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Confused by web2go

I've been trying to read about the new web2go service, and I'm completely confused. This thread called "New Tzones Hack" just added to the confusion.
I've been using the t-zones $5.99 for years, with minimal problems. (The exception is after I've been plugged into a PC on the internal network at Microsoft. That always blows away the t-zones setup, and I have to run tmobyjoe599.cab to recover.)
I should add that I'm using a HTC Polaris, have Google set as my homepage, and I've never used a Tmo homepage, so maybe I don't understand that relationship.
So what is the role of epc.tmobile.com? It's referred to as an APN. Is this another name for proxy or not? Some instructions telly you to replace wap.voicestream.com with epc.tmobile.com, but then tell you not to use the proxy!
Does web2go require the proxy, or not? If it does, why would things like Skyfire work, since they won't use proxies. If it does use a proxy, will I have to manuall repair all my settings after a connection at MS, or is there a web2go equivalent to tmobyjoe599.cab?
Do you have to get Tmo to change your records to allow faster speeds with web2go? Do you have to pay the higher rate?
Given that there are on 7 posts that come up here searching on web2go, is there a better information source?

Bump. Still looking for an answer.

i'm under the impression that web2go and the old tzones are the same thing, save for pricing and data allowance, of which tzones wins on both accounts.
i don't know that cab file, but personally, the epc settings are easier since it doesn't require proxy settings and offers more ports. on my tilt or touch pro, epc is a fantastic "upgrade" from the wap apn.
speeds are the same, as there is no speed ontrol on tmobile' end. you get what your phone and service area provide you, being edge speeds probably

bravo261 said:
i'm under the impression that web2go and the old tzones are the same thing, save for pricing and data allowance, of which tzones wins on both accounts.
i don't know that cab file, but personally, the epc settings are easier since it doesn't require proxy settings and offers more ports. on my tilt or touch pro, epc is a fantastic "upgrade" from the wap apn.
speeds are the same, as there is no speed ontrol on tmobile' end. you get what your phone and service area provide you, being edge speeds probably
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Thanks for the answer, but you keep saying "i'm under the impression:, "probably", and "i don't know." I'm looking for some definitive information. Isn't there someone out there who knows these answers, or knows where they can be found?

fine...want definitive?
web2go and tzones are the same thing, except tzones is unlimited and cheaper. if you got tzones, good for you. web2go offers nothing more, just less data at a higher price with included messages.
epc and wap.xxx are apns, not proxies. the proxy is that 216.155.165.50 stuff that you enter. if you use wap.voicestream.com, you need the numbers. if you use epc, you don't use the numbers. its pretty clear, as others on the forum have said.
you get edge speeds, no way around it. you will not get 3g, regardless of what you do or how much you pay so long as a polaris is in your hands. htc's only phone for tmobile 3g is the G1, also definitive and simple.
and i don't know what that little cab file does

supposedly a member and 2 t-mo reps would also account the htc universal for 3g (in their 2100mhz areas only)

i have tzones and get 3g with my samsung gravity2
i am grandfathered in to the $4.99 tzones plan and can pull up websites that i previously couldn't with tzones, so i guess i am getting full benefit of web2go for the lower price. tech support says that web2go has unlimited access to the web and that tzones is limited, but i wonder if they are instructed to say that in hopes of selling the more expensive plan. unlimited web browsing also depends on your phone. older phones are not equipped to handle web pages with more content. when they say you have full access to the internet, you do, as long as your phone can support the content. even with web2go, certain web pages won't display if your phone is not capable of supporting the content. i just got the gravity2 which works well for web browsing, and supports 3g, so i get that as well. the thing with 3g is that it is only available in certain metropolitan areas. the 3g network will expand as time goes on but for now it is limited. when i am in a 3g area i get 3g and it is displayed on my phone and when i am not in a 3g area, i get edge.

im sorry but this only edge speeds is bull. When I got a mytouch 3g i had web2go and had 3G service and speeds. The only problem was after 2 days they blocked my data plan completely and instead demanded I upgraded to the mytouch 3g data plan. I couldnt even get edge. but im 100% sure if you have a non android phone that has 3g you could get 3g using web2go.

