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Well Hi All. Madhouse here. A buddy of mine who is a firefighter is also a part time Verizon employee, he was gracious enough to let me carry a droid X demo for the day here. It's currently 12:37 pm here and i will have access to the phone for a few more hours here. I made a few videos and took some pictures, i will try my best to answer any requests made in this thread while i have the phone. A few basic principals apply. Obviously i will not be demoing any rooting or hacking type activities on the phone because it is not mine.
Look forward to the questions! Enjoy!
(Will be editing and putting links to the videos in a minute here)
This is a test sample of the droid x's video capability in 720p
Droid X Mozilla Demo
Wow, lucky! I know this may seem dumb... but an alternate home (such as LauncherPro) can be installed, right?
Also, what's the screen like? Is it very responsive/accurate?
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Wow, lucky! I know this may seem dumb... but an alternate home (such as LauncherPro) can be installed, right?
Also, what's the screen like? Is it very responsive/accurate?
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I'll check into the launcher thing for you and the screen is AMAZINGLY accurate, i'll have a video of the multitouch vis app test up in a minute. It makes the Evo (My phone) look terrible as far as touch responsiveness.
how loud does the "loud" speaker sound compared to other smartphones? Also do you feel that the dual leds are very bright? Do the hard buttons on the front feel like they are good quality?
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I'll check into the launcher thing for you and the screen is AMAZINGLY accurate, i'll have a video of the multitouch vis app test up in a minute. It makes the Evo (My phone) look terrible as far as touch responsiveness.
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Woo hoo! This is important to me, so I'm glad to hear that! Makes me even more excited for this!
Hows the keyboard working? The trouble I'm having with my touch phone right now is my fingers are too big and i'm constantly making mistakes -.-
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how loud does the "loud" speaker sound compared to other smartphones? Also do you feel that the dual leds are very bright? Do the hard buttons on the front feel like they are good quality?
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It's definitely loud. It's about as loud as an Evo 4G's or Droid Incredible's. We have all three phones present. Tested them all.
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Woo hoo! This is important to me, so I'm glad to hear that! Makes me even more excited for this!
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I was going to make a video but im using the Evo to make the videos, but yeah, it is SPOT ON for the touch sensitivity, makes the Evo look like it's stuck in the mud. Probably due to the FPS cap or something for all i know.
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Hows the keyboard working? The trouble I'm having with my touch phone right now is my fingers are too big and i'm constantly making mistakes -.-
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It's big, it's especially big if you turn it sideways. I'm a big guy too (6'4" 268 lbs.) The keyboard feels natural too, it's of good size. It has a multitouch keyboard as well as swype for fast typing.
Any chance you have a micro-hdmi cable handy to test playing a DIVX/AVI movie on a TV?
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Any chance you have a micro-hdmi cable handy to test playing a DIVX/AVI movie on a TV?
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I have the cable, i don't have an HDTV unfortunately. Sorry!
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I have the cable, i don't have an HDTV unfortunately. Sorry!
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Could you possibly answer if the launcher can be replaced? ^.^
Awesome to hear about the keyboard! It's the only thing im iffy about considering I really was looking forward to a slide out keyboard.. but if the keys are big then no worries
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Could you possibly answer if the launcher can be replaced? ^.^
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I can't seem to figure out how to get it to go to original launcher much less launcher pro. It's stuck in this motoblur hybrid UI
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Awesome to hear about the keyboard! It's the only thing im iffy about considering I really was looking forward to a slide out keyboard.. but if the keys are big then no worries
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Swype works VERY well for people with large fingers because its just dragging it across the keyboard and yes the keyboard feels great.
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I can't seem to figure out how to get it to go to original launcher much less launcher pro. It's stuck in this motoblur hybrid UI
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So you can't install Launcher Pro from the market?! I don't care about the default one, just need to know I can replace it with something else from the market.
This is what should happen (in case you don't know):
->Install Launcher Pro
->Hit home
->A box should come up asking what launcher you want to use (if you get to here it works).
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So you can't install Launcher Pro from the market?! I don't care about the default one, just need to know I can replace it with something else from the market.
This is what should happen (in case you don't know):
->Install Launcher Pro
->Hit home
->A box should come up asking what launcher you want to use (if you get to here it works).
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Working on it now. Gimmie a second.
(Update: It works flawlessly. Looks amazing too.)
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Working on it now. Gimmie a second.
(Update: It works flawlessly. Looks amazing too.)
