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Taiwan getting Hero 2.1 in late April.

http://www.engadget.com/2010/03/26/htc-hero-update-to-android-2-1-on-april-26th-in-home-country-of/
Just from experience, markets across seas always get it first. Does that mean that it will be after April 26th before the Sprint Hero gets the 2.1 update?

i not surprised if this is true with sprint getting the nexus and the powerhouse is being left in the wind

If this is overseas, this could be 2 or 3 months till the sprint htc hero updates.
I told you to root and flash DamageCotrol v1...

energizer1389 said:
If this is overseas, this could be 2 or 3 months till the sprint htc hero updates.
I told you to root and flash DamageCotrol v1...
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Why so pessimistic?? I'm not sure if you guys are right or wrong, but the article DOES say we'd be getting it soon after, why so scared?
Besides...once Taiwan leaks the Hero ROM, won't that be the same as when they release it for our phones? Am I wrong or isn't the overseas Hero the same but with GSM? Shouldn't we be able to perfect the 2.1 ROMs with that? I mean that would be pretty damn close with having the Eris leak as well, I don't know but I just don't see why to be scared and why to not get excited to see the actual overseas leak.

pipskicks said:
Why so pessimistic?? I'm not sure if you guys are right or wrong, but the article DOES say we'd be getting it soon after, why so scared?
Besides...once Taiwan leaks the Hero ROM, won't that be the same as when they release it for our phones? Am I wrong or isn't the overseas Hero the same but with GSM? Shouldn't we be able to perfect the 2.1 ROMs with that? I mean that would be pretty damn close with having the Eris leak as well, I don't know but I just don't see why to be scared and why to not get excited to see the actual overseas leak.
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Because TODAY was our original speculation date. So after seeing this, it appears we have a month or more to wait. The biggest thing is that we havent been given a confirmed date and its getting tense.
Anyway, I just posted this for others to see something new.

Because TODAY was our original speculation date.
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Well....
Keyword-Speculation..
Stop speculating and you won't be upset...
It's not like 2.1 is going to bring an all new world, once it comes out we're just going to be inundated with well.. what now threads an hour after everyone updates..
Patience is a virtue...

didn't some self proclaimed "sprint employee" leak that date? (i've been looking, maybe they edited their original post)
But I'm going to take everything I read in the future from such sources with an extra grain of salt on top of the first. In other words... POIDH

A couple sites are saying April 9th (now), because Sprint is apparently issuing some network updates then,
http://phandroid.com/2010/03/25/rumor-sprint-htc-hero-getting-android-2-1-on-april-9th/
We'll see when it gets here

kbizzle said:
Because TODAY was our original speculation date. So after seeing this, it appears we have a month or more to wait. The biggest thing is that we havent been given a confirmed date and its getting tense.
Anyway, I just posted this for others to see something new.
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Start running the ROMs and I think you'll chill a lot more. Plus if ANY Hero gets updated, I bet the ROMs will be perfected a little more which is still something to look forward to.
I honestly have been on DC 1.0, and yeah not everything works, but then what will work with 2.1? Will we have LWP? The builds we have may even have more than the 2.1 Sprint will give us. I mean keeping LWP off our phones but on the Nexus still keeps a reason to make us upgrade. Which means we need to hack it

Listen guys, I didnt put any exclamation marks in any of my posts. I was just simply bringing up what I found for some discussion on peoples thoughts. I am currently running Fresh Toast 2.0c and completely happy with it. This isnt to start a battle about how pissed I am, just hadnt seen anyone post this little tid bit.

Sprint 1st said first half of the year, then updated to beginning of 2nd quarter, so between April 1st to May 14th. Want some advice? Stop putting so much stock on the rumors and wait for an official date. Sprint is notorious for terrible communication and missing dates so don't expect 2.1 sooner rather than later.
Yes this pisses me off too but it doesn't do any good getting worked up over rumors proving to be false. Personally, the spreading of rumors are more upsetting than the holdout for Sprint.

