If anyone is interested in assisting me in making a new rom, for our NOW rooted phones. Please let me know.
Lucky you
binny1007 said:
Lucky you
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lol I was just thinking the same thing...
working on it already jcase
zifnab06 said:
working on it already jcase
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im on it. i promised i would. so all we need now is a recovery
NO BUENO!
its our luck tho, a week after we get a leak of 2.1 .. tadaaaaa the device is rooted.
this make socal mad!
SoCalSpecialist said:
NO BUENO!
its our luck tho, a week after we get a leak of 2.1 .. tadaaaaa the device is rooted.
this make socal mad!
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+1 im in the same boat. i upgraded my eris thinking root was going to take a while longer and didnt want to wait. my understanding also was that the devs gave up on 1.5 root and were instead working on 2.1 leaked root. oh well. i can either wait for 2.1 downgrade or another root for 2.1. or my more likely scenario is to go out and get the Nexus 1 on the 23rd when it is supposedly coming to verizon.
SoCalSpecialist said:
NO BUENO!
its our luck tho, a week after we get a leak of 2.1 .. tadaaaaa the device is rooted.
this make socal mad!
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What would top off the cake is if HTC released the OTA right now.
If your a chef, and want, I have a list (and files) of what I want added, and the base image.
I want the bootloader from our ROOT rom, the contents of /system/xbin from the ROOT rom and everything else from the leak rom.
Correct me if I am wrong, but that should give us
the s = off boot loader, su and other programs from xbin, and finally a more stable system.
jcase
jcase said:
If your a chef, and want, I have a list (and files) of what I want added, and the base image.
I want the bootloader from our ROOT rom, the contents of /system/xbin from the ROOT rom and everything else from the leak rom.
Correct me if I am wrong, but that should give us
the s = off boot loader, su and other programs from xbin, and finally a more stable system.
jcase
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That's not much to ask for. lol. Why the bootloader and xbin from the root rom though, why not just remove boot.img from the leaked rom and add SU to it and flash it?
Or better yet, build AOSP from source and add the 2.1 Eris drivers from the leaked ROM, and make a Nexus One replica ROM for the Eris?
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+1 im in the same boat. i upgraded my eris thinking root was going to take a while longer and didnt want to wait. my understanding also was that the devs gave up on 1.5 root and were instead working on 2.1 leaked root. oh well. i can either wait for 2.1 downgrade or another root for 2.1. or my more likely scenario is to go out and get the Nexus 1 on the 23rd when it is supposedly coming to verizon.
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Actually.... they didnt root 1.5 supposedly based on the official root is here thread
caboos3 said:
As to how this was found / done, I quote myself from IRC:
"<caboose> Lets just say i happened to come buy this SIGNED pre-rooted ROM while strolling the dungeons of the HTC building in taiwan (its true, i had to slay a dragon too.)"
We will post the ROM in question soon, just making sure there aren't any fatal bugs etc.
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somone came across a rooted version of the 2.1 ROM so we just have to wait for somone to figure out a way to get the 2.1 leak to "downgrade".
this is all because the rooted rom has a build of 2.19.605.1 Test Keys and the Leaked rom has a build number of 2.26.605.2 Release Keys which in turn makes it a down grade because the rooted ROM is 7 builds lower then the leaked ROM.
my thought would be can somone get into a hex editor and change the build number to a higher version without jacking the checksum and ruining the ROM. maybe that would allow a "downgrade".
but back on topic.... it appears that 1.5 was not rooted at all based on Caboos3's statement
on the subject of rom cooking, i have never done it but am interested and would be willing to do what i could to help out.
ive got a 2.1 rooted eris
iron changing it with the hex number will screw up the checks.
apreichner
the bootloader has secure off, thats what i want it
busybox is userful
xbin has su, scp and other things i want.
i knew it would... but i wonder if there is a way to do it and preserve checks.
im not sure how checksum algoritims work so i dont know if theres a way to offset the change.
the only hex editing ive ever done with files only required me to ensure the file read the same size so minor changes were possible and a single digit change would be a minor change.
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iron changing it with the hex number will screw up the checks.
apreichner
the bootloader has secure off, thats what i want it
busybox is userful
xbin has su, scp and other things i want.
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Oh I didn't realize the bootloader was like that on the rooted rom. I was thinking you could just push the image if you had SU, but since the bootloader is already unsecured, you could use that. Until you guys get a custom recovery of course.
