode. It is done in Sd835. Simple as that.
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SoC have been used for a long time mate, trust me, if Sony didn't want something there are dozens of things they can do to stop it. Its been a problem with SoC vendors for decades. a physical connection means nothing if its traces are cut
Of course its perfectly possible its just software limited but its equally possible its not physically possible. The proof will of course be if you can get it working... but They have been doing this for years now and are getting pretty good at it.
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SoC have been used for a long time mate, trust me, if Sony didn't want something there are dozens of things they can do to stop it. Its been a problem with SoC vendors for decades. a physical connection means nothing if its traces are cut
Of course its perfectly possible its just software limited but its equally possible its not physically possible. The proof will of course be if you can get it working... but They have been doing this for years now and are getting pretty good at it.
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If you are so confident, then find out for your self, I would say.
You want me to prove that its broken or working? firstly I have no intention of putting any effort in to getting this to work, my device is perma locked and I really cant be arsed taking it apart and try to write over the ROM just to attempt to get this working.
Which leaves me with trying to prove its broken. as Ive said, multi layer PCBs will be impossible to check this without taking the device apart hell, ANY PCB will be impossible to check without checking each trace and that's not to say if QC hasn't used any fuses to blow certain circuits within the chips. If you get it working, then you will have your proof. all I'm saying is don't be surprised If it doesn't happen. it wont be the first time a manufacture has done this.
dazza9075 said:
You want me to prove that its broken or working? firstly I have no intention of putting any effort in to getting this to work, my device is perma locked and I really cant be arsed taking it apart and try to write over the ROM just to attempt to get this working.
Which leaves me with trying to prove its broken. as Ive said, multi layer PCBs will be impossible to check this without taking the device apart hell, ANY PCB will be impossible to check without checking each trace and that's not to say if QC hasn't used any fuses to blow certain circuits within the chips. If you get it working, then you will have your proof. all I'm saying is don't be surprised If it doesn't happen. it wont be the first time a manufacture has done this.
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Nobody will be surprised, don't worry. Just that we don't know doesn't mean that we shouldn't try.
Trust me, displayport alt mode is disabled in kernel.
Tx pins are active for usb audio playback!
It seems the display link hardware is our only choice for the moment...
https://forum.xda-developers.com/oneplus-5/accessories/usb-c-to-hdmi-adapter-t3631169/page8
Inerent said:
Trust me, displayport alt mode is disabled in kernel.
Tx pins are active for usb audio playback!
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Sorry bud, that doesn't mean anything more than USB Audio is connected...
Check this out! https://youtu.be/Ff9GfDpH42Q
Maybe some devs look into the buildprop and kernel of the s8 to search for relevant data and compare them with our xzp...
P. S. another proof that makes me think that this sh...t is disabled in software is that with the displaylink apk the one plus 5, xiaomi mi6, etc are working. The data is sent by Displaylink app to those TX usb pins and works!
So with an app it can be sent, but with our sony software not? C'mon!!! This is BS!
Inerent said:
Check this out! https://youtu.be/Ff9GfDpH42Q
Maybe some devs look into the buildprop and kernel of the s8 to search for relevant data and compare them with our xzp...
P. S. another proof that makes me think that this sh...t is disabled in software is that with the displaylink apk the one plus 5, xiaomi mi6, etc are working. The data is sent by Displaylink app to those TX usb pins and works!
So with an app it can be sent, but with our sony software not? C'mon!!! This is BS!
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your saying that the Displaylink APK works on the Sony Xperia XZp and on the Sony XZp, data is sent to the correct PINs on the USB-C out but it doesn't display anything? on a linked display?
Need help from rooted devices.
Please add or search in buildprop for ro.hdmi.enable=true
If it's present like this #ro.hdmi.enable=true, just delete the #
If it's not present, just add this line ro.hdmi.enable=true
Save and test only with usb-c 3.1 to hdmi and display port alt mode compatibile cable!
Let me know
Inerent said:
Need help from rooted devices.
Please add or search in buildprop for ro.hdmi.enable=true
If it's present like this #ro.hdmi.enable=true, just delete the #
If it's not present, just add this line ro.hdmi.enable=true
Save and test only with usb-c 3.1 to hdmi and display port alt mode compatibile cable!
Let me know
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yours not root-able?
Hi Dazza! Yes mine is not rooted ... yet! Enabling Display port is the final step towards rooting my phone.
For devs: BoardConfig.mk and BOARD_KERNEL_CMDLINE
Inerent said:
Need help from rooted devices.
Please add or search in buildprop for ro.hdmi.enable=true
If it's present like this #ro.hdmi.enable=true, just delete the #
If it's not present, just add this line ro.hdmi.enable=true
Save and test only with usb-c 3.1 to hdmi and display port alt mode compatibile cable!
Let me know
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I already tested but it didn't work.