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Hey everyone,
I have the EVO 4g, and I'm getting to the point where I'm starting to consider rooting. The risks are a little scary as I would rather not get pooched and have to pay out the butt if something were to happen to my phone. So.. I'm wondering, should I root?
What are the benefits?
What is the best ROM in your opinion? Best for battery and function (meaning, I don't want to have to turn everything off for 30 hours of battery life). I'm currently using Launcher Pro Plus and I love it. Just wondering what my options are and what the XDA community thinks.
Why root.
jamehof said:
Hey everyone,
I have the EVO 4g, and I'm getting to the point where I'm starting to consider rooting. The risks are a little scary as I would rather not get pooched and have to pay out the butt if something were to happen to my phone. So.. I'm wondering, should I root?
What are the benefits?
What is the best ROM in your opinion? Best for battery and function (meaning, I don't want to have to turn everything off for 30 hours of battery life). I'm currently using Launcher Pro Plus and I love it. Just wondering what my options are and what the XDA community thinks.
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Rooting now is very simple, it is no longer a complicated process that will take you 30min. I was in the same mind frame as you before I rooted, but I have to tell you that it was a great thing for me. After seeing the difference between my phone (stock HTC EVO) and my friends rooted EVO (running CM6) I was blown away. Rooting basically gives you complete control to customize you phone. I then rooted my phone and went straight to CM6 (Cyanogen Mod 6). It is fast and has quite a few options that you just cant get without rooting. There are quite a few apps out there that are only available to the rooted phone. I also was not a big fan of sense, or the huge boat load of apps that Sprint had installed on my phone and was able to get rid of them when rooting. The only advice I can really give to you is to explore the XDA Forums, see the benefits of each ROM, and all the words that you dont know, find the definitions for and things will make more sense. There is a lot of nomenclature here. I am currently running Myn's Warm TwoPointTwo RLS1. It is a sense based ROM with a different theme. I hope this was helpful.
Maximiano said:
Rooting now is very simple, it is no longer a complicated process that will take you 30min. I was in the same mind frame as you before I rooted, but I have to tell you that it was a great thing for me. After seeing the difference between my phone (stock HTC EVO) and my friends rooted EVO (running CM6) I was blown away. Rooting basically gives you complete control to customize you phone. I then rooted my phone and went straight to CM6 (Cyanogen Mod 6). It is fast and has quite a few options that you just cant get without rooting. There are quite a few apps out there that are only available to the rooted phone. I also was not a big fan of sense, or the huge boat load of apps that Sprint had installed on my phone and was able to get rid of them when rooting. The only advice I can really give to you is to explore the XDA Forums, see the benefits of each ROM, and all the words that you dont know, find the definitions for and things will make more sense. There is a lot of nomenclature here. I am currently running Myn's Warm TwoPointTwo RLS1. It is a sense based ROM with a different theme. I hope this was helpful.
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Thanks for your response!
I have a couple of questions for you (or anyone else willing to answer):
1) I know rooting voids the warranty, but does unrooting make the warranty functional again? Can they tell that it's been rooted before?
2) I've been reading around and I've seen people simply go to unrevoked on their EVO, then root that way within a few minutes. I've also seen people connect it to their computer, install drivers, etc. Which is best? Are they the same basic principle, but one doesn't take as long?
3) I've been looking at Myn's TPT and I really like it. But I'm wondering how many hours I could get out of the battery using that rom. I'm also wondering what the best way to update that rom (when an update is released) is?
Thanks again! I look forward to getting the ball rolling and getting all the awesome features that my phone should include in the original pricetag!
jamehof said:
2) I've been reading around and I've seen people simply go to unrevoked on their EVO, then root that way within a few minutes. I've also seen people connect it to their computer, install drivers, etc. Which is best? Are they the same basic principle, but one doesn't take as long?
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Rooting with unrevoked is just a simple way of rooting. All the commands are entered for your automatically rather than manually using a comand prompt to flash images etc.
Alright, I did it. Used unrEVOked, and so far so good. I'm sticking with stock 2.2 for now until I can do enough research on quality ROM's.
I do have an additional question though..
I purchased SetCPU, but I've noticed that I can't "overclock" above 998mhz. Why is that? Isn't the processor a 1ghz? I wouldn't really consider that overclocking :-/
How do I get pass that so I can actually overclock it a little?
jamehof said:
Alright, I did it. Used unrEVOked, and so far so good. I'm sticking with stock 2.2 for now until I can do enough research on quality ROM's.