Im getting 3g speeds with my TP2 using my old tzones account (epc).

lol the post saying 3g only was posted back in 08 when t-mobile's only 3g phone was the g1

bravo is right! if you use wap.voicestream.com, you will be needing the numbers but if you use epc, you wont be needing those.

HD2 Data questions?

I ordered a HD2, And am on AT&T. Wouldnt mind killing my 30$ data plan, is there any way to stop it from connecting, and can AT&T tell I have a smart phone?

GamerMYJ said:
I ordered a HD2, And am on AT&T. Wouldnt mind killing my 30$ data plan, is there any way to stop it from connecting, and can AT&T tell I have a smart phone?
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to answer your question first, yes you can cancel your data plan and stop the HD2 from connecting to ATT data (by not setting up your device during your first setup, or you can just delete the media net settings after setup is complete. i.e. selected AT&T as your network during the first boot up).
AT&T would not recognize your device, as it is not listed in theit IMEI bank under AT&T's system. (you can just tell the representative that you have an old flip phone, if they ever call you to get the imei of your phone since it is not going to appear in their system or at the time that you cancel your data service, as i am sure they will ask you why are you terminating the iphone plan). so make sure you have an old cingular or At&t phone that you can give out the IMEI when you made the call. (This will also benefit you in the future, if you ever decided to get a medianet unlimited for $15.00 which is the perfect data plan for HD2 under AT&T since your HD2 (assuming that it is a T8585 or a Tmobile brand phone and HSDPA or 3G will not be supported.)
Im sorry but i just don't see the use of having a device such as the HD2 without using the data. Im sure that you are aware that HD2's features such as weather, maps, facebook, etc.. require's an internet connection right??? so if you decided to cancel your plan, you can only be connected thru Wifi or if ever you permit, AT&T pay per use is extremely expensive.
1Cent = 1KB
opening yahoo.com webpage = assuming 1,024KB = 1MB = $1.00
so think about it really good if i were you.
cheers

I think one problem is that the T-mo HD2's are showing up as Blackberries so they are going to force the $30 data plan regardless. I'm 100% positive they think I have a blackberry but I'm hoping that someone can tell me that they don't enforce the $30 plan in this instance?

Use T-mobile Htc Hd2 On AT&T 3G Network?

Hi guys, i have already searched the forums and cant find anything related to my title. Basically i would like to know if i could use my hd2 on at&t 3g network and how can i do it. I know i can unlock my hd2 by asking t-mobile but would it work on at&t? Thanks in advance

yeah it works on at&t network but not as 3g. It gets E which is the edge. If you search the forum there's a cab file that will program the phone so you can use data connection with at&t network. I got my phone unlocked via tmobile and have been using it with at&t for a couple weeks now without any problems.

SO you are basically saying that i can do anything i can already do with the phone on t mobile on at&t but except have 3g? So i would have to use edge as my data connection for internet? And how does sms work? Any settings to change to get it to work?

Install this cab file, its all you need to do
http://www.mediafire.com/?kmlmn4wt35m
These are the att settings everything will just work
on att, you can use gprs/edge , but of course no 3g

You have to have T-Mobile account to get the HD2....they don't sell them unlocked... after 40 days of use on a t-mobile account, t-mobile customer service will provide youw ith an unlock code, not before...

mearsfan5 said:
You have to have T-Mobile account to get the HD2....they don't sell them unlocked... after 40 days of use on a t-mobile account, t-mobile customer service will provide youw ith an unlock code, not before...
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I'm wondering, if the radio can be flashed to support AT&T 3G band, or components are different...

alexsemi said:
I'm wondering, if the radio can be flashed to support AT&T 3G band, or components are different...
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No, can't be flashed to work on AT&T 3G. You would have to get the Australian Telstra 9193 model which uses the 850 band that AT&T uses. That's the only way to use AT&Ts 3G with the HD2. The bands are set in the hardware.

