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Seek advice on NO BOOTLOAD Screen

My MDA was unable to get back to bootload after a unsuccessful ROM upgrading. Is it possible to replace the ROM (hardware) so that I can save my MDA?
I tried the Power on key and softreset to reset it but only return to a messive screen.
Pls help. Thanks

cris...
you dont need to replace the hardware rom!!
try runing the upgrade program again, it sometimes picks up where it left off. if that dont work, try the SD card method.
i'd go into more details, but all that info is here in these forums already.
if u still need help though, contact me, and i'll try to help you.
good luck

Dear Ntabikha,
Thanks v much!
However, I tried the upgrade program many times and the decktop just said the computer cannot recognise the device.
So, I think method 1 is not possible.
For method two, I will try to put the nk.nbf file into my SD card and put it in the device and see whether the MDA can pick up the ROM. Will let you know whether it is successful.
BTW, when the screen is on, it only appears some fuzzy horizontal lines and two small empty boxes, have you seen this before?
Chris

yes, i had the same fuzzy lines. i fixed That problem via the SD card method.
just remember that, you have to write the nbf file to SD card, not just copy it to SD card
dont laugh, i did that mistake at first
good luck

How can I "write" it to the card?
I thought I only copy the file to the card through a SD reader.
Well, I know now, use rom kitchen to cook the rom and use osimagetool to copy the nb1 file into a sd card.
All i need to do next is to insert into the MDA and press power button together with softreset key for several times until successful....

Dear ntabikha,
I am still unable to obtain the bootloading screen of my MDA after inserting the SD with nb1 file written by xdatool. I tried many times power button and soft reset simultaneously (more than 20times) and the screen are still full of messy lines and 2 big empty boxes.
Can you help please? What is the fix broken bootloader in the xdatool?
I really did search around the forum but still can't be able to get back the bootloader screen. Pls help.
Chris

ntabikha said:
yes, i had the same fuzzy lines. i fixed That problem via the SD card method.
just remember that, you have to write the nbf file to SD card, not just copy it to SD card
dont laugh, i did that mistake at first
good luck
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I'm wondering if you could not see bootloading screen , how could you use SD card to restore OS and bootloader ?

No, there is no bootloading screen at all.
I took the MDA out to a repair shop and they said that is a hardware failure. And they don't have the stock to replace it.
But I don't believe that cause I was just downloading the OS. It shouldn't hurt the hardware that much.....

chris_khho said:
BTW, when the screen is on, it only appears some fuzzy horizontal lines and two small empty boxes, have you seen this before?
Chris
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I fixed couple such phones "horizontal lines and two small empty boxes" due to failure upgrading (all flash ROM messed up).
You have to use hardware flash ROM writer to wire the flash ROM pin to write bootloader and CE directly to chip.
I can help you to fix the problem (I'm in Canada, my email is [email protected])

Hi, I have similar trouble. My boss upgrade his MDA TMO (Austria) to official TMO version of OS and now it coming only to splash screen. MDA doesn't sync through cradle, doesn't seems to be charged, and I cannot enter BOOT mode for flashing ROM from SD card.
Is there any chance to fix it by myself?
Thanx, Ivan
TO CGIGATE: If you have any solution, can you post it here? Or it is so dangerous for nonexpert people? :wink:

Ivan said:
Hi, I have similar trouble. My boss upgrade his MDA TMO (Austria) to official TMO version of OS and now it coming only to splash screen. MDA doesn't sync through cradle, doesn't seems to be charged, and I cannot enter BOOT mode for flashing ROM from SD card.
Is there any chance to fix it by myself?
Thanx, Ivan
TO CGIGATE: If you have any solution, can you post it here? Or it is so dangerous for nonexpert people? :wink:
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If you don't have a working OS and a working bootloader, the only solution is hardware solution. You have to wire the flash chip directly to the flash ROM writer ...
yes, it is dangerous for nonexpert people

Thank you CGIGATE for quick answer. Anyway I wrote you an email, could you be so kind and send me informations how I can do that, or where I can find these steps?[/quote]

Stuck in bootloader after failed flash

Hi, got some problems with one of my employes Herald (not simlocked or anything).
It ended up on my desk after complaints about it rebooting by itself every minute or so. I figured I could sort it out by upgrading to wm6. Wen to HTCs website and downloaded the official RUU (HTC_P4350_SVE_4.17.413.2_4.1.13.44_02.94.90_Ship.exe). Everything went along fine and I left it upgrading on my desk and went for lunch.
When I got back it said that the update had failed and I followed the recover function but without success.
Now Im stuck in bootloader mode, and when I try to update it again the current image version is listed as blank and I get to about 1-2 percent before it shuts down and gives "ERROR [244]: INVALID MODEL ID".
Any suggestions on what to do?

