Hi all,
Sorry if this sounds daft, but I have just been given the tech assult by a Telstra Australia guy.
Telstra uses a "Next G" network that used 850MHz and will state that ONLY phones bought through them will be able to fully utilise the network. Is this a firmware thing (IE, can I flash the radio rom) or a hardware thing? If I bought a device from anywhere else would I be able to utilise the speed of the "Next G" network? If not, what features would we be missing?
Cheers
Al
Frequncies is a hardware thing
some phones support that band as it's also used in usa you can check the wiki for the phone in question
if you have a quad band phone with 850 MHz, it should work ontelestra, the only features that might not work on it are features that have been cooked into the rom. Phone and generic features will work as the are standard to all hardware types.
If your phone is 3g capable, yes you will be able to use their updated 3g as the attachment to allow their network to work on your phone will be on a telstra sim card.
Hey guys, I'm interested in purchasing this phone. Only thing I'm wondering about is the 3g compatibility in North America, specifically on Rogers Wireless in Canada. I know it is not compatible out of the box but wondering if one is able to make it compatible. May sound like a stupid question but I'm unaware on our it works. Thought since there are many ROM updates that it can change the 3g frequency. Thanks in adavnce.
If it doesn't work out of the box, it's not gonna work. The frequencies are hardware specific, so no ROM change would make it work. I'm not familiar with your carrier, but look up its 3g frequencies and then check if they match with those of the HD. (make sure to check the Australian HD as well, as it has slightly different frequencies and can work on AT&T in the US, while the normal HD cannot)
if Rogers is on the 850 3G band, then the Telstra Touch HD should work. i have the Telstra HD and it works on at&t's 850 3G network. unfortuantely, you WILL NOT be able to change 3G bands with ROM updates.
So if I were to obtain the Telstra HD, I am still able to update the ROM on the phone correct? That would be awesome news if the Telstra HD works on our Rogers network. Has anyone in Canada tried it? If so were can I obtain a Telstra HD that will ship to Canada? Thanks for the help guys
Hi,
I have the Touch HD (T8282 so not Telstra which is T8285) in Canada on Fido (which is owned by Rogers and works on the same network) and it works perfectly, however only on the EDGE network for my data plan. I have to say that it is still pretty fast and I dont suffer from not having 3G that much.
I would actually recommend changing the ROM (I have Dutty but I tried L26 too), since it will then come with a Network Wizard that will automatically detect the network and configure your phone automatically ( as opposed to doing it manually with a standard ROM).
Hope this helps,
Can Australian users please tell me which radio rom they're using and whether they've had any problmes with the one they use?
I'm currently using "Radio 2.08.50.08_2" and the person on the other side of the phone seems to fade in and out, so i'm always asking them to repeat themselves...
When that happens, I look at the phone and there's almost full bars of reception.
I've also tried Radio "2.07.50.27_2" but that sems to do the same thing.
Thanks guys
hi mate,, my ROM version is 1.49.841.1(71528)wwwe
radio version 2.05.51.11
telestra user..
anish said:
hi mate,, my ROM version is 1.49.841.1(71528)wwwe
radio version 2.05.51.11
telestra user..
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hi anish.. fellow aussie!
i forgt to mention that i'm using Optus in Australia (using Dutty's 1.5 ROM)... i actually did try using the 2.05.51.11 when i first got the the fone... didnt actually notice any problems in that first day or two.
There's been so many newer versions since 2.05 and i'm hoping that someone has used a newer version and found it have no problems.
i'm just praying the problems i'm arent hardware-related
bobbified said:
Can Australian users please tell me which radio rom they're using and whether they've had any problmes with the one they use?
I'm currently using "Radio 2.08.50.08_2" and the person on the other side of the phone seems to fade in and out, so i'm always asking them to repeat themselves...
When that happens, I look at the phone and there's almost full bars of reception.
I've also tried Radio "2.07.50.27_2" but that sems to do the same thing.
Thanks guys
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I'm on Telstra and haven't noticed any issues
Hey,
I'm a high user of the next G network and I'm using radio 2.08 and I have no issues whatsoever.
Using Radio 2.08.50.08_2 and Miri's Version 6 Xtralite ROM on an HD2 bought from Telstra
SIM is 3G Telstra
No issues whatsoever - a clean ROM without Telstra's marketing straight-jacket, all radio functions (GSM/GPRS/3G/BT/GPS/WiFi) work perfectly, battery consumption minimal, Telstra's Roam works perfectly in other countries
In short, the best PDA I've ever had ... I like Acer's S200 very much as well, but its' hardware cannot access the UMTS 850Mhz frequency that Telstra uses in regional areas of Aus - the Telstra HD2 is hardware-unblocked for this frequency, of course
bobb
Unfortunately your problems is a hardware one. To have maximum optus coverage on 3g you need 2100 and 900 frequencies
The Telstra HD2 works on 850 and 2100, so you lose the 900 coverage, and can only run off 2100.