digitallysick said:
Install this cab file, its all you need to do
http://www.mediafire.com/?kmlmn4wt35m
These are the att settings everything will just work
on att, you can use gprs/edge , but of course no 3g
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Is there any settings/cab file for Rogers network in Canada?? Any help would be appreciated. Thanks

desiplaya172 said:
yeah it works on at&t network but not as 3g. It gets E which is the edge. If you search the forum there's a cab file that will program the phone so you can use data connection with at&t network. I got my phone unlocked via tmobile and have been using it with at&t for a couple weeks now without any problems.
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how did you get the unlock code from t-mobile before 40 days of activation. That is what they told me when i asked for the unlock code. could you please share the secret....

mearsfan5 said:
You have to have T-Mobile account to get the HD2....they don't sell them unlocked... after 40 days of use on a t-mobile account, t-mobile customer service will provide youw ith an unlock code, not before...
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this is incorrect. anyone can get the hd2 without contracts @full price of 450 plus tax. they will also unlock it in 1 to 5 days if you paid full price.got mine from wirefly, and had it unlocked in 2 days.

miguel4u2 said:
Hi guys, i have already searched the forums and cant find anything related to my title. Basically i would like to know if i could use my hd2 on at&t 3g network and how can i do it. I know i can unlock my hd2 by asking t-mobile but would it work on at&t? Thanks in advance
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i have unlocked my t-mobile htc hd2 and used on att network, all works fine but not 3g.

alsalahi said:
i have unlocked my t-mobile htc hd2 and used on att network, all works fine but not 3g.
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I have an HD2 on AT&T and everything works, but not fine! If I am browsing the internet and the phone tries to update the weather or mail, really anything else that accesses data in the background it will stop my data connection everywhere. It seems the only way to fix this is a hard reset sometimes, at the very least I have to exit the browser, open the task manager, kill everything, and turn off the data connection in the wireless controls and turn the data back on... My questions to the others who are using this phone on AT&T are 1) are you experiencing the same problems? 2) What did you do to fix this. I have installed the above mentioned cab file for settings and I have also manually entered the settings. I would love the phone even though it only has EDGE except it cant hold a data connection for more than 10 minutes at a time.

profclean2000 said:
I have an HD2 on AT&T and everything works, but not fine! If I am browsing the internet and the phone tries to update the weather or mail, really anything else that accesses data in the background it will stop my data connection everywhere. It seems the only way to fix this is a hard reset sometimes, at the very least I have to exit the browser, open the task manager, kill everything, and turn off the data connection in the wireless controls and turn the data back on... My questions to the others who are using this phone on AT&T are 1) are you experiencing the same problems? 2) What did you do to fix this. I have installed the above mentioned cab file for settings and I have also manually entered the settings. I would love the phone even though it only has EDGE except it cant hold a data connection for more than 10 minutes at a time.
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Well due to the type of connection that EDGE is, you cannot be on the internet and talk on the phone at the same time. This would also go for all applications that use the data connection...only one at a time. This was the case on the pre-3G phones like the HTC Wizard (Cingular 8125).

alsalahi said:
i have unlocked my t-mobile htc hd2 and used on att network, all works fine but not 3g.
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i am using the same phone. unlocked it and used att isp to use network. it shows E as edge network but sometimes it shows G in it. i dont know why but it shows G in some places and works better.. does anyone know what is that and why it happens. can i do anything to get G everytime? i use my phone in texas USA

praym said:
i am using the same phone. unlocked it and used att isp to use network. it shows E as edge network but sometimes it shows G in it. i dont know why but it shows G in some places and works better.. does anyone know what is that and why it happens. can i do anything to get G everytime? i use my phone in texas USA
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The phone cannot and will not get 3G when used on the AT&T network, despite what your icons show...the hardware simply isn't capable. Period.

