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Can't have it all I guess? (Not really a rant thread)

Hello xda-ers!
I have been stalking around, tasting everybody's cooking for a couple of weeks now, and i have got to get something off my chest.
I did search, I do realize that what I am looking for can not be made and that its no one's fault (I might be giving htc a meaningful look right now).
I like a whole lot of roms and chefs here, I really do, but the rom I'm after seems to not exist - one of two options:
1. A hero rom with all the eyecandy, that's donut based for compatibility with newer apps like goggles and the like.
2. An Eclair rom that has video and youtube working.
And so I would like to ask of you wizzies, is there light at the end of the tunnel? Are things comming around? How do you see it?
Correct me if I'm wrong, hardware-ish the mytouch is 36 MB of ram shorter then a hero and a has a lesser camera, but its not like the hero is running its os on its last bits of ram or anything so basically what the hero can do the mytouch can do, no? Is it safe to assume that when the hero\magic gets an update (and I do hope that it does) someone could pull over some driver support for eclair or something?
Thank you all so much for all your hard work, you guys are the reason I love smartphones so much, I'm dirt poor but i promise I'll buy you guys a round of beer once I get out of college

Its a matter of time bro. Be batient. A month ago, none of the eclair roms had camera. Now they all do. A month before that none of the eclair roms had N1 voice keyboard. Now they all do. God knows what some of these amazing roms will have and do a month from now. [/good deed for the year]

Love the FAQ sig lol

mnissan said:
Correct me if I'm wrong, hardware-ish the mytouch is 36 MB of ram shorter then a hero and a has a lesser camera, but its not like the hero is running its os on its last bits of ram or anything so basically what the hero can do the mytouch can do, no? Is it safe to assume that when the hero\magic gets an update (and I do hope that it does) someone could pull over some driver support for eclair or something?
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What?
MT3G has 192MB Ram just like Dream but has 512 ROM like Hero.Hero has 288MB RAM.

Macrophage001 said:
Love the FAQ sig lol
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^5 to you bro

mnissan said:
1. A hero rom with all the eyecandy, that's donut based for compatibility with newer apps like goggles and the like.
2. An Eclair rom that has video and youtube working.
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1. The devs aren't the ones making the actual hero, they just make hero work with our phones. They can't just say "I want you to be donut", and it be donut. Htc decided to skip donut, and the devs can't do much about that. They can however give you 2.0 hero which is scattered about the forum.
2. Drivers, drivers, drivers. You know, the thing that appears in almost every first post for this problem

JAguirre1231 said:
1. The devs aren't the ones making the actual hero, they just make hero work with our phones. They can't just say "I want you to be donut", and it be donut. Htc decided to skip donut, and the devs can't do much about that. They can however give you 2.0 hero which is scattered about the forum.
2. Drivers, drivers, drivers. You know, the thing that appears in almost every first post for this problem
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As I've said, I realize that.
My point is that apperently you can't cook rosie\sense\whatever onto a 1.6 rom without htc (Ref: "I might be giving HTC a meaningful look") and at the same time you can cook it onto a 2.0 rom - which means broken video drivers.
I'm sure there's a good reason for it, and this is not a rant, just needed to let steam out I guess.

mnissan said:
As I've said, I realize that.
My point is that apperently you can't cook rosie\sense\whatever onto a 1.6 rom without htc (Ref: "I might be giving HTC a meaningful look") and at the same time you can cook it onto a 2.0 rom - which means broken video drivers.
I'm sure there's a good reason for it, and this is not a rant, just needed to let steam out I guess.
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Well steam out in the right section next time

JAguirre1231 said:
Well steam out in the right section next time
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LOL +2000
"if" you had searched you could have found answers to both of your questions... and maybe posted in the correct section.
maybe that "I might be giving HTC a meaningful look" should be turned into "i actually searched and posted in the Q&A section or the I didn't read before posting..."
No offence but seriously if you would have searched you would have found those 2 answers in almost every thread that had to do with hero or eclair...

mnissan said:
As I've said, I realize that.
My point is that apperently you can't cook rosie\sense\whatever onto a 1.6 rom without htc (Ref: "I might be giving HTC a meaningful look") and at the same time you can cook it onto a 2.0 rom - which means broken video drivers.
I'm sure there's a good reason for it, and this is not a rant, just needed to let steam out I guess.
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I think someone leaked an HTC branded Eclair ROM with the "rosie/sense/whatever," and that's why you see it cooked into a 2.0 ROM.