I do have an additional question though..
I purchased SetCPU, but I've noticed that I can't "overclock" above 998mhz. Why is that? Isn't the processor a 1ghz? I wouldn't really consider that overclocking :-/
How do I get pass that so I can actually overclock it a little?
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Only certain kernels allow you to overclock. Most custom ROMs come with custom kernels that allow you to overclock. You can also flash different kernels over a custom ROM. Just make sure that particular kernel is compatible with the ROM you are using.
jamehof said:
Hey everyone,
I have the EVO 4g, and I'm getting to the point where I'm starting to consider rooting. The risks are a little scary as I would rather not get pooched and have to pay out the butt if something were to happen to my phone. So.. I'm wondering, should I root?
What are the benefits?
What is the best ROM in your opinion? Best for battery and function (meaning, I don't want to have to turn everything off for 30 hours of battery life). I'm currently using Launcher Pro Plus and I love it. Just wondering what my options are and what the XDA community thinks.
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Wireless tether is enough of a reason to root for me. Try Ava. If you like Sense, you will love Ava. You will notice it is MUCH faster.
Ok...
No one has debated or have asked this question:
Should I root my Vibrant?
I'd like to actually see a debate whether or not rooting is better or stock is better. I know you have to root in order to do custom ROM, but what I'm trying to achieve on this thread is, the benefits of rooting (since I know there are plenty). I just want to give noobs and new users of Vibrant the flexibility of deciding whether they need to root, or not. I myself, have a rooted vibrant, and LOVE IT.
So, is rooting for me? Should I root the Vibrant? Or stick with the stock?
P.S.
I used "me" as an example. It isn't necessary that I want to ask the question, i just thought it's better if i put "me" on the question...
Rooting is ALWAYS better.
Certainly the VAST majority of people do not need to root their phones for any reason. I have several friends with Vibrants that are quite happy with their phones as-is.
You gain absolutely nothing by rooting your phone, there is absolutely no difference in any way shape or form except you can now do modifications that non-rooted phones can not. The question isn't whether to root or not, the question is whether or not you want to do something with/to your phone that requires root access.
For me, I would have had to stick with my Blackberry simply to have tethering ability, it is a feature I have had to use many, many times. Since I never got Kies working right, I had no choice but to root in order to install MobileAP which has been a real life saver for me when I absolutely had to have internet access on my laptop and their was no alternative. This is the same reason I had to root my wife's 3G Slide. She absolutely has to have internet access and it is her only means to get it in some places.
That will probably be the only reason for her. Me, being a techie, I have flash Franken-Twiz, Bionix 1.8, 1.9, and am now running Fusion and absolutely love my phone now.
djquick said:
Rooting is ALWAYS better.
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How come it is ALWAYS better? What makes rooting better for you?
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@ Kerry
Well put. Hopefully this would bring light to new users.
Personally, rooting is a must for me, because of the fact I'm always on the road, having a tethered phone has an advantage.
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I rooted because I could...
I like the ability to do different things with my phone - I'm not one to leave it stock if I don't have too.
but it's weird, I haven't jailbroke my ipod yet - never really felt the need to nor the desire.
with my phone (and this is my first android) it just seemed like the right thing to do, then after bricking during the OTA I dived right into flashing ROMs and overclocking...yeah, rooting like a gateway drug...and I'm so happy...
but I was the noob on rooting/flashing/ etc up until the other week...and now I have a flashing problem...hahahaha
I rooted my phone just to delete the bloatware.
There is a whole section of "things to do with root" in the general sticky....
I mean, that IS the reason to root... to open up options.
Want to control which apps can open at startup? Want to tether? Want to flash a custom rom? Want to overclock the processor? Want to get rid of bloatware? Want to create backups of your phone for an "oh $hit" moment?
I really do not see any reason not to. Especially since it is so easy to get back to stock/non-root.
I owned a G1 previously and never thought rooting was for me. Less than 2 weeks after getting my Vibrant I decided to give rooting a go and instantly loved it. I was actually mad at myself afterwards for not even considering rooting my G1 and running stock for almost 2 years. I don't even use custom ROMs but I love being able to take screen caps, Mobile AP, and being able to block ads.
djquick said:
Rooting is ALWAYS better.