To maximise coverage you would need a new phone, or switch to Telstra
FWIW I've found the 2.07.51.22_2 radio best onTelstra so far (using stock HTC 1.66 wwe ROM)
t9193 from telstra
ozrom 1.60 6.5.5
2.08 radio
hobart tas
no problems at all,actually got better with all the latest
good luck
reggrd2000 said:
bobb
Unfortunately your problems is a hardware one. To have maximum optus coverage on 3g you need 2100 and 900 frequencies
The Telstra HD2 works on 850 and 2100, so you lose the 900 coverage, and can only run off 2100.
To maximise coverage you would need a new phone, or switch to Telstra
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Agreed, of course. If you purchased an HD2 from Telstra, it is hardware-filtered for UMTS 2100/850 Mhz. Optus broadcasts for 3G on UMTS 2100/900 Mhz, so Optus 3G will not work in regional areas on a Telstra-bought device - both devices will work on UMTS 2100 Mhz in the larger cities for 3G
That said, Telstra 3G area (distance) coverage at 850Mhz is very much larger than Optus 3G at 900Mhz
If you want an Optus 3G HD2, use an HD2 from (say) a UK supplier - this will be hardware-filtered for 2100/900 Mhz. For Optus, a cheaper (much) and equally powerful device is an Acer S200 from a UK dealer
None of this affects the GSM segment (normal phone conversations) of these devices
Email - through Telstra
I have no problems using Telstra and either stock or custom ROMs - except for emails.
For the life of me I can only send/receive emails when wi-fi is turned on.
It will NOT send/receive emails when wi-fi is turned off.
So I presume it is some settings.....
At the moment in Settings – connections – connection – advanced tab – select networks...
Telstra Internet (top pull down)
My Work Network (bottom pull down)
Any good suggestions ppl?
Cheers
FG
I use both Telstra and Vodafone in Oz and the best radio by far is 2.07.51.22_2.
No problem with email either way.
Cheers
radio
I'm using radio 2.08 and I have no issues whatsoever
I've found various differences between radio version on Telstra...but none of them are too bad really...
Telstra is a bad boy
Flash_Gordon said:
I have no problems using Telstra and either stock or custom ROMs - except for emails.
For the life of me I can only send/receive emails when wi-fi is turned on.
It will NOT send/receive emails when wi-fi is turned off.
FG
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Telstra stock ROM forces you to use proxy, with Telstra stock ROM you cannot untick the proxy. Telstra proxy blocks email sync unless you pay $7 per month.
Use other ROM, go to comm manager, menu, connections, you'll see "Telstra internet" and "setup my proxy server", untick "this network uses a proxy..."
In my case email works after removing the proxy.
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Telstra stock ROM forces you to use proxy, with Telstra stock ROM you cannot untick the proxy. Telstra proxy blocks email sync unless you pay $7 per month.
Use other ROM, go to comm manager, menu, connections, you'll see "Telstra internet" and "setup my proxy server", untick "this network uses a proxy..."
In my case email works after removing the proxy.
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Actually, I am using a "clean" non branded HD2...and as of last weekend have a custom Rom on it - although previous HTC ROM was good....but no email with either of them.....
Till now...!
Many Thanks....your solution worked for me
I'm using a Telstra version HD2 but on at&t 3G in the US. I am using radio 2.08.50.08_2 and haven't hadany issues at all.
Thanks guys
I forgot to mention that I tried switching the phone to 2G only before and the problem was still there.
I took into consideration the 850/900Mhz hardware issue at the time I bought the phone, but i wanted it so badly that i got the telstra one anyway because it's not often I venture into the regional areas where Optus operate their 3G 900Mhz system. Plus it was cheap on the telstra staff plan..
I flashed another ROM yesterday (Dutty's HG V1.2) that comes with the 2.08 radio - the problem didnt appear in any of the calls last night, so hopefully it's gone for good!
btw.. it's great to see other aussies on this board and their willingness to help out!
Nice to see people helping out. Yes the proxy thing is a problem so keep it unchecked
Cheers
bobbified said:
Thanks guys
I forgot to mention that I tried switching the phone to 2G only before and the problem was still there.
I took into consideration the 850/900Mhz hardware issue at the time I bought the phone, but i wanted it so badly that i got the telstra one anyway because it's not often I venture into the regional areas where Optus operate their 3G 900Mhz system. Plus it was cheap on the telstra staff plan..
