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2.5 OTA update for G1 mid january

http://droidheaven.com/2009/12/12/g1-and-mytouch-3g-to-get-2-5-update-in-january/
just when i thought my g1 was getting out dated and they where going to stop giving us updates.
Even though our Devs are hard at work to get 2.0 and 2.1 working, and for the most part they are very quick and reliable but dont have a working camera unless htc gives us camera drivers we are screwed. but i came across this today and i now have hope. i was going to buy a nexus next month but now that its confirmed that we are getting a 2.5 OTA update i see no need in upgrading just wait until Cyanogen Drizzy or JAC (where are you MLIGN???)get a hold of this one
sorry mods if you think this doesnt belong PLZ move

is this for real?
I don't want to sound like a sceptic, but this sounds scetchy.

let me get this straight....
their new $500 phone is only gonna have 2.1 but the 'outdated' G1 will get 2.5....
....not a hope in hell of them doing that
i will eat my hat if we have 2.5 on the G1 before january is out....
hopefully my hat will taste good...id love this to be true....but its unlikely

Well.......
According to Eugene373 they have the camera drivers, but will not release them just yet...
Only a matter of time!

garok89 said:
let me get this straight....
their new $500 phone is only gonna have 2.1 but the 'outdated' G1 will get 2.5....
....not a hope in hell of them doing that
i will eat my hat if we have 2.5 on the G1 before january is out....
hopefully my hat will taste good...id love this to be true....but its unlikely
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If you have the new flavored hats, you might go back for seconds. I'm sure the G1's "2.5" will be 2.0 with flash if it even comes out.

Bit offtopic but isn't flash just an application, technically a browser addon?
It wouldn't need to be in a rom, just on the android market as "Flash" or included in an update to the browser application.

If you piece all the rumors and truly confirmed info from those that get the leaks, the G1 is getting an update sometime in January/February to 2.0/2.1/2.5... something with a 2 at the front. Wow! Such shocking news "confirmed" by an un-named "source" on a site that has also "confirmed" in the past we would be getting 2.0 then 2.1 and now 2.5.

I made a Post with the exact same topic so a mod please lock it/delete it.
The g1/mytouch is not getting android 2.5 it is getting 2.0/2.0.1
They got the mytouch version working but the damn unrooted g1 just doesn't have the space for it so we have to wait so they can slim it down.

johnt2k said:
http://droidheaven.com/2009/12/12/g1-and-mytouch-3g-to-get-2-5-update-in-january/
just when i thought my g1 was getting out dated and they where going to stop giving us updates.
Even though our Devs are hard at work to get 2.0 and 2.1 working, and for the most part they are very quick and reliable but dont have a working camera unless htc gives us camera drivers we are screwed. but i came across this today and i now have hope. i was going to buy a nexus next month but now that its confirmed that we are getting a 2.5 OTA update i see no need in upgrading just wait until Cyanogen Drizzy or JAC (where are you MLIGN???)get a hold of this one
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sounds like the cupcake rumor mill all over again...

I dont trust this one bit

2.5? What is that exactly?
Honestly, it's getting annoying to see specific releases of Android for specific phones (e.g., 2.0 for Droid, 2.1 for N1). It's almost like after 1.6, the releases started to become phone specific rather than generic.

JAguirre1231 said:
If you have the new flavored hats, you might go back for seconds. I'm sure the G1's "2.5" will be 2.0 with flash if it even comes out.
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Hopefully its Android 2.1 with Flash but ughh damn it I don't wanna wait! My hat is strawberry!

I am a Rep for T-mobile i would like to know where he got the info on that. thats the first i have heard of anything like that.

Murd3r3d said:
I am a Rep for T-mobile i would like to know where he got the info on that. thats the first i have heard of anything like that.
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So you guys will have a update for Mytouch 3G though?
Or will it get discontinued along with G1?

Murd3r3d said:
I am a Rep for T-mobile i would like to know where he got the info on that. thats the first i have heard of anything like that.
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And congratulations for violating streamline policy. Better hope your coach/senior doesnt see you tossing that around. I watched LOTS of people get fired for doing that back when I was a TMO FCR.