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That depends on who is using the phone. I mean for someone that doesn't care for rom or doing anything other than making phone call, text, and browse the web, he or she will not really need to root. They will not find root better. Like my GF thinks root is too much work and hassle. For me, I think root is better since i actually like to try new roms and get updates before the OTA. Root will give you the ability to tether and use custom recovery to backup/restore.
Now to the OP, it just depends on what you are looking to do with your phone. If you are just using it to make calls and browse the web, you can just keep it unrooted. If you plan to use tethering or make any system changes, you will need to root. Also, if you root, it doesn't mean you have to do anything else to your phone. You can still keep it in its stock form and have the option to do whatever you want later. It's up to you.
Shakespeare Said it is better to root
Shakespeare says it is better to root Ahhhh .... Yes to Quote:
"to Root or not to root"... that is the question
"Is it better to suffer the slings and bloatware from the carrier" or to
Just Root the phone and make it more versatile, delete the bloat and do what and when you want to the phone YOU own
I personally never like outside controls on objects that I buy.... neither would Shakespeare
Rooting is always better unless you are only interested in the retail version only type device.
Listen to Kerry G he has it right
Tether
Just a note! I can tether with PDAnet using bluetooth and I'm not rooted.
Rooting isn't a requirment to tether, However there may be other options that do require root access.
Great feedback.
s15274n said:
There is a whole section of "things to do with root" in the general sticky....
I mean, that IS the reason to root... to open up options.
Want to control which apps can open at startup? Want to tether? Want to flash a custom rom? Want to overclock the processor? Want to get rid of bloatware? Want to create backups of your phone for an "oh $hit" moment?
I really do not see any reason not to. Especially since it is so easy to get back to stock/non-root.
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Lol, somehow i knew s15274n would reply. Not many people know that rooting is a good thing or a bad thing. They don't know that they got options. I've been reading and been surfing on XDA for a long time, I had an old handle here, when WinMo was popular. But then when i got promoted, I started to be on the road, i've lost touch (and my account i closed).
Many people I encounter across the country don't know why they should root, or skeptical to root. Since I got the Vibrant, i rooted it right away, and plenty of my clientèle are amazed of what that Android phone can do. Most have Crackberry, and I've led them to this site and found it very usefull.
They don't see the stickies, or such, so i made a thread that i could access on my phone to show them. They ask the same thing all the time, "Should I root/Why do you root/I'm afraid to root/I don't know Andriod" Most of them don't have the time to read stickies. SO, i tell them. But I tell them of what MY opinion is (and why I wanted to root), and so i decided to thread and ask other people's opinion on why they would root.
Great feedback guys
oka1 said:
Shakespeare says it is better to root Ahhhh .... Yes to Quote:
"to Root or not to root"... that is the question
"Is it better to suffer the slings and bloatware from the carrier" or to
Just Root the phone and make it more versatile, delete the bloat and do what and when you want to the phone YOU own
I personally never like outside controls on objects that I buy.... neither would Shakespeare
Rooting is always better unless you are only interested in the retail version only type device.
Listen to Kerry G he has it right
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Good one!
I want to know am I the only one that does not feel the need to root this phone. I mean I come from a g1 day one buyer mytouch 3g the g2 a nexus one, and I lived for installing roms just like everybody else I was flashing everyday lol. But on this I just don't want to I mean it's sorta perfect. I mean the no notification thing I hate. The samsung on back I hate. And a camara in the front that I can only use to look at my self what the hell is the point. how many pictures of my self can I really take? But the phone, the hardware gingerbread it perfect. What do u guys think?
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I certainly don't feel compelled to flash any custom roms or kernels on mine; it's damn close to perfect. There's a few CM or DocRambone extras I sort of miss, but it's nice to be off the ROM-A-Day or ROM-A-Week treadmill I'd gotten on with my Nexus One and Galaxy S phones.
Root, though, that's a much different story. There are still things you need Root for that I don't want to give up:
Screen captures.
Titanium Backup.
adb wireless widget
Not to mention just the feeling that it's my phone, and I should have full access to the file system if I want it.
You shouldn't feel pressured to root, though. If the phone does all you want and you're not missing any of the features root gives you, don't bother. No one will look down on you for it...
I can't live without Titanium Backup and other various root-required apps, so I definitely have to root. Plus, it's not like it's a complicated process.