Jeez you guys cant read. I never said I was pissed off, I just wanted to discuss the date since there was a confirmed one in Taiwan. Im emailing a mod now to close this. FACK!!

Closed at OP's request.

An update about the 2.1 update...from an actual Sprint employee.

Just saw that training will begin on 04/19/10 for the 2.1 update. Memo also said due 5/9...
Sent from my HERO200 using the XDA mobile application powered by Tapatalk

Gotta give us something better than just a post.......saw so many of these.....

Confirmed!!
VIA Sprints Twitter --> Android users: We hear you re: 2.1 update; still on track for early Q2. Details as soon as avail. Many thanks for your continued patience.

I spoke to an official sprint employee unofficially about all of the unofficial sprint rumors about the offiicial update..
This sprint official, said that officially, he can't say officially when the official sprint update will begin to roll out.
However, he did say that unofficially, we will all know when the official sprint update is being rolled out. This will be the time when the official sprint words comes from the top sprint officials and is posted offiically by sprint.
He did say that offiically, any unofficial sprint rumor should not be relied on to be an official sprint update date. But unofficial sprint rumors may become official, only when officially made offiicial on their official update date.

Danokan said:
I spoke to an official sprint employee unofficially about all of the unofficial sprint rumors about the offiicial update..
This sprint official, said that officially, he can't say officially when the official sprint update will begin to roll out.
However, he did say that unofficially, we will all know when the official sprint update is being rolled out. This will be the time when the official sprint words comes from the top sprint officials and is posted offiically by sprint.
He did say that offiically, any unofficial sprint rumor should not be relied on to be an official sprint update date. But unofficial sprint rumors may become official, only when officially made offiicial on their official update date.
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lawl! x2

Danokan said:
I spoke to an official sprint employee unofficially about all of the unofficial sprint rumors about the offiicial update..
This sprint official, said that officially, he can't say officially when the official sprint update will begin to roll out.
However, he did say that unofficially, we will all know when the official sprint update is being rolled out. This will be the time when the official sprint words comes from the top sprint officials and is posted offiically by sprint.
He did say that offiically, any unofficial sprint rumor should not be relied on to be an official sprint update date. But unofficial sprint rumors may become official, only when officially made offiicial on their official update date.
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just puked alittle in my coffee and on my lap after reading that....lol

aauussttiinn88 said:
just puked alittle in my coffee and on my lap after reading that....lol
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Lol. Mmmm... Coffee.

LMAO! Mmmm... puke!

RavenII said:
Just saw that training will begin on 04/19/10 for the 2.1 update. Memo also said due 5/9...
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I think RavenII is saying that he is a Sprint Employee, and he personally saw the memo about the training and release
EDIT: If this is more hearsay, i will just put my foot in my mouth for bumping this thread...

my aunt's uncle's cousin brother's twice removed brother who works for sprint who knows guy that knows a guy .. said it was due pushed back to the 3rd tuesday of the 2nd week of next month

cocaine is ahelluva drug

LOL...
Keep It Confidential.. And then this.. lol..

Here!!!!
http://www.androidcentral.com/sprint-android-21-update-scheduled-early-may
There is proof for early may

lol @ training for a damn rom update

Who cares about the official release any more? We already essentially have a fully-functioning Sprint leak.