I flashed another ROM yesterday (Dutty's HG V1.2) that comes with the 2.08 radio - the problem didnt appear in any of the calls last night, so hopefully it's gone for good!
btw.. it's great to see other aussies on this board and their willingness to help out!
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I think those that responded earlier were well-intentioned but your initial complaint had nothing to do with carrier frequency differences.
Personally - though I'm not in aus - I had horrible luck with the 2.08.50.08_2 radio, but much better with 2.08.50.05, which I am currently running.
If you look at the recent radios for our phone, you'll see some themes in the naming convention. Namely, 50., 51., and _2.
The 51 radios are NOT 512MB enabled, I know that for sure. I'm not positive on the exact difference between normal 50 and _2, but I know I get better performance, battery life, and audio quality with the 50!
In any case, that's my ramble, glad to hear you got it solved. If it comes back, just flash down to a different radio. Don't go before 2.06 if you're gonna use 'newer' ROMs, or your phone won't work!
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I think those that responded earlier were well-intentioned but your initial complaint had nothing to do with carrier frequency differences.
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I disagree with the " ... nothing to do with carrier frequency differences" section of your post
On the information supplied in the initial post, connecting to the internet for email transfer may well have been the underlying issue.
As it transpired, the poster doesn't much "venture" out of the city (predatory, carnivorous kangaroos, you know) so UMTS frequency in regional areas was not important
Hello,
I have been reading about HTC Vision Radio around posts here (For both the G2 and the D-Z).
I saw that that the hardware specs for the Radio bands are different between the 2 models and that people can actually flash the Radios from both models into the G2 device (Which I own).
Considering I use an Israeli operator that has 3G network only (known that its bands are 850/2100 here), My question is - Does updating the Radio for my device is actually controlling the bands I can use with it ???
In other words, The main Radio circuit supports all bands and then the Radio Firmware locks it to use the specific band for the specific operator ? (i.e. T-Mobile) ...
I would love to know if that's true, so I definitely need to upgrade/update to a working Radio for my operator since I know right now I'm using only the 2100 Band and I'm getting real reception issues.....
Thanks in advanced,
Amir.
You're asking whether changing radios can change the bands used by the device for calling/data? If so than no it can't, flashing a different radio can't change a Tmo G2 to use at&t 3g bands etc... That's pure hardware.
Sent from my T-Mobile G2
is any radio version compatible with any rom, and what is the difference between at&t and international versions of the atrix. I got my mobile from the US and I am using vodafone Egypt...... does this make me an international or us
So far as I know, the radio version is independent of the rom. So you could have an international Atrix with the proper radio for your version as well as the proper kernel, and a US rom. Most roms do not touch the radio.
When people speak of different versions of the Atrix, they are referring to where the phone was purchased. The us version is slightly different than the rest of the world, and as such requires a different Kernel.
If your version is an AT&T version from the US, then you would use the us based kernel and radio.
so I am a US model...... Can I flash a radio that is not meant for at&t.... as your answer meant that I can but the last sentence in your reply says I cannot
I am shopping around for another radio as I have problems with 3G connectivity. I cannot have data connection whatever I do and I removed the apns and restored defaults and made new ones with the proper settings, turned 2g and 3g on and off and tried putting it in the flight mode and changing the settings for GSM only or GSM prl auto and all the other settings with no effect.
does the us version uses different frequency I checked my operator and found that they are using UMTS 2100 MHz
do you have any ideas............ I ran out of them
aabarakat said:
so I am a US model...... Can I flash a radio that is not meant for at&t.... as your answer meant that I can but the last sentence in your reply says I cannot
I am shopping around for another radio as I have problems with 3G connectivity. I cannot have data connection whatever I do and I removed the apns and restored defaults and made new ones with the proper settings, turned 2g and 3g on and off and tried putting it in the flight mode and changing the settings for GSM only or GSM prl auto and all the other settings with no effect.
does the us version uses different frequency I checked my operator and found that they are using UMTS 2100 MHz
do you have any ideas............ I ran out of them
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before flashing the radio did you make sure your apn is set up properlY?
yes I did and used 2 sim cards from 2 different operators working with the same apn settings flawlessly on other phones (blackberry torch and htc touch diamond 2)
I think, thought I may be incorrect, that you need to stick with the at&t radio if your on the at&t phone? Maybe someone who knows more than me can chime in?
I was just meaning that the radio is a separate thing from the ROM that you have on the phone.
The atrix supports 2100 mhz, so I suspect if you are having problems that it is connected to your APN settings.
When you are in the APN menu, did you try resetting to default before adding your APN? I usually have to do that on mine before I can get data to work properly.