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I don't feel like rooting mine either, at least for the moment. I feel mine is pretty perfect too. Considering I came from a G1 with Froyo and constantly lagging and taking 30 seconds to load the home screen, I am completely happy with my NS.
Rooting is mainly for tweakers who like to customize beyond the norm. I can't think of anything substantial it would provide me personally to do so. A little bit faster? Meh. Better battery life? Meh. HD video? Meh.
Yes its a great phone, but to purchase this phone and not tweak on it, that I will never understand...
Couldn't imagine running a non-rooted stock N1.... oh how far we've come!
jacksonj51 said:
Yes its a great phone, but to purchase this phone and not tweak on it, that I will never understand...
Couldn't imagine running a non-rooted stock N1.... oh how far we've come!
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I'm sure most will end up rooting it, but as it is right now some people don't feel the need since it's still quite early in life.
Honestly the only reason I rooted was to get rid of ads. Some of the other root only apps like Titanium (get rid of google earth, email (I only use gmail), etc) was nice but not needed.
I haven't decided yet if I am going to do ROMs although I probably will eventually do CM.
I totally felt the same way, until I found out my received MMS pics were compressed and thumbnail quality/resolution. I had to root and replace the Mms.apk, now it works fine.
vroomr4 said:
I totally felt the same way, until I found out my received MMS pics were compressed and thumbnail quality/resolution. I had to root and replace the Mms.apk, now it works fine.
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Ahh, that's interesting. I don't use MMS, but I've read numerous threads where people complain of the compression. I suggested they try Handcent or other 3rd party app to see if problem addressed, but most seemed to think it was a T-Mobile server setting.
What apk did you use to replace it with?
vroomr4 said:
I totally felt the same way, until I found out my received MMS pics were compressed and thumbnail quality/resolution. I had to root and replace the Mms.apk, now it works fine.
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Could you point me to where I can get that Mms.apk? I'm having the same problem. Thanks
I hadn't planned on rooting as quickly as I ended up doing....but waking up one morning to see that my stock device was bootlooping for fun caused me to rethink that one.
I still don't plan on flashing another rom, at least not yet. This is the first device that I've been happy with from the get go, and I'd like to keep that feeling for as long as I possibly can.
As fun and beneficial as rooting is, it'd be nice to get a "Google phone" with clean Android iterations already packed with all the features that rooting brings.
If developers can create better custom ROMs, why can't Google make these implementations themselves? It's a little baffling to me.
I think everything is ok on this device but I will still root because I love the freedom!
I also haven't thought about rooting, I used to flash new roms like 5 times a day on my faithful g1.
The only thing that bothers me is the compressed photos I get in the messaging app. Hopefully they will fix that soon.
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I've had the MT4G since it came out in November and I used to absolutely love it but recently it has become increasingly sluggish and certain aspects have become much less responsive.
Pulling down the notification bar is much less responsive than before as is installing apps. Apps take much longer to install and when I reset the phone it now takes FOREVER (3 or more minutes sometimes) for the apps that are installed on the SD card to become usable. This wouldn't bother me quite as much if it weren't for the fact that it didn't used to be like this.
I do have a lot of apps on the phone (around 200) but I have plenty of free space on both internal memory and the SD card. When I go into the running apps section of the app manager it doesn't appear like there are any unwanted background apps running - just the essentials.
I'm not sure what I could have done to slow it down so much but is anyone else having this problem and is there a known solution?
Thanks in advance.
Belvadier said:
I've had the MT4G since it came out in November and I used to absolutely love it but recently it has become increasingly sluggish and certain aspects have become much less responsive.
Pulling down the notification bar is much less responsive than before as is installing apps. Apps take much longer to install and when I reset the phone it now takes FOREVER (3 or more minutes sometimes) for the apps that are installed on the SD card to become usable. This wouldn't bother me quite as much if it weren't for the fact that it didn't used to be like this.
I do have a lot of apps on the phone (around 200) but I have plenty of free space on both internal memory and the SD card. When I go into the running apps section of the app manager it doesn't appear like there are any unwanted background apps running - just the essentials.
I'm not sure what I could have done to slow it down so much but is anyone else having this problem and is there a known solution?
Thanks in advance.