Further information...
IPL 4.17.0001
SPL 4.17.0000
When i do a hard reset, after it says format complete it boots up and freezes with a green gradient across the screen.

You can try using USPL or HARDSPL to flash.
The USPL will get around CID locks
This is from ivan's A Herald's Guide to Flashing Aserg, USPL and HARD-SPL - xda-developers
II. How do I flash an NBH file?
Warning: To use the NBH ways, you MUST have a SPL of 4.0 or higher. If you have a lower SPL, you WILL brick your phone.
a. USPL
Step 1. Download Herald-USPL-Beta3.
Step 2. UnZIP the file into a folder on your Desktop. Let's call it "MyFirstROM" for simplicity's sake. Notice that there is a folder called RUU within this folder now. Keep that in mind.
Step 3. Download your NBH file and unZIP or unRAR it into that RUU folder. Make sure that that NBH file ends up in the RUU folder, not within a folder inside the RUU folder.
Step 4. Place your phone into flightmode.
Step 5. Go back to the MyFirstROM folder and then run USPL.exe
Step 6. Follow the directions on the screen. EXACTLY.
Your screen on your cell phone will go white around the 75% part of the "second step" now.
ActiveSync will LOOSE its connection.
Step 7. One step 3 on that black window, the RUU flasher will pop up. Just follow the steps.
That's it. Welcome to the flasher's world.

Thanks for the reply,
First, I cant get activesync to find the phone, only evidence of contact in between the phone and PC is that its listed as [Windows CE USB Devices+PocketPC USB Sync] in device manager. I tried to uspl flash with ASERG.8, and it stops at "STEP 1/3...."
I downloaded mtty to see if it could connect, and it did.
Any further suggestions on what might work!

uninstall..reset.. clean install would probably get activesync to work w the phone..

Reinstalled activesync without any change. And soft/hard reseted everything…
Tried to flash via sd as per instructions in another thread, got to "checking SD contents" and then straight to triple-color bootloader.
Help me please! ;D

Cant help getting the feeling that Im completely screwed...
Cant get activesync to recognize it, only way to get it to light up is via bootloader (camera + reset button), everything ive tried to flash it with hangs almost instantly.
As a complete novice my guess is that the current rom is corrupted and I badly need advice on how to go on. The sd-flash seems quite logical but I cant get it to work. Ive tried to overwrite my sd with 00-values in winhex and then placing the original ruu [HERAIMG.nbh] (through windows, is there a way to write data with winhex?) on the card without any success.
Any suggestions on what to try is much appreciated.

Sounds like the SPL got corrupted or partially written only... sorry. Repair center time. You can also placing your Stock RUU's nbh file into your SD card and renaming it to... umm.. I forget... and then flashing FROM the phone.

facdemol said:
You can't simply place the rom file to the card and hope the device will read it in this way. In my time working for pda service, we used WINHex to format the card (to RAW-unformatted) and then we wrote the rom file in RAW format to the card. Your card looks like an endless stream of hexazecimal values. Only winhex recognises this format, if you insert the card to the computer, it will simply ask you to format it. After inserting this card into the pda, it will start the upgrade . The order of this operation was, as I remember, to fill the card with 0000 values (there is an option in WINHex, a kind of format) then write the rom file to the card in RAW mode. Then insert the card to the device.
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Thanks for the reply, before giving up and sending it in for repair I would like to give the sd-flash a proper try... So far Ive managed to format the card with winhex but I cant really figure out how to write to the card in raw format. Could anyone point me in the right direction?

i managed to do the steps said above ... formated the card in RAW format etc but still the phone won't turn on ... it will only stay in bootloader ...

diabolic53 said:
i managed to do the steps said above ... formated the card in RAW format etc but still the phone won't turn on ... it will only stay in bootloader ...
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Care to enlighten me on how you did that?