The bootloader has S-OFF *AND* it is an Engineering SPL. Can we extract the SPL by chance? I have an idea.....but I wont' mention it if we can't
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The bootloader has S-OFF *AND* it is an Engineering SPL. Can we extract the SPL by chance? I have an idea.....but I wont' mention it if we can't
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Engineering SPL huh... woot that means u boys have fastboot. hell yeah. but no ur best bet is the goldcard deal. at that rate u can flash the rooted leak and be scott free. since u have a build that will flash to ur device and give u root. then all u gotta do is figure out the goldcard and flash it. idk if u guys have a good reason why the goldcard wont work or not. im just sayin thats prolly the best bet
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Engineering SPL huh... woot that means u boys have fastboot. hell yeah. but no ur best bet is the goldcard deal. at that rate u can flash the rooted leak and be scott free. since u have a build that will flash to ur device and give u root. then all u gotta do is figure out the goldcard and flash it. idk if u guys have a good reason why the goldcard wont work or not. im just sayin thats prolly the best bet
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I thought using the Goldcard was not possible?
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=646734
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V3 is OTA, only file OTA has that V3 does not have is \System\App\UpgradeSetup.apk
V3 obviosuly has files that OTA does not because OTA is not a full upgrade, it is the only difference. So, Enjoy. Even the radio, recovery, and boot are the same as V3.
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V3 is OTA, only file OTA has that V3 does not have is \System\App\UpgradeSetup.apk
V3 obviosuly has files that OTA does not because OTA is not a full upgrade, it is the only difference. So, Enjoy. Even the radio, recovery, and boot are the same as V3.
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Okay, See if they can install that .apk if not... then ohh well, not a big deal.
That upgradesetup.apk is used by the device after the upgrade only to Upgrade the device... in otherwords not needed at all
What happend to friendstream???
edgeupgx said:
What happend to friendstream???
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I'm pretty sure friendstream is an Sprint rom application that was ported over to the Eris.
Friendstream was never supposed to be on the Eris 2.1
Well its not it was in the update notes it really isnt even something I care about but its not there. Another thing there is talk that people that went from 1.5 to 2.1 ota are still able to root so there have to be some pretty big differences between the two.
You are mis-reading it. The only reason people would be able to is if bootloader doesnt get updated. This is allready updated past the s-OFF on a leaked non rooted 2.1 - The only hope is if what Zifnab is working on is completed.
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Friendstream was never supposed to be on the Eris 2.1
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Gah must have been one of those stupid blogs I read that said it was getting it I know I had saw it somewhere that it would be included.
edgeupgx said:
Gah must have been one of those stupid blogs I read that said it was getting it I know I had saw it somewhere that it would be included.
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But if you were root you could get it on just about any Sense rom... ie:EvilEris 2.0.1, HDLegend, etc.
V3 is very different from OTA.........mainly the fact that OTA does not change HBOOT and you can still ROOT once you have done OTA. Check the thread over at androifforums. I cannot post links as this is my first post.
I am the one that verified this and will fully root my phone tonight.....99% positive it will work.
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V3 is very different from OTA.........mainly the fact that OTA does not change HBOOT and you can still ROOT once you have done OTA. Check the thread over at androifforums. I cannot post links as this is my first post.
I am the one that verified this and will fully root my phone tonight.....99% positive it will work.
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Umm... im pretty sure you can't root the OTA just yet.... I don't care what AF says... lol... effin n00bz
Unless... one of our fine devs have already gotten it... but i dont think so yet!!!!!
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You are mis-reading it. The only reason people would be able to is if bootloader doesnt get updated. This is allready updated past the s-OFF on a leaked non rooted 2.1 - The only hope is if what Zifnab is working on is completed.
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He said 1.5 -> OTA 2.1, not leaker... so, their bootloader has not gone past the S-OFF version, if as you suggest the bootloader stays untouched.
Have a peek at ./META-INF/com/google/android/update-script (look for write_raw_image); it sort of looks like the kernel image (boot.img) and recovery partition are written, but a cursory inspection shows nothing similar for the bootloader, nor any files in the .zip which are exactly 512 kB.
As far as doing a file comparison between a post-install OTA phone and the leak-V3 code, it seems like a dev would actually have to compare post-patched code from the phone, something like this: (?)
1) Restore 1.5 but leave S-OFF in place (folks who did the Toastcfh "battery pull" can do this).
2) Run the update.zip (and pray that the bootloader is untouched).
