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myTouch 3G without a data plan

I have been using my new mytouch without a data plan for about a week now. I had data when I activated the phone (didn't sign up for it, but was able to connect), but they have since blocked it. Everything works fine without a data plan except for one thing - MMS. MMS is not working for me now, and I suspect its because I don't have a data plan. I tried changing around APN settings, but haven't managed to find a combination that works. Anyone have any ideas on work around?

So that is weird because technically, without data, you should only get mms / sms and phone.

mms uses the data connection
MMS messages need the data connection to work. SMS messages should work without a data connection since they are transmitted over the signaling portion of the cell channel.
Without the data plan MMS will not work.

Why then did MMS work on my T-Mobile Dash without a data plan?

Dash was a different phone
Windows Mobile on the dash handled data differently than the android software, plus the network systems have been changed to recognize data phones and require the correct data plans.
The Dash was not supposed to get MMS without a data plan but it worked as long as you could connect to T-zones.

Wi-fi works but to get the most of this phone the $24.99 plan is required.

yea i had the same thing the data worked over 3g for about a day. u can buy the phone form walmart and u will not have to to get the 24.99 data plan i just told them i have it on another line.

So...you can have a PDA/Smartphone, and not get hit with the additional cost of a data plan. Is this where you'd need a "unlocked" phone?

mlpoland said:
So...you can have a PDA/Smartphone, and not get hit with the additional cost of a data plan. Is this where you'd need a "unlocked" phone?
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to view MMS without a data plan? No cuz an unlocked phone only allows you to use the phone with other carriers.

is there anyway to activate it without dataplan simcard....? with wifi same like g1

I think that myTouch "need" simcard with data plan to activate it. only wifi is impossible to activate.
However, I've another question. Is it possible to use this phone when I have no Internet conneciton (wifi/2G/3G)? I just need to use if for making a call.

yes. if your mytouch 3g is alrady activated (needs sim cardwith data plan for that), you can SMS and make phonecalls and check voicemail (visual voicemail does need data tho) without any data connection, just like normal cellphones.

OK folks. For those of you that missed it. The My Touch has to be activated using a sim card with a data plan attached. Once that is done, you don't need data. MMS on the MyTouch runs through the data portion of the network. Yot car root the phone, load up a different recovery image like Cyanogen or Amon ra's, and no more need to activate that handheld again. As for MMS, no fix for that. You have to have data to send an MMS. Large text, Picture, Or video messages will not work on a text package alone. A "large" text message is about 133 characters or more. Don't realy remember to well these days. The phone was designed around a data connection. Without it, you're gonna have issues.

Is there a List?
Is there a list of phones that MMS won't work or other features are disabled? The G1 used to not need data now T-mobile say's it does? so if I was to get a G1 without data is MMS gone? Curious about the Nokia nuron or nexus 1 is anything disabled without data?
I want to get a nice phone preferably with wifi but no data plan what is my best option a list of phones that work 100% without Data would be very cool...
Need to know my options so I can start trying to get a deal on the phone I select.
Thanks
Hurlamania

Das_mobile said:
Wi-fi works but to get the most of this phone the $24.99 plan is required.
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No not really. the $10 Unlimited web for phone data plan works. Just need to tweak around the apn settings.
I have also seen some forums that included that a 5.99$ Tzone data plan also work with mytouch 3g. However it is difficult to get that plan.

After activating and sim unlocking the phone, If I ever factory data reset, would I have to activate it again with a Tmobile sim card?

Now I am confused.
I have a MyTouch3g from t-mobile. I bought it used so I did not need to get the data plan to activate it, however, picture messages still work just fine for me, as do video. I would like to know why.

snyper5 said:
I have a MyTouch3g from t-mobile. I bought it used so I did not need to get the data plan to activate it, however, picture messages still work just fine for me, as do video. I would like to know why.
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Are you getting charged for data usage? AFAIK all MMS has to go over towers so that the carriers network can authenticate the phone they're are coming from, but I could be wrong.
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Incoming Phone during data connection

With my older phone, if I have a GPRS data connection, incoming voice calls will be rejected (busy). I was told it is the same with all phones.
Can HD2 make or accept a voice phone call when it has a GRPS connection? Or an HSPA connect? With the My Location, Weather, and Direct Push, I can neve tell when my phone has a data connection. Does it mean I may be missing calls all the time?