I've been reading a lot lately.. I wonder if the phones are savageble... something about flashing but bypassing the radio check... Also, the universal has an RUU that bypasses any checks before it flashes... this would be great for us to have... I'm asking around...

g4rwin said:
Care to enlighten me on how you did that?
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whell i opened the mem card with winhex filled all the blocks with 00 and then i opened the nbf file also with winhex and copied the content in hex format on to the card ....but still no success ..

ivanmmj said:
I've been reading a lot lately.. I wonder if the phones are savageble... something about flashing but bypassing the radio check... Also, the universal has an RUU that bypasses any checks before it flashes... this would be great for us to have... I'm asking around...
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if you find it please tell us about it cos a lot of phones are getting bricked ...

If I'm correct, you told us a few post above thisone you placed your SD card with the imghera.nbh and got "checking sd conents" and then it went to bootloader.
As far as i can recall you need to get your Herald into bootloader first and then place your SD card with the IMGHERA.nbh file on it. Then it should start reading the image from, your SD card.
Judging from your first post you haven't been using the asigned RUU from the HTC website if this was your first rom flash to WM6 and you got a vendor error. Try to convert and use that one when you flash from sd card.

jappo01 said:
If I'm correct, you told us a few post above thisone you placed your SD card with the imghera.nbh and got "checking sd conents" and then it went to bootloader.
As far as i can recall you need to get your Herald into bootloader first and then place your SD card with the IMGHERA.nbh file on it. Then it should start reading the image from, your SD card.
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Ive tried all possible ways, if I pop the sd card in while already in bootloader, nothing happens at all.
jappo01 said:
Judging from your first post you haven't been using the asigned RUU from the HTC website if this was your first rom flash to WM6 and you got a vendor error. Try to convert and use that one when you flash from sd card.
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Ive been trying to flash with the WM6 RUU I downloaded from HTC's site (the one that bricked it) since that is the only local (swedish) and official one I could find. Have I misinterpreted it all and the only thing that could do the trick for me is WM5.1?
Ive also been trying to contact the HTC service dept for over a weeks time ending up in a deadend overfilled voicemailbox - meanwhile my warrantyperiod ran out... Any suggestion on what to do?

duprade said:
You can try using USPL or HARDSPL to flash.
The USPL will get around CID locks
This is from ivan's A Herald's Guide to Flashing Aserg, USPL and HARD-SPL - xda-developers
II. How do I flash an NBH file?
Warning: To use the NBH ways, you MUST have a SPL of 4.0 or higher. If you have a lower SPL, you WILL brick your phone.
a. USPL
Step 1. Download Herald-USPL-Beta3.
Step 2. UnZIP the file into a folder on your Desktop. Let's call it "MyFirstROM" for simplicity's sake. Notice that there is a folder called RUU within this folder now. Keep that in mind.
Step 3. Download your NBH file and unZIP or unRAR it into that RUU folder. Make sure that that NBH file ends up in the RUU folder, not within a folder inside the RUU folder.
Step 4. Place your phone into flightmode.
Step 5. Go back to the MyFirstROM folder and then run USPL.exe
Step 6. Follow the directions on the screen. EXACTLY.
Your screen on your cell phone will go white around the 75% part of the "second step" now.
ActiveSync will LOOSE its connection.
Step 7. One step 3 on that black window, the RUU flasher will pop up. Just follow the steps.
That's it. Welcome to the flasher's world.
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Hi I try tu patch IPL/SPL with hard spl but with error, now my herald stuck in boot mode. IPL/SPL 1.09.0001. He probbably is from some russia operator (rusian diacritics on keyboard).
How can I try to make him alive?

HD2 with T-Mobile brandet HELPPP!!!

I am stuck at to power on the device with vol down pressed.
All I got is the tri-color bootloader screen and the "00028002 NOT ALLOW" message and than starts the tri-color no menu to flash if I fry with the load file from device...If I use the .exe file with the new room I get the tri-color than the "00028002 NOT ALLOW" ant the flush starts till 1% and after that.....T-mobile mist is starting again.
Here the link's that I followed:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=591314
http://www.handy-faq.de/forum/htc_hd...e_aendern.html
Please help me with your suggestions what can I do or if a HSPL is on the was as for the HD Blackstone.
Still looks that I need your help MASTARS!!!...Thanks mates.