3) Use fastboot+S-OFF to re-installl Amon_RA's recovery
4) Boot to recovery, and use adb to pull everything from /system, /data partitions back to the dev's PC
5) Restore whatever ROM you please
6) On the PC, compare phone files to leak V3 files (compare checksums or run binary diffs).
An even safer way would be to run the update in an emulator instance, but I'm not exactly sure how to set that up. (The SDK emulator is based off of QEMU - you can run arbitrary ARM code in it, but the update obviously needs to start with the Eris 1.5 code in the emulator).
On other matters, I note that there are some assertions at the beginning of the patch run:
Code:
assert file_contains("SYSTEM:build.prop", "ro.build.fingerprint=verizon/htc_desirec/desire
c/desirec:1.5/CUPCAKE/104882:user/release-keys") == "true" || file_contains("SYSTEM:build.
prop", "ro.build.fingerprint=verizon/htc_desirec/desirec/desirec:2.1/ERD79/165907:user/rel
ease-keys") == "true"
Anybody know which HTC leak matches the "2.1/ERD79" fingerprint?
Also, call me paranoid, but methinks HTC or Verizon are dicking with us - look at the ridiculous timestamps in the .zip file. Nobody is that sloppy.
bftb0
ssgtob1 said:
I am the one that verified this and will fully root my phone tonight.....99% positive it will work.
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I hope it works out...
Manually updating with the OTA file definitely does not change HBOOT at all. I had 1.47 before and I still have 1.47......leakers all have 1.49....if you need a video I can make that happen......and andrew no need to call anyone an effin noob, I have probably done more with software in the last 24 hours than you have in your lifetime.....all I am saying is that if you install the OTA you still have the option of rooting. I took the roo pb00img.zip after I did the OTA and HBOOT recognised it as valid and would allow me to upgrade.
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How are you gonna root on 2.1 OTA? lmao... seriously dude... nevermind... I give up...
1 post on xda and now he thinks he can root 2.1 OTA.... when our devs have been hard at work trying to find an exploit... lol
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He's right. If you go from 1.5 to 2.1 OTA you can still root.
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Manually updating with the OTA file definitely does not change HBOOT at all. I had 1.47 before and I still have 1.47......leakers all have 1.49....if you need a video I can make that happen......and andrew no need to call anyone an effin noob, I have probably done more with software in the last 24 hours than you have in your lifetime.....all I am saying is that if you install the OTA you still have the option of rooting. I took the roo pb00img.zip after I did the OTA and HBOOT recognised it as valid and would allow me to upgrade.
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#1 i wasn't calling you a n00b... I meant half the people in AF... so its whatever man... hope it works out for you.. No harm no foul...
#2 I hope it works out for you really do....
#3 if it does, I will apologize and welcome to root... If it doesn't then ohhh well...
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How are you gonna root on 2.1 OTA? lmao... seriously dude... nevermind... I give up...
1 post on xda and now he thinks he can root 2.1 OTA.... when our devs have been hard at work trying to find an exploit... lol
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Whatever.....just trying to help......but I get flamed by some asshole instead
I guess the real question is... why did the leaks change the bootloader? that seems odd to me.
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Anybody know which HTC leak matches the "2.1/ERD79" fingerprint?
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The latest one (called leak 3, actually the 4th leak ) is the same: ro.build.fingerprint=verizon/htc_desirec/desirec/desirec:2.1/ERD79/165907:user/release-keys
Just curious how many people loaded the 2.1 Update and have now lost root. How many of you loaded a variant of the Official 2.1 and still have root?
Anyone still on 1.5?
Currently still running AOSP 1.6, but going to hop over to Darchdroid, once Drachstar has fixed a few minor issues.
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Currently still running AOSP 1.6, but going to hop over to Darchdroid, once Drachstar has fixed a few minor issues.
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I'm running Darchdroid too. It's running smooth as a baby's buttox.
I flashed Fresh 2.1.1 on Monday. It's based off the leaked Sprint 2.1. Works great. I have root.
I'm on Regaw's latest ROM. Running smooth and skippy.
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Fresh 2.1 and I lost root. Es file always let me hit back to get to the root files and when I flashed 2.1 I can't do that. Not even on my cpu. I think I'm gonna run over my phone and turn it in on insurance. Free phone. And if I wait enough I could get an EVO.