TheBiles said:
Who cares about the official release any more? We already essentially have a fully-functioning Sprint leak.
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How about Fresh Kitchen support for 2.1, Rom cooking? Otherwise I have nothing haha. These custom roms are great

It's training for the EVO as well, not just the 2.1 for the hero

A few of my friends work for Sprint and I asked them about the 2.1 update. Their response was "Dude it's my day off"

clamknuckle said:
It's training for the EVO as well, not just the 2.1 for the hero
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No its not... It's specifically for the 2.1 update.. To educate sales people of the selling points and cool features of the 2.1 update and how it is different from 1.5....
And I don't see why you guys think that its crazy to provide training to people that might not have the Android experience that you do, to give them tools to be able to effectively talk about the phone... What would you do if you went into a Sprint store and nobody knew what you were talking about when you said "2.1" or "android" or "market"...
If they don't train employees, how is Granny gonna figure out her new Hero, etc..
And as much as you think most people have at least a basic understanding of any of the variables that go into purchasing a phone, 75% have no idea..
I see it everyday, because I deal with those customers everyday...

azyouthinkeyeiz said:
No its not... It's specifically for the 2.1 update.. To educate sales people of the selling points and cool features of the 2.1 update and how it is different from 1.5....
And I don't see why you guys think that its crazy to provide training to people that might not have the Android experience that you do, to give them tools to be able to effectively talk about the phone... What would you do if you went into a Sprint store and nobody knew what you were talking about when you said "2.1" or "android" or "market"...
If they don't train employees, how is Granny gonna figure out her new Hero, etc..
And as much as you think most people have at least a basic understanding of any of the variables that go into purchasing a phone, 75% have no idea..
I see it everyday, because I deal with those customers everyday...
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Not to go way off topic here but Best Buy trains their employees too, I was at the register yesterday and did a price match from an ad online on my Hero browser and the cashier was a 70 year old grandma and she was swiping and knew how to work the Hero! She said something pretty funny to me also, "I would love one of those phones but they don't pay us enough!!!" LMAO! her manager was right there doing the price over-ride... Too funny. I was amazed that she knew how to use it, my granny still used an abacus!

Gingerbread? Already?

androidcodex.com/gingerbread-is-coming.html?utm_source=rss&utm_medium=rss&utm_campaign=gingerbread-is-coming

well, it was always destined to come out before the end of the year, whether the article is correct about the October date is anyones guess.

People have already learned their lesson with how long it took Froyo to come out...
I wouldn't expect Gingerbread any earlier than December with the time Google needs to keep updating it before eventually releasing it.

ap3604 said:
People have already learned their lesson with how long it took Froyo to come out...
I wouldn't expect Gingerbread any earlier than December with the time Google needs to keep updating it before eventually releasing it.
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Don't forget, Google did say that after Froyo they would begin a 6month till next update period, where updates wouldn't come out for 6 months. I figure June (when froyo was released) is 6 months from December so technically it still fits googles model.

It sucks how only specific phones are going to get the update

oO So SoL1D Oo said:
It sucks how only specific phones are going to get the update
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Who said that, obviously phones like the Hero isn't going to get it but who said only specific phones will?

Blueman101 said:
Who said that, obviously phones like the Hero isn't going to get it but who said only specific phones will?
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i think he meant older phones wont get it but that's understandable because 3.0 is said to bring GUI improvements which may need 1Ghz or above..
Gingerbread sounds delicious

The article repeats rumors knocked down by Dan Morrill
Re release date:
When will other Google products support WebM and VP8?
WebM support in Android is expected in the Gingerbread release (currently planned for Q4, 2010). We expect many other Google products to adopt WebM and VP8 as they prioritize it with their other product requirements. Keep an eye on the WebM blog for announcements.
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http://www.webmproject.org/about/faq/

actually they meant after gingerbread and its going to be yearly not 6 months

Well we might start seeing Gingerbread in October, but probably officially rolls out in December. Sounds about right.
Funny how the article lists phones which meet the requirements but neglect to include Google's Flagship Nexus One.
Currently there are only a handful of devices with these types of specifications, among them the Samsung Galaxy S and the HTC Desire.
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player911 said:
Well we might start seeing Gingerbread in October, but probably officially rolls out in December. Sounds about right.
Funny how the article lists phones which meet the requirements but neglect to include Google's Flagship Nexus One.
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Well those requirements are fake anyways, Google denied it directly, so I wouldn't care what phones they put in a list.