Bought my unlock code through ebay for $14.00 and had the phone unlocked in 20mins. HD2 works great now.

praym said:
i am using the same phone. unlocked it and used att isp to use network. it shows E as edge network but sometimes it shows G in it. i dont know why but it shows G in some places and works better.. does anyone know what is that and why it happens. can i do anything to get G everytime? i use my phone in texas USA
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G = GPRS
E = EDGE
look them up on wikipedia if you want more info but.....
GRPS is older and slower than Edge, GRPS max speed in ideal conditions is somewhere i the upper double digits/ lower triple digits. You might be lucky to get into the 200kbps range with EDGE.
In the end both suck compared to being able to get tmobile's 3g signal which ive personally seen hit 5mbit/s here in tampa now that HSPA+ is deployed. Being able to get ATT's 3g might get you right around 1mbit if lucky. I dont know what if any plans ATT has for HSPA+ deployment

digitallysick said:
Install this cab file, its all you need to do
mediafire.com/?kmlmn4wt35m
These are the att settings everything will just work
on att, you can use gprs/edge , but of course no 3g
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(edited url cause I can't post as a new user)
I used this .cab file and while I can browse the web, I can't seem to send MMS pictures using my AT&T sim, are there other settings I have to change?
EDIT: I found the answer here, after a bit more searching! Thanks all, forum.xda-developers.com/showpost.php?p=6695081&postcount=13

I just bought the hd2 and planning on unlocking it to work on AT&T. I know that I will be getting Edge instead of 3g. But can someone plz explain to me how does it work as far as data plans and mms. Do i need to have a data plan to send mms or mms will be sent through edge. and as for data and web browsing , do i have to have a data plan or since when i go online i will be on edge so i dont need a data plan

mearsfan5 said:
You have to have T-Mobile account to get the HD2....they don't sell them unlocked... after 40 days of use on a t-mobile account, t-mobile customer service will provide youw ith an unlock code, not before...
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90 Days, unless they changed it. 3 phones unlocked, 90 days between each.

Tmobile US

For some reason my internet service doesn't work on my x10 but every thing else works just fine. I tried calling tmobile technical support and the guy said he has not idea how to fix it, and refer me to post a threat at the tmobile forum Dose anyone know how I can set it up?
Thank you.

I am not quite sure what problem you have. My x10 works fine with T-mobile US A. Do you mean you do not get their 3G network??

I just let my phone do the automatic settings and it just worked. 3G and all.
I have the $19.99 T-Mobile Unlimited Internet Plan + T-Mobile Hotspots plan.
Which data plan are you running?

I can't use internet... I have to connect to Wifi if I need to use the internet.
I used to have this same sim card on my factory unlocked iphone 3gs and its fine. I don't know what the problem is? Can you tell me what's your network setting like?
Thank you

gr00vy0ne said:
I just let my phone do the automatic settings and it just worked. 3G and all.
I have the $19.99 T-Mobile Unlimited Internet Plan + T-Mobile Hotspots plan.
Which data plan are you running?
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Same here I have the unlimited plan with 2 years contract....! This is frustrating.

Ohh I got it working now, I added a new APN and now it is working Yeah!
Thx everyone!

It also works with the $9.99 plan, just change the APN to internet2.voicestream.com

Bialynia said:
It also works with the $9.99 plan, just change the APN to internet2.voicestream.com
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Thx thats what I did, just like the iphone!

try to switch your apn to epc.tmobile.com that's what i have in my phone right now when i do the auto setting.

[Q] Focus on T-mobile?

would the samsung focus work on tmobile network if i had the unlock code?
3G and all?
thanks i've searched online and didnt really find anything helpful

if you get the focus unlocked, it will work on tmobile, but you wont get the 3G speeds. Only EDGE, since the focus does not have the required HSPA frequencys used by tmobile.

thanks a lot, thats all i needed to know, Disappointed tho

Reviving this thread. So I have a Samsung Focus unlocked on Tmobile and I cannot get data to work. Any ideas on what could help? i have already added my apn of internet2.voicestream.com

Have you tried epc.tmobile.com

yes I have with no luck but thanks

in the usa depending where you are they either use epc.tmobile.com or wap.voicestream.com might try the network profile app too... i know samsung has addressed this issue and is in the process of fixing it to where when the unit is unlocked the settings from any gsm carrier will work... there is also a homebrew app somewhere that has worked with mixed results too...

ive tried those apns as well. thanks. and i tried the network profile app too any idea where i can get these homebrew apps?

probably in this forum or the wp dev forum here.....

Help
I been trying to figure out the internet and its driving me crazy. Anyone have anymore info on this?