Hi, there is a mistake in the manual. For a hardreset you have to press volup and voldown together and than press the power button.

HD2 T-Mobile brandet
I have follow your suggestions...I get the manufactury restore message and the unit is loading the original T-Mobile image....I am stuck...
Please help

sounds like your trying to flash the device with another ROM, if so do a search for leo gold card this will allow you to flash original htc ROMs only until hard spl is finished.

HD2 T-Mobile brandet
You are right...I have purchased this unit (over 600 Euro) and I needed in English.
I have done the Gold card procedure with two different micro-SD cards and still no success...now I am powerless and really mad...what is the next step???
I hope that this issue can be solved only with your help MASTERS OF HTC Phones

What problem do you have with the micro-sd ? what about formatting the sd-card, have you done it in the quick modus or in the normal mode ? And why did you read a german discription, when you're from canada ?

HD2 T-Mobile brandet
HIPP HIPP HUREYYYYY
Is done.
please follow the usual instruction on this link....plus ...IMPORTANT, pay attention also to this steps listed below
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=591314
Format SD card from within WinMo
Place LEOIMG.NBH on the SD card
Read CID with QMAT
Request GoldCard.img with CID, I believe I did not change the first 2 numbers
Write the goldcard to the SD, by having ActiveSync active, and "Write Image" in QMAT.
Reboot to boot-loader by Volume down and power button ate the same time
Reconnect your HD2 to your PC start active sync and run the new room extracted locally on your PC (bubble click on "ROMUpdateUtility.exe" and also do not forget that on this package the "LEOIMG.nbh" is also there renamed form original format.
Many thanks to all of you working to solve our dummies problems.
I wish you also success to get the HSPL soon up and running..
Best regards

tomtom140 said:
HIPP HIPP HUREYYYYY
Is done.
please follow the usual instruction on this link....plus ...IMPORTANT, pay attention also to this steps listed below
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=591314
Format SD card from within WinMo
Place LEOIMG.NBH on the SD card
Read CID with QMAT
Request GoldCard.img with CID, I believe I did not change the first 2 numbers
Write the goldcard to the SD, by having ActiveSync active, and "Write Image" in QMAT.
Reboot to boot-loader by Volume down and power button ate the same time
Reconnect your HD2 to your PC start active sync and run the new room extracted locally on your PC (bubble click on "ROMUpdateUtility.exe" and also do not forget that on this package the "LEOIMG.nbh" is also there renamed form original format.
Many thanks to all of you working to solve our dummies problems.
I wish you also success to get the HSPL soon up and running..
Best regards
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did you have to rename the signedRUU.NBH to LEOIMG.nbh when flash from PC?

HD2 T-mobile brand
Yes ...I have renamed the signedRUU.NBH to LEOIMG.nbh
Still ..I must say that after testing all day I was not taking the chance to go with the original signedRUU.NBH...so I have renamed the file

u mean ur device starts at the first image?
use gold card?
brick?
have u flash another official rom before?

HD2
I have flush many official rooms on HD blackstone
I have follow all steps in my link ...plus I had to go with the steps posted previous in order to flush my T-Mobile branded unit.
Yes I had to use the gold card as in description plus the registry ending from 2 to 1
bqwd36 said:
u mean ur device starts at the first image?
use gold card?
brick?
have u flash another official rom before?
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help me to save my herald

When i put on my Herald stop in bootloader.....
When i try to flash from SD, my Herald says:
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Checking SD Contents
Invalid Certificate
Press Any key to continue
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What happened?
how to solve?
I can not even with RUU
ilp 1.08.0001
spl 1.08.0001
Help me!!!