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Cool! Thanks for all your answers man, really appreciate it!
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Could you possibly answer if the launcher can be replaced? ^.^
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yes it can be replace. here's a DX with launcher pro
http://androidforums.com/motorola-droid-x/114611-home-screens-launcherpro-screen-shots.html
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yes it can be replace. here's a DX with launcher pro
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Does this necessarily mean Launcher Pro is running instead of Moto's default? Or can it be on top of the original (i.e. wasting mem/cpu, running both)?
The choice it gives on pressing the home screen is just that it recognizes there are 2 registered apps that handle launcher requests, right? It doesn't necessarily kill one for the other, does it?
Only had Android for a few weeks, so sorry if silly question.
Just an observation but the predicitive text on android is a lot less accurate, i lot less !!!!
Just wonding why that is ???
ipguy said:
Just an observation but the predicitive text on android is a lot less accurate, i lot less !!!!
Just wonding why that is ???
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as you already said. Just and observation.
ipguy said:
Just an observation but the predicitive text on android is a lot less accurate, i lot less !!!!
Just wonding why that is ???
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Use a different keyboard if you don't find stock predictions good enough. I would count among the best, Swype, Ultra Keyboard, Smart Keyboard, Swift Key. There are several others I have not tried.
Of course tyranny of choice applies - you will have to spend time trying out the new keyboards whereas iOS there is no choice of what keyboard to use AFAIK.
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Use a different keyboard if you don't find stock predictions good enough. I would count among the best, Swype, Ultra Keyboard, Smart Keyboard, Swift Key. There are several others I have not tried.
Of course tyranny of choice applies - you will have to spend time trying out the new keyboards whereas iOS there is no choice of what keyboard to use AFAIK.
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Not sure that i understand, the actual keyboard is tied to the predicitive text engine ?
blindtype is the solution to the problem i'm referring to, unfortunately won't be available until gingerbread.
shame
I constantly see online people using predictive text that create HORRIBLE sentences that are iPhones so it's predictive text isn't so hot either. Plus, don't both iphone and android start with horrible predictive text that gets better with usage?
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xilpaxim said:
I constantly see online people using predictive text that create HORRIBLE sentences that are iPhones so it's predictive text isn't so hot either. Plus, don't both iphone and android start with horrible predictive text that gets better with usage?
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i simply don't buy that i'm sorry
i've been a long standing iphone user who only recently switch to android and the first thing that stood out was the poor predicative text as opposed to iOS devices.
Buy it or not, but it's a fact. Try going on a website like Yelp, where it actually tells you "posted from my iphone" and you will CONSTANTLY see horrible writing and just completely random words. CONSTANTLY. Actually that is mostly where I see it because I don't really know to many folks with iPhones.
And personally, I hate predictive text, but I used to do data entry and like to type things out. For me it is easier to just type out exactly what I want instead of using that stuff.
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Buy it or not, but it's a fact. Try going on a website like Yelp, where it actually tells you "posted from my iphone" and you will CONSTANTLY see horrible writing and just completely random words. CONSTANTLY. Actually that is mostly where I see it because I don't really know to many folks with iPhones.
And personally, I hate predictive text, but I used to do data entry and like to type things out. For me it is easier to just type out exactly what I want instead of using that stuff.
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for the sake of not getting into an arguement, i'll just leave it at that...
having said that, i'm very excited about blindtype
I was an iPhone user before and I can definitely tell you that off the bat, iPhone Keyboard\predictive text is alot better than Android. HANDS DOWN.
HOWEVER, however, however.... thats comparing Stock to Stock.
Since using, SmartKeyboard, Better Keyboard... and better yet... DroidX multi-touch keyboard on both 2.1 and Froyo builds, the experience is now 'comparable'. Not quite there, but I can type as fast on an iPhone as I can on my Dell Streak with 1 hand.
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I was an iPhone user before and I can definitely tell you that off the bat, iPhone Keyboard\predictive text is alot better than Android. HANDS DOWN.
HOWEVER, however, however.... thats comparing Stock to Stock.
Since using, SmartKeyboard, Better Keyboard... and better yet... DroidX multi-touch keyboard on both 2.1 and Froyo builds, the experience is now 'comparable'. Not quite there, but I can type as fast on an iPhone as I can on my Dell Streak with 1 hand.
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His does betterkeyboard do a. Etter job with preduciti e text?
As you, as you can see from the above sentance, its not better at all....