You need to get the Samsung Tools.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=924497
Added: Run ADC option to automatically configure Data and MMS settings on reboot.
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btw samsung focus: 3G Network HSDPA 850 / 1900 / 2100

Samsung Focus Unlock Code
I hope this isn't an issue, as I just ordered a Focus to replace my wife's v1 iPhone on T-mobile USA.
Anyone know a good place to get an unlock code?
The one on unlockcellphonecode.com/ is $45.00 which seems really high to me.

jaschen said:
I been trying to figure out the internet and its driving me crazy. Anyone have anymore info on this?
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Post of the year! When you figure this **** out let the reddit cloud know.
As far as the frequency concerned, AWS spectrum used by T-Mo is 1700 and 2100 MHz.
Sent from my Bionix powered Vibrant

ATT Samsung Focus on Tmobile
To anyoe else thinking about getting a Focus to use on Tmobile USA network....
I can confirm everything is working and this is how I got it to work.
Everything works except obviously 3G because att and tmobile use different frequencies for 3G (until the merger at least) 2G works great though.
First thing you need to do is either get an unlock code from ATT (unlikey) or go to FastGSM.com and for 19.00 you can get your phone sim unlocked, so that your tmobile sim will work.
Now your phone works and my data was working out of the box as well.
However, you will not be able to send or recieve MMS messages.
To fix this, go to the market and clck on Samsung Apps, then install their Network Configuation app. Open the app and change network from ATT to Tmobile USA and now MMS will work perfectly.
Hope this info helps someone else.

brad1825 said:
I hope this isn't an issue, as I just ordered a Focus to replace my wife's v1 iPhone on T-mobile USA.
Anyone know a good place to get an unlock code?
The one on unlockcellphonecode.com/ is $45.00 which seems really high to me.
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http://myworld.ebay.com.au/nckzone/
This one worked for me, and ppl here have confirmed it, its the cheapest i think there is.

brad1825 said:
To anyoe else thinking about getting a Focus to use on Tmobile USA network....
I can confirm everything is working and this is how I got it to work.
Everything works except obviously 3G because att and tmobile use different frequencies for 3G (until the merger at least) 2G works great though.
First thing you need to do is either get an unlock code from ATT (unlikey) or go to FastGSM.com and for 19.00 you can get your phone sim unlocked, so that your tmobile sim will work.
Now your phone works and my data was working out of the box as well.
However, you will not be able to send or recieve MMS messages.
To fix this, go to the market and clck on Samsung Apps, then install their Network Configuation app. Open the app and change network from ATT to Tmobile USA and now MMS will work perfectly.
Hope this info helps someone else.
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are you using a grandfathered data plan ($10) or normal data plan?
detox8907 seems to be on $10 data plan.

Yes I am on the 10 dollar data plan. anyone have this working?

arkavat said:
are you using a grandfathered data plan ($10) or normal data plan?
detox8907 seems to be on $10 data plan.
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No I am on a Family Plan with Unlimited Web.

detox8907 said:
Yes I am on the 10 dollar data plan. anyone have this working?
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Have you tried the app suggested by Vico100 ?

brad1825 said:
To anyoe else thinking about getting a Focus to use on Tmobile USA network....
I can confirm everything is working and this is how I got it to work.
Everything works except obviously 3G because att and tmobile use different frequencies for 3G (until the merger at least) 2G works great though.
First thing you need to do is either get an unlock code from ATT (unlikey) or go to FastGSM.com and for 19.00 you can get your phone sim unlocked, so that your tmobile sim will work.
Now your phone works and my data was working out of the box as well.
However, you will not be able to send or recieve MMS messages.
To fix this, go to the market and clck on Samsung Apps, then install their Network Configuation app. Open the app and change network from ATT to Tmobile USA and now MMS will work perfectly.
Hope this info helps someone else.
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WOWWWW I was searching to see if an unlocked ATT Focus with be able to MMS on T-Mobile US network. Thanks for the information.
I have a Focus and called ATT for unlock code. They said the unlock code will be provided after May 8th. So waiting for a month before I can use it on T-Mobile US.
My only concern was whether I would be able to send and receive picture messages. I hope your solution works next month!!