1.Connect the pc and download original rom.
2.Run RUU on your pc and flashig phone
other
1. download original rom
2. unpack the original shipped rom (winrar)
3. extracking ruu_signed.nbh
4. rename ruu_signed.nbh to heraimg.nbh
5. format storage card winth fat32
6. copy heraimg.nbh
7. insert the card in pda and run in bootloader mode

I have a few things for you to consider. The first is your IPL and SPL numbers. Your numbers are 1.08.xxxx You should start by searching for a safe method for flashing your phone based on such a low IPL (if there even is a method). From what I understand, in order to flash these custom roms you MUST be HardSPL'd.
Click here for PDF instructions
If you do not have an IPL of 4.xx.xxxx or higher then you cannot HardSPL your herald.
I assume that because you are not HardSPL'd with the security fix not in place you are unable to flash anything other than a stock rom. My suggestion is to look for an OEM or stock rom update that can hopefully get you to a higher IPL/SPL number. I know that my service provider (t-mobile) has a download available for the wing so look into that first.
Hopefully another member can clarify if you can or cannot flash a custom rom with an IPL as low as yours. I hope this helps in some way. Good luck.
-Dan

I just sorted my phone
hi,
if you haven't fixed your issue yet,
the best way is to have a good read of the two discussions i've given below. both require you to have a working windows mobile device. it could even be a PDA.
using which u need to create a goldcard.
i suggest you use the qmat method as described in this post
forum.xda-developers.com/showpost.php?p=3224093&postcount=100
either ways, read the forums fully, then see what you can do. one of these will work for sure, once you get the gold card created, u can load any rom, the original or even a higher one from htc herald.
the urls u need to review are
forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=417930
forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=572683
this will help you get your phone back... if its loading into bootloader, it means ur phone can still be saved.
ps copy and paste the above links

[Q] How to use a Goldcard

Oke guys here's my queston.
First look at:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=939763&page=3
My radio is probably bricked, so now i'm trying to use a goldcard:
I managed to get the CID of my SD card.
Reversed the CID of the 2 Gb is: 009b000a6daf00804732305553445303
With a little help of this forum i now have a goldcard and put an original LEOIMG on the goldcard.
Still no solution, the bootscreen flashes off/on 1 time and then returned into bootscreen. No attempt of flashing seen. What went wrong??
Thanks in advance!

first the obvious questions, (quite often its somethign dead simple) ,
you extracted ruu_signed.nbh and didnt just rename the whole .exe to .nbh?
How did you write the .img to the card? ? you
How did you get the CID?
let me have the two CIDS (dont reverse them or anything, just as you got them) and an email address and ill make you an image for each disk, that way you have three to try.
Magazijn said:
Still no solution, the bootscreen flashes off/on 1 time and then returned into bootscreen. No attempt of flashing seen.
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on a normal sd card, this usually indicates either wrong stock rom being used (sure the rom you are using is for your region AND carrier?((if locked)), or an sd card that isn't set up right (freshly format it, FAT32 )
It might point to the goldcard image being wrong, or incorrectly written to the card.

I extracted the original HTC HD2 dutch rom, took of the ruu_signed.nbh, copied it to the goldcard en renamed it to LEOIMG.nbh
I got the CID by using a working adroid phone together with the tutorial from "theunlocker.com" (sdk/adb-app en hex-app)
The 2 onreversed CID's are:
1gb
035344535530314780606ca6f10079a6
2gb
03534453553032478000af6d0a009b8e
emailaddress: [email protected]
thanks!

Hey Magazijn if your problem is not a hardware issue then you have the right guy working with you now. Samsamuel will have you up and running again I am sure of it. Just remember though if you are using USB to flash and not SD card then always put your HD2 into bootloader and wait for the USB tben flash this is a trusted method. And don't forget to click Samsamuel's thanks button when he gets you going. Peace.

heh, cheerleader fees in the post.
@OP sorry for the delay, theres a step by step to double check you are writing teh image correctly HERE

Thanks for the quick solution samsamuel, but still the same problem.
After Boot the screen builds up again in boot and that's it.
So i think it's an hardware radioproblem with can't be fixed.
Should a hardware repair help me out?
Last question i used original dutch LEOIMG (winmo 6.5), can i use another (android of winmo) rom?
If yes, which would you prefer.
Again thank for your help, i appreciate it.

hmm, not sure what to suggest. As i said b4, a brief 'loading' then back to bootloader usually indicates the wrong rom. Are you sure your phone is an unbranded dutch phone? did you download that rom with your serial number from the htc website? (it will only let you download correct roms if you use serial)
This shouldnt matter if the goldcard is working, but if you KNOW its the correct rom, it can be discounted as the cause.