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Same thing happened to my friends mytouch. What ROM are you running? I rooted her phone and installed CM7 and she's even more in love with the phone as to her it's 100x faster. So maybe you can go that route? Or you can install Faux's Orange Glacier if you want mySense, maybe ext4 will help you.
I am running everything stock. My phone is not rooted or running any custom roms. I haven't rooted because there honestly isn't much for me to personally gain from it. I like the MT4G interface and appreciate the things that it does well and ignore or workaround the things that it doesn't.
Also, I know Gingerbread has been confirmed so it's just a matter of time. So I guess I've just not done it because it's easier and I'd like to avoid doing it.
The thing is, when I got it and it was stock it ran like a dream. In fact it ran like a dream for quite some time. It's only been quite recently that it's begun to decline...
Belvadier said:
I am running everything stock. My phone is not rooted or running any custom roms. I haven't rooted because there honestly isn't much for me to personally gain from it. I like the MT4G interface and appreciate the things that it does well and ignore or workaround the things that it doesn't.
Also, I know Gingerbread has been confirmed so it's just a matter of time. So I guess I've just not done it because it's easier and I'd like to avoid doing it.
The thing is, when I got it and it was stock it ran like a dream. In fact it ran like a dream for quite some time. It's only been quite recently that it's begun to decline...
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I dont like suggesting rooting/flashing to fix errors when its not needed, but in your case, it looks like it is. Because you say you like your rom, i would look at THIS one. Its the same as what you have now, but with root and you can get the version that has some of the bloatware removed. Hope I helped!
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I dont like suggesting rooting/flashing to fix errors when its not needed, but in your case, it looks like it is. Because you say you like your rom, i would look at THIS one. Its the same as what you have now, but with root and you can get the version that has some of the bloatware removed. Hope I helped!
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But why would this fix it? Something had to have happened to make it so sluggish. If you can't tell I really don't want to have to resort to rooting my device. Maybe I'm just not familiar enough with the functionality of a rooted phone: do all of the features work? (camera, gps, etc). Is it easy to update to a newer version of a custom ROM when a new one comes out? I don't really want to root because when an official Gingerbread update comes out I imagine it will be a nice and painless update whereas with rooting there is always that X factor that I could brick my phone and be worse off than I was before...
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But why would this fix it? Something had to have happened to make it so sluggish. If you can't tell I really don't want to have to resort to rooting my device. Maybe I'm just not familiar enough with the functionality of a rooted phone: do all of the features work? (camera, gps, etc). Is it easy to update to a newer version of a custom ROM when a new one comes out? I don't really want to root because when an official Gingerbread update comes out I imagine it will be a nice and painless update whereas with rooting there is always that X factor that I could brick my phone and be worse off than I was before...
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I got the hint originally that you dont want to root, but it really is the best option for you. All the features work, you can get those Gingerbread roms right now, if you would like. My favorite things about it are: WAY better performance, customization, choice of version of android, choice of Sense (or another UI overlay) or stock android, etc. I could go on forever with a list of whats better. If a new version of the ROM you are using is released: you download it to your SD card, (re)boot into recovery (something you will learn), three clicks of the trackpad and it will be flashing. Then you reboot and its all done!
If you would like, PM me and I'll walk you through all of it with links/guides/tips and opinions
EDIT: As far as the sluggish thing, i can guarantee you its something with the (currently stock) rom. I'm not saying its unfixable, but this is a good reason to go ahead and root, flash custom rom, etc.
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I got the hint originally that you dont want to root, but it really is the best option for you. All the features work, you can get those Gingerbread roms right now, if you would like. My favorite things about it are: WAY better performance, customization, choice of version of android, choice of Sense (or another UI overlay) or stock android, etc. I could go on forever with a list of whats better. If a new version of the ROM you are using is released: you download it to your SD card, (re)boot into recovery (something you will learn), three clicks of the trackpad and it will be flashing. Then you reboot and its all done!
If you would like, PM me and I'll walk you through all of it with links/guides/tips and opinions
EDIT: As far as the sluggish thing, i can guarantee you its something with the (currently stock) rom. I'm not saying its unfixable, but this is a good reason to go ahead and root, flash custom rom, etc.
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Just to add on to what he's saying:
But I can understand why you're hesitant. I think the sluggishness is just part of the stock ROM, every person I know that has the stock ROM it eventually slows down after some time. But a custom ROM should be faster because it's just lighter over all, it's been deodexed (whatever that means) and all that stuff plus bloatware taken out. Plus it would be in EXT 4 format which has proven to be faster. There's wonderful youtube tuts if you need em, and of course you got us!