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Fresh 2.1 and I lost root. Es file always let me hit back to get to the root files and when I flashed 2.1 I can't do that. Not even on my cpu. I think I'm gonna run over my phone and turn it in on insurance. Free phone. And if I wait enough I could get an EVO.
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It comes with root. If you lost root, you need to reflash.
dukeoflbg said:
Fresh 2.1 and I lost root. Es file always let me hit back to get to the root files and when I flashed 2.1 I can't do that.
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Do you have superuser whitelist installed? The only way to lose root is to flash the official HTC/Sprint RUU. Es was updated in 2.1, so it may just be a difference in version. I don't believe Es will request root anyway, try downloading Root Explorer. The quickest way to check if you have root is to run a terminal emulator and type su.
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Just curious how many people loaded the 2.1 Update and have now lost root.
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The simple fact that this number is > 0 baffles me...why would anyone be a member on this site if they didn't care about root
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The simple fact that this number is > 0 baffles me...why would anyone be a member on this site if they didn't care about root
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They don't know any better.
On one of my phones I run the latest ruu and obviously don't have root on the other running fresh 2.od with updates and I have root
WTF? 11 of you!?!?!?!
thatguythatdid said:
On one of my phones I run the latest ruu and obviously don't have root on the other running fresh 2.od with updates and I have root
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I'm not trying to be offensive, I simply don't understand the benefit of not having root. Why did you not root your other hero?
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WTF? 11 of you!?!?!?!
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Could be worse. Those 11 could have started threads *****ing and moaning as to why they don't have root and for someone to fix it now.
I only recall one thread asking about root but wasn't complaining.
UR so funny.
I took the plunge when the first leak came out after seeing ALL the posts about what if and why for's.
I stated then that I would run the RUU and then try to root.
I tried three (3) ways and it didn't work.
I posted the results HUGE and big for those asking why and when.
I took one for the TEAM so to speak and am willing to wait for a new root without crying about it.
Push comes to shove I buy a new phone if I need it that bad.
So the number of 11 doesn't really seem all that out of line as others did in fact run the RUU before anyone made an effort to actually attempt it and have verifiable results.
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I'm not trying to be offensive, I simply don't understand the benefit of not having root. Why did you not root your other hero?
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Okay this is hard for some people to understand but if you got two phones all to yourself and you don't care what happens to one. It would be of great benefit to the community if you leave one unrooted so when someone needs a beta tester to test whether or not a new root procedure works I'm here to help them beta test the procedure. Plus I wanted to test a couple things out that could only be done if I flashed the 2.1 ruu not to be confused with rom.
WOW, seriously, all of you ran the RUU?
afma_afma, bkplante, bubbacs1, dhinez, HotrodHG, kwbunn, matthewman3, NeoFL, rockcrawler, ThatGuyFromSprint, vortex91, yfernandez
yup...i did....
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WOW, seriously, all of you ran the RUU?
afma_afma, bkplante, bubbacs1, dhinez, HotrodHG, kwbunn, matthewman3, NeoFL, rockcrawler, ThatGuyFromSprint, vortex91, yfernandez
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Got sick of dicking around with different ROMS. Plus this thing is going on Craigslist soon for an Evo. /shrug
regaw_leinad said:
WOW, seriously, all of you ran the RUU?]
i got 4 heros on family plans. moms/dads are not rooted so yup i got them on official 2.1
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I have been searching forums since morning but I haven't been able to figure out how to update to 2.1 and still have root access. There is no OTA available on the phone.
Should I download the RUU exe from sprint's website and update to 2.1? I hear that 2.1 root is not possible after that.
Can anyone guide me in the right direction please?
thanks..
If you want to root now, DON'T update to 2.1. Get the fresh kitchen and root with that.
HeroMeng, thanks for the reply. could you tell me where do I get kitchen from?
and I think I need to mention it is a CDMA HTC Hero on Sprint
phobia said:
HeroMeng, thanks for the reply. could you tell me where do I get kitchen from?
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You can download the kitchen right here. It only works on Windows, so keep that in mind. Once you download the kitchen, tap the Rooter tab. Check none of the boxes, and press "root" (or something like that).
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and I think I need to mention it is a CDMA HTC Hero on Sprint
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Yeah, that's fine. So is everyone's in this section
so I cant get 2.1 on this thing yet ? Kitchen will install a custom 1.5 ROM on it. I managed to read through another forum thread and root the phone. So now I have root on 1.5. I understand that the unrevoked.com root for androind 2.1 wont work after the OTA update. I am beginning to get a little confused. Can I update the phone to RUU_Hero_C_Sprint_2.20.651.1_signed_test Firmware, as it has a built in ROOT ACCESS source link: here though I cant seem to find the download link for 2.20.651.1
sorry if the message is getting convoluted...