I have no problems with my telco. They will "downgrade" my data connection whenever a call is coming thru.

Nope - works fine for me. Will be using MSN and then a phone call will over ride it

alex fung said:
I was told it is the same with all phones.
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Somebody didn't know what they were talking about! You've been misinformed mate

alex fung said:
With my older phone, if I have a GPRS data connection, incoming voice calls will be rejected (busy). I was told it is the same with all phones.
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what phone would do that? You wouldn't happen to be with Verizon before, would you? My gf has a blackberry on verizon and whenever she's using the net incoming call would be rejected. I don't know any gsm phone would do that. I've had 5-6 GSM phones and they would allow incoming call and suspend your current web until the call ended.

Well, voice calls are made on a certain frequencies and data connections are made on others.
Ex: in my country the data connection is on the 1900/2100 freq, while the voice calls are on the rest.
So it should never be a problem. I believe its also the ability of the phone to use different freq for different tasks.

Thanks. I can now use the data connections without worry

Why not you try yourself. COnnect to data constantly and make a call to your number. What will happen...?

3G and GPRS/Edge won't block calls. But you can still use old fashion data-call. While I doubt any provider would provide data connectivity this way, I can't rule it out.

go-phone: mms on unlocked htc hd2 without using data

hey there i have another question, you see im using the NRG rom on my unlocked hd2 and i popped the prepaid/gophone att sim card in and it set everything up for me. so i could use edge to access the web and all that, and send mms messages. but since i dont want to use the data on the phone and just wifi, i turned data off , but then i cant send mms's , so i dont know if theres a way to like mess up the settings on the data settings so that it sends mms's without me having to use data. btw i have the unlimited text option that states i dont need a data plan to send mms's. thanks to anyone who can help.

windows mobile can only send mms over data!!!

my o2 sets two data connections, one for data and one for mms. If i just turn off all data, i cant send mms, but if i use something like 'dialup enabler/disabler' i can turn off one or both of these, hence i can turn off only the actual data connection and leave the mms connection on.

samsamuel said:
my o2 sets two data connections, one for data and one for mms. If i just turn off all data, i cant send mms, but if i use something like 'dialup enabler/disabler' i can turn off one or both of these, hence i can turn off only the actual data connection and leave the mms connection on.
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Yes, and tmobile (US) is the same way...you can use MMS (as long as it's on the plan) even if you don't have any other data provisioned on the line.
EDIT: barronedson, I would suggest calling AT&T and asking what settings you need when you want to send MMS without a data plan, if no other members here have any suggestions.

[Q] Will MMS work over WiFi?

If I'm on WiFi, will MMS use my data plan or wifi?

MMS goes through your texting plan on AT&T. It doesn't count as data usage.

vel0city1 said:
MMS goes through your texting plan on AT&T. It doesn't count as data usage.
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So it uses no data at all? Then why does it require data to send mms?

You don't need a data plan to send an MMS, but it needs a data connection to send the information because it still routes it over the 3G connection.
Because of the way it routes the MMS as opposed to regular web traffic, they track it and don't bill you for data usage even though it uses the data connection.
That's how it is with AT&T on a locked phone, but I don't know about other carriers or if you are using an unlocked device.

T-Mobile yes can over wifi
http://support.t-mobile.com/doc/tm24195.xml
Other carriers....I don't know

matrx10503 said:
T-Mobile yes can over wifi
http://support.t-mobile.com/doc/tm24195.xml
Other carriers....I don't know
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Yea and T-mobile supports wi-fi calling as well and At&t Does not.
Pretty sure it has to be a T-Mobile Device With Wi-Fi calling option in order for that o work...could be wrong though.

[Q] T-Mobile APN settings w/o data plan

Hey guys i just got a atrix 4g unlocked for tmobile running cm7. I do not have a data plan but i do have unlimited messaging. is there any apn setting out there that allows me to send and recieve just mms and no data other than that. how would i go about configuring my phone to do so? i would really appreciate the help. its really annoying having to toggle the data on and off whenever i recieve a picture message.

You could just call tmobilr and have them disable the data. Then no overage and no toggling every 10 seconds

so that wont shut off all my data? because i know you need to have data enabled on the phone in order to download the mms.

They wont charge you for data use on mms if you deny data at all. They will make the phone a calling/mms/SMS only then. Wifi would be your phones new friend.