Murd3r3d said:
I am a Rep for T-mobile i would like to know where he got the info on that. thats the first i have heard of anything like that.
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And you won't be the first to hear of it either. I promise you, as hard as it is to believe, that HTC and TMO upper management are the first to know. Next up are leaks from devs for HTC to media. Then official confirmation from TMO to the media. Then, about a week after that, if not longer, reps are informed. Don't say otherwise, since some of us work in the business as well, likely for much longer, and have seen how this works.
Reps are always left in the dark until the very end. It is stupid, since reps deal with the public face to face and can make a selling point out of a bunch of the stuff that is kept in the dark, but it is the way it is.

2.5?!?! HAHAHAHAHAHHAHAHAAHHA!!! You gotta love rumors. The update coming out in January, if any update at all, will more then likely be 2.0 with or without flash. If it's that easy for people to post rumors regarding android, why doesn't someone post something regarding android 17.1 (wedding cake). It's the merge of iPhone & Android!!!! ROTF!

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And you won't be the first to hear of it either. I promise you, as hard as it is to believe, that HTC and TMO upper management are the first to know. Next up are leaks from devs for HTC to media. Then official confirmation from TMO to the media. Then, about a week after that, if not longer, reps are informed. Don't say otherwise, since some of us work in the business as well, likely for much longer, and have seen how this works.
Reps are always left in the dark until the very end. It is stupid, since reps deal with the public face to face and can make a selling point out of a bunch of the stuff that is kept in the dark, but it is the way it is.
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I agree 100%!!! I work for a cable provider, who will remain nameless, and we (reps) are always the last to know about anything. You have no idea how many times a customer called and informed me of a new process/website/service. It amazes me. The front-line associates are ALWAYS the last to know!

SG_Shadow said:
I agree 100%!!! I work for a cable provider, who will remain nameless, and we (reps) are always the last to know about anything. You have no idea how many times a customer called and informed me of a new process/website/service. It amazes me. The front-line associates are ALWAYS the last to know!
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Yeah, I work for a cell phone provider, and we get a launch email about a week before the phone launches. I usually know sooner because I am one of the testers for smart phones, but I don't even get all of them, and if I am not testing it I don't know anything until that email... plus, even as a tester, I only get about a 4 week heads up, which is about 2-3 months behind the management picking our phones.
Worst of all, when we do new promos/plans we get our launch info the day before and thus have about 18 hours to read and figure out the new promos, come up with a selling strategy and figure out what sort of customer it is right for.

lnjryan said:
sounds like the cupcake rumor mill all over again...
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Did you read the comments? "I just talked to a t-mobile rep. he said he never heard of the update and there is no documents.
But he did tell me that there is an update coming and it is coming quickly"

Given up on waiting for root..

Well, I hate to say this but I have given up waiting for root as an early leak user. I feel I have the right to post this due to 1, helping wherever I could, 2, contacting paul to even get the ball rolling after jcase mentioned him 3, offered donation for a solution etc...
I love my eris but see all the neat things I am missing out on. When the evo comes out, I will be jumping from pageplus to sprint... i am sure that will be rooted and if not... im still better off.
Thank you to all who have tried their best.. I think this is one instance where the phone beat us. I am annoyed that we do not have root as it allows us to better use our own phone.
anyway, best of luck to all...

Do not feed the troll...

seriously?? I have more posts than you and I am far from that... your comment is stupid.

joey3002 said:
Well, I hate to say this but I have given up waiting for root as an early leak user. I feel I have the right to post this due to 1, helping wherever I could, 2, contacting paul to even get the ball rolling after jcase mentioned him 3, offered donation for a solution etc...
I love my eris but see all the neat things I am missing out on. When the evo comes out, I will be jumping from pageplus to sprint... i am sure that will be rooted and if not... im still better off.
Thank you to all who have tried their best.. I think this is one instance where the phone beat us. I am annoyed that we do not have root as it allows us to better use our own phone.
anyway, best of luck to all...
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I dont blame you homie.. If I had not managed to get a second eris after I jumped on the leakv1, I would have gone nuts watching all the badass ROMS and hacks get released and have no way to use them.