Easiest way is to Root with 1.5 using a guide in the Android Dev Section. I did it to 5 CDMA Heros with no prob whatsoever.
And by the way, 2.1 RUU has been rooted.. Search for it in the Dev Section.. (Should be right there on the first page...
Once you are rooted, if you want Something thats the official one, but much better, I recommend DamageControl 2.09 or Fresh 2.1
I have root on 1.5 now, I can install Fresh 2.1 using the instructions here ?
phobia said:
I have root on 1.5 now, I can install Fresh 2.1 using the instructions here ?
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Yes. Yes you can.
done deal, running 2.1-fresh. Also updated the baseband to 2.42.01.04.27... would I have to root again or is it already rooted? Set CPU seems to just give me a black screen and the instructions on the set CPU site is not helping...
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done deal, running 2.1-fresh. Also updated the baseband to 2.42.01.04.27... would I have to root again or is it already rooted? Set CPU seems to just give me a black screen and the instructions on the set CPU site is not helping...
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To get SetCPU, just flash GoDmOdE kernel, you can find it here.
ah I figured it out, the reason for the black screen. For some reason if USB Debugging is not enabled, su wont work. Once I enabled USB Debugging, su works just fine...
phobia said:
ah I figured it out, the reason for the black screen. For some reason if USB Debugging is not enabled, su wont work. Once I enabled USB Debugging, su works just fine...
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Also you need the kernel I posted above or it won't overclock. Over and underclocking needs a special kernel.
a little confused
Heromeng, I'm a little confused. I run a non Sprint hero and some of the forums say fresh kitchen is for Sprint hero's only and others say all hero's. Please dial me in bud. I really want root but don't want to go the Sprint run way. I live in Alaska and my carrier is ACS. Thanks bud.
lohp75 said:
Heromeng, I'm a little confused. I run a non Sprint hero and some of the forums say fresh kitchen is for Sprint hero's only and others say all hero's. Please dial me in bud. I really want root but don't want to go the Sprint run way. I live in Alaska and my carrier is ACS. Thanks bud.
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You can't root with the fresh kitchen. You need to go through a little more steps then Sprint heroes.
Use this guide to root your hero.
HeroMeng said:
You can't root with the fresh kitchen. You need to go through a little more steps then Sprint heroes.
Use this guide to root your hero.
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HeroMeng, you rock for gettin right back to me! I've posted questions elsewhereover a month ago and still not heard back. I have read that guide before but didn't want to follow the wrong one and be left with a nice pretty brick. I've read how you help peers and noobs like me and appreciate that. Well I need to fond a Kingston or PNY sd card, I've tried to make a goldcard with 3 different sandisks and they would not take. I know I'm asking big here bit of you could point me in the direction of a good solid reliable ROM that doesn't need to be tweaked to fit my phone and any other advice/guides that would seriously help a brotha out I would greatly appreciate it.
Thanks again bud.
I need to take my Hero back to factory specs because I'm taking it into a sprint store tomorrow. What all do I need to do... should I just flash my original rom back on there or can I download a rom from htc and it will clear everything? I understand I need to flash a new recovery image too.
Thanks
oh also, I'm running FreshRom.
nautical34 said:
I need to take my Hero back to factory specs because I'm taking it into a sprint store tomorrow. What all do I need to do... should I just flash my original rom back on there or can I download a rom from htc and it will clear everything? I understand I need to flash a new recovery image too.
Thanks
oh also, I'm running FreshRom.
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You can flash the original rom back on there and be fine. They wont EVER press Home+power and boot into recovery.
If you really want to go back to default.. Run this RUU
http://outboundlink.us/anxo/dr_ta_1.../2uQunBaV/RUU_Hero_C_Sprint_2276515_R_si.html
Running the sprint 2.1 update will un-root your phone.
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neuro_genesis said:
Running the sprint 2.1 update will un-root your phone.
Sent from my HERO200 using XDA App
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Its not the sprint update.. thats the .5 ruu
Thanks for the link, that worked out great!