Bless him, don't be to hard its obvious he needs a carer

shadowch31 said:
Bless him, don't be to hard its obvious he needs a carer
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Im sorry if i hurt anyones feelings....uh not really but serious on the searching!
if i did hurt your feelings feel free to express your feelings to someone else because either you are too sensitive or it my be that time of month... use the Ipad and get over it!
Have a GREAT DAY!

Sxyman815 said:
Im sorry if i hurt anyones feelings....uh not really but serious on the searching!
if i did hurt your feelings feel free to express your feelings to someone else because either you are too sensitive or it my be that time of month... use the Ipad and get over it!
Have a GREAT DAY!
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iTampon's come with strings for easy removal.

JAguirre1231 said:
iTampon's come with strings for easy removal.
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iAlwaysPantyLiners come with wings!

Well, this has gone off topic very quickly. Not that it was technically on topic to begin with since it was posted in the wrong place...

fiktion said:
Well, this has gone off topic very quickly. Not that it was technically on topic to begin with since it was posted in the wrong place...
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It went off topic at the same rate the iPad went from wanted to ridiculed. What's so bad about that?

Well back on topic/kinda...
Do we know for sure that htc will release the necessary drivers for video playback/camera? It sounds like some people are positive we'll get them eventually...I switched back to donut because I like being able to watch youtube, but its amazing how far along eclair roms have come, and mad props to NCommander for reverse engineering the camera drivers. Without him we'd still have no camera at this point. But I was just wondering if its confirmed or not that we will indeed get those drivers from htc one day.

Well, T-Mobile is teasing us with an Eclair update for our phones. We shall see.

What I would REALLY like is a ROM that is smooth and as responsive and the one on the iPhone. Doesn't need fancy apps, just the basic things like Messaging, Phone, Browser, camera/camcorder, apps of course. Anyone else think the same? It's what I have been looking for , for a long time

Snipe175 said:
What I would REALLY like is a ROM that is smooth and as responsive and the one on the iPhone. Doesn't need fancy apps, just the basic things like Messaging, Phone, Browser, camera/camcorder, apps of course. Anyone else think the same? It's what I have been looking for , for a long time
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There's actually one like that, it's called iPhone OS. I suggest you buy an iPhone and try it

Dual-Boot HTC HD2 Windows Mobile/Android

Hey I am new to flashing. I have changed the roms on g1's, and on the nexus one per different youtube vidoes and stuff i have read in this forum.
Yesterday i purchased the HD2 and to my horror found out that it was running on Windows Mobile (WTF). So i have been loking around and I saw that in the past the forum has been able to get Touch Pro 2 that run on WM6.5 to dual boot into android.
So I am hoping that the same can be done with the HD2. So is the HSPL2 listed in this forum the beginning steps to this process or what? Has anyone yet setup the HD2 to run on android?
I know this is wordy but I just want to make it understood that I am new and I want to learn and that I have the desire to get android on my HD2.
thanks any suggested reading is welcome as the steps to get android on this awesome phone that HTC FUBAR'd with WM6.5

The HD2 cannot run android at this time.

oberonblaq said:
Hey I am new to flashing. I have changed the roms on g1's, and on the nexus one per different youtube vidoes and stuff i have read in this forum.
Yesterday i purchased the HD2 and to my horror found out that it was running on Windows Mobile (WTF). So i have been loking around and I saw that in the past the forum has been able to get Touch Pro 2 that run on WM6.5 to dual boot into android.
So I am hoping that the same can be done with the HD2. So is the HSPL2 listed in this forum the beginning steps to this process or what? Has anyone yet setup the HD2 to run on android?
I know this is wordy but I just want to make it understood that I am new and I want to learn and that I have the desire to get android on my HD2.
thanks any suggested reading is welcome as the steps to get android on this awesome phone that HTC FUBAR'd with WM6.5
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No, it's not quite there at this time. However, while I understand your opinion, I don't think HTC "FUBAR'd" at all. I've had a few Android devices and this phone is AMAZING, even with WM.

this has been discussed already at length.. if you look in the ROMS section of the forum you'll find it ..
And it is NOT going to happen soon..