Ok everyone can quit complaining about the 2.1 update! I just checked Verizon ERis Software Upgrade page and its announced that there is an update coming soon! I know theres no date but at least it is now finally up on their site. If you dont belive me check it out your self & for those who doubted it would ever come this just shows that paicence is a virtue.
support.vzw.com/information/droid_eris_upgrade
Check out both pdf files. The Benifits of Software link states all the updates for 2.1. Enough said?

Good riddance.

Whitepaint said:
I dont blame you homie.. If I had not managed to get a second eris after I jumped on the leakv1, I would have gone nuts watching all the badass ROMS and hacks get released and have no way to use them.
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exactly...
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Good riddance.
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suck it... what have you contributed?

Just short out the battery connection on the back of the phone with a small piece of aluminum foil, take it in to Verizon, explain how your phone just turned off and won't turn on and voila! You get a new phone the next day running stock 1.5, ready to be ROOTED!
That's what I did after installing the 2.1 leak and realized I couldn't get root. Let me tell you, my rooted Eris running Evil Eris v2.0 with the overclocked processor is far greater than my friends Moto Droid. I hope you make the right decision.

P.S. Don't be a bully.

There are always risks involved when upgrading a device, I learned that with the PSP and now other people are learning it with their Eris. Crying about it (in the wrong forum no less) is doing nothing to help.
A root will likely eventually be found, patience is the key. As soon as you just can't stand it anymore and upgrade/change device/etc you've potentially lost something forever.
One thing is for sure; I find it insulting that people feel they have a right to complain about being on leak, nobody held you down and forced you to flash anything.

Turnyface said:
Just short out the battery connection on the back of the phone with a small piece of aluminum foil, take it in to Verizon, explain how your phone just turned off and won't turn on and voila! You get a new phone the next day running stock 1.5, ready to be ROOTED!
That's what I did after installing the 2.1 leak and realized I couldn't get root. Let me tell you, my rooted Eris running Evil Eris v2.0 with the overclocked processor is far greater than my friends Moto Droid. I hope you make the right decision.
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It's not overclocked yet, it definitely doesnt do anything at the moment. And as far as shorting it out, I took mine into verizon complaining about the speakers all cutting out glitch and they didnt even look at the phone and swapped me out a new one in 10 minutes. It's not that hard really, just find someone in the store who looks like an idiot. All the smart people are in the back anyway.

Or You can not be a cheapskate and just Buy a new one..

or should I get a MOTO Droid or incredible but I still have my Eris with
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Marisa said:
There are always risks involved when upgrading a device, I learned that with the PSP and now other people are learning it with their Eris. Crying about it (in the wrong forum no less) is doing nothing to help.
A root will likely eventually be found, patience is the key. As soon as you just can't stand it anymore and upgrade/change device/etc you've potentially lost something forever.
One thing is for sure; I find it insulting that people feel they have a right to complain about being on leak, nobody held you down and forced you to flash anything.
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I second that ****!

Just Buy a Incredible Then Get Root Or Wait For It.

Cyostrife said:
Or You can not be a cheapskate and just Buy a new one..
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Not everyone has lots of money and buying a new eris outright is about 500 or so, used on ebay they go for over 300. speaking for myself I know I'd rather have the 3-500 to spend on bills and things then buying a new phone.

Even though I am kicking myself for not waiting a bit longer, I don't regret upgrading to any of the leaks. It gave me 2.1 months before everyone else. A little more patience never hurt anyone.

WalkingTaco said:
Not everyone has lots of money and buying a new eris outright is about 500 or so, used on ebay they go for over 300. speaking for myself I know I'd rather have the 3-500 to spend on bills and things then buying a new phone.
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Seconded. But this thread is useless. If you're tired of waiting on 2.1 leak root then get a new phone, try and get a replacement or just sit there and use the phone like it was meant to be. There's nothing wrong with 2.1 v3 in my opinion. Telling everyone you're leaving because of it is just asking to be trolled/flamed. I suggest a mod closes this thread or something.