You're aren't they only one with the sluggish phone. My wife told me that her phone started getting sluggish about two days ago. She's also stock and not wanting to root. She only has about 50 apps installed. So like others have said it's part of the stock rom.
You could always factory reset it and start from scratch. That will bring back its original speed but you will obviously lose all your apps.
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Having a faulty SD card or having a bad sector in the internal memory might also be a reason for it. In that case, formatting the "offender" will solve it (formatting internal memory means factory reset).
If I root my phone and install a custom ROM do I lose all my apps and/or other personal data? Also, which is the most highly recommended ROM for this phone? I'd like to use the most current and up-to-date one and preferably one where all the features work, etc...
I'm really unsure about this but I'm left with little other choice I suppose...
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If I root my phone and install a custom ROM do I lose all my apps and/or other personal data? Also, which is the most highly recommended ROM for this phone? I'd like to use the most current and up-to-date one and preferably one where all the features work, etc...
I'm really unsure about this but I'm left with little other choice I suppose...
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As others have said - if you truly don't want to root for whatever reason, your other option is to factory reset the phone, which will revert it to its original condition when you first got it. I for one totally support the rooting option, as it really does make you feel like you just upgraded your phone to a better model. Phone will be faster, more responsive, and offer better battery life (depending on the rom you flash). Plus, you just get a world of customizable possibilities that aren't available to you on stock. You can choose between Sense (and many different versions of Sense at that), stock/AOSP (i.e. cm7), or even something totally different like MIUI.
If you do decide to root, but enjoy the stock experience, I'd suggest Iced Glacier (correct me if I'm wrong) which is pretty much the stock UI with bloatware removed...or if you want to try a different version of Sense, I'm on Royal Panache right now, which is gingerbread Sense 2.1, and it's really awesome and works flawlessly.
You can use Titanium Backup to backup your apps/data and then restore them after you've either rooted and flashed a new rom, or factory reset...hopefully someone else will confirm this, because I'm not sure off-hand if you need to be rooted to be able to backup/restore.
sunsean said:
As others have said - if you truly don't want to root for whatever reason, your other option is to factory reset the phone, which will revert it to its original condition when you first got it. I for one totally support the rooting option, as it really does make you feel like you just upgraded your phone to a better model. Phone will be faster, more responsive, and offer better battery life (depending on the rom you flash). Plus, you just get a world of customizable possibilities that aren't available to you on stock. You can choose between Sense (and many different versions of Sense at that), stock/AOSP (i.e. cm7), or even something totally different like MIUI.
If you do decide to root, but enjoy the stock experience, I'd suggest Iced Glacier (correct me if I'm wrong) which is pretty much the stock UI with bloatware removed...or if you want to try a different version of Sense, I'm on Royal Panache right now, which is gingerbread Sense 2.1, and it's really awesome and works flawlessly.
You can use Titanium Backup to backup your apps/data and then restore them after you've either rooted and flashed a new rom, or factory reset...hopefully someone else will confirm this, because I'm not sure off-hand if you need to be rooted to be able to backup/restore.
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I know titanium backup needs root before you're able to use it. He won't lose anything of he gains root. He'll be able to use it after root.
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I know titanium backup needs root before you're able to use it. He won't lose anything of he gains root. He'll be able to use it after root.
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Thanks, wasn't sure if you had to be rooted to backup/restore - so to the OP, either way if you factory reset or root/flash a rom, you'll lose your apps. In that case, next best option is to make sure you sync google backup right before whatever you decide to do, so after you reset/root, your google market apps should automatically be restored to your device. Obviously, same goes with contacts, they will automatically restore to your device provided you have it synced with google.
If you decide to root, you won't have to worry about this again as after that you can use Titanium to backup/restore apps and data when you flash different roms. Pain in the butt, but better than the alternative of having a phone that doesn't run well.
I understand the hesitation with rooting, I was the same initially, but I promise you - if you don't mind putting in a little extra time and energy, the benefits are substantial. Obviously you're into your phone enough to register with XDA, so I encourage you to explore it. I'm not a hardcore tech-savvy guy, rooting is pretty painless as long as you read a bit before you do it.