Jus10o said:
Its not the sprint update.. thats the .5 ruu
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Actually newest ruu is .6 I think
after you run this can you re-root?. im new to android and i want to be able to restore to factory settings whenever after root just so i can re-root and practice it, as well as know how to fix it if i do something stupid or just brick the darn thing.
like i said im new and not good with forums where can i get a copy of the original rom? i would like to have that before i attempt to root.
also kinda off topic but do i have to be rooted to make nanoid backup. i would also like to have that before i root.
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after you run this can you re-root?. im new to android and i want to be able to restore to factory settings whenever after root just so i can re-root and practice it, as well as know how to fix it if i do something stupid or just brick the darn thing.
like i said im new and not good with forums where can i get a copy of the original rom? i would like to have that before i attempt to root.
also kinda off topic but do i have to be rooted to make nanoid backup. i would also like to have that before i root.
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Yes you can re-root after running the .5 RUU
the original rom is contained in the RUU program linked above
You don't have to be rooted to make a nandroid backup, though you do need to flash a custom recovery image. Being rooted means that you basically have administrator access on your phone, can run things like wifi tether and can overwrite the /system/ folder. A recovery image is a little different than that...
ok thanks, i know root is just admin, but a lot of root guides have you flash a recovery image, by doing that you replace the original recovery image? the one that takes you back to factory reset? thats what im not sure about and im really nervous about changing that and messing it up and bricking my device, thought one forum said its almost imposable to brick.
ok so i have that RUU and another one i download. do i just run it or do i need to have a specific program on my pc?
i know i need to Google it and just search the forums but i don't have a lot of time on my hands right now.
If you're planning on going back to root, don't run the .6 RUU. I don't think it's rootable. At least that was the case when it came out. .5 IS rootable.
vidsid said:
If you're planning on going back to root, don't run the .6 RUU. I don't think it's rootable. At least that was the case when it came out. .5 IS rootable.
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how do you determine what version the RUU is?
proman95 said:
i know i need to Google it and just search the forums but i don't have a lot of time on my hands right now.
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I am seriously sure it wouldn't hurt to type a couple words into a search query, right? At least people helped you out though. Good luck!
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how do you determine what version the RUU is?
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Menu - settings - about phone - software information - software number.
If it is .6, who cares. You can get root by going to the development section and finding the root guide written by regaw_leinad, and the solution for software number .6 is in there, too. Dunno why people make it out to be such a bad thing to have .6... seriously.
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jerry43812 said:
Menu - settings - about phone - software information - software number.
If it is .6, who cares. You can get root by going to the development section and finding the root guide written by regaw_leinad, and the solution for software number .6 is in there, too. Dunno why people make it out to be such a bad thing to have .6... seriously.
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Well you still can't root .6 but all you need to do is flash .5. So yeah I don't know why people are making a big deal either
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Exactly. .6 isn't rootable yet but you are losing nothing by flashing back to .5 except for the patch they released to fix root exploit. What a waste of time for them.
cp0020 said:
Well you still can't root .6 but all you need to do is flash .5. So yeah I don't know why people are making a big deal either
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jerry43812 said:
I am seriously sure it wouldn't hurt to type a couple words into a search query, right? At least people helped you out though. Good luck!
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thats the thing though most of my search's come up with nothing or so much stuff that its all over the place and dose not help at all, believe me I am trying. I am vary interested in learning as much as i can so when I have to to root/ or flash i can do it easily.
(thats why I don't post that much, I am trying not to sounds like an idiot, thought i probably already have)
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Menu - settings - about phone - software information - software number.
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But thats after you run the RUU.exe I meant how do you know what version of the RUU.exe coincides with what version of the software with out installing or running it. I am still a little confused on what I need to do with the RUU.exe and or what it dose. I have been searching the forums but there is not a Good sticky or wiki about it, its only the definition. I am assuming it re-installs a fresh copy of whatever that version of the OS is, but i don't know for sure.
jerry43812 said:
If it is .6, who cares. You can get root by going to the development section and finding the root guide written by regaw_leinad, and the solution for software number .6 is in there, too. Dunno why people make it out to be such a bad thing to have .6... seriously.
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sorry I am such a noob and thanks for the help but i just want to clarify that .6 stands for 1.6 or donut?
-Thanks for helping the noob!!!
2.27.651.5 is the original Hero update.
2.27.651.6 is the update that was released solely to disable the ability to root.
The RUU for each was released by Sprint/HTC and flashed your phone from 1.5 to 2.whatever.