How does a different keyboard improve predictive text? I just do t get it.
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His does betterkeyboard do a. Etter job with preduciti e text?
As you, as you can see from the above sentance, its not better at all....
How does a different keyboard improve predictive text? I just do t get it.
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So your biggest different is only the predictive text. Ok let's say iso has better predictive text but its not as if android is really that bad, you can install 3rd party keyboard to improve it. Does it really bothers you that much.
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So your biggest different is only the predictive text. Ok let's say iso has better predictive text but its not as if android is really that bad, you can install 3rd party keyboard to improve it. Does it really bothers you that much.
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How does a third party key lard improve it?
Just asking Cox I'm totally stumped with this assumption.
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How does a third party key lard improve it?
Just asking Cox I'm totally stumped with this assumption.
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It's not the keyboard but the predictive software that comes with it. Personally, when the time comes that I need a phone or computer to spell for me or tell me what I want to say I'll go back to reading books carved on rock slabs.
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How does a third party key lard improve it?
Just asking Cox I'm totally stumped with this assumption.
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Ok it really bothers you. btw what is key lard?Have you try installing other keyboard on your android phone yet.....and give it a try....
You say "you have been a long standing iphone user who only recently switch to android and the first thing that stood out was the poor predicative text as opposed to iOS devices."
I still say if this really bothers you that much i guess android phone is not for you.You might want to go back to something you think so highly of.
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Ok it really bothers you. btw what is key lard?Have you try installing other keyboard on your android phone yet.....and give it a try....
You say "you have been a long standing iphone user who only recently switch to android and the first thing that stood out was the poor predicative text as opposed to iOS devices."
I still say if this really bothers you that much i guess android phone is not for you.You might want to go back to something you think so highly of.
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I'm simply asking a question for the sake of understanding, why are you getting so annoyed ? Its a sincere question.
Typing this up on betterkeyboard (no, it hasn't improved the predictive text)
I'm simply trying to understand, on a technical level, how a different keyboard will help ?
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It's not the keyboard but the predictive software that comes with it. Personally, when the time comes that I need a phone or computer to spell for me or tell me what I want to say I'll go back to reading books carved on rock slabs.
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Oh I see, they come with there own predictive text, cool, what's the current best?
No idea m8, as I said I have no problem spelling off my own bat
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No idea m8, as I said I have no problem spelling off my own bat
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You just dont get it.
From Stock Android to Better Keyboard, its an improvement. So far the closest I can get to the iPhone keyboard (responsiveness and predictive text) is the Multi-touch keyboard from DroidX. I know what you mean about the iPhone keyboard and I can still say, nothing so far, beats it. All I'm saying is the DroidX keyboard is the closest I got.... so far.
http://www.engadget.com/2010/12/14/...-posted?icid=sphere_blogsmith_inpage_engadget
I watched this video back in December when it was released, didn't think much of it recently but had a look at it again this morning to see if it was a Xoom prototype. From what I can tell, it is. What I found most interesting is the app tray fly-in smoothness.
Obviously, this was a development unit shown 4 months before the actual release, so it is not terribly relevant to compare my Xoom with his, but I can't help but wonder why the app tray fly-in looks so much smoother on an early device than it does on a production- ready model (albeit not fully polished). Couple of possibilities:
1. The smoothness is simply a result of the video quality, and a higher rez version on a larger screen may allow me to see the fly-in is as chopp as what I've noticed on production models.
2. Rubin's prototype is super-overclocked and thoroughly optimized to be as smooth as possible in order to not look clunky during its first public appearance.
3. This prototype is working in a non-mobile environment, without any added services used by carrier networks. No use by 3g chip and no background services to support data or voice connectivitt.
Thoughts?
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2 and 3
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3. This prototype is working in a non-mobile environment, without any added services used by carrier networks. No use by 3g chip and no background services to support data or voice connectivity.
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Oh Christ Jesus that SO doesn't matter! Have you ever run "ps" or "logcat" while doing that?!
I have 96 apps loaded on my device. I suspect that as you run thru the screens, it's gotta render each icon in-place. I don't believe for a minute that's going to be fast every time.
I've had co-workers "rate" my Xoom by how quickly the icons swipe in the App Screen, and I look at them like they're ****in' crazy. NEVER MIND the fact that the tablet is fast as hell and does 95% of what I want it to well, they say "it doesn't swipe quickly".
WGAS?!!
"Fast as hell" does not describe the Xoom.