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Thanks, wasn't sure if you had to be rooted to backup/restore - so to the OP, either way if you factory reset or root/flash a rom, you'll lose your apps. In that case, next best option is to make sure you sync google backup right before whatever you decide to do, so after you reset/root, your google market apps should automatically be restored to your device. Obviously, same goes with contacts, they will automatically restore to your device provided you have it synced with google.
If you decide to root, you won't have to worry about this again as after that you can use Titanium to backup/restore apps and data when you flash different roms. Pain in the butt, but better than the alternative of having a phone that doesn't run well.
I understand the hesitation with rooting, I was the same initially, but I promise you - if you don't mind putting in a little extra time and energy, the benefits are substantial. Obviously you're into your phone enough to register with XDA, so I encourage you to explore it. I'm not a hardcore tech-savvy guy, rooting is pretty painless as long as you read a bit before you do it.
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No, you misunderstood what you quoted, you dont lose anything during the rooting process. You can sit with the stock ROM w/ root, JUST like how you had it before the rooting process without doing any extra steps.
@OP, The rom I linked you to on the first page was the stock ROM that you are running now, but debloated and few minor features added. You can do that, but now there are quite a few *stable* Gingerbread ROMs w/ Sense(2.0,2.1,3.0).
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No, you misunderstood what you quoted, you dont lose anything during the rooting process. You can sit with the stock ROM w/ root, JUST like how you had it before the rooting process without doing any extra steps.
@OP, The rom I linked you to on the first page was the stock ROM that you are running now, but debloated and few minor features added. You can do that, but now there are quite a few *stable* Gingerbread ROMs w/ Sense(2.0,2.1,3.0).
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Oh yeah, duh...I was thinking if he rooted and flashed a new rom, forgot that he can still stay stock with root, and back up before flashing anything
Forgive me if anyone already suggested this, but have you tried rebooting? I didn't read all the text because I keep seeing people talking about ROMS and rooting. My myTouch does the same thing and restarting always fixes it.
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Forgive me if anyone already suggested this, but have you tried rebooting? I didn't read all the text because I keep seeing people talking about ROMS and rooting. My myTouch does the same thing and restarting always fixes it.
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Yeah, I reboot frequently - sometimes several times per day. As a last ditch effort before giving in to the root I got LauncherPro and have to say that it has solved like 75% of the problems I was having. SD programs still take their time loading on a reboot but homescreen switching is much faster as is app drawer scrolling (and scrolling in general really) and app launching is also quite a bit snappier.
The only caveat is that it really feels like now my battery is draining faster than it did before although the battery monitor doesn't show any abnormal amounts for any programs...
I was also taking a look at the memory usage and I was averaging around 168mb free which seems awfully low for a device with 768mb of RAM although there didn't seem to be that much stuff running either...
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Oh yeah, duh...I was thinking if he rooted and flashed a new rom, forgot that he can still stay stock with root, and back up before flashing anything
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lol its ok, we all have our sunsean moments hehehe
@OP, convinced that rooting is eternal happiness and stock is the devil yet?
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I was also taking a look at the memory usage and I was averaging around 168mb free which seems awfully low for a device with 768mb of RAM although there didn't seem to be that much stuff running either...
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Why, it's OK actually- Android (Linux-based) RAM management has a different behavior- compared to Windows. You can use Task Killers but whatever RAM you free will soon be occupied again.
Hi all,
Really am new to all this. bought my DHD yesterday and the screen broke within hours, so after returning it for new one today i have a new phone again.
Few questions i would like to ask, that even after searching and doing some research i am still unsure of.
So.. i get my phone and it has alot of spam apps on it. in order for me to remove these i need to 'root' my device. i think i understand what that is, not 100% what i can do with it.
i wanted to ask.. if i were to update to gingerbread 2.3, would i have to root first, remove spam apps, then update or would that just put the apps back?
also a question about these ROMs ive seen people chatting about. Are these just similar to windows based themes? wall papers,annimations,sounds etc?
To sum up, i am looking to get rid of crappy apps and just browse around my (latest, aka gingerbread 2.3) stock software for a few weeks before installing a different theme or whatever they are.
Sorry if this seems simple, i have just switched from Apple Os which is so much more user friendly imo.
Thanks for any replies
I highly recommend getting a tpu case and screen protector before proceeding.