Hopefully October or sooner The Nexus should have no problem running it

Clarkster said:
Well those requirements are fake anyways, Google denied it directly, so I wouldn't care what phones they put in a list.
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*conspiracy*
Didn't they deny the Nexus One's existence also?
*/conspiracy*

samagon said:
*conspiracy*
Didn't they deny the Nexus One's existence also?
*/conspiracy*
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yeah but the difference is that the rumors originally came out of the blue and by someeone who had no sources or anything. Basically there are reliable as the world ending in 2012

Blueman101 said:
yeah but the difference is that the rumors originally came out of the blue and by someeone who had no sources or anything. Basically there are reliable as the world ending in 2012
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I offer the mayan's a bit more credit than that.

maybe they will be announcing something cool about gingerbread on august 12th?
http://gizmodo.com/5609571/whats-google-got-planned-for-august-12th

We won't see Gingerbread before December. I seriously doubt we'll see it this year. Likely January-February time frame.

Gingerbread coming today? It's still pinging

The big ol' unsourced, unconfirmed, who-knows-if-it's-true rumor of the past week or so has been that Android 2.3 -- Gingerbread -- will be announced/released/something today. It's just about lunchtime, and no sign of anything sweet yet -- though as you can see from the Google analytics above, it looks like it's still pinging around out there.
Will we see it today? Dunno. Will we see it tomorrow? Dunno. Are our fingers crossed? Absofrigginlutely.
http://www.androidcentral.com/gingerbread-coming-today-its-still-pinging
YES PLEASE !

I'm excited to see how it is, no fingers crossed since I'll be waiting for Sprint to push it .

Cyanogenmod will push it before sprint. Our evos are sense devices, so it will take htc some time to get sense on it and sprint.... luckily we have cyanogen

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Cyanogenmod will push it before sprint. Our evos are sense devices, so it will take htc some time to get sense on it and sprint.... luckily we have cyanogen
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This. Although I'm going to be conflicted between running Cyanogenmod with Android 2.3 but no 4G and the fact that a technician is coming to my work tomorrow to install a Sprint 4G repeater

Damn.... hopefully cyanogen will have 4g done by the time he compiles 2.3

Well I guess the new OTA update released today has something to do with it...
Posted from my EVO 4G running Azrael 2.4 with Dell Stage

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Well I guess the new OTA update released today has something to do with it...
Posted from my EVO 4G running Azrael 2.4 with Dell Stage
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new ota???

Remember the great modders here beat HTC to releasing 2.2 with sense here! I really wouldn't doubt they won't do it with 2.3 also.

I don't think it is coming out today. Wouldn't the employees release it during their normal shift hours 7-3 or whatever. That is just my thought lol I think they will release it tomorrow when apple releases their upgrades ios 4.2

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Remember the great modders here beat HTC to releasing 2.2 with sense here! I really wouldn't doubt they won't do it with 2.3 also.
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you wont see a 2.3 with "sense" for a while. HTC is too busy pushing the new "sense" out. U may get a 2.3 "sense" leak by Feb. or March.

Man i wish it came out yesterday :|. Well let's hope its well worth the wait.

oh well for that!! lol.
wouldve been nice if they at least gave us a teaser screenshot or a bit of information to hold us over.. dang..

I don't know why people always get so down on HTC so far they have been great with pushing updates. If an update is coming I don't think it will take 3 to 4 months. Some thought Froyo was going to take a long time too and we got it on a few weeks. If your going to speculate how about speculating that the cup is half full.

From watching all of the handset manufacturers out there HTC is by far and away the fastest to provide updates to their phones.
Samsung still doesn't have 2.2 and Motorola isn't that fast either.
Is there anywhere there is a guarantee that the EVO will be getting the next update?
My guess is yes mainly because it is still Sprint's best Android phone.