If you root, then you can run any of these to revert back to the stock Sprint image. If you chose to go to 2.27.651.6 then the only way to re-root would be to flash back to 2.27.651.5 which would only be a pain in the bum.
Since 2.27.651.6 gives you nothing but the inability to root then it only makes sense to revert to .5.
If this makes no sense to you...feel free to give up on rooting altogether. If it does then good luck.
BTW I only figured out how to root on Monday so these forums are most excellent..if you take the time to search through them.
Thanks its starting to make sense, right now I'm software 2.1 update 1 or 2.6 so i just have to go back to 2.5 . once i have more time i will thanks for the explanation! yes this site is the best and yes i need to search more.
my evo is rooted already and i havent paid much atention since i got my 3d but was there an HBOOT update in the GB OTA as compared to the last Froyo 3.70?
If there wasnt, anyone should be able to a simple downgrade with a previous RUU and then use any of the working root methods for froyo.
just a thought i had while being bored.
Nope, new bootloader is locked. Cant downgrade.
EVOlvedAndroid said:
Nope, new bootloader is locked. Cant downgrade.
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so there was a bootloader update?
I really don't even know what to say anymore. I give up. Someone else can do it.
github said:
I really don't even know what to say anymore. I give up. Someone else can do it.
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+1 thats all i have to say about that
what about replacing the system.img in in the latest pc36img with one from the last froyo? if the bootloader stays intact it should flash the froyo sys image and then you could at lease have temp root
t3project said:
what about replacing the system.img in in the latest pc36img with one from the last froyo? if the bootloader stays intact it should flash the froyo sys image and then you could at lease have temp root
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The short version is there is no way around or tricking the bootloader. Pretty much every way imaginable to do this has been tried a bunch of times. We need to find a new exploit to get in. Several devs are working on it and itay happen soon. Seems to be more problematic than any one expected.
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The short version is there is no way around or tricking the bootloader. Pretty much every way imaginable to do this has been tried a bunch of times. We need to find a new exploit to get in. Several devs are working on it and itay happen soon. Seems to be more problematic than any one expected.
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yes, but you're not tricking the bootloader. the bootloader remains the same. the sys image is all you are changing and the signatures should remain intact if it is pulled out of a froyo ruu. for that matter even try placing a rooted OTA sys image in it. this would not gain s-off but you could run a shell root and su if it would work.
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what about replacing the system.img in in the latest pc36img with one from the last froyo? if the bootloader stays intact it should flash the froyo sys image and then you could at lease have temp root
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As far as I understand, the new bootloader won't allow for downgrading or flashing anything that doesn't match HTCs signature....so modifying files is out of the question....
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t3project said:
what about replacing the system.img in in the latest pc36img with one from the last froyo? if the bootloader stays intact it should flash the froyo sys image and then you could at lease have temp root
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Can't do that, it would break HTC's signature and the bootloader would not accept it
I need to save this response in a text file so I can just copy and paste it every day.
You can't modify the contents of a RUU provided by HTC on an S-ON HBOOT. The zip is signed by HTC with their private key. The HBOOT has the public key. Changing just 1 bit on the zip will invalidate the private key and HBOOT won't allow it to flash. This is the reason for wanting S-OFF, so you can flash anything via HBOOT (Recovery, for example) without any signature checks.
You also can't downgrade the HBOOT, as it will give you an error about an earlier version.
All the obvious ideas have been tried, over and over again over the past few months since the new update hit.
If you are still confused, please see this article on Wikipedia about Public Key Cryptography.
Don't forget to add that goldcards and battery pull microsd swaps do not work either.
Well, eff. I switched back to Sprint and back to the EVO today after a (very unpleasant) experience with T-MO and the G2X, only to find out my brand new EVO is already on Gingerbread and can't be rooted, ruling out the best part about owning an EVO... all the awesome custom ROMs. Lovely.
There's been all types of shenanigans occurring trying to root this thing. Including physically planting in the ground. No root from that either. Appreciate where you're coming from and trying to help and all though
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Well, eff. I switched back to Sprint and back to the EVO today after a (very unpleasant) experience with T-MO and the G2X, only to find out my brand new EVO is already on Gingerbread and can't be rooted, ruling out the best part about owning an EVO... all the awesome custom ROMs. Lovely.
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Its being worked on right now so no worries
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I'm rooted but jw is there any news on when that source will be out?
My stupid friends at work wouldn't let me root their froyo and now want to pay me to root their gb I don't even want $ .
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