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I've had co-workers "rate" my Xoom by how quickly the icons swipe in the App Screen, and I look at them like they're ****in' crazy. NEVER MIND the fact that the tablet is fast as hell and does 95% of what I want it to well, they say "it doesn't swipe quickly".
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And therin lays the reason apple is so sucsesful. They would by far reduce features and only include features that are refined and work than throw everything in, and even give the possibility to developers to affect the experiance.
So in Android you can change your keyboard, you can edit an MP3 with multiple software and then use it as a ring tone ...
in the iPhone ... you cant
MikeyMike01 said:
"Fast as hell" does not describe the Xoom.
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trololololololol.
jondwillis said:
trololololololol.
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It's infuriating slow.
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It's infuriating slow.
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You're infuriatingly trollish.
The xoom is not slow.
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It's infuriating slow.
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Why don't you post a video demonstrating this so we can see how infuriating slow it really is?
That is one thing no one has actually done^
Eclair~ said:
That is one thing no one has actually done^
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True. I posted this with Launcher Pro and Live Wallpaper and it is totally acceptable to me. Give the fact that Launcher Pro is not even optimized for Honeycomb. seems acceptable to me:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NiZ5EmP8h_o
I challenge anyone complaining to post your own demonstrating the lag.
I made this video using my Captivate and Mike's own ROM so there is not reason he cannot do the same. Instead of posting one sentence with no evidence, why not show us?
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It's infuriating slow.
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You must be doing something wrong. Mine only gets slow when I'm developing over ADB (I think it is a bug, actually..) and when I'm using flash sometimes. A reboot fixes the temporary slowness without fail. I might just be lucky and have a nice unit, since my linpack score is in the top 50 after using the stock kernel OC'd to 1.5 GHz.
But I'm sick of seeing this M of yours attached to whiney posts all over these forums. Please, either figure out how to fix your DEVELOPER TABLET or go complain in some NON-DEVELOPER forums where some lucky CONSUMERS might actually get some value out of the dribble you type.
Better yet, return your Xoom, it is clearly not the right tablet for you.
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You must be doing something wrong. Mine only gets slow when I'm developing over ADB (I think it is a bug, actually..) and when I'm using flash sometimes. A reboot fixes the temporary slowness without fail. I might just be lucky and have a nice unit, since my linpack score is in the top 50 after using the stock kernel OC'd to 1.5 GHz.
But I'm sick of seeing this M of yours attached to whiney posts all over these forums. Please, either figure out how to fix your DEVELOPER TABLET or go complain in some NON-DEVELOPER forums where some lucky CONSUMERS might actually get some value out of the dribble you type.
Better yet, return your Xoom, it is clearly not the right tablet for you.
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Thank you for agreeing with me.
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Thank you for agreeing with me.
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Where is the video Mike? Show us this infuriating lag please.
Please don't feed the trolls (esp. those that don't even have Xooms).
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Please don't feed the trolls (esp. those that don't even have Xooms).
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He is a kid spewing issues and not giving specifics. I know he likes Android but he is not helping solve his issues with his one liners and no details. I challenge him and anyone else to post a video showing the issues. Put up or shut up.
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He is a kid spewing issues and not giving specifics. I know he likes Android but he is not helping solve his issues with his one liners and no details. I challenge him and anyone else to post a video showing the issues. Put up or shut up.
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Typing in text boxes on the web (depending on the website). Specific enough?
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Typing in text boxes on the web (depending on the website). Specific enough?
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Getting closer and I agree with you on certain sites. In fact, XDA has this issue on the Xoom as I mentioned in my video. Anything else besides the browser?
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Typing in text boxes on the web (depending on the website).
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1 - there's a lot of JS on certain sites' in their text boxes (presumably for advanced editing/composition features). You'll also notice on those "slow" sites that there's no keyboard autocorrect popups, either 'cause all input is character-at-a-time
2 - that's what you base "slow" on? You sound like my co-workers and their "it's slow 'cause the apps don't scroll as fast as an iPad" crapola.
(Damn, I fed the troll ...! )
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1 - there's a lot of JS on certain sites' in their text boxes (presumably for advanced editing/composition features). You'll also notice on those "slow" sites that there's no keyboard autocorrect popups, either 'cause all input is character-at-a-time
2 - that's what you base "slow" on? You sound like my co-workers and their "it's slow 'cause the apps don't scroll as fast as an iPad" crapola.