Android on the HD2 will be amazing! Hopefully they can get it ported by summer to compete with the HTC EVO.

King Royalty said:
Android on the HD2 will be amazing! Hopefully they can get it ported by summer to compete with the HTC EVO.
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i believe that is the plan to see how the EVO goes.. but here's the link to the other thread..
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=637029

...this is not true,
There is an engineer at the local Tmobile call center dual booting Android and winmo. He runs Android off of the card itself. The phone that is dual booting is at the kiosk at the LaPlaza mall in Mcallen TX and has been used as their demo phone.
How is he doing it? I have no idea, but hes told myself and a Tmobile sales buddy that he'll help us out with it.

So, you purchased the phone without realizing its a WM phone, and have the balls to complain, all because you didnt read, and now are asking if you can put android on it...lazy much?
I suppose you want someone to flash it for you too, or better yet start another thread asking how to do that...

Didn't you see the windows mobile on the box...

tuck4x4 said:
...this is not true,
There is an engineer at the local Tmobile call center dual booting Android and winmo. He runs Android off of the card itself. The phone that is dual booting is at the kiosk at the LaPlaza mall in Mcallen TX and has been used as their demo phone.
How is he doing it? I have no idea, but hes told myself and a Tmobile sales buddy that he'll help us out with it.
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You're saying he's booting android on a hd2? I doubt it. Are you sure its not a TP2? There is an andriod port for the TP2.

I'm not sure how you purchased the phone without knowing the underlying OS, but I'm guessing you bought it in the US for Tmobile. If that is the case, and I'm guessing it is, then you can't flash any ROMs for it yet because of the different SPL.
tuck4x4 said:
...this is not true,
There is an engineer at the local Tmobile call center dual booting Android and winmo. He runs Android off of the card itself. The phone that is dual booting is at the kiosk at the LaPlaza mall in Mcallen TX and has been used as their demo phone.
How is he doing it? I have no idea, but hes told myself and a Tmobile sales buddy that he'll help us out with it.
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I seriously doubt this. Maybe you had it confused with an HD or a TP2, but I doubt xda wouldn't know about this...especially since it's most likely to originate here. A picture to prove this would be great, but I don't expect it.

zarathustrax said:
You're saying he's booting android on a hd2? I doubt it. Are you sure its not a TP2? There is an andriod port for the TP2.
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it sounds sketch but a guy at my tmobile told me that HTC had given one of the coworkers a website run by themself that had android software for the HD2. So hearing that i find it believable.

zstjohn said:
it sounds sketch but a guy at my tmobile told me that HTC had given one of the coworkers a website run by themself that had android software for the HD2. So hearing that i find it believable.
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Oh hey, it's another case of "A moron rep was spewing nonsense and i actually believed him." Go back and ask the rep if he could show you WP7S running on HD2.

lude219 said:
Oh hey, it's another case of "A moron rep was spewing nonsense and i actually believed him." Go back and ask the rep if he could show you WP7S running on HD2.
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Look, senor tinyballs. If you don't like what i have to say then ignore it. Here-say is here-say i never said it was fact.

zstjohn said:
Look, senor tinyballs. If you don't like what i have to say then ignore it. Here-say is here-say i never said it was fact.
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it was enough for you to believed him.