Sheen160 said:
Seconded. But this thread is useless. If you're tired of waiting on 2.1 leak root then get a new phone, try and get a replacement or just sit there and use the phone like it was meant to be. There's nothing wrong with 2.1 v3 in my opinion. Telling everyone you're leaving because of it is just asking to be trolled/flamed. I suggest a mod closes this thread or something.
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Agree, 2.1 is so much better than 1.5. Plus, if you want to play with your phone and "customize it" a little there are home replacements in the market you can try. Helixlauncher is really good, and I just found one yesterday on android forums, real nice. It's called Zeam, http://www.mediafire.com/?jtzjyoklenk
Little to no lag and dialer is lightning fast.
So while you might not be rooted, it's nobody's fault that root hasn't been found yet or that you (op) flashed the leak. I want root too, but have the patience to wait for it to be found. There are some of the best devs on here working on it, only a matter of time.
~ happy 2.1 v3 leak user

my point wasnt i was unhappy with anyone here. I love 2.1v3 and yes, its leaps above 1.5
Just annoyed at what I am missing. I do not want this topic to be considered trollish..

Android 2.1 on iris before hero

Supposedly the eris is supposed to get android 2.1 tonight WTF man I mean I'm happy for them and all but what about us
http://androidandme.com/2010/05/news/droid-eris-owners-are-on-the-clock-for-android-2-1/

Blame Sprint. If you want to install 2.1 now, just root it. What a lot of people did.
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Been rooted since uhhhhhhhh hmmm like nov. Been running 2.1 long time ass well I just don't get how suddenly verizon one ups sprint again it's beginning to get old real fast

Idle observation:
What did Sprint do to itself? Verizon can push an 80+ MB file OTA, but Sprint can't manage more than 9 MB? It isn't a network limitation, or DCUpdater wouldn't be able to push updated ROMs, so what kind of insane throttling have they cursed themselves with?

In my opinion there just flat afraid something will go wrong with an ota update like that wasn't there a update to the instinct that bricked it if I'm not mistaken but nonetheless a companies gotta be willing to take chances if they wanna stay afloat especially in times like these

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In my opinion there just flat afraid something will go wrong with an ota update like that wasn't there a update to the instinct that bricked it if I'm not mistaken but nonetheless a companies gotta be willing to take chances if they wanna stay afloat especially in times like these
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I read some where sprints OTA can only do minor updates like 9 or 10mb. The reason DCupdater and all that can do it, cuz its downloading it from a hosted website, and its not updating the phone. Its just downloading a file, and you have to manually flash it through recovery.

bcnice20 said:
In my opinion there just flat afraid something will go wrong with an ota update like that wasn't there a update to the instinct that bricked it if I'm not mistaken but nonetheless a companies gotta be willing to take chances if they wanna stay afloat especially in times like these
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Sprint has a miniscule OTA update service. When I had the Instinct, an OTA actually DID brick my phone. Probably because it was 100mb or something. Sprint's OTA service can only handle maintenance releases, we need to get 2.1 OTW.

Some of the firmware releases for the Palm Pre have clocked in at over 100 megabytes and they have delivered as OTA updates on Sprint's network several times.
Why are we taking the word of a discredited supposed Sprint employee as gospel as far as this "9 megabyte limit" is concerned when actual evidence demonstrates that it isn't true?

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Blame Sprint. If you want to install 2.1 now, just root it. What a lot of people did.
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yes but again the 2.1 we have is NOT final.

Sawawa said:
Some of the firmware releases for the Palm Pre have clocked in at over 100 megabytes and they have delivered as OTA updates on Sprint's network several times.
Why are we taking the word of a discredited supposed Sprint employee as gospel as far as this "9 megabyte limit" is concerned when actual evidence demonstrates that it isn't true?
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Well, if I remember correctly (I had a Palm Pre for a short period of time before I switched to the Hero), much like Google does with the Nexus One, Palm was the one that actually handled the OTA updates. So again, used the Sprint network, but it was Palm's servers supplying the update. If they had any fear of "bricking" the Pre, I guess they were prepared to place the blame on Palm if necessary.