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My guess is yes mainly because it is still Sprint's best Android phone.
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It's THE BEST phone.
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Gingerbread Confimed

Hey, just ran across this little fact sheet from motorola, I know we have a leaked build hanging around too but here is something official.
http://mediacenter.motorola.com/Fact-Sheets/Motorola-ATRIX-4G-Fact-Sheet-353b.aspx

designgears said:
Hey, just ran across this little fact sheet from motorola, I know we have a leaked build hanging around too but here is something official.
http://mediacenter.motorola.com/Fact-Sheets/Motorola-ATRIX-4G-Fact-Sheet-353b.aspx
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good find. Lets hope they realize that 2.3 is a waste and to skip to 2.4 gingerbread with dual core capabilities

If they packaged it with a bootloader unlock they could make a lot of folks long time motorola users. I love everything else about my phone. Can live with it either way but I can dream
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What daveop said. As of now, I would totally be willing to go through switch carriers after this. This better be a worthwhile update (or updates, which ever is faster).

I wonder if it'll still be a Motoblur based update...

It doesn't make sense for motorola to remove blur. They actually advertised the "feature". If they remove it, lots of people will complain (not us, but we are on a different demographic)
So, don't get your hopes up, expect blur. And don't expect 2.4 either, we already know they are working on 2.3. 2.4 doesn't even have a release date yet people.

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I wonder if it'll still be a Motoblur based update...
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They would never just drop MotoBlur, they have probably spent a lot of time and money on it.
I just want an unlocked bootloader. The Dev's are better at maximizing the phone's potential than the manufacturers.

designgears said:
Hey, just ran across this little fact sheet from motorola, I know we have a leaked build hanging around too but here is something official.
http://mediacenter.motorola.com/Fact-Sheets/Motorola-ATRIX-4G-Fact-Sheet-353b.aspx
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Ok, someone has to be the pessimist and say it; what does "this year" mean?

jpasint said:
Ok, someone has to be the pessimist and say it; what does "this year" mean?
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Def, If we where in September I wouldn't mind but we could be waiting long. lol

jpasint said:
Ok, someone has to be the pessimist and say it; what does "this year" mean?
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"Later this year" = Don't hold your breath.

It just a holy crap.
Motorola never update

Holy crap. it says they will enable 1080p streaming in an update!
Maybe they will enable HDMI mirroring along with it

Hopefully by "Later this year", they don't mean December or so.

Realistically speaking if you want 2.4 on a phone, you will have to get one of the newest phones coming out - Galaxy S 2 etc. This phone wont see that until next summer at earliest.

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Hopefully by "Later this year", they don't mean December or so.
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Knowing moto, they're gonna wait as long as possible, so December 31st at 11:59pm.
However, if you live in Canada (like me), they'll give us a later date, then lie about it.
So for us it would be early q1 of 2012, but then at early q1 of 2012, the update still isn't given (this is what's happening with the milestone right now, it was suppose to get 2.2 at early q1 of 2011, and they still didn't give us 2.2, and early q1 is over already).

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good find. Lets hope they realize that 2.3 is a waste and to skip to 2.4 gingerbread with dual core capabilities
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Haha, where do people get this stuff? /sigh

I do hope it comes sooner for those who really want it.
Personally speaking, and this really is personal, I'm still getting used to using Froyo as the Atrix is my first smartphone. That isn't to say I don't want the update to come soon, of course. But at least there's plenty to play around with and learn up until that point.

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It just a holy crap.
Motorola never update
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well that's funny, considering that when you look at what manufacturers release updates, Motorola is #2, only behind HTC.
I'm also betting AT&T will get better about updating now that iphone exclusivity is gone. I think the captivate froyo update is soon if not already around, and the Aria is getting froyo soon too.

From what i understand motorola was one of the faster manufacturers to get out updates.....anything will be better than samsung....my captivate is just now getting official froyo and its not even 2.2.1
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Samsung's that bad, huh.
Yeah, from what I have read, Motorola's pretty good with their flagship devices. Comparatively of course.