Someone please close this thread, it's going nowhere useful. Destination Flameville.

foney said:
So, you purchased the phone without realizing its a WM phone, and have the balls to complain, all because you didnt read, and now are asking if you can put android on it...lazy much?
I suppose you want someone to flash it for you too, or better yet start another thread asking how to do that...
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Bro are you for real?! Please dont waste my time with that smart mouth crap unless you are adding solutions along with it. I am not knocking your opinion I am just stating that maybe you should adjust the delivery system. Cause we both can play the a$$hole game and I promise you thats one I will not lose. So be constructive or dont post.
thanks

oberonblaq said:
Hey I am new to flashing. I have changed the roms on g1's, and on the nexus one per different youtube vidoes and stuff i have read in this forum.
Yesterday i purchased the HD2 and to my horror found out that it was running on Windows Mobile (WTF). So i have been loking around and I saw that in the past the forum has been able to get Touch Pro 2 that run on WM6.5 to dual boot into android.
So I am hoping that the same can be done with the HD2. So is the HSPL2 listed in this forum the beginning steps to this process or what? Has anyone yet setup the HD2 to run on android?
I know this is wordy but I just want to make it understood that I am new and I want to learn and that I have the desire to get android on my HD2.
thanks any suggested reading is welcome as the steps to get android on this awesome phone that HTC FUBAR'd with WM6.5
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wow, to buy a phone and later realize what os it's running on. that's just realy wow.
oberonblaq said:
Bro are you for real?! Please dont waste my time with that smart mouth crap unless you are adding solutions along with it. I am not knocking your opinion I am just stating that maybe you should adjust the delivery system. Cause we both can play the a$$hole game and I promise you thats one I will not lose. So be constructive or dont post.
thanks
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you want solutions and are talking about constructive? how about using the search button? this question is already been asked like 100 times?

I would just like to thank everyone that replied. I guess i just need to wait a bit longer for the xda big brains to resolve this issue. I just thought that it would have been a simpler thing to do since the HD2 in UK had been flashed to run android. I have plenty on time and money so I can buy another device and wait.
Thanks again all.

oberonblaq said:
HD2 in UK had been flashed to run android
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News to me! I've seen it running on other devices, but even then it's beta, with various functionality still unavailable, WIFI etc.
If you wanted Android, a little research before hand should and would have been wise, i.e. waiting for the EVO to be released.
I like WinMo 6.5. It may not be as pretty as Android or iPhone OS (without the Sense gui which is quite lovely imho) but it's a very versatile and an incredibly powerful tool in the hands of the right user. If you're in a business environment, using Microsoft equipment, exchange servers etc, there is not an more efficient handheld device to carry in you pocket (again, imho).

Flash Player?

I am running CyanogenMod 6 (just installed it..it rocks!) on a Cellular South HTC Hero. One thing I'm trying to figure out is how to get Flash Player installed and working. Whenever I try to install Flash Player 10.1, it starts installing and then says "Not Installed". I downloaded the Flash Showcase to see if I'm really missing Flash Player, and it confirms that I don't have it. How can I get Flash Player installed?

Not gonna work like that, our phones are arm6 flash is for arm7, although there is flash "lite" on sense roms
Sent from my HERO200 using XDA App

I love xda's 'newest' addition: The Search Button

kyouko said:
I love xda's 'newest' addition: The Search Button
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@kyouko - What makes it even funnier are those that choose to spend their time by acting like a smart butt to others in this "community" without considering the fact that they could very well have searched the site, but due to the sheer number of results returned, the specific information they were looking for was not found. But hey, why waste time using your head when you can act like you did in order to exhibit such immaturity and try to impress some 12 or 13 year old?
@westicle - thank you very much for the answer.

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@kyouko - What makes it even funnier are those that choose to spend their time by acting like a smart butt to others in this "community" without considering the fact that they could very well have searched the site, but due to the sheer number of results returned, the specific information they were looking for was not found. But hey, why waste time using your head when you can act like you did in order to exhibit such immaturity and try to impress some 12 or 13 year old?
@westicle - thank you very much for the answer.
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Haha I'm not here to start a **** slinging contest and since you haven't been here for a while I guess you wouldn't know that all I pretty much do here and the IRC is help others. All I'm saying the clutter of these repetitive threads would be unnecessary if people took the time to actually search.
It wasn't intended to be a personal attack, merely a statement in general for all those who will look at this thread
I took the liberty of attempting the search for what you want myself:
My search of adobe flash install
Fourth Result
Thread Result
And westicle would be correct, it's not developed for our phone's processor

nfinitiefx45's sense roms have full flashplayer 10.1. he had to do a bit of work but he finally got it to work.