Android 2.2 coming to the full myTouch 3G range

The whole Mytouch line getting Froyo Pretty soon T-mobile legit news.
I wandering how soon is soon lol they keep saying soon.
Check out the link even has a pamphlet.
http://mobile.engadget.com/2010/06/10/android-2-2-coming-to-the-full-mytouch-3g-range/

Bunch of **** teases thats all they are

"A modified version of the Faves Gallery"......oh joy, now everyone can 'enjoy' that stellar feature!

well, I have heard that it would have Froyo before launch date, that didn't happen. I heard it would be this week (with one day left is possible but not probable). I just saw in another post it would be next week (don't hold your breath). Some reports say by the end of the year. I am inclined to believe it will happen but we will not know when until we get it all of a sudden. Just my thoughts.

from our friend chief:
ChiefzReloaded
T-Mobile training was today in store for managers... froyo for mt3g and slide will start rolling out next week.... just fyi

hopefully with an updated sms app, So the normal mytouch is going to get all the sense crap too?

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hopefully with an updated sms app, So the normal mytouch is going to get all the sense crap too?
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Froyo is the Android base, not necessarily the UI

"...no phone left behind"
My cliq just rolled over in its grave is gave tmo the finger.

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"...no phone left behind"
My cliq just rolled over in its grave is gave tmo the finger.
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"No phone left behind no matter how long we make the Cliq guys wait! Oh... and let's just brush the Behold under the carpet and hope nobody notices that one."

This is likely what the big June 19th event was all about.

They say that is a Father's Day special on tmonews.com. Free phone with a family plan or something. I hope its really a froyo update. Either way if we get root soon... we can update now. well, when its ported. and with sense ui, that will be no easy task. Of course, they could port the desire rom.

I wonder how they could roll out FroYo for us next week when the Nexus doesn't even have it's OTA yet?
Unless Google is purposely waiting to do the OTA on the Nexus at the same time as the MyTouch line? Trying to even the playing field a bit?

chrisinaz said:
I wonder how they could roll out FroYo for us next week when the Nexus doesn't even have it's OTA yet?
Unless Google is purposely waiting to do the OTA on the Nexus at the same time as the MyTouch line? Trying to even the playing field a bit?
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Google has to mod the 2.2 AOSP code just like everyone else does for their devices. All the OHA members are privy to the latest code equally.
The reason the nexus got an update so far ahead last time appears to be that other other companies didn't appear to care about updating the phones. Now that they have google pushing updates so quickly to their own phone, they are making other phones look lame by having to wait so long for updates.

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Google has to mod the 2.2 AOSP code just like everyone else does for their devices. All the OHA members are privy to the latest code equally.
The reason the nexus got an update so far ahead last time appears to be that other other companies didn't appear to care about updating the phones. Now that they have google pushing updates so quickly to their own phone, they are making other phones look lame by having to wait so long for updates.
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Interesting theory. I guess there could be several theories behind it as well. I'll play devil's advocate here and say that maybe now, Google has decided not to update the Nexus as quickly either to allow the other devices to catch up, or because they simply don't care anymore (since they aren't selling it directly anymore).
Thoughts?

why would t-mobile open at 8am for an android update?.........

All I have to say is, froyo is going to rock on this slide.

as long as the bloatware they put in the slide will be gone... hate all the crap... >.< want root so i can get rid of the stupid programs that are useless!

Yeah apps2sd and tether will be nice for an unrooted phone. I think it is a little odd that the tmo stuff cannot be removed seeing as this phone is supposed to be "100% you" ...

NJAZ said:
Yeah apps2sd and tether will be nice for an unrooted phone. I think it is a little odd that the tmo stuff cannot be removed seeing as this phone is supposed to be "100% you" ...
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Hahahha! Exactly what I was thinking... yeah, It should have been removable. I got about 20MB by using factory data reset. All it did was erase some wallpapers and other minor, useless crap. I cant wait until the devs root this baby. Ive got like 20mb left on internal storage. sucks...
I would bet we dont see froyo unitl late summer or fall. HTC has to update sense ui for froyo, plus then the wait on tmobile. I would guess that the MT3G will get a froyo ota before we do.