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What's funny is for the most part the Xoom browser scrolls faster than the iPad's browser. Even the iPad 2 has the checkerboarding everywhere when you scroll.
Ton of feature rich keyboards I know...but I like this.
Like the huge space bar...less errors. http://www.mediafire.com/?wy2wryijxpvk7q7
Once you've had swype you don't ever go back
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Once you've had swype you don't ever go back
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BS. Never liked swype and don't use it. The version on the Epic Touch is buggy and slow.
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Ton of feature rich keyboards I know...but I like this.
Like the huge space bar...less errors. http://www.mediafire.com/?wy2wryijxpvk7q7
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Thanks for sharing. But, I can't find voice recognize. Any idea?
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BS. Never liked swype and don't use it. The version on the Epic Touch is buggy and slow.
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Seriously I never tried it before the note and I find it far quicker and more accurate to type, really impressed.
And definitely wouldnt use another keyboard now that didnt work by tracing out the word.
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Seriously I never tried it before the note and I find it far quicker and more accurate to type, really impressed.
And definitely wouldnt use another keyboard now that didnt work by tracing out the word.
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Yea. I used swype on my HD2.
I mean I could go back, but Swype is so much quicker and easier.
I like Swype!
I've tried Swype a few times but I can't get the feel of it at all so never use it. Trying the ics keyboard now and finding it's a bit better at auto correcting spaces which is handy.
Swype rules.
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love this ICS keyboard layout (having such a small space bar on others just pisses me off), but is there any way to add the Pen input for it on the SGN? kinda defeats the purpose of it on this handset if you can't use it.
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Seriously I never tried it before the note and I find it far quicker and more accurate to type, really impressed.
And definitely wouldnt use another keyboard now that didnt work by tracing out the word.
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Swype is by far the best. It's so easy and simple and forgiving. I barely even hit my intended letters and it almost always knows what I'm typing. The idea of taping out messages or emails seems archaic now. Especially with the s-pen....it's just such an effortless pleasure.
Takes a day, max. That being said, is love to be able to use Swype on the ics keyboard.
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Ton of feature rich keyboards I know...but I like this.
Like the huge space bar...less errors. http://www.mediafire.com/?wy2wryijxpvk7q7
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I tried the keyboad but have no comment as of now. Why? Because it still lags just like the previous other keyboards I've tried, if your a fast texter like myself the phone is slow & cannot catch up which leads to mistakes in EVERY word I write, it's a nightmare...
I hope they fix this issue in the next update.
Currently using ''smart keyboard pro'' which I think is one of the BEST keyboards, also being VERY customizable & comes with several great skins, all of which are great in their own way, even the colours you can change...
I think the note will be FAR superior once it gets the ice cream update and will be even smoother and faster than what it already is.
I found it initially lagged but after turning off most of the features it works OK now aside from occasional lags which I assume is due to some other application slowing it down. Its auto correct can be intermittent but I have it turned down as I don't want it too aggressive
Hey guys, I got to thinking and wondering what the fastest keyboard on the Android market is currently. I currently use SwiftKey and can get around 43 words per minute, which is slow compared to some here...
So, try your hand with your favorite keyboard with an app called WPM Mobile.
I also saw this recently... Looks interesting! Thoughts?
I saw where an IPhone user got around 80wpm with the stock iPhone keyboard! That's incredible.
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Hey guys, I got to thinking and wondering what the fastest keyboard on the Android market is currently. I currently use SwiftKey and can get around 43 words per minute, which is slow compared to some here...
So, try your hand with your favorite keyboard with an app called WPM Mobile.
I also saw this recently... Looks interesting! Thoughts?
I saw where an IPhone user got around 80wpm with the stock iPhone keyboard! That's incredible.
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55 wpm with Thumb Keyboard. Probably could hit 60 but i hate typing in portrait mode.
I just got the Keymonk keyboard and it's sweet!
I'm using the Google keyboard . its fast simple and pretty accurate
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in_dmand said:
I saw where an IPhone user got around 80wpm with the stock iPhone keyboard! That's incredible.
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Imagine if they had a phone with a screen larger than a postage stamp...
i've tried numerous and find the prediction superior in swift key and that is generally what saves me the most time when typing; plus their swift-flow (swype version) is pretty decent. So i one-hand it with the swift-flow and when using both hands between typing normally and the word prediction it saves me a lot. Sometimes certain sentences and phrases will be predicted and regardless of keyboard that is what saves you the ultimate amount of time.