Let's stop the bickering guys... we're all here to help out each other.

I wonder.... are they going to whip there dongs out and have a sword fight?¿? Lol
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Let's stop the bickering guys... we're all here to help out each other.
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Sent from my FroYoed Hero

Anyone have any luck with the new Netflix released today?

Anybody able to try out the new APK they are talking about here?
http://www.engadget.com/2011/05/26/netflix-updates-android-app-expands-device-support/
And yes I know it works on the GB leak on our phones, but that ROM has absolutely horrible data/radio/wifi issues!

I wonder if it makes a difference to have the new Chainfire3D app installed and the additional plug-ins loaded
Gonna see if I can get it working, once I get home..

Not I. Can't find it in the market app, and going through the website says 'unsupported device'.
I run stock EC05 - no mods at all.

anyone have a copy of the latest version of this app?

DCRocks said:
I wonder if it makes a difference to have the new Chainfire3D app installed and the additional plug-ins loaded
Gonna see if I can get it working, once I get home..
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also have chainfire installed and tried with all three drivers. Still no luck. Everything works up until I try to watch a video. I hear sound for a cuple of seconds. But its sped up and it goes back to the browser right after
Tapatalkin' it from my Epic 3g

From everything I've read about this on different forums......the only way it'll work with our Hummingbird chipsets is if we're on Gingerbread. This is because Gingerbread uses a different file structure which optimizes video for the Hummingbird processor
Ginberbread was written completely around and optimized to take full potential of the Hummingbird processor!

Leeboy said:
From everything I've read about this on different forums......the only way it'll work with our Hummingbird chipsets is if we're on Gingerbread. This is because Gingerbread uses a different file structure which optimizes video for the Hummingbird processor
Ginberbread was written completely around and optimized to take full potential of the Hummingbird processor!
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I hope you are wrong

hardrock121 said:
I hope you are wrong
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lollolloll

Please stop threads like this... I already made an explaination thread.
Did the news get around about a guy named butcher pete?

digiblur said:
Anybody able to try out the new APK they are talking about here?
http://www.engadget.com/2011/05/26/netflix-updates-android-app-expands-device-support/
And yes I know it works on the GB leak on our phones, but that ROM has absolutely horrible data/radio/wifi issues!
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You may not be having good results with the data due to your modem, try using the EE03 modem with the rom or viceversa, I'm using it and despite a few lags, it works perfectly And Netflix streams great over 3G

marcusant said:
Please stop threads like this... I already made an explaination thread.
Did the news get around about a guy named butcher pete?
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This one was started before yours.

digiblur said:
This one was started before yours.
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I am aware. My thread is an explination on why it will never work.
Did the news get around about a guy named butcher pete?

[ANDROID] [DUMP] Android Touchpad System and Images (UPDATED 26-AUG-11 )

I dont know if anyone cares or not but I believe the more people gets on in this the better and we also get to achieve android faster. I wonder if their are any devs on XDA that wants the android system dump from off the touchpad. Hopefully we can put this to good use. Apprently people from all over are dumping and those few people wasnt the only ones.
I DID NOT DUMP THIS ROM!!! I FOUND IT ON THE NET!! IM ONLY POSTING IT BECAUSE I DONT SEE IT HERE. I TAKE NO CREDIT FOR THIS!
Otherwise ENJOY
NEW DUMP:http://www.multiupload.com/BO2JSPTVB0
BTW this is a froyo dump
*UPDATED NEW DUMP LINK

Hope this is real. Would probably be a nice jump-start.