Oh God... I just had a SCARY thought! What if tmobile doesnt include A2SD on their version of 2.2?! They sure did screw us on the live wallpapers for 2.1 on the MTS. Maybe that was just because of the sense ui. I mean it does animate the weather as a live wallpaper, sort of...

Finally our own forum... Who's Getting one?

No brainer for me really, unless something truly revolutionary comes out of MWC (and you never know, HTC hasn't announced anything Tegra based yet and I am sure they will) then this is the phone that will finally make me ditch my Hero.
Anyone else as impressed as I was (and more importantly still impressed now the dust has settled?)
EDIT: Obviously I will be plumping for the 3G GSM version as our useless networks can't even do 3G coverage properly, let alone 4G

If it is released on vodafone UK then yeah if not no all the other networks suck. I'll just stick with my galaxy s.

I really like the look of it, butI am dubiuos to how good the webtop will be. What would be interesting if, we managed to pehaps mod it to be more of a full version of linux, pehaps ubuntu with a terminal

Think im still going to wait and see what samsung has up its sleeve with the next galaxy s, but i doubt its going to be released as quickly as the atrix so i might just jump ship to moto. Im sick of the stuttering/lag on my captivate.

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Think im still going to wait and see what samsung has up its sleeve with the next galaxy s, but i doubt its going to be released as quickly as the atrix so i might just jump ship to moto. Im sick of the stuttering/lag on my captivate.
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It looks like my next upgrade, too. I was looking at buying a Revo to stream media to my upstairs TV, but this will do the trick perfectly!
Now I just need it to be a cheap upgrade with vodafone after April and I'm sorted

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I really like the look of it, butI am dubiuos to how good the webtop will be. What would be interesting if, we managed to pehaps mod it to be more of a full version of linux, pehaps ubuntu with a terminal
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yea, I'm definitely hoping the brilliant minds of the people here at xda will get ubuntu running rather than that custom webtop software.

Definitely getting one! Heres to hoping that the bootloader is unlocked. Oh please let it by unlocked!!

going to try to get from At&t without a contract on launch day.
don't want to give up my unlimited data plan
please motorola do something similar to HTC for the bootloader
fastboot oem unlock
please please please

I've got 2 upgrades saved up 2 of them on launch day for me! 1 to sell, 1 to play with

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yea, I'm definitely hoping the brilliant minds of the people here at xda will get ubuntu running rather than that custom webtop software.
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OMG if this could happen I would be so stoked! I can't wait to get mine + laptop dock!

If the price is reasonable!

jchap2k said:
OMG if this could happen I would be so stoked! I can't wait to get mine + laptop dock!
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Yup, I'll definitely also be rockin' it with the laptop dock!

Unlocked bootloader = instapurchase

I'm gunna be getting one when upgrade come around and I hope they could mod webtop to ubuntu or put the ubuntu webtop feature(if achieved) in a ROM like CM7

You can put a check by my name, im getting one xD.
One question i have one of the old 5gb data plans, if i use an upgrade to get this phone will they force me to change my data plan?

I'd love to get one, but I'm on Sprint. To be honest, I think this is the best Android phone out there right now

If the price is reasonable and HTC doesn't come up with something similarly amazing in the mean time i'm certain to get one.

There's several things that give me pause about buying this phone.
1) AT&T. The probability of getting Android system updates seems low.
2) Motoblur. Hate it.
3) Locked bootloader.

1010011010 said:
There's several things that give me pause about buying this phone.
1) AT&T. The probably of getting Android system updates seems low.
2) Motoblur. Hate it.
3) Locked bootloader.
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I will go in reverse order....
3. You are aware ALL bootloaders are locked right? minus n1 & other dev phones. This phone will be rooted...
2. Look to #3.
1. Look to #3

I am going to wait until the Summer to pick one of these bad boys up. That should give the dev community time to get the ball rolling with this device.