I voided my warranty and your mum.
pukemon said:
I highly recommend getting a tpu case and screen protector before proceeding.
I voided my warranty and your mum.
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I have a case now and that was the worst an most useless post I have ever seen.
Root and soff first. Install a custom 2.3 rom like leedroid or rcmix then all the spam will be gone. Follow the guides in the dev section.
Sent from my Motorola Startac running Atari 2600 software!
pwraggcan said:
Root and soff first. Install a custom 2.3 rom like leedroid or rcmix then all the spam will be gone. Follow the guides in the dev section.
Sent from my Motorola Startac running Atari 2600 software!
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Thank you.
Dowsett said:
i wanted to ask.. if i were to update to gingerbread 2.3, would i have to root first, remove spam apps, then update or would that just put the apps back?
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I suggest you to root first then install a custom ROM.
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also a question about these ROMs ive seen people chatting about. Are these just similar to windows based themes? wall papers,annimations,sounds etc?
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Those are custom ROM, which developers uses stock ROM as base. They modified, customized and tweaked it, so it is much faster and more battery saving than stock ROM.
To flash a custom ROM, you can find guide in the development section.
Dowsett said:
Hi all,
Really am new to all this. bought my DHD yesterday and the screen broke within hours, so after returning it for new one today i have a new phone again.
Few questions i would like to ask, that even after searching and doing some research i am still unsure of.
So.. i get my phone and it has alot of spam apps on it. in order for me to remove these i need to 'root' my device. i think i understand what that is, not 100% what i can do with it.
i wanted to ask.. if i were to update to gingerbread 2.3, would i have to root first, remove spam apps, then update or would that just put the apps back?
also a question about these ROMs ive seen people chatting about. Are these just similar to windows based themes? wall papers,annimations,sounds etc?
To sum up, i am looking to get rid of crappy apps and just browse around my (latest, aka gingerbread 2.3) stock software for a few weeks before installing a different theme or whatever they are.
Sorry if this seems simple, i have just switched from Apple Os which is so much more user friendly imo.
Thanks for any replies
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Welcome to Android World! Here you will find all your answers related to your Android OS.
Since you have not rooted your device. It's hard to get rid of some the built in apps.
in simple words if you are not aware of this stuff > Rooting your phone means becoming an Administrator of your device, where you can do what you like, like full control on (PC.
Check this link for all the details you need.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=936214
I highly recommend getting screen protector
pukemon said:
I highly recommend getting a tpu case and screen protector before proceeding.
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saimon05 said:
I highly recommend getting screen protector
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You two sir, are meanie.
But then, consider using the 2+ clear protector for the front and rear for maximum protection.
Meanie? I thought I it was good advice. If he wants to disregard our advice he is more than welcome to bust up his phone again. Kinda hard to flash stuff if your phone is broken.
I voided my warranty and your mum.
When I bought my DHD I was so into it I decided to make a personal website.
It has various rom screenshot examples, some videos and an up-to-date list of roms here at XDA. You can check it out via my sig.
I put it together with people like you in mind.
Maybe it can help or at least inspire you.
I try most roms and my current one is MIUI 1.8.26 V.2: FRESHLY SQUEEZED EDITION™ By MrGarak.
Screenshots of it are here.
Enjoy your DHD!
I still thoroughly enjoy mine.
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Meanie? I thought I it was good advice. If he wants to disregard our advice he is more than welcome to bust up his phone again. Kinda hard to flash stuff if your phone is broken.
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I actually did agree with you @pukemon, and I support it 100%.
But this...
Dowsett said:
...the screen broke within hours...
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So sad. Or maybe bad luck. Anyway, good luck unlocking your phone!
Hi there welcome to Android.
all that rooting isn't really obligatory, more of a fun thing to do actually. Most of the time ROM's from xda developers are better optimized and faster than the ones coming from HTC, but HTC aren't horrible developers.
For hiding crappy apps you could install an alternative launcher (i use GO Launcher EX) which allows you to hide certain apps. This way you'll never see them but the niceties of the Sense UI will be gone also (some of them). However Go Launcher is quite customizable.
and btw, this is the big thing with android, customization. You can change almost anything about it only sometimes needing root to do it.
It's a great OS and if iOS is friendly to noobs, Android is not as friendly (a bit of a learning curve but not steep) but it does let them show of a lot more.