It is real.. sad part it I cant do anything with it.. but I wanna learn how to.

I'm downloading it now, we'll see what I can do with it. I've silently been compiling Dalvik and Chrome OS for the TouchPad and have a decent amount of experience with Assembly, cross-compiling, Java, etc. Let's get this **** done.

I guess there is some stupid bounty and everyone wants to be selfish and aim for the money. So it would be nice to get groups all over without other people yelling and trying to shut others down.

While pretty, this is utterly useless. It seems to have some userspace drivers like Wifi (woot) but it's missing the boot.img which contains the kernel. The hard part about porting Android is compiling the kernel, and this depressingly doesn't have it. All this is is a more helpful version of arm-linux-androideabi- compiled system, which is pretty normal. At least IMHO :\ I'd love to be told otherwise, though.

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While pretty, this is utterly useless. It seems to have some userspace drivers like Wifi (woot) but it's missing the boot.img which contains the kernel. The hard part about porting Android is compiling the kernel, and this depressingly doesn't have it. All this is is a more helpful version of arm-linux-androideabi- compiled system, which is pretty normal. At least IMHO :\ I'd love to be told otherwise, though.
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Did you check the update with the images... is that any good?

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Did you check the update with the images... is that any good?
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Ah, no I did not! Downloading now, will report back soon!

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Ah, no I did not! Downloading now, will report back soon!
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ok thanks for helping out. I been scanning the net so any new updates ill post here.

Alright, I can't look much more right now, but what I can tell you is that this dump has the boot.img (8.img), the system.img and the user data.img (either 12 or 13.img). It may also have a modem (?) of some sort, I've never seen the files before but looking at them, they appear to be the modem to the Evo 3D. That makes this a little...... odd?

i think the evo 3d and sensaton have the same processor as the touchpad wonder if that have something to do with what you seeing

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Alright, I can't look much more right now, but what I can tell you is that this dump has the boot.img (8.img), the system.img and the user data.img (either 12 or 13.img). It may also have a modem (?) of some sort, I've never seen the files before but looking at them, they appear to be the modem to the Evo 3D. That makes this a little...... odd?
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you reckon? Any more developments?

moxdown said:
you reckon? Any more developments?
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We dont have anyone else looking into besides Smith so no but im thankful for what hes doing.

Well it looks like Mr. Smith is the big swinging **** in the room. Since I don't know jack crap about building these ROMs I will say Thank you Sir, Looking forward to the outcome of this!!!

Thank you for posting this here, OP.

Well, I work 9-5 at a computer company so I do have to get some work done I have a good amount of reverse engineering history, programming, and hacking around history, so this is pretty fun for me.
Some random observations:
This IS from Qualcomm, there are a lot of files that mention it and even two apk's that are by them.
HP obviously had a hand in this because the device is called Topaz in the build.prop file, which was HP's codename for it.
I'll look more into it now

skantman69 said:
Well it looks like Mr. Smith is the big swinging **** in the room. Since I don't know jack crap about building these ROMs I will say Thank you Sir, Looking forward to the outcome of this!!!
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HAHAHAHA From the bottom of my heart, thank you "big swinging ****"!

Smith7018 said:
Well, I work 9-5 at a computer company so I do have to get some work done I have a good amount of reverse engineering history, programming, and hacking around history, so this is pretty fun for me.
Some random observations:
This IS from Qualcomm, there are a lot of files that mention it and even two apk's that are by them.
HP obviously had a hand in this because the device is called Topaz in the build.prop file, which was HP's codename for it.
I'll look more into it now
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12 is system, 13 is data, from what I have seen.

I've built a signed "custom ROM" but I'm not too sure what to do with it I'll have to look into how Doctor'ing works. Anyone know the probability of bricking the device with it?

Smith7018 said:
I've built a signed "custom ROM" but I'm not too sure what to do with it I'll have to look into how Doctor'ing works. Anyone know the probability of bricking the device with it?
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What do you mean you've built a signed custom rom ?
We need to try get it in a format for webos doctor. Think we need to use that tool to flash